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eight points. 47% for hillary clinton and 39% for donald trump. so much is at stake. only two days until the final debate. 22 days until election day. so, let's begin our coverage with cnn's phil mattingly. phil, give us the latest. >> no shortage of issues that donald trump has pushed throughout his campaign as rigged. whether it's the media or the political establishment. the iowa caucuses. but this pushing the electoral results as rigged in its entirety is a new and very dark term. one that is unsettling, even some of his republican supporters. >> remember this. it's a rigged election. >> reporter: for donald trump there is only one reason he's trailing in the polls. a conspiracy to keep him out of the white house. >> the election is being rigged by corrupt media pushing completely false allegations and outright lies in an effort to elect her president. >> reporter: in rally after rally, tweet after tweet, trump
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pushing the theory without any evidence or recent historical precedent that the electoral results will be rigged. trump's running mate, mike pence, trying to tone down the rhetoric saying trump doesn't mean literal electoral rigging. >> we will accept the results of the election. the american people are tired of the obvious bias in the national media. that's where this sense of a rigged election goes here. >> reporter: but trump undercutting that very message only minutes later tweeting explicitly that the election is, "absolutely being rigged at many polling places." this part of a trump twitter storm that included multiple personal attacks against house speaker paul ryan. ryan pushing back on trump's rigged election theory. a spokeswoman telling cnn, the speaker is fully confident the election will be carried out with integrity. hillary clinton's running mate tim kaine calling on more republicans to speak out against trump's allegations. >> he started to make wild claims. kind of scorched earth claims
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about the election being rigged, et cetera. so, we have to keep putting out a message and we need to call on everybody to speak out about the fact that we run elections and we run them well here. and we ask the gop leaders also to stand up for the integrity of the american electoral process. >> reporter: trump also continuing to fire back at allegations of sexual assault and unwelcome sexual advances. now, accused by nine women. trump attacking their veracity, their character and their looks. >> believe me, she would not be my first choice. that i can tell you. >> reporter: and unleashing one new line of attack on hillary clinton that she's taking performance enhancing drugs. >> we should take a drug test prior -- because i don't know what's going on with her. >> reporter: the clinton campaign calling this a shameful attempt to undermine the election. ed all eyes on that debate in las vegas on wednesday. donald trump taking a day off
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the campaign trail to prepare for that debate. hillary clinton doing the same thing. she has been offa couple days now. she prepares for that final debate. the final look, really, the entire country will get with only 22 days left until the election. >> phil, i forget. are you assigned to review the pee test of the two candidates and try to figure out if -- >> i was told that was an alisyn job. was i lied to about that? >> we'll have to wait and see. let's discuss this banter with trump supporter scottie nell-hughes and christine quinn. scottie, do you believe this election is rigged? >> well, there is two folds to that. a rigging in the case of the media and the exposure and the attention they're giving to donald trump versus hillary clinton. we looked at last week, according to abc, cbs, nbc, they
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spent 4 hours and 32 minutes talking about trump scandals and wikileaks spent 36 minutes. that's a one to seven ratio. you cannot deny that there is some sort of bias going on in the media. then the other side is rigged according to the voters on election day. pew research in february 2012 said one in eight voter registrations are inaccurate. they are no longer valuable. that's 146 million registered voters in the united states today. 1.8 million has some sort of fraud or something wrong with their voter registration. solution, voter i.d. laws. that's why republicans are pushing so hard for it. >> yeah, except they don't like when you register for your license, you register to vote. these are complex issues. christine? the justice center in 2007 and the student effort that spent a year on this "philadelphia enquirer." the idea of widespread corruption in elections is
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widely debunked. what do you make of this argument? >> there is no truth that there is a historical rigging of elections or voter fraud or anything of that nature because it is really important, chris, that they go out and vote and vote who they want to vote for and note that in america that is something we do well and always do well. let's be honest. what we're seeing here from donald trump is the whining of a school yard bully who is getting beaten and is losing. we can all digest that. that is not a shock coming from donald trump, but the bigger issue here is that he's whining because he's losing over one of the most important procedures and most important rights americans have. something that people have fought and died to get and protect. and the message he's sending is when he loses is bad for america. it really is incumbent upon everyone regardless of party to stand up and say we take our
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elections seriously in the united states and this is just baseless whining that has nothing to do with the facts. >> scottie, it's totally allowable these days to say, hey, if she wins, everything is going to go terribly. that's fair. but to attack the system, does that trouble you at all? of course, you have the speaker of the house, numerous gop officials and one in charge of the election in ohio who says, please, don't say this kind of stuff. the election is going to be legitimate. he would back and support hillary clinton if she won the election and now he's changing. does it bother you to criticize the system and undermine confidence that way? >> not at all because right now it's all about who is going to turn their people out to the polls. the clinton camp has one way of doing and the trump camp is saying you have to turn out. no way you can't stay home this year if you want to see the republicans take over the white house. >> it's okay to say you have to go out there or they will steal the race from us?
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>> here's the technical. 1.8 million people are deceased on the voter registrations right now. 2.95 million are voted, are registered to vote in one state. there are some issues that need to be addressed right now with voter registration and making sure it's accurate. >> even in philadelphia where they looked at it, you can't uncount votes. a lot of these systems have catch alls for these things. there's certainly problems. it's ridiculous we don't vote online. we do everything else online. but to undermine confidence. he's saying it's already rigged. he's saying if i lose, it's because they did it dirty. you don't think that that is a bad thing to suggest with no proof? >> it's funny that you bring up philly where there was not a single vote for mitt romney in 2012. election commissioners are actually being -- >> no, there were votes for romney. it's the idea of in certain districts you guys say he didn't get any.
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but that's not. it's not done in districts. it's done in divisions. some divisions have as few as 600 people. if you do a google search, you'll see obama didn't get some votes in parts of utah. it happens with small numbers of voters in big cities. it's overwhelmingly democrat. >> can i just jump in. what i think we're hearing scottie say is that it's perfectly fine to attack a fundamental right that this country is based on. democratic election that it is okay to attack and undermine that, regardless of the future implications. if it somehow helps mr. trump's voters get out. that this is all just about politics. but some things and i think you would see that in hillary clinton's campaign are bigger than politics. bigger than you winning or losing or me winning and losing or whatever. it's about the future of this country and both of these people are running to lead this country
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and you only have one person steeped in the reality of that, hillary clinton. donald trump is willing to slash and burn and willing to do anything to try to hold on to a shred of winning. quite frankly unpatriotic. >> one reason he has so much momentum behind is that a lot of people believe the system is set up to help the elites and not people like them and donald trump is given a voice. now wikileaks whether they get it illegal or whatever the e-mails are out there. when hillary clinton was talking to goldman sachs she was talking to the crowd. is that the kind of disposition to have towards that industry when they have gotten away with bad behavior time and time again? who else needs a stronger message that we're not going to take it from you any more other than them and when she was getting paid by goldman sachs she played to the crowd. >> talking about playing to the crowd -- >> no, her talking to goldman sachs. those e-mails.
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she's playing to the crowd. she's saying, dodd frank, i had to do it politically. what is that about, christine? >> you know, i think what you saw in hillary's speeches is her saying she is going to regulate this industry. >> that's not what she said. don't you want to own this a little bit? >> i want to say very clearly that hillary clinton has, in the past in her votes and her service in the senate and made clear moving forward as president that she's going to regulate this industry. she's going to ask for their input. yes, that's appropriate. but, chris, this is talking about how an issue is going to be handled and vetted out through the executive and the legislative process, which is completely different than someone like donald trump who in his deal to hold on to a slice of victory, which i don't believe will happen, he is attacking sexual assault survivors and attacking hillary clinton with these absurd drug charges and he's attacking and
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trying to erode the fundamental right of our country. you want to talk positions on issues? i think everyone wishes we had more of that vetting out the specifics of wall street regulation. but donald trump is dragging things down through this kind of wild and bombastic tweeting in the middle of the night. >> part of the reason, we have to leave it there for now. part of the reason he has momentum is because he thinks the system is to set up the elite. >> he has less and less momentum every day. less and less. >> scottie nell hughes and christine quinn. thank you. federal authorities are trying to figure out who fire bombed a republican headquarters in north carolina. no one was in the building when a flammable substance was thrown through a window. the vandals spraypainted a message on the building, get out of town or else. now in a tweet, donald trump said, "animals representing hillary clinton and dems in north carolina just bombed our office in orwange county becaus
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we are winning. no evidence to support his claims. hillary clinton condemned the attack calling it horrific and unacceptable and very grateful everyone is safe. democrats have launched a fund-raising effort raising thousands of dollars to help reopen that republican office. a major step in the fight against isis is under way right now. it is the battle for mosul in iraq. you have the iraqi forces backed up by u.s.-led coalition. we are near the front lines. you have a live report coming up. a million people are in that city. your insurance company
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breaking news. witnessing the beginning of the end of isis in iraq. iraqi forces and u.s.-led coalition are launching the battle for mosul right now. that is considered the last isis stronghold in the country. military leaders call this a "decisive moment." now, its are just starting and a million plus people in the balance living there. senior international correspondent arwa damon live
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near mosul. we know the humanitarian effects of this have to be considered as well as the strategic benefits. what is the situation right now? >> well, chris, in the plains behind me, this is one of the first areas that the kurdish peshmerga pushed in the last 14 hours or so, ever since iraq's prime minister announced the beginning of this crucial battle. since then, we have been seeing air strikes. we have been seeing massive explosions, presumably car bombs or suicide car bombs. sporadic gun battles and all of this, chris, you can see is happening in open land, which means the coalition air strikes can be called in fairly easily. one needs to take into consideration that the same intensity of battle and moreso is going to be what we expect to transpire within the city of
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mosul itself. added to that, the reality that no one knows exactly what sort of preparations isis has in store. we do know that it has in the past historically booby trapped buildings, roads, sent wave upon wave of suicide bombers, used civilians as human shields. when it comes to mosul, which is really its prize, it is as many do anticipate going to have much more tactics perhaps that we haven't seen it employ in the past. as you mentioned they are hanging in the balance are the lives of some 1 to 1.5 million people. but, alisyn, this battle is crucial not just when it comes to getting isis out of iraqi territory, it's crucial for the future of isis how this all p y plays out. but also when it comes to the broader fight against isis throughout the entire region. >> arwa, thank you so much for
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being there and for your reporting. we need to hear that information. so, what is the u.s. role in the battle to retake mosul? let's ask pentagon press secretary peter cooke. good morning, peter. >> good morning, alisyn. >> what is the u.s. role so far in this battle? >> the u.s. role is the same as it has been for the last several months. we're continuing to support the iraqi security forces who are in the lead in this fight for mosul. other coalition members who are providing support, as well, for the iraqis. we have been training most of the forces that are part of this operation to take mosul. trained by coalition trainers over the course of the last few months. of course, as you heard arwa describe air power being brought to bear. since the start of october, alisyn, close to 70 air strikes in and around mosul. again, softening up those isol positions and providing intelligence and critical logistic support to the iraqis. let's be clear the iraqis in the lead and the iraqis taking the fight to isol.
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>> peter, can you tell us how many u.s. troops are involved? >> approximately 5,000 u.s. forces in iraq right now. they're doing a variety of different things. a substantial amount have been providing the training to the 12 iraqi brigades that we've trained over the last few months. all part of this operation. we also have logistical folks. we have engineers. we have force protection for our own people. they're all doing a variety of things but the main thing, alisyn, they're providing capabilities and enabling capabilities for the iraqis to carry out this fight. >> critics of the obama administration say why telegraph this information for weeks before the battle started to isis? i mean, basically what they suggest is that the administration somehow gave isis a running start. let me play for you what donald trump has said. >> so, we have announcements coming out of washington and coming out of iraq. we will be attacking mosul in three weeks or four weeks.
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all these bad leaders from isis are leaving mosul. why can't they do it quietly. general george paton and mcarthur are spinning in their grave at the stupidity of what we're doing in the middle east. >> that was last sunday, a week ago in the debate. what is your response to why can't you do it quietly? >> what i will say is that we have been echoing the prime minister of iraq himself who has been signaling to the people of mosul that help is on the way. that the liberation of mosul is coming and no surprise to isol and everyone in iraq and iraq's second largest city. there have been efforts to envelop mosul for months now. not a surprise to anyone. but there is an element of surprise as to how this is going be carried out over the next few days and weeks and this will be a long fight. to be sure, isol still has a lot of questionmark question marks
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be carried out and supported by the united states and international coalition. >> we heard from our reporters on the front lines there talking about just vast number of civilians who are in the way. who are in and around mosul. of course, part of talking about it is to try to get them out of the way. but our supporters said there could be more than a million people, civilians, trying to get out of the way and it will lead to this humanitarian crisis of epic proportion. what is the plan for that? >> of course, there are real concerns about the humanitarian situation. but, alisyn, i have to point out we had concerned in mosul since isol first moved in there. they have brutalized the population of mosul and trying to get isol out of there. supported by the international community, led by the united
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nations to try and, again, be prepared for civilians who will want to leave the battle space there. there is also an effort to reach out to civilians in mosul itself. just in the last 48 hours, for example, thousands of leaflets dropped over mosul by the government of iraq. more than 7 million leaflets dispersed over the next 48 hours. again, providing guidance and advice to the people of mosul how to conduct themselves. to some extent, the iraqis would like people in mosul to remain in their homes so they can be spared of the bat tool come in mosul. a complicated situation, a difficult situation, but the iraqis are working on this with the international community. >> peter, it sure is going to be complicated. one of our isis experts michael weiss was just on saying the most anxiety question for him is what happens the day after this. the day after you get isis out of mosul which everyone anticipates will happen. then what?
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there is still all these different roaring factions from shiite militias to the kurds to iraqi insurgents who want that territory. what is the plan? >> well, of course, the government of iraq, this is going to be led by prime minister abadi and the one thing i would say, alisyn, on that front, this is an active area of discussion from this front. the one unifying thing throughout is that everyone wants isol to go and that has been very unifying. the prime minister has talked about, again, trying to do this the right way and to make sure at the end of this fight with isol a better, more unified iraq and that sectarian strife can be reduced, if not eliminated. that's something for the iraqis to sort out for themselves with support from the coalition and the united states has provided more than $1 billion in humanitarian assistance and other international contributors have done the same. this is all part of the effort
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to make sure isol defeated is a brighter day for the people of iraq. >> pete, thank you for all the information from the pentagon this morning. >> you bet. donald trump taking on the media claiming the election is rigged. proof? not so much. but we're going to discuss with republican congressman steve king, next. ♪ prepare for challenges specific to your business by working with trusted advisors who help turn obstacles into opportunities. experience the power of being understood. rsm. audit, tax and consulting for the middle market.
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donald trump escalating claims that the 2016 election is rigged. he's pointing fingers at us in the media. the polls, as well, international banks and the clinton campaign. is this his way of saving face in case he loses the election or some of the claims valid? let's discuss with the republican congressman steve king from iowa. he has endorsed donald trump. good to see you. help me understand what's happening here. in the first debate, trump said i will support clinton if she wins. now, it seems after these accusers came out the nine or so women who have been saying that donald trump did inappropriate things to them, now all of a sudden everything is rigged. do you agree with this
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statement? >> well, i think it's some of each. i say that because there are things going on out there that are part of the political machine that donald trump points to that have been part of the political machine for a long time. they do, they definitely tilt the playing field in the opposite direction, i think. but i also saw a bit of that pattern at the end of the iowa caucus when it was that contest that came out the way it did here. i think it's a little bit of each of that but i do think it is a good idea for the american voters to take a look at the system that we have. there is significant evidence out there that there is voter fraud. >> when you say there is fraud, what are you pointing to? look, nobody is saying that our voting system is perfect. there are lots of things that can be done to improve it. why it don't happen, why it's so antiquated is up do you guys. done state by state on many different levels. to suggest that, hey, maybe the election will be ilegitimate.
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don't you think that is a dangerous and unsubstantiated is decision? >> i wouldn't say it's completely unsubstantiated. i would look back at the 2000 election and the fiasco in florida and the 537 votes that decided the presidency and say that if al gore had not accepted the decision of the supreme court, we would have had discredited elections but, again, to say there is a little bit of proof, congressman, there is really no proof that there is any kind of fraud that has been prosecuted that would have changed the outcome of an election. >> in the past there have been in small cases. not in larger cases like the
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presidency. john fund has done a lot of good work on this. but that lays a foundation. these election laws are not really antiquated. the worst of them began about and making this more vulnerable for fraud ever since. 444,000 false and i want to bring it back and square it away and this is something we'll agree on democrats and republicans that constitution is a foundation of our country, but the bed rock that it sits on is legitimate free and fair elections and the public has to perceive that they're free and fair and there are voices out there to delegitimize this election. you want that to be the case and i want the american people to take -- >> you are being one of those voices right now by saying there is some proof to say that maybe will be rigged. >> there is. >> there is no proof that you can point to that would demonstrate that the outcome of this election could be false. look at the independent vetting that was done. put it up on the screen.
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because of these allegations and what it leads to. 146 million total registered voters. 268 total alleged, alleged cases. how many did they actually find? ten cases reported. how many of these are prosecuted? over a decade. look at that. 38 cases. 13 prosecuted for double voting. over a decade. congressman, i'm making the point to suggest that while you look at these cases, there are 13 cases and ten cases. you see there are some fraud. he's saying the election is going to be stolen from him. do you agree with that? >> chris, i don't want to say anything that on this program that delegitimizes these elections because i don't want people to lose faith in our process. so, i think instead we should look at this and try to clean this up to a degree. because we had a main stream
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media that there's plenty of evidence to point to that they have been tilted in favor of hillary clinton by and large. we have evidence out there that illegals have been voting by the hundreds, if not the thousands. it only took 537 in florida. those are things that do concern me. when i do see that there are allegations that clinton campaign and the clinton foundation and hillary clinton herself are negotiating and the same phone call of quid pro quo with the fbi to declassify e-mails that were already out on her server, those things do concern me and i don't know how we get justice in this country if we end up with another lynch as the attorney general and clinton that has proven for decades that's how they operate. that is what concerns me and i don't think we should have a presidential candidate to try to delegitimize the election as we go to the polls either. >> let's get back to the central premise. you just said i don't want to say anything that will make
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people feel like they should have the confidence in the system undermined. do you accept the idea that donald trump saying that it is already rigged, that the fix is in is unsubstantiated? >> i would not say it's unsubstantiated. i think there's truth to some of the things that he lays out on this. i just don't think it's that constructive to make this the campaign issue. i'd rather see this turned over on budget security -- >> you can say the media is bias against donald trump. knock yourself out. i don't think it changes anybody's minds. but i don't think it is fair -- >> it remains true, however. >> you may think it's true. you're right to that opinion. there is also some validity to him saying the process of our demud democracy is rigged. that's not okay. it's been vetted and, yes, there have been problems. they do not add up that this
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election is going to be stolen from trump and i don't get why you haven't shot that notion down. >> i point to virginia and see where terry mcauliffe legalized tens of thousands of felons that by law can't be allowed to vote in virginia. there's piece after piece of this in this country that say don't follow the law and do lean this thing in the wrong direction. we should look at those and we should abide by the law and we should be squared away with that and make sure that we don't have illegals voting or registered. we should clean up our voter registration lists in this country of the deceased and duplicates and felons and we need to make sure that they're citizens and they should be certified to be citizens. on top of that, we have a senseless situation in america that we count the citizens and the redistricting give representation to illegal aliens in different places across this country. there is much that must be done, but i don't think the center
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part of it is the bias is there because i think people will finally see through that in the end. at least i hope they do. >> nobody is saying the system can't be made better. but the system itself, there's no basis to delegitimize it at this point. congressman steve king, thank you very much for joining us, as always, spirited discussion. alisyn? >> chris, we're just two days until the final debate between donald trump and hillary clinton. we'll look at how they're preparing, next. sureor put themhave ston a rack.e tires. but the specialists at ford like to show off their strengths: 13 name brands. all backed by our low price tire guarantee. yeah, we're strong when it comes to tires.
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both candidates preparing for their final faceoff in vegas wednesday night and donald trump has a special request for hillary clinton. >> i think we should take a drug test prior to the debate. i do. i think we should -- why don't we do that? we should take a drug test because i don't know what's going on with her, but at the beginning of her last debate, she was all pumped up at the beginning. and at the end, it was like, take me down. she could barely reach her car. i think we should take a drug test. anyway, i'm willing to do it. >> what happens if you fail the drug test, by the way. let's say you have amphetamines in your system or a little bit of the roids or liquid gold? do you lose? do you have to withdraw? >> we have someone who has the
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answer, michael smerconish. what is this? what is the request for a drug test? what is the calculus there? >> i'm going to say what chris was thinking and wouldn't say. does he have the big blue pill in his system. >> i was not thinking that. >> you went there. >> he says there's no problem with that. he said there's no problem. he said it to all of america. >> a great piece in "the washington post" this morning that it is all playing to the echo chamber. i had this conversation with alisyn just last week. what is the mathematical article for the way he is approaching this campaign? it has to be if he can squeeze every last white working class voter without a college degree to come out and vote for him somehow that can trump, no pun intended, the outreach that a
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candidate would normally make in trying to expand the tent. >> what does he have to do in this event in your opinion and what do you think he has to do in this debate in his opinion? >> in his opinion, he needs to keep doing exactly what he's doing. he needs to say benghazi about five or seven times. he needs to talk about crooked hillary. he needs to play the hit parade of all the things that he has been saying. that's in his mind in line with what i just said. i am convinced their model is that they can exceed that percentage of the white vote that has been obtained by all republican candidates going back to ronald reagan. yet, she at the same time is i'm sure just desirous of running out the clock. i don't believe it's attributable the lack of events to needing to be behind closed doors preparing for the debate. on the clinton side they're saying, let him continue to be
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out there. >> let's talk about the things that could haunt her at the debate that could come out. that being the wikileaks dump where they did find out that her campaign was worried about these goldman sachs speeches coming to light and one of the things they were worried about when she talked to the wall street crowd they should be held to account for political reasons. instead of for moral reasons. >> wishy-washy on dodd frank. of course, they were paying to be there and now she wants to be president. >> how big of an impablct do yo think those sorts of things will have? >> i have been looking towards the revelation with the eye towards if i were advising trump, what is the smoking gun? what is the 30 or the 60-second commercial that i could run against her specifically and it's very hard to find an item that you can really go after her. i mean, for example, what you just referenced also seems a repeat of her saying, well, a politician needs to have a
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public persona and a private persona. the worst thing i've seen thus far is her embrace of limited circumstances of hemispheric open borders. but look at how many of these e-mails are not even hers. it's podesta, palmieri and people around her. some are from a couple years ago. if there were a smoking gun, i'd be eager to discuss it with you. i just don't see one. >> how about this smoking gun. the idea of saying the media is bias, that's fine. it happens all the time. nobody likes the media. but we just had steve king on. he's a trump supporter. and he backs up trump's suggestion that the election has already been rigged. the result will be ilegitimate. and there is a little bit of a basis for it and i couldn't get him off of it. he said i don't want to undermine people's belief in the system but did that by giving speculation about it being ilegitimate. >> to quote joe biden, he gave
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you a bunch of malarkey. he said, 527 votes separated the final outcome in florida. okay, congressman, but where was the fraud? then he made reference to governor mcauliffe allowig felons the right to vote in virginia by law. where's the beef? here's what they come back to. i get sick and tired of how they reference philadelphia and rudy did it over the weekend. oh, philadelphia is going to be the home of theft. and then when pushed they'll talk about the new black panthers and what happened in 2008. this morning i went back and i looked at the data. there was a polling place where two members, two knuckleheads who should have been prosecuted but everybody in the national media was saying, oh, they're there to intimidate voters. there were 1,535 voters at that division and only 84 of them were republican. my point is, if you wanted to intimidate voters to vote for
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barack obama against john mccain, you need to come out to the lily white suburbs where i live. you wouldn't go to an all black, all democratic polling place because it was already going for obama. >> yeah, i mean, the headlines often suggest something that when you dig into it deeper and go back to the source, you find out that the voter fraud, the claims of voter fraud are wildly exaggerated. >> media, can't trust them. >> michael smerconish, we can trust you. hillary clinton and donald trump and live coverage will begin at 4:00 p.m. eastern. did you hear about this one. a father tells his son about the heroin overdose death of his mother. recording the moment. sharing it with the world. of course, it has gone viral. did the father make the right choice to make it public? why did he do it? next.
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center with a look at the latest campaign cash. >> i see the uglier it gets and the closer it gets to election day the more money flows into this race. the trump campaign hauling in $100 million in september. clinton raising $154 million. both are the highest fototals o this election. they support joint fund-raising committee. not all of it goes directly to the campaign but clinton has a big lead with money in the bank. she had $152 million at the end of last month. trump with $75 million. the question now, will trump throw down more of his own money to catch up? trump did pull in some huge donations from gop mega donors like the casino magnate sheldon edellson, bernie marcus the co-founder of home depot. a much smaller but significant donation came from peter thiel the paypal founder is contributing $1.25 million to trump. you may remember his speech at the republican national convention guys. he's put in a little bit more than a million of his own money into the race. >> all right. thank you very much, christine. appreciate it. we're going to take a turn now. you remember those videos where
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they showed the people overdosed in the car, and it has a public service reminder, and the kids in the back seat. >> from heroin. >> from heroin. look the heroin scourge is underreported, it's underplayed, and it's going to be a big, big problem. now, there's a new one. this father is sitting across from his son and other friends and family members. the kid's 8 years old and he tells this kid that his mother has died of a heroin overdose. on camera. here's a piece. >> mommy died last night. >> what? >> okay. mommy died last night. okay? >> what do you mean, my mom? >> yeah. >> how? >> from drugs. >> all right. look. the pain and the reality are real. there's no reason to debate
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that. the question is, did the father do the right thing? posting that moment on facebook? all right let's discuss it right now. we got ashleigh banfield. she's got a new show prime-time justice with ashleigh banfield premieres on our sister network hln. her show is going to focus on a confessed serial killer but where's your head on this? we all know that we can't do enough to let people know how painful this is. how it affects the people around the addict. what do you think of this? >> if you're not affected by that, i don't know who you are. and if you read the comments, under those postings, i think it was something like 34 million, 35 million people who've seen this, you'll get a really good sense of where people fall. some people are so thrilled that this is breaking through some of the noise about heroin. and other people are devastated that this child was subjected to this. the father says he -- he talked about it with his son, asked the son if it would be okay to post
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it. the son's 8. doesn't matter what kind of conversation you have with an 8-year-old. but at the same time there are a lot of addicts who've been posting saying thank you, thank you so much. this has changed things for me. so it's breaking through. it's making a difference. >> the father himself is something like 100 days clean. so he is also recovering heroin addict. you know, this follows in the steps as chris was alluding to of sheriff's deputies putting out those videos of people in their cars with children in a car seat, just looking blue, asphyxiating from a heroin overdose and is they're going for shock value and i guess the question is we don't know yet if it works. but it's certainly getting everybody's attention and continuing the conversation. >> just in the last ten days a 7-year-old got on a school bus and told the driver i can't wake my parents and when the police got there they were dead, both of them from a heroin overdose. 78 people are dying per day. let's just say that again.
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78 people in this country are dying per day because opiates, overdosing on these kinds of drugs. just in ohio, just last year in ohio, over 3,000 people died from drug overdoses. so that makes them the leading cause of injury related death. not car crashes. just drug overdoses. and i think we're just beginning to, you know, see that this isn't just a story you hear on the news a lot. this is an epidemic. and if it were any other kind of epidemic we would be showing resources like madd at it so maybe this is the kind of thing -- >> there's a big stigma on this. people think it's your choice, that you do it and they don't want to reward that and there's a whole culture around it. but you tell us what you think. tweet us, you facebook us, what do you think about this father's move and the impact on his son and the impact on you. now talk to me about this shawn grate. this picture is gratening because it's exactly what a serial killer uses to their advantage the normalcy that he seems like a normal, clean-cut guy but he is obviously one of
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the worst people. >> the only way you can actually say they're a serial killer when you talk about this man shawn grate is because he's saying it himself. he has not gone to court. there's been nothing that's been litigated with this man yet. but that face, get a good look at that face. does that remind you of a dahmer or a bundy? let me tell you the stories that this guy is telling to reporters, and to police, and to anybody who will listen, they're nothing short of bone shilling. do you remember that call from the woman who was whispering to the police -- >> yeah. >> yeah, saying oh, please come and get me. i am -- this is him! this is him. so that woman who called saying i've been abducted i'm like here next to him, please come and get me. whispering. they came and got her. in that house where she was being held, abandoned house, two more bodies. >> we have a portion of that call. so let's play that for the viewers who might have missed it. listen to this. >> 911 what is the address to your emergency?
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>> that was chilling. >> it gives me the willies. >> so you're examining it in your new show "prime-time justice" that is premiering. so when you look it what else will shock us from this? >> so just the facts alone are just so astounding because again they found two more bodies in that house. and then he started talking. and leading police to three other bodies. >> why? is he saying this compunction or guilty conscience or is he a braggart? >> he's weird. i really can't put my finger on this one. he says he's 50/50 remorseful on it. he says you know some of them are just dead already. they just needed me to kill them. it's really strange. but why he spoke to reporters, and just -- you know, just verbal diarrhea giving all the details about what he did to these women. this is a death penalty state. and the prosecutor has said, in no uncertain terms, he's facing
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the death penalty. yet shawn grate entered a not guilty plea. so in court he said not guilty to the first charges he's charged with. and to reporters he said i did it all and they sort of needed. they sort of needed it. >> oh, my gosh. >> it's really shocking. >> ashleigh we can't wait to catch your show. >> claire underwood. not the real claire underwood. robin wriekt the actress is going to come on the show. justice for women. you'll hear all about it. >> fantastic. can't wait to watch it. thanks so much for previewing it with us. you can watch "prime-time justice" with ashleigh banfield tonight at 8:00 p.m. only on hln. >> the light of justice right behind you there. we're following a lot of news, another turn in the election. let's get to it. remember this, it's a rigged election. >> the disturbing stories keep coming. >> the media collaborates and conspires directly with the clinton campaign. >> donald trump's words don't make me sick anymore. they make me furious.
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>> they made it clear that it was just talk, not actions. >> this is who donald trump really is. >> this is the final battle to drive isis out of iraq. >> the battle to retake mosul now under way. >> well over 1 million civilians still remain. they are expecting the worst. >> this is "new day." >> we do have all of that breaking news we will get to. good morning welcome to your "new day" up first donald trump stepping up his claim that the election is rigged. he does not offer any evidence other than that the media is reporting on sexual assault allegations against him, and conspiring with hillary clinton's campaign he says. what will this mean for the election's process? >> questions also about trump's intentions as once again his running mate tries to clean it up. governor mike pence says he will, quote, absolutely accept the result of the election. so what's going on? we also have a new poll from cnn this morning. this is aol
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