tougher on trade even then. i've been waiting for years. nobody does it right. frankly, now we're going to do it right. >> the one last area i want to get into with you in the debate is the fact that the biggest driver of our debt is entitlements, which is 60% of all federal spending. the committee for a responsible federal budget has looked at both of your plans. they say neither of you has a serious plan that is going to solve the fact that medicare is going to run out of money in the 2020s, social security is going to run out of money in the 2030s, and at that time, recipients are going to take huge cuts in their benefits. in fact, the final question i want to ask you in this regard is -- and let me start with you, mr. trump. would president trump make a deal to save medicare and social security that included both tax increases and benefit cuts in effect a grand bargain on entitlements? >> i'm cutting taxes. we're going to grow the economy. it's going to grow in a record

rate. >> that's not going to help with entitlements. >> it is going to help. what we have to do is repeal and replace the disaster known as obamacare. it's destroying our country. it's destroying our businesses, our small business and our big businesses. we have to repeal and replace obamacare. you take a look at the kind of numbers that that will cost us in the year 17. it is a disaster if we don't repeal and replace. it is probably going to die of its own weight, but obamacare has to go. the premiums are going up 60%, 70%, 80%. next year they're going to go up over 100%. at least the people see what's happening because she wants to keep obamacare and she wants to make it even worse and it can't get any worse. bad health care at the most expensive price. we have to repeal and replace obamacare. >> secretary clinton, same question because at this point social security and medicare are going to run out -- the trust

funds are going to run out of money. will you, as president, consider a grand bargain, a deal that includes both tax increases and benefit cuts to try to save both programs? >> well, chris, i am record as saying we need to put more money into social security trust fund. that's part of my commitment to raise taxes on the wealthy. my social security payroll contribution will go up as will donald's assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it, but what we want to do is -- >> such a nasty woman. >> -- replenish the trust fund by making sure we have sufficient resources, and that will come from either raising the cap and/or finding other ways to get more money into it. i will not cut benefits. i want to enhance benefits for low-income workers and for women who have been disadvantaged by the current social security system. but what donald is proposing with these massive tax cuts will

result in a $20 trillion additional national debt. that will have dire consequences for social security and medicare. and i'll say something about the affordable care act, which he wants to repeal. the affordable care act extended the solvency of the medicare trust fund. if he repeals it, our medicare problem gets worse. >> your husband disagrees with you. >> we've got to get costs down, increase value, emphasize wellness. i have a plan for doing that, and i think that we will be able to get entitlement spending under control but with more resources and smart decisions. >> this is a final time that you're going to be on the stage together in this campaign. i would like to end it on a positive note. you had not agreed to closing statements, but it seems to me in a funny way that might make it more interesting because you can't prepared closing statements. i would for each of you to take -- and we're going to put a

clock up -- a minute to tell the american people why they should elect you to be the next president. this is another new mini segment. secretary clinton, it's your turn to go first. >> i would like to say to everyone watching tonight that i'm reaching out to all americans, democrats, republicans, and independents because we need everybody to help make our country what it should be, to grow the economy, to make it fairer, to make it work for everyone. we need your talents, your skills, your commitment, your energy, your ambition. i've been privileged to see the presidency up close, and i know the awesome responsibility of protecting our country and the incredible opportunity of working to try to make life better for all of you. i have made the cause of children and families really my life's work. that's what my mission will be in the presidency. i will stand up for families against powerful interests, against corporations.

i will do everything that i can to make sure that you have good jobs with rising incomes, that your kids have good educations from preschool through college. i hope you will give me a chance to serve as your president. >> secretary clinton, thank you. >> mr. trump? >> she's raising the money from the people she wants to control. doesn't work that way. but when i started this campaign, i started it very strongly. it's called make america great again. we're going to make america great. we have a depleted military. it has to be helped. it has to be fixed. we don't take care of our veterans. we take care of illegal immigrants. our policemen and women are disrespected. we need law and order, but we need justice too. our inner cities are a disaster. you get shot walking to the store. they have no education. they have no jobs.

i'll do more for african-americans and latinos that she can do for a lifetime. all she's done is talk to latinos and african-americans. we are going to make america great again and it has to start now. we cannot take four more years of barack obama, and that's what you get when you get her. >> thank you both. secretary clinton -- [ applause ] >> hold on just a moment, folks. i want to thank you both for participating in all three of these debates. we want to thank the university of nevada las vegas and its students for having us. now the decision is up to you. while millions have already voted, election day, november 8th, is just 20 days away. one thing everyone here can agree on is we hope you will go vote. it is one of the honors and obligations of living in this great country.

thank you and good night. [ applause ] >> all right. let's see if they go ahead and shake hands with each other. looks like she's walking over to the moderator, chris wallace, shaking his hand. let's see if they go ahead and shake hands right now. not necessarily going to happen. a very, very contentious debate. some of the most important issues facing the country right now, but jake tapper, clearly the headline, donald trump saying he may not accept the result of this presidential election. >> one of the most stunning things i've ever heard in a presidential debate ever. and while i think it's fair to say he had some decent moments in there, especially when he was criticizing obama and clinton on foreign policy, the big hurdle for donald trump was will he show the country that he has the temperament, that he has what it takes, that he has the fitness to be president. to suggest that he might not

accept the results of the election that we're about to hold in fewer than three weeks was staggering, and i don't think it helped him when it comes to showing the american people that he does have that temperament. the one thing i was looking for in this debate is would he do anything to turn around the momentum. all the college educated whites that are going to hillary clinton, all the women that are going to hillary clinton, all the minorities that are going to hillary clinton. no. i don't think he did anything to turn that around. yes, he had some good moments, especially when it came to criticisms of her and her policies and president obama's policies. but to suggest that he is not going to necessarily accept the results of the nomination, that was a disastrous answer. >> it was truly extraordinary. dana bash, his vice presidential running mate said they would of course accept the result, the voice of the american people. his daughter said the same thing. he refused to say that. he said i want to keep you in

suspen suspense. >> not only did his running mate say that, he said that to us in the debate hall an hour before donald trump took the stage, so it really goes to show that donald trump, no matter how much he prepared -- and we do understand he prepared very well. for the most part, i agree with you, jake. for the most part during this debate, that came through. he was a much more disciplined donald trump. at the end of the day before that comment happened, it looked like it was a wash, that she did well, that he did well. it wasn't clear if anybody was going to benefit or not until that moment when he was asked something very basic, something that my understanding is that he was certainly prepared for and he didn't answer it affirmatively. and more importantly, she was prepared for it. she had all of her opposition research ready to go about the times where he called other systems rigged, even the emmys when he didn't win an emmy.

wolf? >> she clearly was ready for that. john king, did either one of them move the needle tonight? >> not in a significant way i don't think. hillary clinton has a significant advantage in our electoral map. we have her 307. donald trump in the 170s. well short of the 270 you need to win. did he have the biggest audience they're going to get before election day? he needs to bend steel to change this election. we have taken utah away from him and arizona to make them toss up states. at the top of the debate, very base driven to the republicans. it is possible he boosted his support among republicans with those answers. to the point jake and dana are making, in new hampshire and ohio and california, oh, my god, they were not that polite when donald trump refused to say he

would accept the results of the election. he does not have a gut that middle america wants him to respect the process. >> chris wallace asked donald trump about the allegations of sexual assaults and sexual attention that was not wanted and put a tough question to hillary clinton about he says what your husband bill clinton has done is even worse. donald trump attacked the women that have accused him, suggested that they were liars and put up to it by the clinton campaign. hillary clinton very passionate speech that was speaking to all women. all women know what it is like to be belittled like this. completely dodged the question about bill clinton. back to trump, he's defending himself again. he's not even pointing out that hillary clinton, who gave this very passionate speech with this really uncomfortable asterisks there, which is how can you say this when these allegations have

been made against your husband, and he just whiffed it. he let it go because he is so focused on defending himself. he couldn't even see clearly then to prosecute on hillary clinton on what i thought was possibly her strongest moment. >> he wshe was under his skin a little bit. slowly she methodically kept coming back. if we noticed in the past debates and republican debates, there were certain things that set him off. >> another moment that -- i'm sorry, wolf. one last moment. one moment that i thought was very bad came at the end. i think a lot of women probably noticed it is when she was answering a question. it was all within the confines of this very contentious debate. all of a sudden she said, she's a nasty woman. she's a nasty woman. they've been going after each other in a very contentious way,

but that was a very personal attack. i think this debate ultimately is going to hurt him with women voters. >> reinforces a weakness. >> a very contentious debate. dana bash, you have kellyanne conway. >> is donald trump saying the opposite of what you and his daughter have said in the past 24 hours about whether or not he will accept the results of this election? are you disappointed in his answer? >> i'm not disappointed in a thing to want. i thought it was an amazing debate. donald trump will accept the results of the election because he's going to win the election. he won the debate tonight. amazing performance. getting back to all those core issues that really catapulted his campaign from the beginning, jobs, trade, immigration, the failed foreign policy. >> you just told me he will accept the results. why wouldn't he say that on the

debate stage? >> do you remember 2000 when al gore contested the election? >> that's an extraordinary experience. >> we have extraordinary experiences. he was talking about a corrupt system. many americans agree with that. he's talking about a system where people feel like insiders, like hillary clinton, get all the benefits on top of the fact many in the media collude with them. 90% of donations from working journalists went to hillary clinton. >> i want to put a button on this. >> i heard a lot. >> what you just said to me is that he will accept. what you're telling me is that on election night if he is sort of waffling, you as his campaign manager will say, mr. trump, no matter what it is, this is what is going to happen and you're going to accept these results. >> absent of widespread abuse

and regularities, yes. but i also think he will be president. >> back to you, anderson. >> dana, thanks very much. we'll see who else comes into the spin room. aptly named indeed. >> watching kellyanne walk away reminds me of a bad debate i once was involved in. the worst thing is going into the spin room and try to persuade people the disaster they just watched is a triumph. this was a disaster for donald trump. i was going to apologize to jeffrey because i was going to say he could surprise us and i was surprised because temperamentally as the debate began, i thought he took a different approach.

he talked about issues that will go to his base, but he was compo composed. he wasn't interrupting. hillary clinton just pushed his buttons. by the end of the debate, he just unravelled, but he wrote the lead of the story. he wrote the lead of the story. >> let's play that moment that everyone's talking about. >> one of the prides of this country is the peaceful transition of power and that no matter how hard fought a campaign is that at the end of the campaign that the loser concedes to the winner. not saying you're necessarily going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. are you saying you're not prepared now to commit to that principle? >> what i'm saying is i'll tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense, okay? >> well, chris -- >> and that was the moment. >> mike pence assured the nation

in no uncertain terms that they would accept the result of this election. others went on television, including kellyanne, saying they'll accept the verdict of the voters. anderson, this is core for a lot of americans. you say what makes america great. this is what makes america great. the fact that he wasn't willing to say i'll accept the results of this election i thought that's going to haunt him not just through this campaign, but for a long time. >> keeping you in suspense makes it sound like this is some sort of a game or a reality tv show. i don't want to be kept in suspen suspense. i think it's very difficult. i've never heard any candidate ever in a presidential debate, correct me if i'm wrong, but i don't think any of us is old enough to have ever heard it to say to the american public i won't necessarily accept the

result. it is stunning to me and potentially disqualifying to me, honestly, jeffrey. >> we clearly saw two entirely different debates. >> i guess so. >> what about that moment in particular? >> i am looking. december 13th, 2000. december 13th, not the night of the election, not the next day. al gore -- here this is what the problem is. this is when i talk about the ruling class and elites and double standards. there was one standard for al gore. al gore said he would accept the process. a month late he took it all the way to the supreme court. >> he did because the state -- >> no, let him finish. >> no, gloria. he did it because he feels like a privileged insider and his pals felt like privileged insiders. this is permeates the entire system and this is what's wrong.

>> florida had an automatic recount because the laws of the state of florida called for that. and because the election was so close -- and don't forget al gore won the popular vote by half a million, but we won't talk about that because this is about electoral college. because the state of florida said automatic recount, al gore said yes. then there were 36 days in which the country was very patient, but that is very different -- >> what does florida have to do with it? the election was over election night. >> the 50 states did not certify these winners and the election was not over. once the election was certified in florida, once the court spoke and the election was certified, al gore stood in front of the camera -- >> you're illustrating the problem. >> it's a different problem. >> no, it is. >> al gore did not go on the debate stage and say, i'm not sure i'm going to accept the e

election results. >> he said he >> this is a really sad night. this is a very sad night for the country. you can't polish this turd. >> technically, you cannot polish my turd. >> i'm going to be very, very clear about this. al gore respected the constitution, respected the process, respected every voter. went to our supreme court, asked for a resolution on his own terms as his george w. bush. and when the election results were certified, he told his party and base to stand down and accept this. even though a lot of us were very, very upset. what you just got now was the nominee of a major party for the first time in our history signaling to the american people that he has so little faith in our institutions and so little faith in our people and so little faith in our courts and so little faith in the republican governors, the

republican secretaries of state across this country that he will not stand in front of his own country, in front of his own nation and say that he respects the process and the outcome. that is an outrage. the appalling lack of patriotism from this man. >> let him finish. >> the appalling lack of patriotism of this man to say this and praise putin and asaad more than he's praised any american president. he doesn't luke about george washington, ronald reagan the way he talks about putin and asaad. he has an appalling lack of patriotism. >> you're asking him to accept something that hasn't happened yet. none of us know what is going to happen on tuesday, november 8th. and in fact, i'm going to jay christian adams, a voter's attorney for the department of justice, said that there are as many as 4 million people registered to vote right now. there is voting fraud out there. >> that's not voting fraud.

>> well, 4 million people, dead people vote? >> no. they don't vote. >> they're not voting. they're dead. you're making that up. >> but they're listed. >> they just died. >> and we have a video. i hope voters -- >> they just died. nobody has removed them yet. >> i know you like to yell over me. there's a video that came out two days ago, democratic operatives hired by the dnc talking about bussing people in to vote under dead people's names, people who haven't showed up to vote, taking them to different voting places. you can see it. >> in my state of pennsylvania in jeffrey's state of pennsylvania, we litigated this issue for a full year because the legislature passed and the governor signed into saw a requirement that says you've got to show a photo i.d. in a year of litigation, literally not one single case of

in person voter fraud could be documented. it's a total -- >> i want to say something. >> if i can just finish my thought. i think your man was having the best debate night he had of all of them. >> one line -- >> now i'd like to finish. with two glaring exceptions. the first that we're all noting here where we just won't accept the result. he easily could have said but for the most unusual of circumstances, of course i'll accept the outcome, and let's not underestimate the significance of the end. he is desperately behind among college educated females, and he looked at one and said what a nasty woman. >> you got state department people saying it. >> it's upsetting to my friends on the left that donald trump had an incredible night. he used her experience against

her. he said you've had 30 years. you talk about wanting to do great things. and we focus on the most negative thing we can find from donald trump. >> he made history. one at a time let her finish. >> donald trump had a great night. it was vintage donald trump. >> he made history tonight. i agree with you on that. >> i know that's what you want to focus on and i get that. >> patty, is this the right wrong to focus on? >> i think the first 35 minutes he had a great night. we were talking about the issues. i think chris wallace did a fantastic jo fantastic job. he asked tough questions of both of them, and donald trump had a decent 40 minutes, but then, yes, this line is a deal breaker. it is an un-american line. it is anti-democratic. it goes against our democracy. it goes against our two party system and what we believe in and stand for.

yes, it's a disqualifier. >> i also think that he was sort of no, no, no on accepting the outcome of the election. he refuses to accept the intelligence on russia for some reason. >> are they the same intelligence people that -- >> for some he refuses to accept the intelligence on russia. he says he didn't even apologize to his wife on the women issues because -- >> that was a weird moment. >> it was not true. >> she just gave a big interview saying he apologized to her. >> everything laid out in front of him, he deflected or said wasn't true or, you know, i'm just not going to accept it when it comes to the election, and then said he never -- he wouldn't apologize on the women because he never did it. so it is a donald trump we have seen. and the outcome of the election is clearly the sort of key and

most important moment here. but on russia also, i was sort of surprised. i know you weren't, but this has been, you know, u.s. intelligence more than a dozen agencies have talked about this. i don't even understand why donald trump wouldn't allow for the possibility that actually the hack -- >> because the american people have been burned with intelligence agencies telling a republican president of the united states that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. >> you'll never accept intelligence anymore? >> i am simply saying they're not infallible. >> we know that, but at least accept that it's a possibility. >> donald trump is lucky to have committed supporters like you under any circumstance they will say he had a good night. but there's objective evidence. you guys said this every debate, and in each debate then there's polling and -- >> he had an especially good night then. >> things followed he didn't

have such a good night and he's lost ground consistently since the first debate, and this was the worst -- he started off great. >> he did. >> this was the worst of the three. this was a devastating night for him. >> does it seem to you at all that he can do a good 40 minutes and then start to go -- >> yes. >> down rabbit holes that she throws out at him. she starts with the your father gave you $14 million, you know, wrong, and then things like that. and it does -- does it not seem to fluster him somewhat? >> i don't think so. >> really? >> no. seriously. i don't think that. it seems to me that we -- one of the moments here, i want to get to this here for a second. she danced away from it. when he said will you give that money back. she refused to do it. he danced around. she danced around. what i'm saying is that goes to the core of the argument that she is duplicitous and takes the

money and uses it for personal purposes. she doesn't care where it comes from. people who throw gays off roofs and will women? give the money back. >> wasn't her he response that 90% of all money donated is used for causes? >> that was after she -- that was after she was caught with when only 10% of it was actually going to charitable causes and she was put on a charity watch list and remanipulated it. >> check fact that. i hope we fact check that. that's been debunked. >> i agree in the first debate we went into the weeds too much. he was too defensive on certain issues. he did that a little tonight, but he's gotten really good at turning it around to offense. it's incredible to me to hear people say it's disqualifying that he wants to wait to see what happens tuesday, november 8th before he accepts the election. and it's not disqualifying to

destroy 33,000 e-mails or batak bla hammers to blackberry. you can run for president when four star generals are sitting in jail for telling one lie to the fbi? it's a a double standard. >> there's a mythology, that he did well at the beginning. we often go on temperament. we lowered the standards for the presidency. if you're not a toddler, when you're prepared to be the president of the united states. i'm going to have to go back to old school hip hop and quote ll cool j. in his first album and say he lied about the lies that he lied about. listen, the entire time you're saying he's doing well, he says he never said that he wanted japan to have nukes. that's a lie. he said he's never claimed to know putin. that's a lie. he said he never said women

weren't pretty enough for him to harass. that's a lie. he said he never harassed disabled people. that's a lie. let's keep the record clear here. >> he did not mock a disabled person. >> oh, come on. >> wait. wait. did you? did you see in the same speech where he mocked the general and mocked ted cruz doing the same thing? >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> that's the point. this is the point. there's a video where he does the same thing mocking other people who are not disabled. >> but he said in that instance y , i know him, he said have you seen this guy and mocked the way he appears because he has a disability. listen, i think this debate, he gets the most improved award, but that doesn't get him much in terms of expanding his base. i did think he was much more disciplined. he was calmer. he didn't take the bait all the time. i thought both of them were incredibly weak on jobs. none of them really, i think,

channelled the anger and the pain that folks are feeling in terms of their own lives. hillary clinton basically did a laundry list of what her plan would be. he seemed to pivot to nato in that question. but i think it is true that he seems to lose stamina as these debates go on. he seems to sort of remember slights. i mean, in that answer where he said such a nasty woman about hillary clinton, i think she was talking about entitlement reform at some point. it was like this thing he couldn't control. he just had to say it. it was such an odd moment. >> i agree. it's also puppet moment where they're talking about putin and the question was do you condemn, and he said of course i condemn, but it didn't continue. they were getting into it over putin, and she called him a puppet. and he said no, you're the puppet. again, i hate to raise my children, but that's the kind of

thing my kids used to do. >> the situation with russia, she's been the secretary of state. she reset the whole thing. president obama, i mean, this is their policy. here we are. >> it would have been more reassuring if he were willing to actually condemn vladimir putin for the tyrant that he is, which he just -- every time he gets an opportunity to do it, he instead goes to wouldn't it be better if we had a better relationship with russia? >> david, david, president obama is dealing with a tyrant in cuba and he's opened relationships on that same premise. wouldn't it be better to have a better relationship with castro who is one nasty tyrant? >> if i can say, so many of his answers tonight i thought were measured and controlled. he has a better understanding of the clock than he ever has thus far, but he just can't help himself, and the interruptions had me wondering is it 11:00 on

a saturday night. it was straight from alec baldwin and his immitaion. he needed a knockout. no he didn't get it. even if you want to think he had a great night, and some aspects were, but he didn't win. >> you guys are ace supporters and spokes people, and -- but the question is what about the voters he needs to add to the base that he has to win this election? were they as impressed as you? my sense is they will not be. we'll see what the polls say and the coming days. >> david, here's what i think was important about tonight. hillary was pressed hard by chris wallace on the economy. what is different about your plan than obama's? she didn't have an answer, and a lot of us sat back when obama took office and said he's blaming bush for the economy. fair enough right now. how long will it last? tonight she said he inherited something bad. we're still blaming bush. meanwhile trump has ideas.

that moves voters. >> by the way, there's bill clinton and hillary clinton departing. >> the economy shrunk by 8.9% and we were losing jobs the day he moved into the door. >> seeds planted by bill clinton's housing policy. >> now you're blaming clinton. listen, sometimes numbers and facts, again, i'm a little bit of a nerd, but i think numbers are helpful. 1 .3 jobs created under bush. 10.6 million jobs you should obama. >> the great thing about that is it was the time when the western democracies were growing. when you look at our growth rate, guess what, europe below 1%. japan 0. we are actually beating our

peers. you can't admit that so you compare us to china and india which are growing more, but from a lower base. again, you have to do funny numbers and fuzzy math. under obama we've been beating our competition, and our economy right now is 10% bigger and richer than that was at the height of the post recession peak. those are real numbers. >> real numbers that barack obama is about to become the first president in fact united states history to not attain 3.5% gdp. people are hurting. >> and we beat every other country in the world that is an advanced industrial country. >> the one stat that stuck out in this election, 56% people feel the economy is rigged against hem. rig second down an important word. by using that word he feels like the deck is stacked against him. >> bernie sanders used that word.

>> he did. >> and you know what? a lot of people feel the economy is rigged, and you know what? they're right, but most people don't feel that the american system of voting is so rigged that someone who has won his party's nomination can't stick up for it. stick up for the democracy every time. it's a disgrace what he did. >> when trump was asked about the economy, this is the one area where he has an advantage and a lot of advantage in polling. lots of people believe he's best able to handle the economy. she talked about her tax plan, et cetera. when he was asked about it, he went to trade, started talking about trade, and never really until the end of his answer got back to what he would do for the american people. he started talking about her on tpp and -- i think it was a huge missed opportunity for him, because it's one area where he actually does well, and he could have gotten more specific with people about how he is going to

help them in their personal lives beyond trade. i know trade is a very big issue. i know it's really important, but taxes are a big issue. and what he's going to do to improve gdp, et cetera. so i think he wasn't focussed on an answer that -- on a question that could have been terrific for him. i really do. >> you cite the poll that says 60% think the economy is rigged. i believe the biggest single issue facing us is how you guarantee that people who work hard can get ahead. how you give them the best chance to get ahead in the changing economy. i think that's a real issue. but if you're going to cite the polls, you have to accept the rest of the polls which is that 60 % don't think he has the temperament to be president. 60 % on a series of measures of presidential preparedness don't feel he's qualified. so that was what he had to work on tonight. if he wants to get from point a

to point b, that's what he had to do tonight. >> one line, you've got the experience, and it's bad experience. >> that is a great line, and the 30-year argument is a good argument. but that is not a 90 minute debate, and given what else he's said it's like the old thing about how is the play otherwise mrs. linkcoln. >> she had a great answer. i was in arkansas and you were being sued for housing discrimination. i thought that refrain, she was clearly ready for that. >> i'm sure that was right off the top of her head. >> i think there a535 people ha issue on their hands, and i think of the senate and republican candidates for the house of representatives, people like pat toomey have danced in terms of are you for or against this guy, and they're going to

be asked the question now when donald trump is unwilling to say he'll accept the outcome of the election, what about you? >> and they're going to say i'll say the same thing that i said when al gore -- >> i don't think so. >> and therein lies the problem with washington and that's it. that is it. >> it's one thing we haven't talked about and we need to. for the first time donald trump used spanish. he spoke a spanish word. only to insult and smear and stereo type latino immigrants. he said we have some bad ombrés. the only time he's used spanish in the election was used to smear latino immigrants. i thought that was horrible. if you look at twitter, that will be another reason the republican party will have a different time being a party for all the time. >> politically correct. >> this is nonsense.

>> go ahead. >> let me finish my point. he was not talking about -- let's put context here instead of bringing two words. a woman lost her son at the hand of an illegal immigrant. he would still be here today if the laws were enforced. >> it's a tragedy -- >> a bad man? whatever you want to call that man, it wasn't all immigrants. that's where context is important. he was talking about the immigrants who woman into the country, they're a minority, yes, 100%, they're a small number. there are people who would still be alive today if laws were enforced. no one should die at the hands of an illegal immigrant. >> no one should die at the hands of anyone. >> unless they're a baby. >> oh, come on. >> there's something wrong when you take funerals and you politicize funerals. i've gone to plenty of them.

i've seen people killed by police. i've seen people killed by -- african american kids killed by other african american kids. i've seen latino kids killed by other latino kids. i've seen people killed by people with papers and without papers. when you cherry pick and choose these ones to beat up a whole community, that is disgusting and wrong, and people understand what you're doing. it's not right. >> again, just for those who maybe didn't see it. let's play the moment, the moment that's gotten a lot of coverage online. >> we're going to secure the border and once the border is secured at a later date we'll make a determination as to the rest. we have some bad ombrés here and we're going to get them out. >> what was your reaction? >> this is not politicizing someone's death. this is really important here. if we want to talk about picking and choosing which deaths to

care about, president obama cared about certain men who died at the hands of police officers. your idea about politicizing deaths, i assume it applies to your own president. donald trump cares about the fact that kids in new hampshire have died of heroin that's been brought here by illegal immigrants. >> kayleigh, my father emigrated here from mexico illegally twice. was deported twice. came back the third time legally. to me, i was born here. i'm an american citizen. to me, that was very offensive. you heard me when we were watching it in the green room. that was just offensive. it's offensive to hispanics. >> to say what? >> bad ombré. >> come on yarks patty, you're an american. i've heard that phrase all my life. >> where do you hear that phrase? >> no. this line has been an american zblsh where? >> american television westerns in the 1950s. >> 1950s.

>> by the way, i'm not sure a 19 50 s american television is the best benchmark for what is good language and nonoffensive. >> i have never heard that compared to say the n-word. right? right? this is politically correctness to a max. >> why didn't he just say bad dudes? >> because there are dudes that would be offended. >> why use spanish in that instance? >> what's wrong with it? >> why do you think he did it, then? >> because it's in the american language. >> no one says that, jeffrey. >> you don't know enough people. >> donald trump has defended the language he uses and says about women. i don't say things like that. that's not what i do. well, tonight, patty was very offended, and -- >> patty, i love her to death, but she's being politically

correct. >> if she's offended, i'm offended. >> i can't believe what i'm hearing. >> i'm sorry. >> we're in such a high offense culture that when you call someone who killed american citizens bad ombrés and we critique the language, this is such a high offense culture. this is why donald trump won this nomination because americans around this country are fed up. >> and it's why he's going to win the presidency most likely. >> here's the deal. this is not about being a high offense country. i agree with you, there are some people who aggrieved and no matter what you do -- i'm in meetings with them all the time, trust me. i get what you're talking about. this is not that. this is something else. this is a sense that we've not yet heard him say very many positive things about the contribution of the latino immigrant community. >> he has. we just don't play it. >> let him finish. >> he doesn't trumpet it. he had an opportunity to say

nice things tonight. he could have said, listen, we got some bad ones but let me tell you about the ones making a difference and a contribution. like george w. bush used to do. he didn't do that, and then to put the cherry on top, he then says there are some bad ombrés which sounds to people for whom -- >> politically correct. >> no. >> it's offensive, jeffrey, period, end of story. it's offensive. >> let's stop talking about it. >> he praised the contributions of the mexican american community. he's done it. there are some bad ones and we never get to the root of the problem because we're all upset about the term? >> let's stop talking about how offensive it is. he was supposed to broaden his base tonight. he was supposed to expand his voters today, right? >> yes, of course. >> he offended hispanics.

>> no. >> he offended women. he offended other minorities. how did he expand his base tonight? how is he going to win the presidency? >> this is exactly the point, patty. you divide by race. van and i have had this conversation that when you divide by race like this and think of people as nonamericans, not americans, but by their nationality, am i supposed to take offense? >> but jeffrey, her question -- >> i'm not. >> her question was more what new groups did he reach out to and get tonight? did he? >> sure. sure. people who are sick of this nonsense. >> what people are you talking about? >> to think this is limited to any particular group or age is crazy. they're all americans and human beings. they all have different views. they are individuals. >> i'm just wondering if tonight -- i feel like those people he's probably already

gotten. is there anyone new he reached tonight? >> i have an idea, i think when donald trump goes into private life, which he'll be doing soon, he should take out a patent on a self-kicking machine. that's his brand now. he had a complete opportunity tonight to go out there and repair some damage with constituencies and show he gets it. the thing is, you don't get to determine which what offends me. i don't get to determine what offends you. >> that's what you guys are going. you're determining the whole entire community is -- >> i'm only looking at twitter. >> well, twitter is not much -- >> that's scientific sample right there. >> let's watch tomorrow. my point is if i say something to you that you find offensive, it's my job to listen to you and figure out in the name of civility, so we used to call it civility. the basis of civilization. it became politically correct when other people started to demand civil treatment. if you say it offended you, it's

my job to listen to you and try to do a better job next time. the problem right now is there's a certain set of people who say you telling me that you're offended means you're the problem. not me. not my speech. your response to my speech, and we'll never have a country that way. >> or if you tell me that i might lose, it's not my fault. it's not because i failed. it's because the election was rigged. i think it's sort of the same line of reason. i don't want to change the subject, but on the failed election issue and the question of legitimacy, lindsey graham, no fan of donald trump, i get it, tweet first down he loses, it's because he failed. this is a senator, member of congress to michael's good point before, there are members of congress who watch this and who are up for reelection, and what if i spoke with a house member the other day who said to me what if i win in my state and

donald trump loses? and challenges the election? what does that do to me and my election? are my voters disenfranchised? are my votes inot legitimate? donald trump is about donald trump, not about the republican party, and i think that's what this is about. >> this is a good issue. two points. number one to my friend michael, i sent you an article in the new york times about a federal judge in philadelphia overruling a pennsylvania state senate election and throwing a democratic out of the state senate giving control of the senate to republicans because he said the democrats stole the election and they used a dead person's vote among many others to accomplish it. this is a problem. i've been reading tonight about a princeton professor who does a study about how easy it is to hack voting machines saying there is a problem. will we recognize the problem.

>> is this anecdotal at this point or is it a huge -- >> i think when you've got all these people and cbs and all these other places, reputable institutions saying these elections can be stolen in essence, we have a huge problem, we shouldn't be trusting computers, then there's a problem, yes. yes. >> you said you don't want people divided by race. let me say one thing and then i want to make a larger point. one is i know patty and i've known her since he was a young woman -- >> she still is -- >> she has -- she is one of the most inspiring person i know. she has a wonderful story, and when she tells me she's offended, i take that seriously. i don't say who are you to say whether or not hispanics were -- kayleigh said that to her. here's the thing. let's not talk about hispanics, blacks. i think americans were offended

by what donald trump said about not accepting the result of the election. americans. black, white, hispanic. >> how many were offended when al gore did it? >> jeffrey -- >> sorry. >> you rail against washington, but you are a political consultant answers. i say that as a self-loathing political consultant. that's nonsense. >> it is not nonsense. >> the election was not settled. there was a dispute about that. as was said before, if he had said tonight, look, absent some extraordinary event like a dispute, of course i'll accept the results. it didn't trouble his campaign manager to say it. why does it trouble him to say it? why? >> if there's a divide when it's all over between the electoral college and the popular vote, no one will question mr. trump for pursuing to get to the bottom of the result, but here we are at a

stage when he's trailing by double digits in national polls and the swing states have shifted away from him, and at this moment he's saying he thinks the whole thing is rigged against him and then tries to conflate media bias with the rigging of an election. >> they're not different in terms of disarming an election. the old soviet union only ran -- >> whether there's bias in the media and election fraud are two separate issues. >> it's about when you become president and you're a leader, you accept responsibility for everything that happens on your watch. >> like i didn't have sex with that woman. >> i'm just saying this is a role of a leader. this is what leaders ought to do, accept responsibility. part of the responsibility of being a leader is if you don't succeed and you lose, you accept responsibility for the loss. if you win, good for you. you did a great job.

>> i just have to say, rush limb baa said this, and it's true. no matter what station you turn on, everybody is operating that donald trump is going to lose. there's a poll where he's four points behind. 23 days ago the momentum was going in donald trump's direction. we have 19 more days. none of us know what's coming in the wikileaks or where we're going to be 20 days from now. i think we shouldn't operate under the premise that he's going to lose and that he's not going to accept the result. he said maybe, he'll look at what happens. none of us know what's going to happen. >> there's another point here. >> i've been involved in campaigns for a long time and presidential campaigns for a long time. no one has in modern history recovered from a deficit like this. >> truman. >> tonight was his opportunity

to try to turn that around, and he's just dug himself into a bigger hole. and the arguments you're making is also digging him into a deeper hole. >> no one in modern history has a primary spending half of what others are. >> i admire your commitment. i'm telling you the facts. >> i want to make a fact here. on the supreme court, there are two views. when you're saying donald trump doesn't -- is not accepting of tradition, et cetera, et cetera -- >> responsibility. >> in terms of conceding an election, there were people who believe that there are a lot of people like hillary clinton who believe that the constitution is to be ponied around with here to fit whatever is their latest objective instead of accepting what is in the constitution and the basic freedoms for all of us. that is a slow fashion motion

here using the constitution. >> what does that have to do -- >> the fact that you don't get that, that's what it has to do with. >> jeffrey, i think you're not hearing what i was saying. i was saying if you lose you accept responsibility. if you win, good for you. you take the credit for it. period. >> you guys have a point to make. >> you guys have a point to make here. republicans could be excused for feeling that there's a double standard when it comes to sexual conduct. bill clinton versus donald trump. they can be excused for saying that. >> in a lot of areas. >> i'm trying to help you here, but you have to give me a little bit of room. the idea of there being media bias, of there being a double standard, i think you have a case to make. the problem is when you overshoot your skis the way that you do, and you say that this media bias, this particular thing, then gives you a rigged

election, but you didn't have the same critique of the media when donald trump is winning the primaries one after the other. then the media is fine. you don't have a critique when republicans are winning the senate. no critique when they win the house or 30 plus governorships. it's only a concern when it affects your guy in the last hour. and that is hypocritical. >> a lot of us were critiquing it in the primaries as well. the media is at its lowest trust. >> i'm giving the bias argument, but when you undermine voting institutions, the media has been a mess. the american media system used to be partisan. every party had its own newspaper. people had fliers. then you wound up with this sort of forced thing, it was fake from the beginning. now it's getting crazy again. you have social media.

>> it's good. >> and i have no problem with it. >> twitter. >> i'll be tweeting at the commercial break if we ever have one. >> at this rate, we're not. >> the problem that i have is that when -- you love the polls when the polls are going your way. they don't go his way, i don't believe the polls. >> donald trump has even admitted that in his speech. in a speech he said i quote the polls when they go my way. i don't when they don't. >> my point is this. if you love the media when it's with you and hate it when it's against you, you're many things. you're not presidential. and that's the point. this is about who is going to be the president of the united states. i've got a 12-year-old son that has a much better attitude toward competition than the one running for president in your party. >> can i just make one point? i want to explain why what

donald trump said tonight about the election disturbs me and what has disturbed me over the last few weeks. i think it is insidious to tell your supporters that if you're not going to win that the result is rigged, the result is fixed, sort of intimate that anything goes if you don't win. that is not american. that is not -- >> tell it to al gore. >> oh, not al gore. >> jeffrey, don't do that. it is beneath you. >> i am sorry. but this was done. >> al gore, believe me, as van said, there were many, many people in this country who wanted him to fight on. >> i was one of them. >> and he said i think it's best for the country to accept the result. he was a hero in that instance. >> and what al gore was on his way to concede when the secretary of state, it was under 1%. the secretary of state said this is an automatic recount. he had already called bush,

because he was going to do the right thing. when there was a recount, only after they knew that it was an automatic recount did he call bush and say, no, we have to wait. >> one standard for me and another for you. >> jeffrey, you the student of history, what troubles me the most about what he said and what he didn't say tonight is wednesday november 9th. i have committed that come the 9th of november -- >> if he loses, i want him to conce concede, but we -- >> we need to put the pieces back together when this thing ends. and come wednesday the 9th, i'm not obsessing about what he said about mexicans. i'm moving on if he's the president, and if she wins, no more e-mail server. it's time to move forward. >> we have to take a break. we'll reveal the results of our first poll and hear from your focus group of undecided voters here in nevada. stay with us.

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we're about to get the first results of the cnn poll. our political director is here. david, what are the results. this is not a nationwide poll. this is a poll of debate watchers. that's key. skews slightly more democratic here, but actually it's our most evenly divided audience of any of the debates so far this season. let's get to the results. who won the debate? hillary clinton. 52% of debate watchers say she was if winner. 39% say donald trump was the winner. that's a closer margin than we saw in the previous debates. how about who was on the attack

more? who spent more time attacking their opponent? donald trump, 60% of debate watchers say he was more on the attack. 23% say that of clinton, and 15 % say they were both attacking their opponents. and the fairness of the attacks, were trumps attacks fair? 55% say yes, his attacks on hillary clinton were fair. 43% say no. and what about hillary clinton's attacks on trump? 63% say hers were fair. 34 % say they were not fair. >> all three of these debates according to our poll, instant poll of people who watched the debates believe hillary clinton won all three? >> she's 3-0 here. that's a hat trick for her. >> what's the significance, jake? >> i think it's, first of all, the fact that debate watchers

thought that the attacks were generally fair. it shows that they both got their licks and their punches. that he was seen as being on the attack more. i ascribe a lot of that to his interrupting and such a nasty woman, quote unquote, aside, which i think was just really poorly thought out. if it was thought out at all, thing to say. it revealed a level of hostility. >> let me play that clip. we have that moment. i'll play it right now. >> my social security payroll contribution will go up as will donalds, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. but we want to -- >> such a nasty woman. >> that's getting a lot of reaction. >> i mean, he took the bait. he did that in the first debate. he did it in the second debate and the third debate. she just made an aside about him trying to get out of paying taxes. maybe a cheap shot, but all is

fair in love and war and politics, and then he leans in so nobody misses it, and says such a nasty woman. and i think that that comment resonated with women across the country. >> let's ask a woman. dana, does it resonate? >> yeah. it's certainly not what you want to hear anybody say. i think that's running for president, no matter who you are. i think whether you're a woman or man, if you're a trump supporter, it is probably going to be okay. i mean, if you're one of those core supporters. in philadelphia last week i talked to many, many women who are trump supporters who said a lot worse about hillary clinton, but having said that, you're right, this is about donald trump actually practicing and preparing for this debate. and for the most part, it came through. now, the bar was not that high. he didn't really have that far to go. but that moment, the ombré

moment, and, of course, probably the mother of all moments that undermined all the preparation he did was the fact that he wouldn't say he would accept the election results. that is what's so frustrating for trump advisors and supporters. he has all of -- he's made so much progress on so many other issues and so many other ways, but all you needed are a few missteps and that's what undermines everything. >> one of the things we saw in the polls when he started going down when we saw an impact was that republican women, he started lowering his number among them. they come back home when they feel better about the debate performance. but it's exactly the people he needs to not only keep in the fold but continue to grow. republican independent women, and that is why that line is so difficult for him. >> both donald trump and hillary clinton were hoping to sway undecided voters tonight. we have a group of these voters

with randi kaye here in las vegas. you're about to see the moments they liked the most. remember, as you watch, look at the bottom of the screen. men's responses are in green. women's are in yellow. here now is donald trump's highest point of the debate when talking about immigration. >> somebody runs across the border, becomes a citizen. you would have a disaster on trade and you will have a disaster with your open borders. what she doesn't say is that president obama has deported millions and millions of people. >> let's go to ran di. what did these voters like about this answer? >> reporter: wolf, that answer got a lot of attention from our group here. certainly resonated with myra. we're talking about the sound bite where donald trump was pinning hillary clinton on her wanting open borders, saying he would seal the borders.

>> there is a bridge that goes from south texas into mexico, and with this bridge you can walk across it or drive across it, and underneath the bridge is the rio grand river. >> you see a problem? >> the borders need to be sealed because the people just totally swim across the river. sometimes there are 30, 40, 50 crossing at any given time during the day and night. it goes on all day long. the families put a lot of stress on the ranchers and on the state of texas and on the services and schools and hospitals for the state of texas. >> that's why it was really important to you? and i know keith over here, we got a big reaction on that same sound bite. why was it important to you? >> you're either a country with border or not, or a country with laws or not. we know drugs are coming in illegal and isis is coming in,

and i believe cia and fbi said at capitol hill there's no way of really vetting them coming into the country. >> that was just a couple of responses to donald trump's highest point, and wolf, i know you have another moment where hillary clinton also did pretty well with this group. >> that's right. let's take a look at hillary clinton's most liked moment. >> i will defend planned parenthood. i will defend row v wade and women's rights to make their own health care decisions. we've come too far to have that turned back now and, indeed, he said women should be punished and there should be a form of punishment for women who obtain abortions, and i could just not be more opposed to that kind of thinking. >> all right. both men and women seemed to like that response, right? >> yeah. we found that really interesting that both men and women

supported hillary clinton in that moment. natalie did talking about the planned parenthood moment. where she said that she would defend a woman's right to make health care decisions. >> it was important to me because i don't think the government should have control over a woman's body just like they wouldn't have control of a man's body. and also planned parenthood comes with a lot of other options. it's not just a ripping out, and i want to know what anatomy class he was in that he thought that's how it's performed days before, ripping out. >> and men as well feel strongly about this. why did you agree with hillary clinton and think that was a high moment for her in that time in the debate? >> because a woman's choice is her choice. it should not be the government's decision as to who determines what we can and can't do about our families and our bodies. it should be a woman's right if she is able to be in that

situation where she doesn't want to have it or it's in jeopardy of her life, it's her decision, and the family should be able to experience that and support her in that way. >> all right. so we're coming down to the final days before election day. of course we wanted to know who this group thought won this debate. because they're trying to make up their minds, as you said. let's get a show of hands. how many people in this group came in undecided, who thinks hillary clinton won the debate? a quick count here. 11 of you. how many of you think that donald trump won the debate? nine people think donald trump. how about a draw? anybody think it was a draw? natalie thought it was a draw. listen, i know a couple of you here, i saw the hands for hillary clinton. why do you think she won? how would you describe her performance? >> she's more believable. >> facts. >> truth. >> reporter: there you have it, wolf. a lot of people still trying to make up their minds. it's okay. i'll let you go on the fact that

you used more than one word. listen, we wanted to know, of course, did this debate help anyone make up their mind? have they decided? that's the key question, and when we chat again we'll talk to them during the break and we'll have the answers for you when we chat again. >> all right. thank you very much. it looks like a draw over there by those undecided voters here in las vegas. >> yeah, and as we discussed in previous debates, one of the things important about these events is what comes out of them that will be given a lot of attention and oxygen over the next week. and i think donald trump, he got punches in, and when it came to especially criticizing the clinton foundation and when it came to criticizing obama and clinton foreign policy, but i think the headline is refuses to say he'll concede if he loses necessarily. he says he's going to keep us in

suspense. that was the term he used. and i think such a nasty woman. i think those are going to be the things that are kept alive in the mainstream media it will be the refusal to concede. and a lot of republicans will be asked about that. his campaign is saying he means the media. we'll concede. mike pence said earlier. he had just said he won't necessarily concede, and then in terms of what are the clinton democrats going to do and what are liberal media going to do? i'm already seeing memes, this nasty woman votes, i'm with her. women have seized upon that, and it's been ginned up by democrats, but on the left, and social media and democrats, that's going to be big. and those are going to be the two things. that's not what he needed in this debate. he needed to be appealing to my beloved friends in the main line

outside of philadelphia. and he is -- he did not do that tonight. >> and hillary clinton said it was horrifying, his answer, and chris wallace pressed him on it. and he said i'll keep it in suspense. i'm not going to give you an answer right now. even though an hour before the debate we spoke to his running mate who flatly, quickly, immediately said, of course we will accept the results. >> i think the biggest tell was what kellyanne conway, his campaign manager said to me just down there minutes after the debate ended. it was sounded like what he was supposed to say and based on what they prepared which was, you know, barring any unforeseen circumstances, certainly there could be an al gore moment, but she did without me even saying much more, say he will accept the results. and to your point, jake, about republicans being asked about this, a lot of republicans aren't even waiting. we're seeing tweets from people,

okay, they're no fans of donald trump, but people like lindsey graham and others, maybe they are predisposed to coil at things republicans say, but the fact that they're unsolicited sending out tweets saying they disagree, that that is not american, that in a democracy that doesn't happen, it's telling. >> can i say something about the election being rigged, which it is not? first of all, i can't understand how this doesn't do anything other than suppress his voter's turnout. if his supporters look at the polls and they're hearing from their candidate, it's rigged and if i don't win, it's because your vote doesn't matter, why would they turn out to vote? i think it hurts him, potentially. just as a practical matter. i think it hurts republican turnout. republicans want republicans to turn out to vote, and then the

ideological idea that we believe in the right to vote and we believe that every vote matters. this is a nonpartisan concept. this year has turned those things on its head, but the idea that sometimes there is voter suppression as people on the left complain and sometimes there is voter fraud. that does happen, but it is a vast minority, and your vote does matter and count. this is not even -- donald trump takes things that are just perfectly american pure thoughts and just throws them out the window. >> guys, excellent points. everyone stand by. coming up, reality checks on some of the more provacative claims tonight. did hillary clinton get it right when she talked about undocumented workers building trump tower in new york? that and more results from our poll of debate watchers coming up. to sprint. sprint? i'm hearing good things about the network. all the networks are great now. we're talking within a 1% difference

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let's get some reality checks son the assertions made by these two candidates. tom foreman is standing by. jim sciutto is standing by. first to you, tom foreman. >> wolf, both these candidates went toe to toe over the issue of nuclear proliferation. listen. >> this is a person who has been very cavalier, even casual about the use of nuclear weapons. >> wrong. >> he's advocated more countries getting them, japan, korea, even saudi arabia. he said if we have them, why don't we use them, which is terrifying. >> this is just another lie. >> well, i'm just quoting you. >> there's no quote.

you're not going to find a quote from him. >> well, back in march he spoke about the idea that maybe some countries that don't have nuclear weapons now that are friendly to the use ought to have them. he said if japan had that nuclear threat, i'm not sure that would be a bad thing for us. then he told us here at cnn he was ready to let japan and south korea become nuclear powers. in fairness, he has also spoken against nuclear proliferation, saying he would be the last to use a nuclear weapon out there. but in this specific part of her charge, the idea that he's suggested other nations should have nuclear weapons, yeah, that's true. and his name that he has not is false. wolf? >> let's get to jim sciutto. you did a reality check, as well. >> that's right, wolf. this one closer to home. the issue undocumented workers and the construction of trump tower in new york. here is hillary clinton tonight. >> he used undocumented labor to

build the trump tower. he underpaid undocumented workers, and when they complained, he basically said what a lot of employers do, you complain, i'll get you deported. >> so the claim, hillary clinton claiming donald trump used undocumented workers to build trump to youer in new york, even threatened to deport them when they complained about low pay. there's a court record here, in fact, undocumented polish workers sued trump in a class action lawsuit, complaining of those low wages, just $4 an hour. and some said they never received those wages owed to them, according to litigate cited by "the new york times." trump denied knowing that these workers were undocumented. he said they were hired through a contractor, not hired by donald trump. however, in 1991, a judge ruled that trump conspired "to withhold payments to union funds that he owed more than $325,000." this according to a "new york

times" report that lawsuit eventually settle out of court. so our verdict that this is mostly true, since trump was fined, via a court proceeding for illegally hiring workers regarding trump tower. you want to see all of our fact checks tonight, that's reality checks on cnn.com/realitycheck. >> we'll have more reality checks coming up. thank you very much. david, you've got some more results from our cnn/orc instant poll of debate watchers. >> that's right. the poll of debate watchers, let's do that top line again, who won the debate. hillary clinton 52%, donald trump 39%. hillary clinton, for the third time in a row this season, is deemed the winner in our instant poll of debate watchers. but this next finding may be even more important. who seemed better prepared for the presidency. clinton, 59%, trump 35%. that is a better score than people who thought she won the debate. so you look at that, that is the

threshold question. that is what donald trump didn't solve for himself tonight. we also asked who do you agree with on important issues. pretty even here. clinton, 50%, donald trump 47%. and another category where they divided evenly, who was more sincere and authentic. donald trump 47%, hillary clinton 46%. they divided on a lot of the issues and attributes. but when it came to who won and when it came to who can better serve as president, it was a clear clinton victory. >> very interesting. so much of the debate did get to substantive important national security domestic issues that hadn't been discussed all that much before. but those few examples when donald trump seemed to go overboard, they're now dominating the headlines. >> because look, this is an election where many people think it's a change election. president obama still has high approval ratings but people don't like the direction of the

country right now. usually after eight years of one party in power, the white house switches. so in many ways, this has been donald trump's to lose. he's the republican nominee coming in. without question, he represents change. and it's hard to imagine how hillary clinton represents anything beyond washington and power in washington and dare i say status quo. but in a fox news poll i saw the other day, hillary clinton was actually beating him on the notion of change. because she has convinced the american people, at least a plurality of the american people, that she can do the job. he has not beenible to rise to the level of convincing people that he actually has the temperament to be president. >> what that tells me also that this is a very, very divided country. no matter what happens with the election results, because of different points of view on temperament or readiness to be president. on the issues, very divided. coming up, we'll go back to

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and welcome back. it's the top of the hour. it is 9:00 p.m. here in las vegas. the debate ended about an hour and a half ago. i want to play one of the key moments in this debate. we're going to play the long version. it's about two minutes or so. chris wallace asking donald trump if he would accept the results of the election. take a look. >> one of the prides of this country is the peaceful transition of power and no matter how hard-fought a campaign is, that at the end of a campaign, that the loser concedes to the winner, not saying that you're necessarily

going to be the loser or the winner, but that the loser concedes to the winner, and that the country comes together in part for the good of the country. are you saying you're not prepared to -- >> what i'm saying is i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspense. >> let me respond to that, because that's horrifying. every time donald thinks things are not going in his direction, he claims whatever it is is rigged against him. the fbi conducted a year-long investigation into my e-mails. they concluded there was no case. he said the fbi was rigged. he lost the iowa caucus. he lost the wisconsin primary. he said the republican primary was rigged against him. then trump university gets sued for fraud and racketeering. he claims the court system and the federal judge is rigged against him. there was even a time when he didn't get an emmy for his tv program three years in a row and he started tweeting that the emmys were rigged. >> should have gotten it.

[ laughter ] >> this is a mind-set. this is how donald thinks. and it's funny, but it's also really troubling. >> okay. >> that is not the way our democracy works. we've been around for 240 years. we've had free and fair elections. we've accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. and that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. you know, president obama said the other day, when you're whining -- >> hold on, folks. hold on, folks. >> it just shows you're not up to doing the job. let's be clear about what he is saying and what that means. he's denigrating, he's talking down or democracy. and i, for one, am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our two major parties would take that kind of position. >> we had about a 45-minute discussion about this. we have some new panelists.

john, what did you make of that moment? >> what i make most of it is the e-mailing back and forth with republicans in the key swing states. donald trump, we haven't discussed anything that happened in the context of where we are in the campaign. she came in with a commanding lead, and so what did each of them say and how does it affect the situation on the ground for the next 19 days? top republicans in florida, in ohio, in new hampshire, that is not a recipe to win the voters he needs to win. maybe his base supporters like it. one said this is a brilliant strategy to get from 37% to 40%, but to win the middle of the electorate, to answer doubts about temperment and judgment, republicans in those states didn't like it. >> let's go back to the closest election, al gore and george w. bush. and if either of them, going into this election, would have conceded that we will not use every legal means possible to us

at the end before the election began, we wouldn't -- we never would have had a recount. >> that's different than what donald trump said. >> we would have never had a -- >> are you disappointed in your running mate that -- >> here's what i'm disappointed in. the hypocrisy of no one calling al gore -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> al gore conceded that time, unkconceded and reconceded six weeks later. [ overlapping speakers ] >> why wouldn't your guy say, of course, unless there's something that is called into question the result. of course i will accept them. >> what he is saying -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> let's talk about what he said. he said, i'll keep you in

suspen suspense. there's nothing presidential about his debate performance, and his answer. this is the most undemocratic answer that could have been given. that was a horrible answer. he made a mockery of american democracy tonight. >> you know what's a mockery? this whole conversation is -- [ overlapping speakers ] she doesn't want to talk about what's really going on. she lied about her immigration position. >> it wasn't the question asked at the debate. the question was asked by chris wallace, who did a good job pressing both candidates. he did ask some questions of secretary clinton. this was a question -- anderson did a great job, as well. i'm talking about tonight. this question was not asked in 2000. if it had been asked during the debates, i'm sure both candidates would have said i fully expect to accept the results.

the reason the question was asked, donald trump keeps say there's election fraud, there's a rigged election. we can talk for 25 years about that if you want. he says specifically the election is being rigged now, and will be rigged on election day. that has never happened before. >> let's talk about what donald trump has talked about. he talked about immigration, he's talked about the terrible trade deals. hillary clinton has changed her position and now tpp is a bad thing. [ overlapping speakers ] he talked about nato paying their fair share. he's talking about having a free and fair election, making sure the election results are honest and trustworthy. now the american people say that's right. and the media bias that's surrounded this campaign is unequivocal, it is biased. so he's saying let's make sure this election is fair and honest, and at the end of the day, i will make sure -- [ overlapping speakers ]

[ crowd noise ] [ crowd chanting "lock her up" ] >> you keep coming out here and respin everything. >> the bigger problem is, we're not talking about issues. hillary clinton tried over and over again to -- tonight, we're judging donald trump whether he pouted for five minutes or whether he smiled. we're not even talking about his inability to answer questions. the fact that he -- not only does he not have the temperament to lead this country, he doesn't have the temperament to be a high school president. >> wait, wait, i was a high school president and he certainly has the temperament. >> can i just redo something that donald trump said in past may during the primaries? after he was doing well, right?

he was winning or won. you've been hearing me say it's a rigged system. but now i don't say it anymore because i won. it's true. now i don't care, i don't care. and the only way i won, i won by such a big margin, because sit a rigged system. but the only way you can do it, it's like a boxer. you've got to knock them out. then you don't got to worry about the judges. but it's true. so -- >> what was his tone of voice? >> i don't know. >> let me read you something that al gore said. [ overlapping speakers ] >> ignoring voters means ignoring democracy itself. if you ignore those results in florida, how can you or any american have confidence that your vote will not be ignored in a future election. >> these are two different things. donald trump was complaining about the rigged system -- donald trump was complaining about the rigged system all along. until he won. [ overlapping speakers ]

al gore was complaining because there was an automatic recount in the state of florida. as you know, 537 votes was the difference. this is different. the complaints about the rigged system, the complaints about the rigged system occur during a presidential debate you have never seen anything like that. al gore wasn't complaining. >> can i just ask a question? for the rest of this part of the discussion, and i think corey missed the first hour and a half, but can we please address the election that will take place on november 8, 2016, and not relitigate an election that's been solved from 2000. so bring up the e-mails because it has something to do with this election. >> angela, i'll tell you why.

>> it's nuts. >> i'll tell you why, and you weren't here. >> you asked the question. >> let me answer. what donald trump is saying, what many americans feel is that the system, fbi, state department, you name it, is quote unquote rigged. they let off their friends. they play a double game. and it doesn't matter whether it's the election or whether it's the internal workings of the fbi getting her off the hook, it's all part and parcel of the same thing. that is what the election is about. [ overlapping speakers ] >> so john king, you are the person who i think we all look to. this guy says he wants to be a law and order candidate. do you think that republicans and other people, when he starts playing with the rule of law, the fundamentals of a law and order candidate or of a law and order society, you respect the constitution and the process.

has he put himself in harm's way with republicans playing with this idea of maybe this is not legitimate, maybe you've got to be violent, have a revolt. help us understand how this will be processed in this election. >> you're asking me a somewhat loaded political question. that's not my job. to corey's point, i'm trying to answer the very specific thing about a rigged election. not the rigged system, not the fbi, but what donald trump said about a rigged election, that somebody could fake the vote or get into the system and switch the count. that's what i'm talking about. but i'm willing to talk to you about everything else. but republicans are saying donald trump is wrong about this. there's a lot of that going on. certainly without a doubt. just to have a candidate for president, and donald trump -- [ crowd chanting "donald trump" ] -- that means changing the

numbers and cheating. >> you have republican governors and secretaries of state. you're trying to stay a republican candidate saying i believe republican governors and republican secretaries of state are going to allow this -- >> in the last ten years, democrats have won two presidential elections overwhelmingly. republicans have won everything else. if the system is rigged, the republicans have benefited a whole lot more. i believe there are instances of fraud, yes, but in a way that changes the race for congress, for governor, for president? >> i guess the question is, for the next week, is this going to be a discussion out on the campaign trail, and how does that help or hurt donald trump? does it help donald trump to have this be the topic that's discussed for the next week eating up air time. >> as a stand alone, no. >> it seems like the debate is

going to be more, was it appropriate what he said more than anything else. >> as a candidate, he should be -- >> why is -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> we've had a lot of instances of this. >> where? >> what do you mean? >> pennsylvania state senate race -- wait, wait. >> it was overturned, overturned, because the judge said the race was stolen. the kennedy-nixon race. nixon went to his grave thinking it was stolen from him. al gore, there are all sorts of things that john kerry thinks, well, ohio, all this stuff. >> we're not going to resolve this. because what you're saying to me sounds more anecdotal. >> what i'm saying is the problem of double standards. >> here's the question i want to

ask you, which is why was donald trump's answer to this question different from mike pence's answer? >> and kellyanne conway. >> why is tim kaine's answer on taxpayer funded abortion different than hillary clinton? >> can you answer her question? >> sure. you tell me why is barack obama's position -- >> can you answer without rhetorical question? >> you tell me every presidential candidate and their running mate who agree on every single answer. how about gay marriage with joe biden and barack obama? [ overlapping speakers ] >> this isn't a policy question. you have one guy saying i believe in the integrity of the election system and the other guy saying i'm not sure. that seems like a profound issue.

>> when you are talking about the integrity of the american's democracy -- both you guys, i said it to jeffrey, i'll say it to you, you are not helping yourself like this. >> david, david -- >> it is not sensible. >> all i'm saying to you, and i'll say it again, this is about a double standard for elites versus everybody else. >> what it's about is -- [ overlapping speakers ] [ multiple speakers ] >> if this is what the next 19 days is about, about a rigged system and they're taking the election and not if you're donald trump about getting you a job, fundamentally restructuring the economy and changing washington, then hillary clinton is going to get 340 electoral votes. >> here's the deal.

this is a fundamental leadership failure on the part of donald trump in the following way -- first of all, you have to remember both of these candidates, both hillary clinton and donald trump had tremendous problems with their own parties. hillary clinton was able to heal a rift in her own party such as now sanders is being a surrogate for her. donald trump, his first leadership challenge is to heal his party. he's not been able to unite his own party or campaign. kellyanne conway threw him under the bus today. he's not able to unite his own family. so you have a catastrophic leadership failure of the first order, for the very first time on the candidate. >> i think there's been a point in this election where donald trump could have won it without unifying the republican party because he had the capability to

reach out to democrats and independents. if we're having this conversation on september 26, the day of the first debate, donald trump is getting 87, 89% of the republican vote. he was also getting independents and democrats. so he was making up for his problems with some republicans by having broader appeal outside the electorate. there have been times when donald trump could win without getting all of ronald reagan's party or all of george w. bush's party because he's a different kind of candidate. he had outside republican appeal. he has lost that right now. if you go state by state, he's under mitt romney's vote in alabama, in mississippi, in texas, he's under romney's number. if you're under romney's number and getting independents and democrats, that's okay. but he's not getting the independents and democrats anymore, because he's talking about this stuff, not about changing washington and the economy. >> if you look at the first

debate, this question was asked about accepting the outcome of the election and donald trump said the answer is, if she wins, i will absolutely support her. what happened between that debate and this debate is donald trump is collapsing in the polls among all of these different groups. so it does play into this idea of things respect going his way. [ crowd chanting "lock her up" ] >> and he's listening to people for years who have said this. conservative talkradio, steve bannon for years have said this. >> if donald trump wants to raise the issue with the american people, which was not at the forefront of this presidential debate, and talks about those issues and talks about the fact that we have to make sure we have integrity in our voting process, there's nothing wrong with that, so on election day -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> do you think this energizes -- there are two different schools of thought on this politically. aside from the fact that it's a dangerous thing to do

potentially, that it energizes his base to get out there and vote or it depresses his base? >> i think donald trump has addressed more issues as a candidate than hillary clinton has ever achieved -- >> i'm talking about the rigged system. >> i think it will energize his base, absolutely. >> is that a reason he's doing it now and he said he would accept the results when he was ahead? >> before the debate, what i thought he was going to try to do is tie this all together. that's what i think he was doing. >> do you think he did that successfully? >> i think he needs to do it more, not less. >> i think what corey was talking about earlier in the day, that donald trump didn't talk about a lot tonight was this notion of reformer. he did talk about hillary clinton not doing anything -- >> he put out specific things about lobbyists and -- >> tonight, he didn't talk about draining the swamp and all that stuff which has a lot of resonance out there. >> they had a very engaging conversation on immigration.

it was the high point of the debate. they had a detailed conversation on a number of issues, including immigration, but also on our e-mail exchange. this is an issue that hillary clinton cannot duck. the polling indicates she loses every time they talk about her e-mails. she continues to not validate the wikileaks being authentic. they have never said they're not real, but they won't say they are. and they say if they're not real, let's give you the real e-mail it is the ones that wikileaks are reporting aren't real. they can't do that, and her own campaign chairman understands there's problems with their honesty. >> let's look at one of the best moments for donald trump. let's take a look. >> i asked a simple question, she's been doing this for 30 years. why the hell didn't you do it over the last 15, 20 years? you were very much involved -- excuse me, my turn. you were very much involved in every aspect of this country.

i say the one thing you have over me is experience, but it's bad experience, because what you have done has turned out badly. for 30 years you've been in a position to help. the problem is you talk, but you don't get anything done, hillary, you don't. >> i think that was an effective moment for him. that is his core argument. you've been around for 30 years, i'm new, i'm different, i will change up a system that isn't serving people well. that's his fundamental argument. he had other good moments where he put her on the defensive. she made a very quick pivot on the open borders question, and went right to the russian hacking. and it was very obvious. he called her on it. and there were several moments like that. the problem is, they were all eclipsed by this other thing. if you look at the headlines of

every newspaper, it's trump refuses to accept election results. >> who's eclipsing it? >> i've been preparing candidates for debates for a long time. the one thing you tell them is -- >> don't get spontaneous. >> don't say stuff that's going to hijack your own debate. don't get in your own way. donald trump is forever in his own way. that's why he's in the straits he's in right now. >> what you're saying is it's because the media pounces. >> because he says things that are so outrageous -- >> to whom -- >> to the american people. >> here's a problem with your argument. the media system as you describe it, i'm going to grant you, it's awful, it's biased. it has it out for republicans. i'll give you that. >> can we stop the show now? >> but guess what? that's not a brand new development in your world today. this is something you've been

saying for a long time. so you're saying you have a leader that is so incompetent that he can't figure out the terrain is tough and he can't adjust. you can't have it both ways. you can't say you have a brilliant leader who understands the media, who then steps on every rake that he finds in the field and say he's a genius. >> van, here's the difference. republicans keep saying that people like mitt romney -- they go back a long way -- don't fight. what they like about donald trump is precisely what he's doing. they are saying that he is not just laying down on media bias or a whole lot of other things, that he's standing up and fighting, that's what they like. [ overlapping speakers ] >> how do you see this?

>> angela, then corey. >> i want to go back to this sound bite, on this 30 years. i think hillary clinton actually ended up winning this, when she said i'm happy to compare my 30 years of experience to yours. >> which she saw coming and was prepared. >> it looks like that preparation worked. >> look, during the fitness to be president component, donald trump talked about people who are paid to disrupt his rallies and the media hasn't talked one second about that. [ multiple speakers ] >> hillary clinton, when she wants to talk about inciting violence, listen to the rhetoric she uses when it comes to immigration. that's inciting concern -- [ multiple speakers ] >> how about the fact that a

four-star general is in prison today for doing what hillary clinton did. he lied to the fbi once and she lied 33 times. this is the vice chairman of the joint chiefs is in jail today for lying to the fbi once. hillary clinton lied 33 times, and she's free to run president of the united states. >> i read the article in "the new york times" about that. people are talking about it. let's go over to wolf. >> thanks, anderson. i want to get more reality checks. tom foreman and jim sciutto are going through the assertions made during this debate. tom, first to you. what did you find? >> hi, wolf. donald trump went after hillary clinton with a real dollars and cents accusation. >> $6 billion was missing. how do you miss $6 billion? $6 billion was either stolen -- they don't know, it's gone. $6 billion.

>> where did this accusation come from? there's some conservative media outlets that have been scrutinizing a document that says over the past six years, contracts with a total value of more than $6 billion were incomplete or could not be located at all. but the state department inspector general said they have absolutely misunderstood and mischaracterized what this means. he says this means there is sloppy paperwork, but the money is not missing. it is not lost. based on that, trump's claim about this is false. wolf? >> thank you, jim sciutto, what did you find out? >> hacking the u.s. election, one of the most heated exchanges of the debate on who is responsible for that hacking, have a listen. >> she has no idea whether it's russia, china, or anybody else. she has no idea. hillary, you have no idea. >> 17 intelligence -- do you

doubt -- >> our country has no idea. >> well, he would rather believe vladamir putin than the military and civilian intelligence professionals who are sworn to protect us. i find that just absolutely -- >> she doesn't like putin because putin has outsmarted her at every step of the way. >> you heard the claim there. donald trump arguing the u.s. does not really know, has no idea in his words who is behind the hacking of the democratic party, and u.s. voting systems. so let's look at the facts. a little more than a week ago, the u.s. intelligence community and the department of homeland security took the rare step of publicly naming and shaming russia for hacking democratic party organizations and officials. their statement said that the intelligence community made that judgment with confidence. they went on to say it's their view that such a cyber attack was likely approved by the senior most russian leaders. now, to be fair, the u.s. has not determined with the same

confidence which country or actor is behind the attempted hacks of some 20 state voter registration systems. except for the hack of the state of florida's voting system, that they blamed on russian groups. but really, the verdict very clear, u.s. intelligence agencies saying it is russia that's responsible for many of these election hacks. we rate donald trump's claim false. remember, you can go to cnn.com/realitycheck. wolf? >> jim sciutto, thank you very much. tom foreman, thanks to you. david, you're getting some more results from our cnn/orc instant poll. >> now we're digging in on issues. let's start again how the debate watchers say who won the debate tonight, overall results. 52% of debate watchers tonight in our poll say hillary clinton won the debate tonight. 39% say donald trump won the debate tonight. scoring her third victory in our poll. this debate season.

now let's look at some issues. who would better handle the economy? take a look at this and how close it is. 50% of debate watchers say that hillary clinton would better handle the economy. 48% say that of donald trump. who would better handle immigration? that was a hotly debated topic tonight. donald trump 50% of debate watchers say he would better handle immigration, clinton 48%. very close results on two big issues there. >> the debate started off on the issue of the supreme court, who would be better in filling a vacancy or more on the supreme court. >> another basic tie in our result. who would better handle supreme court nominations, donald trump gets 49% of debate watchers who say he would better handle scotus nominations and hillary clinton gets 48%. so to dana's point earlier, we do see when you dig in on some of these issues and the topics that were debated that chris wallace presented that it is a divided nation in many respects.

>> and see more of the results from our cnn/orc instant poll, download the cnn politics app to always know who is winning and why. quick thought on the results we're getting? >> i want to read an e-mail from a republican congressman. i found it stunning. he said, this is a republican congressman, who wants -- doesn't want hillary clinton to win. trump is toast, toast. literally anyone else in the world could have beaten her except him. i worry about the house. that last part is very significant, because republicans have already been worried that donald trump will drag down the senate. although there is some evidence that some of the senate candidates on the republican side have distanced themselves sufficiently that they might pull it off. but if her margin is so big that that won't be enough for republican senate candidates in

swing states, and the house has always seemed to be out of reach because of redirecting and a whole bunch of reasons too boring to go into right now but very important. but if the wave is so big, and donald trump is suppressing his own voter turnout by telling them it's not going to matter, here's a republican congressman saying i'm worried that we might lose the house. i don't know if that's going to happen or not, but if they're worried about it, that's not a good sign. >> it's 30 seats to win. for the democrats to win. i have had republicans say to me, in recent days, that if the democrats were a little bit better prepared and they thought it was even remotely feasible to retake the house, then it would have been possible. if there's a wave, then it still could happen. but the fact of the matter is, republicans are very, very nervous, which is why they really needed donald trump to do

well tonight, and more importantly, they needed hillary clinton to stumble, which didn't happen. coming up, we'll see how undecided voters are reacting to donald trump's refusal to say he would accept the results of this presidential election. we will go back to our focus group right here in las vegas. stay with us. guess what guys, i switched to sprint.

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let's get back to our focus group of undecided voters. randi kaye is here in las vegas. let's take a look at some of the low moments of the night according to these voters. here's one of those low moments for donald trump when he was asked if he will accept the results of this presidential election. >> i'm not looking at anything now, i'll look at it at the time. what i've seen, what i've seen is so bad. first of all, the media is so dishonest and so corrupt and the pile-on is so amazing, "the new york times" actually wrote an

article about it, that they don't even care, it's so dishonest and they've poisoned the minds of the voters. but i think the voters are seeing through it. >> so why didn't these voters like this answer? >> let me start with shawn. why didn't you like the answer when trump said he would not accept the election results until he had a chance to look at them? >> when looking at the question of peaceful transfer, you know, i think he was faced with at the last debate and i think he was faced with the real possibility of losing, and being that he's an ego maniac, he reacted, and it was unfavorable and unpatriotic. >> a lot of folks felt the same way. you have a low point for hillary clinton that this group agreed on, wolf. >> here's hillary clinton's low

moment, when talking about the hacking of e-mails and russia's involvement. women seemed to like it even less than men. >> well, that's because he would rather have a puppet as president. >> no puppet, no puppet. >> it's -- >> you're the puppet. >> it's clear that the russians have engaged in cyber attacks against the united states of america, that you encouraged espionage against our people, that you are willing to spout the putin line, sign up for his wish list, break up nato, do whatever he wants to do, and you continue to get help from him because he has a very clear favorite in this race. >> so randi, what are they saying about that moment? >> we were talking about that here the moment where hillary clinton said that donald trump would be putin's puppet and accused his campaign of cyber

attacks. why did that not sit well? >> i feel hillary is not taking accountability for what has happened with the e-mails and russia is being used as a smoke screen. that in order to clear this up, she's going to have to say she's done what she has done. >> with 20 days left, did this debate help anyone make up their mind or change a vote? let's ask the group with a show of hands, did this debate help any of you decide on a candidate and if so, how many of you have decided now to vote for hillary clinton? five of you. how about did this debate help you decide to vote for donald trump. ten of you. all right. what about third party, gary johnson or jill stein, make you want to vote for any of them. next, who is still undecided here? six of them still undecided. and as we're getting closer, they're still trying to decide.

but part of the problem is they all feel this election has been so crazy. so i asked them just one word, how would you describe this election. >> deplorable. >> emotional. >> how about in the back. >> different. >> crazy. >> educational. >> what about you, zeke? >> great. >> great? you're having fun with it. you? >> circus. >> it's just a sampling. that's why people are having a hard time deciding, but they are running out of time. wolf? >> 19 days to go, and not much time left. people say in politics, a week or two weeks could be a lifetime. >> sure. it's interesting that donald trump won that focus group. i saw him win a frank luntz focus group on a different channel. >> along those lines, let's first remind everyone, our instant poll of debate watchers, who won the debate, hillary

clinton 52%, donald trump 39%. she was the winner of the debate. when we asked that critical question, who did the debate make you more likely to vote for, trump at 23%. clinton, 22% of debate watchers more likely to vote for her. but a majority, 54%, say no change in their vote at all. we should just note, that is the first time in our three debates that numerically, donald trump moved more voters to his cause than did hillary clinton. we haven't seen that before. but it is also the largest number we've seen for no change at all. >> and we can show more of the results. if you want to see more of the results of our cnn/orc instant poll, go to cnn politics app. anderson, over to you. >> coming up, another reality check on what we heard from trump and clinton tonight and we want to know, did the debate change your vote?

go to cnn.com/vote. we'll have the results ahead.

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a great deal, gun control. >> we have 33,000 people a year who die from guns. >> the centers for disease control say in 2014, the last year for which we have complete numbers, there were 33,599 total. however, out of that number, 11,409 were homicides or legal interventions. essentially a police shooting there. all the rest of them were either suicides, which is a big number, accidents are something else. these are still critical, these are still tragedies. this is still a terrible thing, but it's important that people know the difference when they talk about that big number. she didn't lay it out the way she should. it's true but it's absolutely misleading. donald trump had something to say about guns, too. >> the second amendment, which is under absolute siege. i believe if my opponent should win this race, which i truly

don't think will happen, we will have a second amendment which will be a very, very small replica of what it is right now. >> well, president obama started this year calling for federal agencies to use all their powers to cut down on gun violence, pushing congress to do something about it, which congress has had very little luck passing any kind of gun legislation. but states out there, look what's happening with them. here's a study by harvard business school. from 1990 to 2014, more than 20,000 gun laws were proposed at the state level. more than 3,000 of them passed. although, these are a real mixed bag. for example, there are laws out there that loosen and/or tighten gun restrictions. i say and/or, because you might have a law that makes it harder to buy a gun but easier to carry it, all in the same law, so it's hard to say what those laws have done. that's why we have to say when it comes to trump's idea that

the second amendment is under siege, all we can really say about that is, it's complicated. very much up to interpretation. anderson? >> tom foreman, thanks. let's check in with jim sciutto who has another reality check. >> we're talking about syrian refugees here, very sensitive issue on both sides. here's a claim donald trump made tonight. >> people are going to pour into our country, people are going to come in from syria, she wants 550% more people than barack obama. he has thousands and thousands of people. they have no idea where they come from. >> so donald trump there caming that the obama administration has allowed in thousands of syrians and clintons want to more than quintuple the number of people coming in and that the u.s. doesn't know the identities of the refugees from syria coming into this country. let's look at the facts. in 2016, the fiscal year that just ended, the u.s. admitted 12,500 syrians. hillary clinton has proposed raising that figure to 65,000,

about 550%. as for the second part of the claim, let's be honest here, the checks that they go through, very thorough, biometric checks like fingerprints, a strict vetting process to verify their identities. that can last more than 12 months. so our verdict here on the first one, we're going to say it's true. the obama administration has admitted thousands and thousands of refugees, that figure 12,500, and hillary clinton wants to increase that very significantly. the significant part, however, false. there is, in fact, a long, thorough vetting process with backgrounds, the identities of the refugees. we rate that claim as false. go to our website, cnn.com/reality check. anderson? >> jim sciutto. jim, thank you very much. back with our panel here. just in terms of where the race goes now, that's what it is obviously all about. the debates are done. they are not going to be on the

stage together again. this is a few weeks away now. >> 19 days of state-by-state. a test of organization and resources. hillary clinton has more money but based on everything we know and the republicans say they will prove us wrong and let's keep an open mind the romney campaign did better than the mccain campaign. the rnc said it will step it up. if you look right now, if nothing changes, hillary clinton wins the election and by a healthy margin. trump has to get arizona back, republican state, utah back, a republican state. may have helped himself at the beginning of the debate, guns, abortion. may have helped him. anyone has to get their core states back this late is tough and then he has to change north carolina which is close and he has to win it. keep ohio which is he is slightly ahead and has to turn florida and even then needs 17

more electoral votes. >> more coming up. some final thoughts. we'll be right back.

>> tonight we actually ask you to go to cnn.com and asked you

did the debate change your vote. 13% said yes, 87% said no. the latest in a cross country tour. the campaign camp will be heading to washington, d.c. for election night. see photos of people at cnn in partnership with instagram and facebook and we want to hear from you. post a photo on instagram and #my vote. tell us who you are voting for. your picture could be a part of our election campaign. back now with the panel. in terms of what you are looking for in the days ahead -- sorry, hillary clinton is talking. let's listen in. >> trump university or losing the iowa caucus. he says it's rigged against him. >> how do you feel when he said nasty woman, nasty woman, and

you are a puppet? vladimir putin. >> i didn't pay attention to that. i was concerned that even now, after 17 intelligence agencies in our government, both the military and civilian have confirmed that russia has engaged in cyberattacks against americans that he refused to admit that it's true and condemn it for what it is, which is a blatant effort to try to interfere in our elections. >>. [ inaudible ] rally liberal base around your agenda and your appointment. >> bernie sanders is out there working hard every day to get me elected. looking forward to working with everybody in our party. as i said, in the closing, which

they gave us at the last minute, i'm reaching out to all americans, democrats, republicans and independents. i want to summon every american to use his or her talents and energy, ambition to help our country. >> are you worried about -- >> if they are found to have -- >> i know nothing about this. i can't deal with every one of the conspiracy theories. i hope you all have something to eat and drink. thank you. >> very well. >>. >> hillary clinton on her plane heading back. >> i think it will be interesting to see whether or not donald trump keeps up the talk of a rigged election. in some ways it better be better for him to talk about a rigged election than the sexual assault

allegations he was dealing with before. a change in the terms of what he is talking about. michelle obama will be in arizona tomorrow. that will interesting. and tonight how she frames the election in terms of women and women revolting against some of the things that donald trump has said. i think we will see the most active campaigning period for hillary clinton. he's been studying for a debate. a lot of the surrogates have taken up the slack. we will see what it looks like. >> i don't think that donald trump did anything to change the trajectory of the race which has been moving away from him. he has a chasm in the public polls in an aggregate of eight points. i think it will be interesting to see if some efforts are suddenly shifted to the senate in 'trying to get as many democratic senators elected. the candidate's resources and schedule reflect a commitment to that. does that become a big concern?

right now, i said earlier in the campaign, weeks ago it would take an inside straight for hump to win. now it is a royal flush. he has a really tough road. >> i think what we will see is the continued distancing of people who are up for re-election in the republican party against donald trump. i'm thinking of the state of florida where you have marco rubio running ahead of donald trump. how does he answer the question about the rigged election when it comes to him, when he is on the campaign trail? how does rob portman, running for re-election in the state of ohio answer that question? i think donald trump has, in his answer tonight, given his party even more problems than they had before this debate. >> we're going to wrap up our coverage of tonight's debate. if you missed any of the detate this evening, you can you can see it in its entirety.

we will replace the entire debate right now. >> good evening from the thomas and mack center at the university of nevada, las vegas. i'm chris wallace. i welcome you to the third and final 2016 presidential debates between secretary of state hillary clinton and donald j. trump. this debate is sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. the commission has designed the format. six roughly 15 minute segments with two minute answers to the first question. then open discussions for the rest of each segment. both campaigns have agreed to the rules. for the record, i decided the topics and the questions in each topic. none of those questionha