they are. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. this election has taken another sorted turn. donald trump said his comments about women were locker room talk and he never did what he said. several women have come forward say ing he was lying. two women taking their stories to "new york times" and another magazine writer. >> trump says he's suing "the times" and anyone else who voices these allegations. so much for who can keep you safe or get you a better job. the current state of play in this election who has treated women worse? we're just 26 days until election day and only six until the final debate. we have all the news for you and let's begin with cnn's jason carroll live in ocala, florida. >> good morning to you. you know, the trump campaign says that all of these allegations are basically

politically motivated. an attorney for trump called "the times" article both reckless and defamatory. cnn has not been able to independently confirm the allegations that some of these women are making. we should also point out that some of the language you're about to hear in this story is graphic. several women speaking out, accusing donald trump of touching them inappropriately. >> it was a real shock when all of a sudden his hands were all over me. >> reporter: two of these women, jessica leeds and rachel crooks telling "the new york times" they were both groped or kissed by trump without consent. the incident with leeds allegedly took place 35 years ago when she sat next to the billionaire in the first class cabin on a flight. >> if he had stuck with the upper part of the body, i might not have gotten, i might not have gotten that upset.

it's when he started putting his hand up my skirt, and that was it. >> reporter: crooks telling "the times" after introducing herself to trump outside an elevator at trump tower, he would not let go of her hand and then kissed her directly on the mouth. something she says felt like a violation. crooks said this happened in 2005. >> i'm automatically attracted to attracted women. >> reporter: he boasted to billy bush how he forces himself on women. the two women telling "the new york times" they came forward after watching trump deny ever assaulting women at sunday's debate. >> have you ever -- >> women have respect for me and, no, i have not. >> reporter: the trump campaign says the entire article is fiction calling "new york times" story a character assassination. also in 2005, natasha stoynoff a

writer for "people" magazine claims she was physically attacked by trump while in mar-a-largo. she was briefly alone with trump in a room when within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. the trump campaign did not respond to a request for comment, but a trump spokesperson told the magazine, this never happened. there is no merit or veracity to this fabricated story. this as another recording that year reveals trump bragging to howard stern about going back stage at the beauty pageants he owns. >> i'm allowed to go in because i'm the owner of the pageant and, therefore, i'm inspecting it. is everybody okay. you see these incredibly looking women. so i sort of get away with things like that. tosha dixon tells cnn that's exactly what happened in 2001. >> it was announced donald trump was going to come in and before you could put a robe or dress

yourself, he walked in. you know, some women were half naked, others were in the process of changing. it puts us in not only a physical, vulnerable position, but also an emotional state. >> reporter: trump's campaign manager refusing to comment. >> there's no way for me to know what happened there. >> well, the clinton campaign is commenting about all this. quick to come out with a response saying, "these reports suggest that he lied on the debate stage and that the disgusting behavior he bragged about in the tape is more than just words." alisyn? >> all right, jason, thank you so much for all that. let's bring in former trump campaign manager cory luindowski and paul begala. let's play that moment in it debate, again, that prompted these women to come forward. here it is. >> just for the record, though, are you saying that what you

said on that bus 11 years ago that you did not actually kiss women without consent or grope women without consent? >> i have great respect for women. nobody has more respect for women than i do. >> so for the record you're saying you never did that? >> frankly you hear these things. they're said. and i was embarrassed by it. but i have tremendous respect for women. and women have respect for me. and i will tell you, no, i have not. >> so, cory. that's the moment when he said, no, i haven't done those things. the two women that have come forward to "the new york times" prompted him to say, yes, he has. he physically accosted me. one on the plane and one in a hallway and the "people" magazine writer who said he forced himself on her in a room. >> i can tell you what donald trump has said. what i do find very interesting is the timing of this. we're now 26 days before the presidential election. we're talking about an incident that potentially took place 35 years ago or more.

>> many instances. >> many instances that took place many decades ago, potentially. >> also in 2005. >> or at least the accusation is. >> several of them are 2005. i mean, the "people" magazine writer said it was because she was doing a profile on his first year of wedded bliss with melania while she was pregnant. when she went to change her outfit he forced her into a room and forced her up against a wall to kiss her. >> the campaign has put out a statement saying this is not accurate and it has not happened. what i find very interesting is the timing of this. he has been running for president for two years now and been the republican nominee since may and they wait until 25 days before the election to bring out -- >> because of what they said they heard during the debate. >> if this incident had been so important to them, they could have, alleged incidents, it could have talked about this many, many, many times, many opportunities. look, you have an accusation from a reporter right now that has access to the media any time

they wanted to raise this issue. should it have been an issue that she want to discuss. i find it a little egregious that because anderson asked a question and they didn't like his answer after all the other things. that is sunday and today is now thursday. >> they said he was lying. listen, here's my question. what are the difference between these allegations and the allegations against clinton? >> if you believe hillary clinton none of those things happen. >> if we believe you, none of these things happened. >> it's one person's word against another person's words. >> why is donald trump going after bill clinton? >> look, what i think donald trump should be doing is talking about hillary clinton's a rapist who rape e ed a -- >> she is a public defender. this is what she did. >> did you read the affidavit that said this 12-year-old asked for sexual advances from grown

men. >> corey you don't think -- >> no factual basis in the affidavit that hillary clinton signed. >> back to the point. it is donald trump that brought up bill clinton's past. what if all of this is true about his past? >> if you want to focus on what hillary did in her professional career and accuse a 12-year-old of asking for unwanted solicitation from grown people is egregious. >> what does the clinton campaign do with the new allegations? >> i don't think they're going to jump all over this. my advice to them would be never interrupt your opponent as he is destroying himself. the problem here it's not just he said/she said. the most damming witness here is donald j. trump. he was on that bus with billy bush and bragged about forcing himself on women. these women tell stories that

comport exactly with what he said. he went on howard stern and bragged about going back stage and ogling teenage girls. this one woman ed lavandera interview eed she said, in fact he did that. trump himself the most damaging witness against trump. >> corey, do not believe these women? >> i don't know. it's very difficult for me to report on something that happened 35 years ago. >> many of the allegations are from 2005. i hear you. if these were true, would you stop supporting donald trump? >> look, i can only tell you what my experience with donald trump has been over a 18-month period of time barbara res said she spent 18 years working for donald trump and in her own book she sprpraised donald trump. >> she saw him become more reckless with women. that he bragged about it and she was clear about that. >> 18 years she worked in that building as someone who worked

very closely with donald trump. in 18 years she never witnessed it and now people making accusations who ran into donald trump in an elevator for three minutes. you have a person who has been an employee of yours for 18 years who wrote a book and who said, i never saw this. he was the least sexist boss i ever had. >> seems fair to say that he didn't work with many women in the construction business and that he maybe didn't prey with women he worked with in his office. >> the respect he does have for women when he takes people like barbara res, women who were never involved in those types of industries and put them in leadership positions. >> you doubt, all the women that are coming forward now, you're doubting their credibility. >> look, i don't know any of these individuals and i can tell you my tenure with donald trump i have never seen anything like this take place. none of this ever occurred when i was there and i've never seen the kind of language he usin th

billy bush tape. >> i believe donald trump. donald trump bragged about sexually assaulting women. i thought it was just talk, as he said. not locker room talk, but talk about rape culture and assault. now, we have women corroborating what trump said. i believe trump when he said, i did these things. that's so perverted. yeah, i believe trump. i believe trump. he is corroborating these women's stories himself. >> paul, we need to talk about what's going on on the other side of the campaign and that is there are these wikileak documents that were stolen and come to light. and a freedom of information not a firewall between the state department and the clinton foundation. let me read what a state department official was telling a top clinton official doing favors before and after the haiti earthquake. the source of this is abc news.

the state deportment official says need you to flag when people are friends of william jefferson clinton. most i can probably id, but not all. that was in response to, hey, when a friend of bill clinton's comes forward, can you let them jump the line and go to the front for this favor. once again, you see that the state department was not separated from the clinton foundation in the way they had promised they would be. >> to what end? this was not a profit-making enterprise. this was trying to help people in haiti whose lives and villages were destroyed by a natural disaster. of course, the united states of america goes to help, we're the greatest country in the world and the clinton foundation went to help. that's what they were trying to do. >> but the fact that when hillary clinton became secretary of state and they promised, we will have a bright line between the clinton foundation and the state department. there won't be a cozy relationship or collusion -- >> they had ample guidelines and i can go and look this up. >> did this violate? >> i certainly don't think.

this is trying to get to haiti and help people who were dying. my understanding is we're about fund-raising. they couldn't raise money any longer from overseas unless people had given before barack obama was elected and hillary clinton became the secretary of state. a world of difference trying to help people who are dying and preying on women. >> corey, hold that thought. we have both of you coming back and discuss more on both of these stories, if you guys will stand by. very quickly, we'll take a very quick break. we're on "new day" in a moment. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.

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all right. we're covering these allegations by several women against donald trump. this morning we were supposed to do an interview with mark meadows, republican for north carolina. he canceled. he's someone who has been defending donald trump. won't get the opportunity to do it today. it stands to come on and do it. vice president joe biden mentioned it last night on "late night with seth myers" the tape, the resulting allegations.

here's what he said. >> my dad used to say the greatest sin of all is the abuse of power and a man raising his hand or taking advantage of a woman. and it is -- here's a guy who says i'm a star. talk about power. i can go in and intimidate women and allowing me to assault them and assume they're not going to say anything. that is the ultimate abuse of power. and i don't think and i don't understand how anyone can remotely justify that. >> let's bring back corey lewaandowski and paul begala. what will the clinton campaign do with this? even in light of allegations this is a soft area of hillary clinton. those women were sitting there in the audience known as the bill clinton accusers. she didn't take it head on. she didn't want to deal with that issue. what about this? >> i think the most important

thing about a campaign is make it about the voters, not yourself or even your opponent. the truth is these are coming out because it came forward. the worst thing that donald trump has done for america is hijacking our election. we have real needs in this country. real needs. and we're not talking about them. >> but do you ignore women coming forward with allegations? does that make her insensitive to what the claims are? >> i'm sure you can't not reference it. my own counsel would be whoever gets back to issues first wins. talk about people's lives. and others, look at joe biden. he wrote the violence against women's act two decades ago when he was a senator. he has a track record on this and people like that may be able to. but i don't think she ought to be jumping up and down on this. i think she ought to get back to

talking about her issues. >> so, corey, will donald trump continue tatalk about the allegations against bill clinton? >> i think we should talk about the issues and talk about the wikileaks where hillary clinton has a public face and a private face. wall street is best to regulate itself. what we know for one thing minimum, chairman podesta needs a better job of controlling his twitter account. this guy is at the center of every single discussion and he is ultimately aware and acutely aware of the speeches that hillary clinton have made to wall street which is contrary to what she says privately. >> you blame john podesta for being careless with his e-mails but do you blame the russians -- >> the u.s. government say it's the russians. wait, hold on a second. >> if that's the case, that's the case. i don't know. >> here's the question. why would you resist that? >> i don't care who did it. >> it looks bad for your campaign that you guys don't like to give negative attention

to the russians. >> i don't care if it's the russians, it the vietnamese. i know this. the clinton campaign has never said these are not authentic e-mails. no one is talking about this. if this was a muslim d-- >> wouldn't you want to be a catholic, too? let's read the e-mail and let people decide because i think it's disengingenuous to play religion you're using something as a flash point for people and listen to what they said. listen to what they said. >> the context is that john halpin the center of american progress is trying to write to the clinton pam pacampaign and g about rupert murdoch who has decided -- >> decided to raise his kids catholic and done it with a high mass. >> many of the most powerful

elements of the conservative movement are all catholic. many converts. it's an amazing bastardization of the faith. they must be attracted to the systemmatic thought and severely backwards gender relation. and then the communication director of the clinton campaign jennifer palmieri responds, "i imagine they think it is the most socially acceptable politically conservative religion. >> their rich friends? i don't have any rich friends. >> they're not attacking catholicism. you know it. you say you want to get back to issues and you raise this nonsense. >> the issues are open border. hillary clinton has said in these e-mails very clear. >> do that. don't talk about the catholic m catholicism, that's not real. >> there's no policy that clinton is suggesting to, for instance, ban all christians from coming into the country. so, this is an e-mail exchange maybe it is maligning a certain

religion, but not a policy. >> these are the people she's surrounding herself with that are maligning catholics. >> they're not maligning catholics. >> do you see this as maligning catholics? >> no, of course it's not. these are faithful cathics. i don't halpin, but people who have converted or raised their children and it's the kind of thing people say in private. i want to get back to the russians, though. i think it's very interesting that corey slipped, the russians committed a crime. they hacked hillary or john podesta's e-mails and doing it to help trump. >> there is no proof that they're doing this to help -- >> there is proof that trump is running this new ad that throws these threats to america. a pro-democracy activist from russia. he said, you notice what's not

in there? russia. a great threat to america. trump is pro-putin and pro-russian and overrun his own running mate and sided with putin over pence. why is he doing that? why is putin involved in our election? >> last word, corey. >> a person that -- >> vladimir putin has direct knowledge of this -- >> you think that russia would hack and that putin wouldn't know about it? >> that this is designed to help donald trump. >> why are you defending this situation so much? you call this anti-catholic rhetoric with no basis but putin you give him a hard defense. >> why don't we talk about what is in the wikileaks she is open borders which for 18 months she said, no, no, no, i'm not for open borders and then we see she is for open borders. >> gentlemen, we have to go. corey, paul, thank you very much. >> maybe we'll continue over coffee. >> decaf. all right, up next, the woman behind the man who would be vice president tim kaine's

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of all the candidates' spouses, tim kaine's wife, anne holton, may have the longest in politics. a republican governor and now, of course, she's working to elect her husband on hillary clinton's democratic ticket. anne holton joins us now. you suggested i will call you anne, i will take you up on that. we invited you in to learn about you, what makes your tick, what you are doing during this election, but, of course, hard to avoid the news of the day. so, let's start with that. there's stuff on both sides. there are women who have come forward with allegations of groping and sexual assault against donald trump. what was your response when you first heard about this? >> you know, alisyn, i'm so done

with talking about the other side. i am supporting a ticket that will support women's rights in the workplace and the right of equal pay and free of sexual harassment and fight for women's reproductive freedoms and so many important things to be talking about in this election and the most infuriating thing about the craziness on the other side is it keeping us from talking about important stuff. >> in terms of your side, there is also the e-mails that have come to light in part because of wikileaks is publishing stolen e-mails from john podesta. one i wanted to ask you about, it is whether or not johnfer palmieri, clinton's campaign spokesperson or communications director, was saying something that was anti-catholic or maligning catholics. i know how important your faith is to you. is that how you read those e-mails? >> you know, i haven't read the e-mails. the alleged e-mails.

i have been out talking to voters and they're not asking me about it and i haven't paid that much attention to the e-mails. the gist of what i've seen are folks who are being thoughtful about their jobs. if any of us had our personal communications stolen and put out there for the whole world to see, i hope we'd look as good as these people look. >> hany of our e-mails are in te public arena. >> who knows whether they're accurate or not. >> what is your role in the campaign? >> i was secretary of education in virginia under governor terry mcauliffe until late july when tim got that call. what hillary has asked me to do on the campaign trail is listen to teachers and bring feedback back for how the federal government can be better partners to states and localities and helping make sure that all children have successful pathways to the

future. that's what i've been doing and i'm loving it. >> that's what you wanted to focus on and that's what you're trying to focus on. no way around that this is a particularly controversial, toxic election. did you anticipate this when your husband signed on? >> well, no. i think it's safe to say that this election has been so full of surprises. but, the truth is, i'm out meeting with voters and volunteers all across the country and they really do want to talk about real issues. they want to hear about climate science. do you believe in climates in science and do you want to help protect our planet and get the notion of being stronger together, do you want to help build an economy that is going to work for everyone. you know, people are supportive of the minimum wage proposals that hillary has put forward. the equal pay proposals. people really do want to talk about those real things where i'm going. >> do they ever bring up the sorted stuff and ask you to answer for it? >> occasionally. for the most part, maybe this is just my privileged position

being the spouse of the vice presidential candidate, but i've just declined. i just think there's too much talk about the other side. we've got too much good stuff to talk about. >> let's talk about you and your husband and your relationship. what can you share with us about how he courted you because we do know of his handy harmonica that he carries around. did he break that out on the first date? >> well, there was music early on in our relationship, but i think it's safe to say, i courted him. >> is that right? >> we met at law school. he had taken off a year to work with missionaries in honduras and then came back, so we were in the same second year class in law school and i had heard about him and i was recruiting him for the student organization i was working with and i recruited him very effectively. >> oh, i guess so. more than you had anticipated. >> that's right. 32 years later. >> what would surprise us to learn about tim kaine? >> you know, i don't know -- tim has an encyclopedic memory.

it's infuriating to live with him because anything he ever once read or knew he still knows and, well, for instance, sports trivia. just don't even try to play sports trivia with him. you will lose any sport, any genre, college, pro. you got it. >> what does tim kaine think of the spotlight of what particularly this race, you didn't go into this expecting to talk about sexual allegations of assault on both sides and all that stuff. how has he -- >> we have to be turning the news off for our younger, our friends' younger children. >> do you do that? >> absolutely. it's too bad because kids are paying attention to the news and they should be but it shouldn't have to be censored. >> what does he say about finding himself in the middle of all this? >> you know, he's like me trying to be focused on real issues. that there are real differences between the parties on so many things, lgbt rights and the

proposal for the economy and he hasn't been shy about helping point out some of the differences. >> well, if hillary clinton and your husband win, you know, there is a sense, we heard this on the campaign trail, mike pence had to address it yesterday that all the donald trump supporters don't just go away. they don't go gently into the good night. their feelings and intense feelings that the country is on the wrong direction and their intense feelings that the political system is rigged. all of that stays around. then what? >> i think that's a good question, alisyn. i dathink that it o think it wi good and strong leadership and i do think it is the responsibility of leaders to bring out the best in people and i think we can get back to that quickly after election day. i think that there are leaders on both sides of the aisle who know how to work together. tim has worked with republican

leaders in his legislature. he had to, or he wouldn't have gotten anything done. he reached across the aisle in the senate. he hears in the hallways of the senate of people, again, from the other side who say we work would hillary when she was a senator. we know we can work with hillary. we worked with hillary when she was secretary of state. she worked with the other side when she was first lady to get health insurance for 8 million children. so, i think that there will be some pulling back from the brink and folks in leadership positions on both sides trying to help bring out the best in people and figure out how we can reunify our con. >> that's a nice vision. anne holton, thanks for coming in and talking about all of this on "new day." let's get over to chris. an avalanche of new s again trump. he walk under to the dressing room while some women were half naked. the allegations don't stop there. there. hear what she has to say, next.

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well, donald trump said he wanted to make this election about past allegations of sexual misconduct and now it is about his own. there are women coming forward who said he made unwanted advances towards them and two women telling their story to "new york times" and another magazine writer telling her own account and tasha dixon talked to don lemon about her own experience with donald trump and what left her feeling so vulnerable in a pageant dressing room. here's a piece. >> what happened when donald

trump came back stage from your experience? >> well, we were in the dress rehearsal of running the pageant and, you know, we're in the dressing room all 50 contestants are in one room and, you know, there's chaperons helping us change and what not and it was announced donald trump was going to come in and before you could put a robe or dress yourself he walked in. and, you know, some women were half naked, others were in the process of changing. >> what did you think? >> a person who is in that place of power that owns a pageant that, you know, we're running for on platforms and being interviewed puts us not only in a physical, vulnerable position but also an emotional state. you know, it's physically hum humiliating and have the owner come in and it's, you know, under this pressure of wanting to do good in this pageant and then you're wondering, you know, why he's coming in to inspect

the grounds, you know, it's not very professional in my opinion. >> did pageant officials say anything about this? did they tell you that donald trump was coming in? did say, you know, make sure you guys are dress. what did they say about you guys doing this for his arrival? >> it was a simple one line. mr. trump is going to come into introduce himself to you girls and he just waltz right in and that was the only warning we had. no warning to dress ourselves or anything. >> they didn't tell you how to act or anything or what to do? >> no. they didn't tell us how to act or anything, but, you know, it's just when you're in that position as a woman in a competition, you know, it just makes you wonder why he's in there and if you should be going up to him and talking to him or what not. >> i want to play this for you. this is kellyanne conway about

what she said with our brianna keilar here on cnn. >> there is no way for us to know what happened here. i'm the campaign manager as he runs for president. i, obviously, have never been in a beauty pageant, yet alone a swimsuit portion. and i certainly wasn't involved in one in 2001. so, i don't know how you want me to comment on it, brianna, with any type of credible voice. >> kellyanne conway said she wasn't there but other contestants denied he would behave in that manner. why do you think that is? >> i can attest to what i witnessed. and, you know, he came into the dressing room. i think the howard stern tape where he describes it speaks for itself. he may not have gone in every year he owned the pageant or into every pageant room but i can only attest for what i witnessed. >> there were reports that miss

teen usa vermont said she had the same experience in 1997 with mr. trump coming into the changing room area. >> as far as i know the miss teen pageant is from 13 to 17 or 18 to where you can compete. so, that's a whole different level of coming in on vulnerable women or young girl girls, if t happened. that's a real shame, if that happened. >> listen, i know this is very difficult for you to do. you know, initially when my producers spoke with you, you were very hesitant of doing it but you wanted to because you know it is important to come forward. people are going to question why you came forward and the timing of it. what do you say to them? >> i want people to be educated in who they are choosing to elect to run our nation and, you know, essentially be the most powerful person on the planet. i want people to have knowledge

as to what i know happened and what he says himself and then go from there in your decision and have a full y educated decision. >> not an easy thing to do. that's for sure. now she is in the crosshairs of election scrutiny. let's bring in cnn contributor, democratic strategist, clinton supporter maria cardona and political editor for rightsalerts.com and scottie nel-hughes. what does the campaign do? the clinton campaign. they say they want to talk about the issues. they don't want tao relitigate the past. but dayou ignore the allegations from women? is that disrespectful to them? >> you have a statement that the communications director jennifer palmieri put out that said clearly that the words that donald trump said were just words and the awfulness that we

heard on that tape were not just words. that they actually led to some actions and we're seeing that play out in these allegations and these women. but i think that what the clinton campaign does and what they have been doing all along is connecting that kind of behavior to what is a real issue in this country, chris. when you have 53% of the electorate that are women and you have one of the candidates that is running for president of the united states. his treatment of women is a huge issue for the country. is a huge issue for the future of our families. not just our girls, but our boys. we want to make sure that the person that we elect president understands that women are not inferior. that women are not objects to be ogled and to be used for their benefit, for their pleasure and that women are not to be used -- if you are in a position of power and we all know that is what sexual assault is about. abusing your power. so, this is an issue that we need to be talking about.

unfortunately, it has come out in this lewd manner, but i think it points to the fact and this is a big case that the clinton campaign is making and i think it's the right one. that leads to issues that this man is not fit to be president of the united states. >> all right, scottie, you have this task of defending the campaign on this defending donald trump. you tweeted not too long ago asking whether or not this was a conspiracy by ""the new york times" by doing a character assassination against donald trump. that's what you think this is? >> the same song, different verse. i agree with maria, women should not be used. we have seen starting back to 2008 with john mccain putting out that he was having an affair with a lobbyist a few weeks before the election. and that stole all the headlines. here we have a presidential candidate, let's move forward to 2012. mitt romney who, while i don't necessarily agree with the actions he had this time, he is

pretty much a boy scout, personally. they did everything to demonize him. they talked about him withholding drug from cancer payments and this is the same song, different verse and the democrats always play and especially very important this year because hillary clinton is having a problem with women. she was hoping she'd have this overwhelming 99% of all women should support her and she's not seeing those numbers. we are going to see every day 20 some odd days out until the election, we're going to see these types of accusations and they are just accusations to come out and go against mr. trump. >> scottie, let's leave to the side the fact that you don't give something just accusations as a defense to hillary clinton in the same area of things. but in terms of the timing, donald trump started this discussion about let's look at the past. let's look at this. he did that in the last phase of this campaign. supporters of his have been begging wikileaks to create an

october surprise. do you really believe you can put it on "the new york times" to jump something at the end of this campaign given all that? >> absolutely. it's not just accusations that come from this. the four women last week, those women had much impact on the female voters. yesterday we have it proven with the wikileaks when podesta comes out and they're talking about the bastardization of the faith and the catholics and conservative catholics and talk about hispanics which, maria, i'm interested to find out calling them needy latinos about hispanic leaders. they're not just accusations but facts and they're in black and white and you cannot ignore them if you're hillary clinton. >> let's talk about those things. is it a fact that they were talking about catholicism. no, it is a fact. they were talking about catholicism and murdoch and they

use the word to do what? to make it like evangalism. they are very different faiths within the body of christianity. but the idea that clinton doesn't like catholics, doesn't like latinos, and you see that in the e-mails, how do you rebut that? >> i rebut that by saying you need to look at her policies and what she has done throughout her whole life and what the campaign has done. as you have pointed out podesta and palmierry are faithful catholics, you're a catholic, i'm a catholic. even corey is a catholic. we understand that that's not what was going on. they were having a private conversation about catholicism. but let's look at her record and let's talk about the catholic vote. actually the person who's in trouble when it comes to the catholic vote is donald trump. and the catholic vote has been one that has normally been split. right now they are geerg towards hillary clinton. the same as women. so, those are the issues. >> maria, scottie, i appreciate the conversation. i'm tight on time and

unfortunately we're going to have plenty more opportunity to discuss these allegations. thank you to both of you. alisyn? >> that is a safe bet, chris. from the accusations against trump to stolen and revealing e-mails from the clinton campaign, how will these controversies affect the race? we look at the road to 270 electoral votes and the latest state polls next. ack. but the specialists at ford like to show off their strengths: 13 name brands. all backed by our low price tire guarantee. yeah, we're strong when it comes to tires. right now during the big tire event, get a $140 rebate by mail on four select tires. ♪ ♪

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all right. so all of this new slew of allegations, what's it going to mean in the poll? let's take a look at the numbers, the road to 270. the electoral number you need to be to be president of the united states with cnn political director david chalian. what do we know about the state of play, david, with respect to women? >> we've got two national polls since those tapes came out last friday. look at this nbc/"wall street journal" poll here. hillary clinton and donald trump are tied among men, 39% to 39%. but among women hillary clinton has a 17 point lead there, 53% to 33%. donald trump needs to be much better against men in order to overcome her advantage with

women. take a look at our instant poll, the cnn orc poll we did after the debate sunday night. obviously she won the debate in our poll big so she won both men and women. she won men 29% to 38% in terms of who thought they won the debate. women, hillary clinton won the debate according to -- by a 34% margin of those who watched the debate on sunday night in our instant poll, 64% to 30%. >> so david while you're there at the map, walk us through the path to 270. >> right, alisyn. so remember this is where we stand right now. we really have four remaining true battleground states. and it's just not enough for donald trump. this shows how tricky it is for him. look here if he were to win nevada, florida, north carolina, and ohio, i give him all four remaining true battleground states. he still is only at 264. it's not enough. he doesn't have 270 here. so he has to start digging in to some democratic leaning territory like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, if he's going to have any kind of chance

at 270. >> okay. >> so now, when we take a look at this you have the path to 270 but it's going to come down to a handful of states. it's going to come to a handful of counties. let's look at the blue states. those that are usually democratic. how are those flowing? >> we have new polling out this morning in three critical as you say blue states. let's start here in pennsylvania. hillary clinton nine point advantage 47% to 38% in a brand new bloomberg poll out in pennsylvania this morning. how about michigan. that could be another place donald trump could go fishing for votes. michigan, 42% to 31% hillary clinton has an eleven point lead in michigan. and yesterday in wisconsin, we got this marquette law school poll that shows hillary clinton with a 13 point lead 44% to 37%. so, the blue wall of defense that hillary clinton has built is holding, which is making donald trump's road to 270 that

much more difficult. >> david tell us about this new reporting that donald trump is pulling some of his campaign resources or maybe all of them out of virginia? >> right. so there are reports here, listen, virginia has been trending clinton for this entire election season which is just astonishing politically, because until barack obama won it in 2008 it didn't go democratic since 1964. but it is really a trending democratic state now. and now there are these reports that the the trump campaign is going to focus most exclusively on florida, ohio, north carolina and pennsylvania. those are their four states. virginia is not part of that coalition. again, it really is coming down in terms of where they're putting their resources. can they take pennsylvania away from hillary clinton and the democrats, where it's been since 1988, and bring it into the trump fold? you just saw that new bloomberg poll? that's going to be tough. >> our criticism for weeks of trump making this turn towards bill clinton and hillary clinton's implication in his sex ploits was how does that expand his base?

obviously this wave of allegations about trump specifically can't help but where is he in terms of expanding his base? if he was expanding his base we would see it in this pennsylvania poll senior but we don't. we see hillary clinton actually increasing her margin in pennsylvania. if donald trump was adding voters to his coalition right now we would see it in a place like pennsylvania, or in michigan. that's not happening. that's why he's just blockading himself with a very, very difficult road to 270. >> david chalian thanks so much for going through all of the numbers for us. >> it is mind blowing how much has changed in the last twelve hours. there is a lot of news. let's get to it. >> we want trump. >> i see all these women for trump signs. i love this. >> explosive new allegations against donald trump. >> the police-robe, he walked

in. >> the whole world has heard how donald trump treats women. we're not going to let donald trump get away with it, are we? >> this took place years ago. we're first hearing about it 27 days before the election. >> wikileaks, right? big stuff. she has to go to jail. >> they're going to use a quote scorched earth strategy. that just shows how desperate they are. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day" up first the election has taken another sordid turn. donald trump said his lewd comments about women was just locker room talk. that he never did what he said. this morning, several women have come forward saying trump is a liar, a legend, he made unwanted advances toward them >> trump denies these new allegations, and he's threatening lawsuits. it's already ugly presidential race becoming a fight over who has treated women worse.