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foxhole with a lot of these people. including ryan. >> come on, people! this isn't an audition. this ain't a show! >> let's focus on what's really important in this election. >> wikileaks is amazing. the stuff that's coming out. >> the russian government seems to be trying to interfere in this election and favor mr. trump. >> we do not deny this. they approve it. >> we have to investigate hillary clinton and we have to investigate the investigation. >> guess piet all of the terrible things he has said and done, he is still trying to win this election. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. donald trump going nuclear on his own party declaring himself freed from its quote, shackles, the republican nominee says he's better off without the support of house speaker paul ryan or senator john mccain. >> but trump's not just going after his own party. he's also renewing efforts
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against hillary clinton. he's got a new attack ad accusing her campaign of collusion with the justice department based, we think, on what came out in wikileaks. all this playing out in the last 24 hours. that's why 27 days may not sound like much but it could be an eternity in this election. only seven days until the final debate. let's begin with manu raju. >> donald trump is settling on a new strategy to win back the white house. he wants to fire up his core supporters by going after republican leaders who are very unpopular with the republican base and then attack hillary clinton in an attempt to drive down thuchl behind her campaign. but the fear among republicans is that this scorched earth strategy could come as a major price. costing him the white house, and possibly their own congressional majority. >> i don't want his support. i don't care about his support. >> reporter: donald trump
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declaring himself unshackled from his own party and lashing out at republican leadership after spending the day unleashing in a tirade of tweets. >> the shackles are some of the establishment people that are weak and ineffective people within the republican party, senators and others and paul ryan. >> reporter: berating house speaker paul ryan for announcen he would no longer defend donald trump. >> the first sign of a little bit of difficulties he unendorses. i wouldn't want to be in a fox hole with a lot of these people. including ryan. especially ryan. >> i got that. >> reporter: blasting senator jong mccain for revoking his endorsement. >> he's never heard salty long before. john mccain who has probably the dirtiest mouth in all of -- >> reporter: trump rejecting the idea that his vulgar comments about forcing himself on women is a valid reason for his supporters to abandon him. >> locker room talk and most people have heard it before and i had a lot of women come up tame and say, boy, i heard that and i've heard a lot worse than that over my life.
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>> reporter: this as more republicans, particularly those in tight races, attempt to distance themselves from the nominee. >> i have been openly very critical of policy positions that donald trump has taken. >> reporter: as others are sticking by his side and celebrating his intraparty attacks. >> we need a donald trump to show some authoritarian power in our country and bring back the rule of law. >> reporter: the clinton campaign moving swiftly to capitalize on the republican revolt. rolling out the democratic party's biggest names to turn out the vote. >> you can't repeatedly denounce what is said by someone. and then say, but i'm still going to endorse them to be the most powerful person on the planet. >> your vote really, really, really counts. you can consider me as an exhibit a of that truth. >> reporter: as trump's team
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pivots to a new strategy aimed at driving down clinton's favorability numbers. in hopes of keeping democratic voters home. now, in a private fund-raiser yesterday in san antonio trump blaming republicans for not helping his campaign. reportedly saying they are getting in the way of his doing well and not defending him on tv. in the meantime, republicans are worried that trump's unpopularity could drag down the rest of the ticket, hurt their chances of keeping the senate majority. so we're already seeing this really nasty blame game start to play out just less than a month before election day. chris? >> and it raises that question, manu, how does it get any better? all right on the other side of the ball, hillary clinton's campaign chairman is accusing the russians of hacking his e-mail in order to sway the election in donald trump's favor. that man is john podesta. and he's even suggested that the trump campaign knew that tt leaked e-mails were coming. with that story we have cnn's suzanne malveaux in washington.
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suzanne? >> good morning, chris. hillary clinton and her team continue to be dogged by this drip, drip, drip of the e-mails now being published by wikileaks. the hacked e-mails raise more questions about the campaign, the dnc, and the role of the justice department. so there are two parts from yesterday's document dump. one in which clinton spokesman brian fallen is communicating with the justice department in may of 2015 about an upcoming action in a civil lawsuit that resulted in the state department releasing tens thouf sands of clinton's e-mails. donald trump says this is collusion, corruption and supports his call for a special prosecutor to look into what he is calling clinton's crimes. the clinton campaign says fallon was relaying information that was completely in the public domain at the time. the second part is e-mails from clinton's campaign chairman john podesta. there are more than 5,000 now that reveal some of the inner workings of the campaign, the strategy dealing with bernie sanders and reporters they like and don't like, some clinton speeches, among other things.
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podesta was asked, what does he think of the impact of all of this and who is behind it. here's his response. >> so, i think it's a reasonable assumption to, or at least a reasonable conclusion that he had a warning in the trump campaign, had advanced warning about what assange was going to do. >> wikileaks claims have more than 50,000 of podesta's e-mails that they'll be releasing piece meal. that's what they're saying. while podesta and clinton's team say they don't believe there's anything really damaging here, it's certainly a distraction, and they still don't know what else is coming. >> suzanne, thanks so much for all of that reporting. we want to turn to a surrogate for donald trump, a former political director for president george w. bush. good morning, matt. >> alisyn, great to be with you. >> your credentials make you the perfect guest to have on our program this morning.
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because you -- >> uh-oh. >> here it is, matt. you personified this hybrid of moving between the george w. bush establishment wing -- >> that's right. >> of the gop. >> and the donald trump wing of the gop. >> that's right. >> that are now at war. with each other. where do you fall on this? >> you know, i'm heartbroken by it, alisyn. i don't like to see us at each other's throats. at this point in the campaign i'd like to be focusing on hillary clinton, and what the democrats want to do with what i view to be a pretty radical agenda. >> yes -- >> and i'd like to see us get through this. >> huh. >> and get back to that. >> well, i mean, donald trump's tactics do not seem to be getting through this. he seems to be, you know, he's declared war basically on speaker paul ryan, john mccain. do you think that he can win without those establishment figures? >> well let's just go through what happened here. obviously a tape was released, and some fair weather friends turned their back on the gop nominee.
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and the gop nominee is not the type of person to talk privately about his -- the fact that he was frustrated by that. he tends to talk in public like he does in private. and that's unconventional. but it's also authentic, and when he's upset with someone, he says he's upset with someone. it's part of his appeal. but yeah there's no question that if it's republican versus republican, that is time taken away from republican versus democrat. i want to focus on hillary clinton. i think that's where this campaign will focus now. >> you do? i mean you -- >> yes, i do. >> so you don't think -- >> yes. >> that donald trump will be sending out any more tweets about -- >> well -- >> -- fellow republicans -- >> now alisyn that is asking a lot for me to know. >> how can you be certain that he's going to focus -- >> i can't be. i can't be. i do know this. i know that if -- if he has a bone to pick with someone, he is clear about it. he makes it -- he is transparent that that's how he feels. i'm okay with that part. but i do think it's time to
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focus now -- >> yeah. >> -- on hillary clinton. on these e-mails. >> yeah. >> on the fact that her agenda i think would continue these obama policies. >> yeah. >> this election can be won if we connect to the 70% of americans who think this country is on the wrong track. >> yeah, matt. i want you to focus on your candidate. because you are a trump surrogate. so i know that you like talking about hillary clinton but in this segment, i just want you to focus on this, because you call the people who say i'm out, i can no longer support him fair weather friends. they call themselves men of conscience. i mean everybody has a breaking point. and for them, the john mccains and the paul ryans, do you doubt that hearing what he said those vulgar comments on the audio tape was the breaking point for them? >> i have a high degree of respect for paul ryan. he is a personal friend, someone i've known for 20 years. i respect his integrity. i think every politician has to do what they think is the right thing. i do think manu's piece before this segment should have mentioned that senator deb fisher from nebraska who was one
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of those republicans who said they wouldn't support donald trump has come back. the republican nominee in colorado has come back to supporting donald trump. i think there was a herd mentality we this tape came out and republicans got spooked and many of them started to bolt. and now they're realizing, days later, that what this election comes down to is an imperfect republican nominee, against a very radical democratic nominee. >> mm-hmm. >> and when you don't stand with the republican nominee you help the democratic nominee, allison. >> mm-hmm. >> it's kind of that simple in american politics. we try to make it more complicated. it really is that simple. the democrats i think sometimes get this better. they had a big primary and they came together because they didn't want to see the republican nominee get the white house. i wish republicans and conservatives would remember when they hurt their gop nominee, they're doing nothing but making it more inevitable that hillary clinton wins. and that's why donald trump gets frustrated. and i can understand that. >> matt, what do you think reince priebus is going to do? is he going to throw the full weight of the rnc machinery behind donald trump? >> yes. >> you're sure -- >> absolutely. positive.
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>> he's not -- >> divert some manpower and money to other republicans in hotly contested races? >> no, i think this is important. look i've been on two 3rez schull campaigns. the rnc is going to help every republican nominee, including donald trump as the presidential nominee. it's their job to make sure we have as many senate victories and as many house victories. alisyn this is cratically important. how well donald trump does in the general election, which he would win, and i think he still has a chance, if he were to lose the percentage that a presidential nominee loses impacts those down ballot races. the more republicans try to drive donald trump down, the more we will have losses in the house and the senate. now, that's the pessimistic view. i think we have a chance to hold -- have a big majority in the house, hold the majority in the senate and win this white house. and republicans need to understand the more we hurt each other, the -- the -- the less
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likely we are to have a big success in november. we've got to pull together on take on hillary clinton. look at these leaks? look at what's going on inside her own party. that's what republicans need to focus on. >> you're breaking my rule but i'm giving it to you anyway, matt, because it's your last answer and we appreciate you being on here on "new day." it will be very interesting to see what happens today inside the gop and elsewhere. thanks, matt. >> thank you, alisyn. >> all right. answering the question of what trump's focus will be, you can get that answer in a new attack ad targeting hillary clinton's health and stamina. is that effective? is it fair? is there any such thing as fair anymore? we'll talk to a supporter next. introducing lte advanced powering america's largest and fastest 4g lte network ever. and i'm also jamie foxx for sprint. and i'm also jamie foxx for t-mobile. (both) also america's largest, fastest network ever. oh, you're just repeating everything i said? (both) oh, you're just repeating everything i said? i'm switching to verizon right now! (both) i'm switching to verizon right now! (announcer vo) there's no better time to switch to verizon.
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there's a new ad and it has an obvious message. it is from trump. it is against clinton. and it is implying that she ain't healthy enough to be president. take a look. >> hillary clinton failed every single time as secretary of state. now she wants to be president. hillary clinton doesn't have the fortitude, strength, or stamina to lead in our world. she failed as secretary of state. don't let her fail us again. >> let's discuss with connecticut congressman jim himes, a hillary clinton supporter. you can't take on isis. you can't even make it up the stairs. is that a fair criticism? >> well, chris, i mean it's just gotten to the point where it's beyond bizarre. remember in the last debate when
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asked what he could say that was positive about hillary clinton, he said that she never gives up. she's a fighter. she never gives up. and then we wake up to this ad this morning about apparently she's not a fighter. i mean you know what do you do with that other than say that the trump campaign following on the events of last friday has completely, completely left the rails. >> so what do you do about the wikileaks? they come out, there are lots of suggestions of how the sausage is made, the right trump is reading them at rallies at proof that there's collusion between the clintons, and the doj. how do you take it? >> there's absolutely no proof that there's collusion between the clintons and the doj. you know, if trump's game here is to try to distract the american public from what they heard last friday, with, you know, trump celebrating sexual assault with a bunch of e-mails that indicate no more wrongdoing, quite frankly, than the e-mails about the state department and the clinton
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foundation indicated, and of course they'll keep saying that what is there is there. but of course it's not there. you know, that's not a winning game. i mean what happened last friday with respect to his discussion on that bus does not get crowded out by a bunch of e-mails that don't really show anything. >> well, but it's not simple math where you kind of cross things out as equivalents. everything has to get looked at on its own. you have fallon talking with the doj about what their schedule will be for a status hearing with a foia question for some of clinton's e-mails. why do you believe that that isn't inappropriate? >> well i mean we've got to go through each of these e-mails. but again what's happening here is exactly what happened with the question of whether the foundation was in touch with the state department. there was absolutely no evidence of wrongdoing at the end of the day. if people were talking to each other, people who may have known each other for a long time, that's one thing. but the question is, did anything happen? you know, i mean remember back in the foundation issue, it turned out that mohammed
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downous, a nobel prize winner who had some relationship with the foundation, had a meeting with the secretary of state that would have happened anyway. again this is the trump campaign looking for problems where problems don't exist. and even if they succeed in finding a problem, the idea that that's going to somehow push donald trump's behavior -- look, we're, we're past last friday right? imagine remember what happened yesterday where donald trump is you know on twitter criticizing the republican speaker of the house. if he were really trying to elevate these -- these sort of -- these wikileaks e-mails he'd stop his own outrageous behavi behavior. but of course he's not. >> the e-mails are a haunting thing because the suggestion is that hillary clinton did it on purpose, and she never really owned it, and she got a pass from justice by the doj because of the obama administration. can you refute that case convincingly? >> well, chris, i can refute both points of that case. as recently as in the last debate, hillary clinton stood in
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front of the american people and said it was wrong, it was a mistake, if i could do it over again, i wouldn't do it, and i apologize. and you know she's been doing that for a very, very long time. i think most of us agree with her on that point. so, again, the idea that she hasn't sort of fully owned it. now then we get to the question of the fbi. you know, one of the things that's been particularly -- one of the casualties quite frankly of this whole rancid presidential election and what donald trump has been doing has been jim comey. i know jim comey the director of the fbi. that guy is an american hero. and by the way, he's a republican. and jim comey, who if he's anything, he is dedicated to the law, as director of fbi. and he is very, very careful. i work with him all the time on the permanent select committee on intelligence. and for the trump campaign to say that somehow jim comey, one of the most dignified and thoughtful senior officials we have, that he made some egregious mistake, when he didn't, is -- is besmirching a man of real integrity. >> you think that loretta lynch or whoever made the call to have
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comey say there's no prosecutable case did him a disservice? that's usually what the a.g. would say. the fbi would come, present the evidence, to the doj, the you know the attorney general, the department of justice, and then they would say, there's either a case or there isn't. here, comey apparently did both jobs outwardly appearing. you think that did him a disservice? >> well, you know, it certainly put him in the firing line. and as you know, chris, there were things that were unusual about the way comey played this inasmuch as he went public with the decision, and an explanation for why there wasn't a prosecutable offense here. and as he will tell you, that is a little unusual. ordinarily a prosecutor wouldn't do that. but in this particular case, where you're talking about a candidate for the highest office in the land, where any decision is going to be profoundly controversial, putting an explanation behind that decision, and by the way, standing by that explanation in a very strong way, you know, you saw jim comey say a couple of weeks ago that this wasn't even a hard one that when you look at
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all the prosecutable cases over time, this -- >> right. >> -- didn't fall anywhere near the basket of prosecutable cases. so of course it put him in the firing line. but imagine if jim comey had said hey we're not doing this and left it at that, we would have been talking about it a lot more. subsequent. >> well, right. it's just that you're right about what a prosecutor does and doesn't do. the catch is he wasn't acting as a prosecutor here. the head of the fbi is the investigative arm of it. the prosecutor is on the doj side. that's why they usually come forward and do what he did in that. but you're right it certainly put him in the firing line. congressman, thank you for joining us and making the case this morning on "new day" as always. alisyn? >> chris, there's a new cnn film that takes an in-depth look at something close to the first lady's heart. it's helping educate and empower girls around the world, a preview of that film, next. our daughter home, brout that was it. now i have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day. it's the best thing that ever happened to me.
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they're all on a journey to help young girls overcome challenges to achieve their educational goals. here's a look. >> you don't have to be somebody different to be important. you're important in your own right. people want and need to value you because of who you are. because of your story. because of your challenges. that's what makes you unique. you want to be different. you want to be special. the fact that you've been able to overcome challenges, and this is what i always thought, that made me smarter. that made me better. right? because i could overcome things that a lot of people who are in the same position never had to overcome. >> joining us now, senior adviser to president obama and chair of the white house council on women and girls, valerie jarrett. valerie, good to have you with us. we'll talk politics in a second. but just contextually, certainly now is a good time to talk about any way to empower women. what is the goal of this film?
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>> well i think the first lady said it beautifully. it's all about lifting women up. helping girls appreciate the importance of a good education. changing the societal norms and support women and girls having that education. we have 98 girls, adolescent girls, around the world, who are not in school. they need to be in school. you can always judge a country by whether or not the women who live there are thriving and have a great education. so the investment that the first lady is proposing, which is really substantial in just a year and a half we've spent over $1 billion of new promise or existing promise at the federal level. there are 100 private sector partners who are putting up money. 50 countries are involved. we can have a dramatic effect on improving the quality of life of our citizens and our girls through this new initiative. and i want to thank cnn for producing such a terrific, terrific documentary. >> cnn says you're welcome. let girls learn is the name of the initiative.
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a billion dollars. that's a lot of money. what have you seen in terms of results so far? >> well, what we're beginning to see is the effects of so many countries deciding that they want to get involved, and work with us on this. the private sector is involved. it's still in the early stages. it was only launched a year and a half ago. but to see the kind of tremendous announcements that were made yesterday, as we celebrated the international day of the girl, shows you that there's an appreciation for how important it is that girls are able to compete on an even playing field, and key to that is a good education. >> even playing field. so for those who come to this blind, why do girls have unique challenges that boys do not? what do you want people to know? >> well, what we've seen around the country are the embid ims that keep girls from the thriving. so oftentimes they're not allowed to go to school. we see problems with early marriages, and early pregnancies. lack of health care. lack of access to even entering the school doors, and so what we
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are trying to do is to make the case for why it is so important that girls can compete on an even playing field, so it's about education, but it's a holistic approach. it's about ensuring they have the right health care. it's about ensuring that society embraces the importance of equality. and the fact that we've seen the kind of traction we have in the private sector, here and around the world, and governments around the world shows that we can really make an impact. and when the first lady talks about her experiences as a young girl, and how it was important that her parent, although they didn't have a college education, they valued her having one, and that that empowered her, and she wants to do that for all the world's girls. >> so from the positive, let's segue to the negative, also known as the presidential election. we're talking about how to empower women. and yet the extreme focus of the election right now is the debasement of women in the form of a video and audio offering of donald trump's past. what do you think its impact
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should be on the race? >> well, as you know, chris, i'm not sure to comment about the elections or any particular candidate. i think the president has spoken now. this entire week and he's expressed how profoundly degrading those remarks were. and i think he speaks for everyone. >> what is the reaction within the white house to the main case of donald trump which is, the country is in a state of disaster because of your time and the obama administration's time in office. what does it mean to you that he's gotten to this point largely on the basis of that case? that enough people in this country believing that, put him where he is. >> well, let's talk about where our country is, chris. let's talk about the fact that when the president took office we were in the mid stf the worst economic crisis of our lifetime. our unemployment rate soared up to 10%. now, it's cut in half. we just saw recent statistic from the u.s. census bureau that shows that last year in 2015, we had the largest jump in the
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typical family income, 2800, than we have in recorded history. our poverty rates dropped at the highest level since 1968. we have ended two wars and brought so many of our troops home. we have vefd a reputation around the world which has strengthe d strengthened. that doesn't mean that there aren't still people who are suffering in our country and what the president has said since day one is that he wants to ensure that every single american has that fair shot to -- and opportunity and i think the reason why he was so successful in 2008, and again in 2012, is that he brought with him an inclusive spirit. an optimistic spirit about our country. we are doing fantastic here. and that does not mean that there isn't room for improvement. but we are the envy the world over, and we have to continue to invest in america, in order to ensure that we can continue to have that kind of reputation on the world stage. >> last question, we know that the president, this matters enough to him that he's out on the hustings, he's working it
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very hard. what is his response to the allegation that you own the problems in iraq and with isis right now, because of the hasty withdrawal when president obama came into office? >> i think the president has been clear that his number one objective is to keep america safe. that the challenges that we have around the world are complicated, and they're not going to be solved overnight. but he certainly comes to this office every single day, committed to keeping america safe. and doing everything within his power to do so. his judgments are clear, and singularly focused on what is good for our country, and he stands behind the decisions that he's made. >> valerie jarrett, thank you very much. we will rise is the cnn film. michelle obama's mission to educate girls around the world. it is worth a watch. >> absolutely. >> especially if you have girls in the family tonight at 9:00 p.m. in fact i take that back -- >> thanks, chris. >> whether you have girls or not
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donald trump waging war on his own party. this morning his campaign manager kellyanne conway delivering a message to any party leaders who are still on the fence about him. >> and enough with the fussy footing around in terms of do you support us or not support us. the fact is that, you know, some of these leaders have been very wishy-washy. >> quick question, choice of word >> not the best. >> do you think it was intentional? >> no! i don't -- >> smart, though. >> mm-hmm. >> why would you go back to pussy-footing around -- >> everything donald trump has done has been on the edges. and kellyanne conway is an extremely smart person. >> no argument there. >> you think that word was a word play? >> no, i don't. >> stop pussy-footing around. >> i think that you cannot rule it out. >> don't be silly. that was a freudian slip. >> cnn politics executive editor. >> very good. can we get to the message which
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is republican rubicorubicon, yo here, which side are you on. is that the message today for republicans? >> i think that was the message when we saw donald trump come out on sunday night at the debate and therefore. look it, the dividing line has been drawn right now. donald trump is bleeding support from his own base right now. he still has support. but he's bleeding. we've seen his -- his -- his base right now should be about 41%, 42%. he's down to 35% now. one poll -- well we'll see what happens in the upcoming polls, but the bottom line is he's not gaining, so he's not on, on a track to win. and if you're a republican right now and you don't agree with donald trump then you're going to flee donald trump. >> i have a question, to use your metaphor, which side of the rubicon. what happened when people crossed the rubicon? it was ill-fated. right? so if you're going to extend that analogy to this situation, if this is like the rubicon. >> right. >> why attack people for saying this is too much for me. i'm worried about down ballot, i
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don't want to be tide to this guy, i can't make this separation between what he says and somehow what is wrong with hillary clinton. do you think that's really going to catch them seven, eight, nine months from now when there is a reckoning of who were you with and when? >> i think there is going to be a reckoning. and i do think depending on what part of the country you live in and what the level of support for donald trump is, that this could hurt some members of congress who are wishy-washy on trump. but overall, i do think that if you think you need to disassociate yourself with trump, then disassociate yourself with trump. >> speaking of reckoning, that's the word you used, some people have used the word revolution. and that if donald trump were to lose, you know, the sentiment doesn't go away. all of the people who are so angry at government, and at congress, it doesn't go away the day after election day. so mike pence had to address this on the campaign trail. listen to this. >> for me personally, if hillary clinton gets in, i myself, i'm ready for a revolution, because we can't have her in. >> why don't say --
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>> but i'm just saying it. >> that -- he tried to tamp it down but that there's a real sentiment out there of what might happen if he loses. >> voice of reason, mike pence in many ways, he is a republican insider. let's not forget he was part of the house republican leadership in congress. so there's no doubt that the day after the election, and the months leading after that, they're going to have to figure out what's going on in the gop. i don't agree that the gop is in total disarray and they won't be able to get their footing again but there is always going to be a segment of the gop now that is going to be very upset and going to try to push the leadership farther to the right than the leadership feels comfortable. >> who is going to expose what bill clinton said out on the hustings? should we play it? or should i -- >> yeah, let's listen. >> here's what he said. >> that's a problem. here's the problem -- >> bill clinton is a rapist!
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he's -- [ shouting ] >> all right, so this guy pops up, says you're a rapist, that's the problem. bill clinton went on to talk about the supporters and the dynamic and he used the word red necks. do you think that's going to wind up coming back around. he goes from being a victim, being called a rapist, right, which is an unsubstantiated allegation but then that goes into that deplorable category. >> the irony is he is a red neck himself -- >> does that make it okay? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. it goes into the deplorable column, and if you remember, when barack obama described voters in pennsylvania as clinging to their guns and their religion, you know, there is a dissociation with the democratic party right now that a lot of people think that the party doesn't recognize that. >> mark preston, thank you for the bottom line. great to have you. >> so it is where the modern era of mass shootings began. high atop the clock tower at the
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university of texas. you know what i'm talking about. there's a new documentary that explores untold stories from that horrific day in 1966. the question is, why have this conversation now? well, the executive producer of the film "tower," and that special face right next to him, meredith vieira, stalking me in the green room. a restraining order means nothing these days. they join us, next. all right, be cool. you got the amazing new iphone 7 on the house by switching to at&t... what??.... aand you got unlimited data because you have directv?? okay, just a few more steps... door! it's cool get the iphone 7 on us and unlimited data when you switch to at&t and have directv.
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a new documentary examines america's first mass school shooting. the stories from the people who were there. it was august 1st, 1966. when a gunman on top of the clock tower at the university of texas went on a reign of terror for more than 90 minutes. >> -- words to get into the tower. >> are you going to be okay? >> i'm tired. >> it won't be much longer now. don't worry. >> -- just talked. just kind of wonderful. because it kept me conscious. and i don't know what would have happened had i been unconscious. >> joining us now is the film's director keith maitland, and
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executive producer meredith vieira. great to have both of you here on "new day." meredith this happened 50 years ago. it was the first, you know, mass shooting that now sadly have become, you know, so much more -- >> absolutely. >> -- ubiquitous. why did you want to go back 50 years and re-examine that? >> because it was the first. and i knew so many people who knew nothing about it. i was 13 when it happened. i have a memory of it. but then nobody even talked about it after the fact. and keith who grew up in austin never learned about it in school, either. and i think it was important to tell this story. especially because of all of this happened since then. the animation, though, threw me. my associate who brought the project to me said this is going to work. and i couldn't see it. i couldn't visualize it with animation. now having seen the film completed i don't know how it would work without it. >> i agree. it is so powerful. because when you first hear animation you're like a cartoon version of this? >> right. >> but when you see it it is a powerful device. keith, what did you think?
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>> well you know, i wanted to find a way to tell the stories from 50 years ago in a way that would talk to young audiences. a way that would transcend time and space. it has been 50 years. but because this phenomenon is obviously so prevalent in our culture still, and it's kids that find themselves in the crosshairs and college campuses and high schools i wanted them to see themselves up on the screen. so the animation was an incredible tool. >> when keith started to put this thing together there were people who said, who's going to care about something that happened 50 years ago? and a few months after that we had sandy hook. >> oh, my gosh. and the second you start watching this it is gripping. it's gripping the way that you laid it out for meredith and both of you in your research and doing this documentary, what did you conclude about why the school shootings and mass shootings have increased exponentially since that time? >> and that's, that's an important question to ask. it is a question that is beyond the scope of what we twried to do with this film. and it's because it's so confounding. why do these things keep happening? why do the people who perpetrate
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them end up in these states? those are big questions. i feel like they're unanswerable questions for a film like this. what i wanted to do was, was create an opportunity to approach the people who survived the shooting, and have lived with this for 50 years because through recognizing their humanity, we can broach those bigger questions. it was a conversation that needed to be started. and needs to be had. and i'm hoping smarter people than me can figure those out. >> and me as well. when you watch the film you do eventually meet those people. the animation turns to the real people and you see that what happened on that day still haunts them. it's still part of who they are. and in fact, when keith interviewed them, it was the first time many of them had even spoken about it. in the whole 50 years. >> is that right? >> yes. >> and it did change the trajectory of their lives. >> of course. an event like this rips over the fabric of a community. growing up in texas, attending the university of texas, this was like an open wound that has
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existed in our community and because it hadn't been dealt with, it hadn't been explored head on, it hadn't had a chance to heal. and so reaching out and finding people like claire wilson and artly fox, and alec hernandez, ramiro martinez who lived through this event and survived, they have a story to tell. they have lessons that they have learned and we could all learn from them. i was surprised like meredith to discover that because they hadn't been given that chance to explore on their own, the process of making the film all these years later, opened up some of those opportunities anew. >> i mean that very first story, the woman that we see she was pregnant, i think she was something like 21 years old, she was pregnant, and her boyfriend was with her and her baby died and her boyfriend died. >> exactly. >> all in that split second. >> she talks about like there on that hot pavement it was like 100 degrees. her legs were burning. it felt like she was melting and she knew the baby wasn't moving
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so she knew at that point. what was remarkable was not just her that woman who came out of nowhere, rita, another student who was so brave, and that -- there was a sniper who could have killed her and she went and she laid next to claire just to keep her awake. because she knew if she -- if she ever got unconscious that was going to be bad. >> well it's an incredible documentary. it's really wonderful meredith, i saw you yesterday on "the view." >> yes. >> i know you went back for your old stomping grounds. what is it, there are ever moments during this whole crazy election that you've been watching that you still wish that you had a daily news perch like the today show or "the view" to be talk -- >> i find this such a troubling time and such an upsetting time. on so many levels that i don't know. no. it's -- i'm glad -- i'm happy to watch from the sidelines. yes. >> well the documentary is really special. it's really gripping. it is a conversation that we all need to have and not just when one of these things happen. >> exactly. >> it's nice to have it in the
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cool light of day. meredith vieira, keith maitland, thanks so much for sharing it with us. it's called "tower." >> thank you, alisyn. >> let's get over to chris. >> two more reasons to respect meredith vieira. the tower and that she doesn't have to do what we do every day. all right, now for some relief. the debate may have been ugly and in fact it was. but it spawned some priceless parodies. two of the best ones you just have to see them. we have them. next.
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because it was. but it did provide us with some really lighthearted comic relief from a bad lip-reading spoof to a hard moanous duet you may actually wish this is how the real thing had gone down. jeanne moos has more. here's the story. >> reporter: the candidates were hard on each other. but not this hard. >> hey, hey, hey, have to say, you suck. >> look. >> well that's just stupid. >> reporter: nor were they this nice. ♪ had the time of my life ♪ no i never felt like this before ♪ >> reporter: two debates. two parodies. ♪ i've been waiting for so long now i finally found someone who stand by me ♪ >> reporter: stand by me lyrics. >> congratulations, great job. >> reporter: was actually a sarcastic comment in the real debate. the funny thing is this u.s. election spoof wasn't even made in america. a dutch video artist did it.
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>> i just noticed the way these candidates were strolling around the stage and i just felt this needed a song, really. a courting ritual in a way. ♪ saw the writing on the wall as you felt this magical fantasy ♪ >> reporter: with a magical fantasy of a different sort. bad lip-reading is back with a new video. >> well, i can do this. brrp. oh, ha. >> reporter: actually trump was saying this. >> wrong. >> that is -- >> wrong. >> proved. >> reporter: bad lip-reading has been around for five years now. >> well, yeah, i can do this. >> everybody say -- >> hmm. >> i doubt you're quite that good. >> reporter: hillary did actually wink, a la sarah palin, at the debate. >> well not quite that long. >> reporter: commenters commiserated we are doomed. this makes more sense than the actual debate. >> you know you want to lick my face. >> that's psycho. >> reporter: the video producer who does these bad lip-readings
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wants to remain anonymous. >> favorite way to eat chicken? >> raw. >> reporter: actually, donald's favorite way to eat chicken is with a knife and fork. the public eats up these parodies. forget dirty dancing. ♪ so we take each other's hand >> reporter: the debates are dirty politics. and could use a little harmony. ♪ now with passion in our eyes there's no way we could disguise ♪ >> reporter: jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> favorite part? >> oh, the bad lip-reading. >> absolutely. not even a question. >> so good. >> brrp. >> what was the noise he was making? >> brrp. i don't know. we can't do it. it's so good. i also liked her adoring look at him. >> when he was singing? >> oh, it was good. favorite way to eat chicken. raw! >> yeah. it's so good. how can that guy stay anonymous whoever did it? come forward. >> it's good. if he comes out someone is going to like destroy him because they
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don't like someone he parodies. stay anonymous. find some way to make money off it but stay anonymous. i'd like to see carol costello in that false lip-reading thing. >> i'm sure she can do it. carol can do anything. >> i'd like to see someone do it to her and watch carol beat them down with their own fists. >> and i would do that, too. >> oh, i know. >> not a doubt in my mind. >> amen brother. you guys have a great day, "newsroom" starts now. good morning i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. donald trump delivering on his threat to abandon the last fibers of his restraint in a single day. he attacks the very party that nominated him and two prominent republicans who have abandoned his campaign. he rips senator john mccain, himself a former presidential nominee, and he turns on house speaker paul ryan, the most powerful republican in congress. >> i don't want his support. i don't care about his support. what i want to do is i want to win for the
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