good evening, thank you for joining us. as two more accusers come forward bringing the total to eight. what donald trump thinks of one of them. >> when you look at that horrible woman last night you said, i don't think so. >> trump today talking about jessica leeds, our guest on the program last night. she said that trump groped her

on a flight in the '70s. trump suggesting she was too unattractive to bother. the focus shifted from her to two newer accusers. another damaging day for the campaign. >> when you get hit, you hit back. >> donald trump is lashing back even as more women come forward accusing him of making unwanted sexual advances. >> they have no witnesses. there's nobody around. they just come out. some are doing it for probably a little bit of fame. they get some free fame. it's a total setup. >> the "washington post" publishing another alleged incident today involving kristin anderson, who says trump reached under her skirt and groped her at a crowded new york nightclub in the early '90s. >> the person on my right, who unbeknownst to me at that time was donald trump put their hands up my skirt. he did touch my vagina through

my underwear, absolutely. >> trump today calling anderson's claim false. >> one came out recently where i was sitting alone in some club. i don't really sit alone that much. honestly, folks, i don't think i sit alone. i was sitting alone by myself and then i went up to somebody -- i just heard this one -- it's unbelievable. >> as trump pushes back against the accusations, his running mate said the campaign will soon be providing proof. >> well, just stay tuned. i know there's more information that will be coming out that will back his claim this is categorically false. >> reporter: mike pence responding to first lady michelle obama's emotional speech on thursday, rebuking trump's sexually aggressive comments about women hot on a hot mike during a 2005 taping for "access hollywood." >> this would not just allude conversation. this wasn't just locker room banter. this was a powerful individual,

speaking freely and openly about sexually predatory behavior. and actually bragging about kissing and groping women. >> the indiana governor today saying the first lady's message was off base. >> look, i have a lot of respect for the first lady and the job she's done for the american people over the last 7 1/2 years, but i don't understand the basis of the claim. he denied the allegations. >> reporter: another one of trump's accusers jessica leeds telling cnn's anderson cooper that trump groped her while they were next to one another on a flight nearly 30 years sglaeg did he actually kiss you? >> yeah. >> on the face, on the lips? >> wherever he could find a landing spot, yes. his hands were ever where. >> reporter: trump responding today suggesting leeds was not attractive enough to interest

him. >> i was with donald trump in 1980, i was sitting with him on a airplane. and he went after me on the plane. yeah, i'm going to go after -- believe me, she would not be my first choice. that i can tell you. >> reporter: as the trump campaign reels from accusations of sexual assault, his eldest son drawing attention for comments he made in 2013 suggesting women who cannot handle sexual harassment should find another job. >> if you can't handle some of the basic stuff that's become a problem in the work place today, you don't belong in the work force. you should go maybe teach kindergarten. it is a respectable position. >> jason is joining us. the amazing thing that donald trump said about jessica leeds is jessica leeds predict he would go after her looks and one of the reasons she put photographs of herself from the late '70s so people would see the way she lookeden this

because she was worried that donald trump would attack her for her looks. donald trump wrapped up this rally in the last hour. what did he said about the allegations. >> donald trump said no one respects women, he said, more than he does. but when he was talking about his accusers, as you said he did just that, talked about their looks and a number of things. what he didn't do is what some folks wanted to do which was to stay on message. at one point there was a man who shouted stay on the issues, stay on the issues. later kellyanne conway, his campaign manager tweeted that was me shouting 0 that. of course it wasn't. it was a african-american man who identified himself as a trump supporter. it's clear that there are those within the trump camp that want to see him focus on the issue and stay on message. it is obvious that donald trump thinks this is part of his message. >> thank you. the number of accusers has been growing all week.

since the video that trump and billy bush leaked out last friday. more loo from ed lavandera. >> the first of eight accusers came forward this week. for her the presidential debate in st. louis that prompted her to speak out. she couldn't believe what she had just heard. >> we hear anderson cooper ask her a number of times, is this something that you did? did you grope women? did you kiss them and he adamantly says no. i jumped off of my couch. i was like you are a liar. >> reporter: another one came today. she appeared on trump's reality show "the apprentice." air force she was kicked off the show he asked to meet her at a beverly hills hotel. >> he came to me and kissed me open mouth as he was pulling me toward him. i tried to push him away.

i pushed his chest, put space between us and said come on, man, get real. he repeated my words back to me. get real as he began to brush his genitals. >> kristin anderson was an aspiring model in new york. according to the "washington post" anderson had never met or seen donald trump in person until he sat down next to her one night in a manhattan dance club. >> the person on my right, who unbeknownst to me at that time was donald trump, put their hands up my skirt. >> reporter: trump today calling anderson's claim false. natasha stoynoff, a writer for "people" magazine, says that trump forcibly kissed her and pinned her down while on a reporting assignment at trump's mar-a-lago estate in florida. and jessica leeds says trump

grabbed her breasts and put his hands up her skirt on a plane in the early 1980s. donald trump, again, friday, denied all of the allegations against him and described it all as a political smear campaign. >> i don't know who these people are. i look on television, i think it's a disgusting thing. >> reporter: which is exactly how mindy mvgillvray says trump treated her one night backstage after a ray charles concert at the mar-a-lago estate. mcgillivray was there with a friend, waiting to get her picture taken with the singer when she said trump grabbed her from behind. >> and he didn't give me a second glance. he knew what he did. i know he knew what he did. i could tell by looking at his smug face, he knew exactly what he did. and i told her, donald just grabbed my ass. and he was like, what do you want to do about it? i was like, i was silent. you know, i don't want to do anything. she said she regrets not confronting the billionaire right on the spot and despite trump's insistence that he

treats women with respect, all of the women who have come forward say trump treated them like objects that he could have his way with. >> what would you tell donald trump today? >> you're a sick, sick person. and if you don't acknowledge it, then maybe he's just a helpless old man who needs to step down. >> ed, was she surprised at the amount of other women who are now coming forward? >> i think she has been. and i think it's important to point out for viewers now, so many of these women who have now come forward, when mindy came forward, it was actually one of the first ones that did, and she said she did when she first reached out to a reporter at a local newspaper here in florida, that she had no idea that other people had come forward and that the women in "the new york times" article were coming forward. so she thought she was kind of going out on a limb by herself. >> ed lavendera, thanks very much. seven days ago, television viewers had the not especially uplifting experience of seeing our next guest through the eyes of trump and billy bush.

our next guest had the experience of meeting them, not knowing they had been an ugly but accurate phrase sizing her up. >> look at those legs. all i can see are the legs. >> looks good. >> come on, shorty. >> nice legs, huh. >> get out of the way, hon. oh, good legs, huh. >> go ahead. >> always good if you don't fall out of the bus. like gerald ford, remember? >> down below. pull the handle. >> hello, how are you? hi. >> hi, mr. trump, how are you? >> nice to meet you. >> terrific. terrific. >> you know billy bush. >> how you doing, arianne. >> would you like a little hug, darling? >> absolutely. >> melania said this was okay. >> how about for bushy? i just got off the bus? >> here we go. excellent.

nice co-star here. >> ariana zuker was on "days of our lives" then and she's an actress. she's on our show tonight. when did you first hear about the tape? >> let me just start by saying, when i first heard about this tape -- i did this in 2005, and we all know it's been going. and i had absolutely no idea. absolutely none. >> because -- >> that's been a question. it's very unsure if i knew and,, you know -- >> because everything was said on the bus before -- >> before, right. so when i did find out, i found out friday before it was released, my manager actually called and said, hey, did you give a tour or something -- >> 11 years ago -- >> right. i can barely remember yesterday. but -- and i said, sure. and slowly, but surely, it all started to come out. and at first, i found it just sort of interesting. but i didn't think it would be

such a huge, monumental issue. >> did you see the tape right away? >> no, i read the transcript first. >> you read a transcript? >> yes. >> does it have the same impact -- >> it doesn't. >> because you almost think it's rather silly. i'm a pretty confident, strong woman. i modeled when i was younger. i've seen a lot of things and been in a lot of situations, and i was like, that's really not a big deal to me. until you see the video and go, well, that son of a rip. >> so you had already read the transcript when you saw the video, but when you saw the video, you had a very different reaction. >> it was -- i think i just was more taken aback. and my boyfriend and i sat down for lunch and said, well, let's see what happens. and of course, we were watching cnn and we'd flip back and forth and see what was going on and how it was being received. and i think we just -- you know, we just watched for about an hour and --

>> that's got to be sort of surreal? >> it was very surreal. i didn't even know if i had a reaction for a while. we were just sort of sitting. and you know that, if you've ever fallen down and been winded, it almost felt like that kind of feeling. more of a, i can't believe this is happening. >> it's been now exactly a week since it was released. i want to play the first part where they're talking on the bus before they've met you. and just to get your sense of a week later, hearing what you think. let's play that. >> okay. >> yeah, that's her. with the gold. i've got to use some tic tacs, just in case i start kissing her. you know, i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet. i don't even wait. and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab 'em by the pussy. you can do anything. >> look at those legs. all i can see is the legs. >> no, looks good!

>> hearing it a week later, what do you think? it's -- it's not appropriate behavior. especially when you're in a work environment. maybe, if you want to consider it locker talk, locker room talk, whatever he said -- >> do you consider it just locker room talk? >> no. no. my brother, who is so close to me, would never speak about someone like that. he's 5 1/2 years older than i am and he's always been very protective of me. and the paternity, you know, years and years ago, we don't speak about it that way. and he was always very protective of me. and being raised sort of around his guy friends and just know -- to me, and being around my father, just -- i've never heard that kind of talk before. if you want to consider that locker room talk. no. >> for me, one of the strangest things, beyond what was said in

that clip, and even before, but then when they get off the bus, and actually meet you, and to see them interacting you, knowing -- i kept watching it, thinking, you have no idea what they have just said about you, and -- but they both know what they've been talking about, and so to watch their interaction with you, with the knowledge of what they have said, that you have no idea about, i don't know, for me, that really struck me. and just to remind our viewers, i want to play that part, because i do think it's a critical moment for a number of reasons. but let's take a look. >> hello. how are you? hi. >> mr. trump, how are you? nice to meet you. >> terrific. terrific. you know billy bush. >> how are you? >> nice to see you. >> are you ready to be a soap star? >> we're ready. let's go. make me a soap star. >> how about a lig hug for the donald? >> would you like a little hug darling. >> absolutely. >> melania said this was okay. >> i would, now, of course, watching it, if my daughter was

in the house when that was airing, she -- i think she probably would be upset, you know, she's been to work with me and she sees how appropriate behavior is and, yeah, it's -- you wonder, wow, you know, that's just not okay. it's not okay. >> and the whole thing, sort of encouraging a hug from you, given what they've just been talking about, just, personally for me, that sort of struck me. >> i will tell you, the day for me was amazing. you know, i felt honored to be hosting this little tour. you know, where "days of our lives" have been around now for almost 52 years, and you think, these are great cross-promotions, this is great business, these are great relationships to build for our network. and so for me, it was really a wonderful opportunity. and a wonderful day. so that's what i took away from the day. i can't, you know, lie about that. it was really wonderful. and then you watch the tape and, you know, ah, again, for me, i

feel -- because i've grown up in situations like this, and i've had my -- i have my own life story, as well, but everything that i've learned up until this point, i've grown to really push it off and be -- not really care about it, if you will. and just -- because, because there are -- there are men like that in higher power and in positions that will, you know, maybe make a flyby statement -- not quite like that, but i've definitely been in that type of situation before, when i was young. and you just go, great, thank you, or you're welcome, you know, it's easy to sort of walk away from. but when i realized, and like i put in my statement, when i understand the magnitude of those statements made behind closed doors, not just about me, and not every woman has gone through what i've gone through, to get in the place where i am, where i'm fine, it's not okay. and i feel like i needed to at

least say to my family, most importantly, and i've had a lot of fans that have been stressing the fact that -- are you okay? are you doing well? are you hurt? are you -- and of course, things -- when people say things behind your back, they're hurtful. and -- but, you know, we find a way to stand up and be strong. and i think, you know, for my family, it hurts probably more than for me. >> when we come back, arianne zuker and i talk about the role she's had this week in getting other women to come forward and tell their stories.

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donald trump. you heard her say that it hurts to see it, that it felt like a body blow, at one point, that it almost literally knocked the wind out of her. in part two of our conversation, she and i talked about some of the good the tape has done when it comes to encouraging others to share their stories. take a look. >> you have a 16-year-old, a 6-year-old daughter. do they know about this? have they heard? >> yes, my 16-year-old stepson, as we call him, he's not mine, but i just had a conversation with him yesterday about, you're such a wonderful young man, and, you know, i walked him sort of through the steps of what was going on and they talked about it at school, so it was brought up. and, you know, he just was interested in how things were going for me and, you know, i said, the thing that bothers me the most is how -- what your reaction would be to this. and i just want you to know, as someone who lives with you, is that you're an amazing young man.

i don't ever want this to affect the way you think about women or who you are as a young man growing up in today's society. and you know, he's a charming kid and he got it, i think, you know. sure if he has any questions, he'll ask. and my daughter, i haven't really defined what's happened, if i don't have to. i'm not going to. she's only 6. but with cameras and things, are kind of following you outside of grocery stores, you know, i'll remind her to always stand tall, no matter what anybody says about you. whether they're little boys or little girls, you know, stay strong and always know who you are as a woman and a young woman, i say, you're a young lady. and you're a beautiful -- you have a beautiful soul, and never let anyone take that away from you. and that's what i've had to learn to do as i've grown up in the entertainment business. >> you know, something like this, becoming visible, has ripple effects that one can't even predict. as you know, a number of people now have come forward.

and there's a woman named kristen anderson who's now come forward to "the washington post." and one of the things that sort of sparked her deciding to tell what she says happened to her was seeing the tape. and in particular, that interaction we just showed. i just want to show a little bit of what she told "the washington post". >> okay. >> i watched this woman, who could have been me, it could have been anyone, walk in and shake his hand. and that was just nauseating, because she has no idea what she's walking into. and what could possibly happen to her. >> it's interesting that, you know, so many people see it and it has effect in ways you can never predict. >> i remember coming into this, the entertainment business, and being an actor, i always believed that i have a -- i have -- i felt i have a responsibility as being somewhat of a name to be a mentor.

and if anything, i hope, i can bring some -- shed some sort of light on -- for these women. and if they're coming out, i'm glad they're coming out. because it's one step -- one step forward to healing. and, it's a very scary thing to talk about. it's very uncomfortable. and you can tell i'm stuttering, because i'm pretty sure almost every woman from the age of 13 until however old they are now has had something happen to them. and that is just not right. >> that's -- i think men do not understand that. i mean, the fact that so many women -- pretty much every woman i know have had to deal with this on some level is stunning to me. >> and what's crazy is, there are so many good men. i mean, i feel that there are more good men in this world than there are not. it's just that, unfortunately, the nots are the ones that we end up running into. and, you know, i have an amazing

father, like i said before, an amazing brother, an amazing boyfriend, and it's, it's -- to me, and i was listening to michelle obama's speech the other day, who is, to me, i'm very inspired by her speech yesterday, which, you know, helped me kind of sit here with me today, and remind myself -- it's scary. it's scary to come out and talk about it. because you don't know what the ripple effect will be. but for me, i can only hope that i can be part of the light. you know, i want to move forward now from this and say, what do we do now, ladies? men? everybody. where's the -- the balance is men and women together. we can start to change the situation. and last friday is when it started. and i think the future for my daughter will be much brighter because of the situation is now being talked about. when we come back, i ask arianne zucker whether she wants an apology from donald trump.

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it's been quite a week since that videotape from 2005 came out. it has also, obviously, been a painful and punishing week for all the women who have seen that

tape and been moved to come forward and tell their own stories of alleged encounters with donald trump. and as you've been hearing, it's been a week that leaves a deep mark on miss zucker, who's in the 2005 video. i asked her if shelves that donald trump owes her some kind of contrition for what she and her family has been through. do you want an apology from donald trump? from billy bush? i mean, is that something that is -- that would be important to you? i assume you have not received -- >> no, i haven't. i haven't. and i was reminded earlier about how important, you know, family is. and i don't particularly need one. you know, when you read people and see how they are and, you know -- i -- i just have to expect myself to be a good person. i've worked on it very hard in my life. and i have also spoken poorly about people when i was younger. and i had to walk up to them and apologize. and it takes a lot. and i think, you know, my family and my friends and my fans probably deserve the apology,

because, you know, they're the ones that have been so supportive in this. and -- but if you don't mean it, don't say it. it's a very simple principle. i try to teach my daughter, if she does something maybe in the house or she accidentally broke something and said, i didn't do it! i say, okay, honey, i would like you to apologize, but if you don't mean it, i don't want you to say it. i want it to come from your heart. i want you to know. >> did you think, donald trump now gave an initial apology when he said, if anybody was offended, you know, i apologize. >> mm-hmm. >> blamed -- you know, talked about bill clinton doing worse or saying worse things to him on a golf course. and later on, came forward with a more direct apology. what do you make of that? >> if your "sorry" has a "but" at the end of it, it's not an apology. to me. that's my personal opinion. but a very simple "i'm sorry"

good. unless you're saying, i'm sorry for doing this to you. but not, "i'm sorry, but." i think there's an excuse in there. >> so in terms of what can come out of this, you're hoping sop sort of change? >> yes, and i -- >> some sort of understanding? >> before this ever happened, you know, i started a nonprofit organization with my brother. and it still runs, and it's called a arrow heart adventure camps. and we work with young teens and part of my goal is building this strength and this confidence in young boys and young girls. that's what i -- i just want to keep doing what i'm doing. and not have that change. and if this, for the bigger picture, does something more and adds to that, then that is a blessing for me, because i'll continue to do what i've been doing.

i'll continue to work as an actress. i'll continue to run my nonprofit. i'll continue to play sidewalk chalk games with my daughter. and none of that is going to change who i am. in fact, i think this has made me better. it's humbled me even more, as a woman and made my reality very clear for me and what's important and that is family, friends, and honesty. >> a number of women have come forward, expressing what they say happened to them. donald trump, today, reacted to it yesterday, but he spoke about it more again today and i want to play some of what he said. not about you, but about some of the other people who have come forward and what they have to say. >> say, oh, i was with donald trump in 1980! i was sitting with him on an airplane. and he went after me on the plane. yeah, i'm going to go after you. believe me, she would not be my first choice! that i can tell you. one came out recently, where i

was sitting alone in some club. i really don't sit alone that much, honestly, folks. i don't think i sit alone. i was sitting alone by myself. like this. and then i went, wa. to somebody. >> i hadn't seen that yet, so -- um. yeah, it's -- i hate to get too much into, you know, the political campaign, but i think just as a person or an individual, um, it feels very dismissive. but i can see why he's dismissive. but not to take even into the slightest consideration that this woman is hurting. but i don't, i don't think i see that that matters. >> it's interesting, the woman, jessica leeds, who i interviewed yesterday, when i talked to her -- >> i saw that.

>> she said that she knew in coming forward that donald trump would make fun of the way she looked. >> mm-hmm. >> because she's 73 or 74 years old now. so that's one of the reasons she wanted people to see pictures of her back then, because she knew donald trump would say, or she believed donald trump would say something about, well, there's no way i would have, you know, touched a woman like her. >> i always think, be careful what you say. donald trump, anybody, just be careful what you say, because the repercussions will come back, eventually. whether it's tomorrow, whether it's 25 years from now. eventually they will come back in some way, shape, or form. and i think that it's probably coming out now. and you can't avoid behavior like that for long. >> thank you very much for talking to us. >> thank you, anderson. i appreciate being here. thank you.

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as we've said over the past seven days, at least eight women have accused donald trump of sexually assaulting them. among them, former "people" magazine writer, natasha stoynoff, who says trump forcibly kissed her while she was on assignment at trump's resort, mar-a-lago, in 2005. "people" published her account of the alleged assault earlier this week, and now melania trump is threatening to sue the magazine. she's also demanding an apology and a retraction. beyond that, mrs. trump has not responded publicly to any of the accusations. with more tonight, brian todd. >> right now i am being viciously attacked with lies and smears. it's a phony deal. i have no idea who these women are. >> reporter: as the accusations pile up, the most important woman in donald trump's inner circle has stayed silent and has been largely absent from the campaign trail since her ill-fated speech at the republican convention.

>> my parents impressed on me the values that you work hard for what you want in life. >> reporter: melania trump made it clear early in the campaign that she would focus much of her time raising their son, barron, but she did issue a statement the morning after the access ld tape came out. saying, quote, the words my husband used are indefensible and this does not represent the man i know. through her lawyers, mrs. trump sent a letter to the writers of of "people" magazine. she threatened to sue over a passage that the writer once casually met mrs. trump on the street. >> it's nitpicking and it's not part of the larger issue. >> reporter: how does melania trump really feel about all of the allegations? why hasn't she come out and spoken at any length about them to cameras? the campaign isn't commenting. mrs. trump does have examples to follow. >> usually, in campaigns, wives are used to be validaters of their husband. to be a voice to talk about

their husband. wives in campaigns or spouses in general in campaigns are often used to tell the public about a side of the candidate that they otherwise would not know. >> a role immortalized by hillary clinton in a 1962 interview after jennifer flowers said she'd had a long-standing affair with bill clinton. >> i'm not sitting here like some little woman sitting by my hand. -- man like tammy wynette. i'm sitting here because i love him and i respect him. and if that's not enough for people, then, heck, don't vote for him. >> but so far, none of that from melania trump. it's been left to her husband. >> by the way, we're stronger today than we ever were before. >> "the new york times" reports that donald trump and his advisers have considered a joint television interview that he and melania trump would give to a major network. but "the times" says after a statement from the "access hollywood" anchor who trump talked about in that initial

tape, and after excerpts from his interviews with howard stern came out, campaign officials nixed that idea. the trump campaign would not comment on that or give us any comment for this story. anderson? >> brian, thanks very much. donald trump, obviously, has a long history of filing lawsuits or threatening lawsuits. he's also known for saying that he doesn't believe in settling them. >> you know, most people settle. i don't like settling. i'll win the trump university case. i could settle that case. i could have settled it. i just choose not to. in fact, when i ran, they said, why don't you settle up that case? i don't want to settle up the case. you know what, because i'm a man of principle. when you settle cases, everybody keeps doing it. does that make sense? when they have to go through a case, it takes years and years. like, this case has been going on for four or five years. when they have to go through the pain of really going through a case and really -- i don't get sued very often. the reason i don't is they say, oh, trump will never settle. they like to go to the settlers. i don't want to settle cases when we're right. i don't believe in it. and when you start settling

cases, you know what happens? everybody sues you. because you get known as a settler. one thing about me, i am not known as a settler. >> tim o'brien, author of "trump nation: the art of being the donald," was sued by trump who said the book libeled him by low balling his net worth. the suit dragged on for years before the case was eventually dismissed. trump appealed and he lost. trump clearly has a pattern of threatening litigation. i mean, do his threats -- is there follow-through? >> there rarely is, anderson. he's been doing this for 40 years. he threatens to sue business partners, business competitors, the government, politicians, the media. and more often than not, he never even files any paper. you know, he learned this from roy cohn. you know, roy was sort of his great mentor in using litigation -- >> roy cohn was a legendarily nasty piece of work. >> and donald's lawyer until he died in the early '90s. and donald really learned this

art of using the threat of litigation to get your way. it's been an effective tool for him sometimes. >> because, obviously, people don't want to get into litigation. a lot of people don't have access to lawyers like donald trump does. so they're scared. >> and they don't have the money he has to litigate. >> to drag something out in a lawsuit for years and years and years. >> and it's a rounding error for him. but for other people, it's real money. >> it's also fascinating, we haven't heard it so much lately in the campaign, but early on in the campaign, part of his stump speech, but in many public appearance, he talks about how you never settle lawsuits. if you settle lawsuits, it only brings on more lawsuits. and he would brag about this. but the truth is, he settles lawsuits with some regularity. >> indeed, he does. in our case, i think he wanted to settle on two different occasions. it's just -- as in everything he says, you can't take him at face value about these things. >> that's the whole mythology, i don't settle, i'm a tough guy. but the truth is, i do settle, because it makes sense. it's a sensible business strategy to settle. >> it is.

>> in the run-up to the suit against you, i think you've said that donald trump tried to intimidate you? >> well, he, you know, i didn't at the time, you know, i was doing a series of book readings and his attorney showed up at one of the book readings and came up and said, you know, i'm a writer, too, wink, wink, and they had people in the audience who stood up and asked leading questions, like, aren't you out to write a book that's really going to damage donald trump. >> they would actually send people -- >> yeah, yeah, there was a couple people planted in the audience. i guess if i would have been a little shrewder at the time, i would have said, no, of course not, he's going to be president some day. but that didn't happen then. but he taped one of the book readings. and, you know, to be fair, all's fair in love and war. they were contemplating a lawsuit. i think they were entitled to be as aggressive with me as they wanted to. >> it's common for attorneys to hire private detectives, follow people, gather evidence. >> it is. and i think that's part of the rules of the game. and i was fortunate enough to be

with institutions, both my book publisher and "the new york times," that had the resources that once, you know, he engaged, we were able to fight back. that's not the case with less well-heeled the defendants. >> tim o'brien, thanks for being on. >> thanks, anderson. up next, second graders weigh in on the battle for the white house. they have some advice for donald trump and hillary clinton. i am rich.

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the new york city suburb of chappaqua. these are seven of the second graders at calhoun. thank you for having us here. >> what are the names of the people running are for president? >> hillary clinton and donald trump. >> and which one -- which one is a republican and democrat? >> donald trump's the republican, and hillary clinton is the democrat. >> what do you think the president needs the do? >> i think the president should make a law kids get to stay up before bedtime. >> wahoo. >> and eat sweets. >> yeah. >> and vote for mason as president. >> mason, you've been nominated as president. do you want to see mason as president? >> yes, mason, mason, mason! >> what do you think donald trump does for a living? >> he tells people to build buildings so he can make money. >> does he build the buildings? >> no. is he out there with a hard hat? >> no. >> he makes a lot of money? >> yeah.

>> how much money do you think donald trump has? >> at least 1 million a day. >> at least $1 million a day. >> $900. >> what do you think hillary clinton's job is? >> i think he job is to go on the ellen show. >> i always watch it. >> i think her husband was president already and she was already a first lady. >> that's exactly right. do you know what her husband's name is? >> bill clinton. >> george washington? >> no, not george washington. >> bill clinton's old, but he's not as old as george washington. >> bill clinton. >> bill clinton. here's a video from the debate. i want you to see this. >> it's just not so true -- >> you didn't delete them? >> allow her to respond. >> personal e-mails. >> 33,000? >> we turned over-35,000. >> what about the other 15,000? >> please allow her to respond. she didn't talk while you talked. >> what do you think when people talk over you talk. does that make it very much fun to watch? >> not very much fun. >> what would you say to them to

-- about interrupting each other? >> it would be like you're in school. when you take turns to say something. >> so you would say pretend like you're in second grade. >> i have advice for donald trump. >> do not say mean words about hillary clinton. she needs some respect, man. give the lady a chance. >> let me ask you this. don't you think she should be nice to him, too? >> yes. >> there's an expression, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. do you all agree? >> yeah. >> do you think they should follow the example of second graders better? >> yes. >> yeah. >> yeah? >> but if like, if you want kids to believe in you, you some show them a proper way how to talk to other people and give people turns so like little kids could be inspired. >> i want to thank all of you for inviting us to calhoun school. >> you're welcome!

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if you're looking to escape the presidential race for a little bit over the weekend, and frankly who isn't, i've got a suggestion, don't miss anthony bourdain, anthony goes to sweat over the spicy cuisine. in the region of china he went to. we sat down for a meal in new york city. we talked about an adventure over dinner. take a look. >> so szechwan, everyone knows szechwan food, what did you do?

>> i went to a place i had been before, probably the spiciest food, generally, szechwan food, cuisine is. the principal elements are ma, and la. >> ma and la? >> one of them appears to the super nova of burning of peppers which inflame the whole head and set your hair on fire and then the other is the shez want flower peppers, which have a confusing, numbing effect. i don't know if you've ever seen nine and a half weeks. imagine a naughty nurse with clamps and an ice cube kind of thing. regardless of whether you're into that or not, you go to szechwan you find things you

didn't know were there. i love it. >> okay. >> that was a thymus gland. that was a what? >> that was a thymus gland. >> where would that be? >> i think it's somewhere around your neck. >> glad i didn't know before i ate it. >> sweet breads, i believe. ri devote. >> that sounds much better. >> you never know what you're going to get with that guy. don't miss anthony bourdain. sunday at 9:p.m. and pacific. thanks for watching. "cnn tonight" with don lemon starts now. the women, not the war with mexico, not the mass deportations, not the muslim ban, not the tax returns, but call the women coming forward accusing donald trump of unwanted sexual advance -- is that what will finally end donald trump's end for the white house? this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. two more women coming forward, describing in graphic detail what they claim trump did to