like this before and it comes on the heels to say he will honor the results of the election. he says he will do it if he wins. election day 18 days away. we have the story covered for you from all angles. let's begin with brianna keilar. >> hi, john. it was clear before the remarks where hillary clinton had more people coming up to her and this was a crowd more in her favor, but donald trump was more sharp as both candidates sort of jettison thea al dacorm on an evening of levity. >> hillary is so corrupt. she got kicked off the watergate commission. >> reporter: donald trump and hillary clinton were supposed to play nice. >> it's amazing i'm up here after donald. i didn't think he'd be okay with a peaceful transition of power. >> reporter: casting aside the night's traditional good humor

joking, both candidates delivering brutal takedowns of each other. >> this is the first time ever that hillary is sitting down and speaking to major corporate leaders and not getting paid for it. >> people look at the statue of liberty and they see a proud symbol of our history. donald looks at the statue of liberty and sees a four. maybe a five if she loses the torch and tablet and changes her hair. >> reporter: trump starting his speech strong. >> the media is even more bias this year than ever before. ever. michelle obama gives a speech and everyone loves it. it's fantastic. my wife, melania, gives the exact same speech and people get on her case. >> reporter: but losing the room after changing his tone.

>> hillary accidentally bumped into me and she very civilly said, pardon me. and very politely replied, let me talk to you about that after i get into office. >> reporter: trump even booed at time for crossing the line. >> hillary believes that it's vital to deceive the people by having one public policy and a totally different policy in private. that's okay. i don't know who they're angry at, hillary. you or i. here he is tonight in public pretending not to hate catholics. >> reporter: clinton landing her own sharp barbs right back at trump. >> donald, after listening to your speech, i will also enjoy listening to mike pence deny that you ever gave it. donald really is an healthy as a horse.

you know, the one vladimir putin rides around on. >> reporter: and poking fun at herself. >> this is such a special event that i took a break from my rigorous nap schedule to be here. >> reporter: and after a debate the night before where the candidates so noticeably did not shake hands they did shake hands after this event last night, but it was really noticeable, john and alisyn, that at the beginning of the event where we are told that there was a photo receiving line and they did not shake hands. >> a handshake finally after 90 minutes on the debate stage and an entire dinner. donald trump has some new language on whether he will accept the outcome of this election. chris live in washington with more on that. >> donald trump's continued refusal to say whether he will support a bedrock of american democracy has drawn criticism from all corners, including from gop leaders and republicans in

tough races. donald trump is defiant, mocking critics who rebuked him for refusing to say whether he will concede if he loses in november. >> i will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. >> reporter: the republican nominee is doubling down on his unsubstantiated claims that the election is rigged against him and leaving the door open to contest the vote. >> i will also reserve my right to contest or file a legal challenge in the case of a questionable result. >> reporter: trump's unprecedented remarks are drawing backlash from both sides and rattling an already fractured republican party. senator john mccain, who lost the presidential race back in 2008, saying a concession is "an act of respect for the will of the american people.

a respect that is every american leader's first responsibility." hillary clinton's trifecta of surrogates is nailing trump on the trail. starting with vice president joe biden in new hampshire. >> questioning not the legitimacy of our election, but the legitimacy of our democracy. >> reporter: first lady. >> he is threatening the idea of america itself and we cannot stand for that. you do not keep american democracy in suspense. >> reporter: and in florida, president obama condemning trump's dangerous talk as no joking matter. >> when you try to sew the seeds of doubt in people's minds about the legitimacy of our elections, that undermines our democracy. then you're doing the work of our adversaries for them. >> reporter: now, trump has provided no evidence to support

this charge that somehow the election is rigged. and, look, the facts don't bear that out either. a 2012 investigative report looked at over a decade of data and found just ten, ten cases of voter impersonation at the polls on election day. so, that was ten cases over ten years. and while the report does point out that, of course, fraud does occur, the number of cases, well, it's exceedingly small, alisyn. >> okay, chris, thank you very much. let's discuss this with corey lewandowski. great to have both of you here. corey, when we hear donald trump's message shift as we did yesterday from the debate where he refused to commit to accepting the election results to then yesterday saying, i'll accept them if i win and going further and saying, of course, i will accept them unless there is some reason not to accept them and there is some sort of questionable outcome.

what's happened behind the scenes? take us inside. >> let's be clear. during the debate he didn't say i'm not going to accept the election results, i'm going to leave you in suspense. >> what does that mean? >> if this election comes down to 537 votes, just like it did -- >> he didn't use that particular statement. it was much more general. >> he didn't say i am not going to accept the election results. yesterday what he said if there is a clear and decisive election result, i'll accept it. >> let's play it from the debate so the people know what he said exactly. >> are you saying you're not prepared to get -- >> what i am saying is that i'll tell you at the time. i'll keep you in suspense. >> corey? >> i'll tell you at the time and keep you in suspense. >> that means i'm not willing to commit. >> that is not what it says at all. >> why won't he say, yes, i will accept it? >> if there is a clear and

precise election result, he'll accept it. >> why didn't he say it at the debate? >> it caused an uproar that he didn't say it. he had to clarify it yesterday. >> he clarified it as much as hillary clinton has clarified the wikileaks. >> my original question is who gets tahim and says that is not the right message? >> i don't know the answer. i'm not part of that campaign. i think donald trump has been very clear now and said this yesterday in ohio. if the election results are conclusive, he will accept them. if donald trump wins by 320 electoral votes, he'll accept the election results. >> well, that's awfully curdi s courteous of him. >> now that you heard him clarify yesterday, yes, i will accept the results unless there something questionable. >> no, i don't think so. it has been the last ten days,

two weeks that he has been talking about a rigged system and talking how the voting process is fraud. so, i mean, this is where we are today. he, you know, he continues to show the lack of impulse control. at the debate he said it was suspense. i'll keep you in suspense as if we're in an episode of "the apprentice." this is not reality tv. this is the presidential election of the united states. this is one of the most important jobs in the world. >> not supposed to be a big reveal. >> yeah. >> if hillary clinton, if this race comes down to 537 votes nationwide and hillary clinton is losing is she just going to say, okay, i concede? >> it isn't just the past couple weeks he has been talking about a rigged election. let me bring you back to 2012. donald trump sent out some very telling tweets. he said more reports of voting machines switching. romney votes to obama. pay close attention to the machines. don't let your vote be stolen. that was november 6th, 2012. another one went out that day. this election is a total sham

and a travesty. we are not a democracy. corey, he has been beating this drum for long time. he dozen think we're living in a democracy. >> he wants to make sure when the american people go to vote their vote is counted the way it is supposed to be. in florida in 2000, these hanging chads and a lot of people were disenfranchised. >> has anybody told donald trump that they have. >> look, i don't know if they told him or haven't told him, but do i want to make sure when i go to vote my vote is counted for the right person. of course, that's an obligation we have as a country whether you agree or disagree whoever you chose to vote for, let's make sure it's counted properly. >> i was just going to say, look, corey, there is a more likely chance of you getting hit by lightning than voter fraud actually happening. one thing al gore did in 2000 is he gave the most remarkable and

most gracious concession speech in our history and i just hope when donald trump loses he's able to do the same thing. >> don't forget, what al gore did he conceded the election night and then unconceded the next day and he waited six more weeks. >> it was recount. >> no, no, no, no. the supreme court stepped in -- >> apples and oranges. >> after the supreme court ruled that it would not go forward al gore conceded. he waited six weeks. >> graciously. >> he didn't have a choice. the supreme court -- >> it was 36 days -- >> the supreme court, the third branch of our government stepped in and said this election is over. >> i think everybody snunderstas that if there is something that happens donald trump does not need to concede that night. he was making it sound as if he just lost fair and square. >> that's not the case. if this election is close and he was unprecedented in the al gore

race. now, let's just hope it doesn't happen, again. >> let's inject some levity into this exchange and last night there is the al smith dinner and traditionally both candidates go and they use self-deprecating jokes and they say something nice about their opponent. it didn't happen last night. let's listen to hillary clinton hitting donald trump about putin. >> you notice there is no teleprompter here tonight which is probably smart because maybe you saw donald dismantle his prompter the other day. i get that. they're hard to keep up with and i'm sure it's even harder when you're translating from the original russian. >> that got a smile out of corey. how does donald trump respond when he's the butt of jokes? >> i think a couple great jokes last night. the one about melania trump -- >> hilarious.

control room, let me know if we have that. >> i thought that was a great line. that is donald trump at his best. >> let's listen to that one. that was a good one. >> michelle obama gives a speech and everyone loves it. it's fantastic. they think she's absolutely great. my wife melania gives the exact same speech and people get on her case. and i don't get it. i don't know why. and it wasn't her fault. stand up, melania. come on. she took a lot of abuse. >> that was a great moment. >> that was a great moment. really great moment. look, i got to tell you, you

know, it's been a tough couple of months. it was nice to be able to laugh at what trump said about hillary clinton. to laugh what hillary clinton said about trump. that was good. humor, humor is important in all of this and also, look, "snl" is going to have some great fodder between the debate and last night. >> if only we can inject more humor and levity in the next couple weeks. >> voters have made up their mind. it wasn't a policy speech, it was fun. >> but it was nice tasee themo in that light. you guys were talking about it, did the jokes go too far at the al smith dinner? who better to ask than a guy named al smith. he'll be here with us, next.

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the presidential nominee swapping the campaign trail for center stage trading jokes at the alfred e. smith benefiting catholic charities, but think

they may have got a little personal. listen. >> when i got the chance to meet the people who are working so hard to get her elected. the heads of nbc, cnn, cbs, abc. there's "the new york times" right over there and "washington post." they're working overtime. >> it's amazing i'm up here after dawned. i didn't think he would be okay with a peaceful transition of power. >> all right. joining us now is al e. smith the v. al, thanks for being with us. your great, great-grandfather al smith was known as the happy warrior. people were saying last night was a little less happy and perhaps more warrior than we're used to seeing from the speakers there. do you think any of the speeches crossed the line? >> you know, before we get into any of the politics of the

dinner last night, i just want to say how proud i am of my father and the foundation the alfred e. smith and the fact that they were able to take the energy from this campaign and even some of the acrimony and point it into a positive direction to raise money for some of the neediest children in new york city is just remarkable. no matter what you have to say about either candidate something good did come from the dinner, as well as this campaign. >> raised more than $6 million. record setting, i believe. it is important that both candidates made a point to say how important it was to raise the money for the catholic charities. a lot of people have said they haven't been to an al smith dinner like the ones last night. >> i have been to a lot of dinners in my life and this is one for the record books i would have to say, absolutely. >> what did you think did cross the line? >> i think what we saw in the last debate a couple nights ago

we saw last night. donald had very solid minutes early on and eventually he crossed the line and took ittate little too far. hillary on the other hand was able to laugh at herself and at the same time not under play any of the serious things donald trump has said or done. >> you talk about hillary clinton and one of your favorite moments last was when hillary clinton made a joke about herself and donald trump at the same time. let's listen. >> because this is a friendly dinner for such a great cause. donald, if at any time you don't like what i'm saying, feel free to stand up and shout wrong while i'm talking. >> it was nice to see them both smile right there. >> absolutely. you know, that wrong was something we heard so many times in those three debates and that was pretty funny last night.

>> your favorite moment for donald trump when he made a joke about his wife, melania. when you talk about donald trump starting out strong. crossing the line may have been where he made a joke about what hillary clinton's campaign staff was e-mailing about catholics. listen to this. >> hillary believes that it's vital to deceive the people by having one public policy and a totally different policy in private. that's okay. i don't know who they're angry at, hillary. you or i. for example, here she is tonight in public pretending not to hate catholics. >> there were boos there. you saw hillary clinton glance over to the side there. what was it like in the room when he told that joke? >> that's a tough crowd to drop that line in front of.

that certainly took the tone in a different direction and, you know, i think ultimately at the end of the day, that made things a lot harder for hillary when, ultimately, she got the mike she had some very funny things that she had said and i don't think they got as many laughs as they could have because the tone in the room had shifted a bit. >> were people left uncomfortable after that? i got that sense after watching on tv that after that moment from donald trump people weren't laughing quite as hard. some of the joy was gone. >> the room did get a little uncomfortable. that line in a room full of predominantly catholics didn't go over well. >> you were sitting on the floor looking up at all the people sitting there. there were comments, would they shake hands? ultimately they did shake hands afterwards. if you could grade sort of the physical comfort level between the candidates, hillary clinton and donald trump, cardinal dolan sitting between them over the course of the night. you know, one being extremely comfortable and ten being

extremely uncomfortable. what grade would you give it? >> you know, i would say it changed throughout the night. i would say in the beginning it was pretty friendly. i would say more on a six or seven. i did see them shake hands before most did. the camera may have even panned. but cardinal dolan did a great job of bringing them together and certainly my dad's hume right out of the gates leveled the playing field and, you know, made it a nice, warm presence to start. my dad took control very early on and lightened the room. >> he was great. your father was terrific. hats off to both the candidates for trying to make people laugh. great to have you with us and congratulations on the record-setting haul last night, over $6 million. so important for catholic charities. >> thank you for having me, john. donald trump called hillary clinton a "nasty woman" during the debate. how did female voters hear that? our all female political panel

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it may be women who decide this presidential election 18 days from now. hillary clinton at the moment has a significant advantage over donald trump among female voters and her supporters have now turned this debate moment into a rallying cry. >> my social security payroll contribution will go up, as will donald's, assuming he can't figure out how to get out of it. what we want to do is to replenish. >> such a nasty woman. >> such a nasty woman. let's bring in cnn political commentator margaret hoover and "washington times" columnist former miss ohio 2014 and trump

supporter jesse. great to see all of you ladies for all our female panel. such a nasty woman. what happened since then twitter with all sorts of people using the hashtag, i am a nasty woman because i don't feel empowered by tearing people down. i know a women's intelligence, experience are more important than her looks. what does that comment that he said about a nasty woman. does this have any impact on the election? >> it goes to a narrative that already exists wh s which is a on feminism on double standards between men and women. you see this when young boys display characteristics of leadership and young girls who display the same characteristics are called bossy. the same thing happens with men. men who have assertive, aggressive are leaders and women with the same characterists are

called the b-word. that nasty woman comment sort of channeled the pushback against the b-word and women who, frankly, are successful. so, that's what this has sort of caug and it has hit what was an already dominant stream in the conversation. >> to that point, kerstin, does it galvanize something that didn't exist in terms of voters or reinforcing what margaret said people already thought? >> well, i think women were already galvanized, but i think it certainly helps. it was a moment, i think, for a lot of women when you watched that especially when -- let's be honest. she wasn't being nasty. she took a dig at him on something that was true, he hadn't paid taxes in a long time and you compare to margaret's point about the double standard. you compare that to a very personal attacks he makes against her constantly and constant interrupting and

constant put downs against her which, for the most part, sort of rises above and takes it. when she sort of takes a little dig at him, suddenly she's a nasty woman. it's this idea, like margaret was saying, somehow a woman who acts in any way that would be, you know, considered too aggressive or getting out of her place and it was a moment where you could see him just trying to really sort of put her in her place. and i think for a lot of women, that's extremely offensive. >> madison, how did you hear it? >> yes, there is this double standard. at the debate i didn't think this is so much a double standard. donald trump has never been politically correct. these are things he would say to a woman or a man. >> would he say such a nasty man? >> absolutely. i think he would say that and i think he is known to say that about many people throughout the last year. we're focusing on these two words but not focusing on the actions of hillary clinton that

would back up the secret service agents or maybe the way she talked about monica lewinsky in the '90s? >> what did she call her? >> a narcissistic looneyen to in the ' 90s. >> in a private conversation -- >> that's still a nasty thing to say about somebody. >> not that nasty, just to start. i want to start right there. >> you think it's more nasty to call someone nasty than to call someone a nar cystic looney toon. >> i want to stick to facts on this. >> go ahead, make your point, kirstin. >> she had a private conversation with one of her friends. you are now telling me that women are not allowed to have a private conversation with a friend, which was never meant to be public. became public because this friend's information went to a library. it wasn't even necessarily meant to be public. just to be clear, women are not allowed to have private conversation with their friends

and talk about a woman who had an affair with her husband. >> no, that's not at all what i'm saying. that's what you're saying. >> hold on. answer that now. >> what i'm saying this was a private conversation but now has become public. just like donald trump's leaked audio from 2005. >> are you comparing that to the things he said about hillary clinton? >> yes. what is the difference between the two? so he can't talk but she can in private? >> the way he attacks her health, the way he attacks her personally, constantly. it never stops. you are seriously comparing a private conversation with a friend about a woman who had an affair with her husband to the way donald trump talks about hillary. >> it's just two words, as you say, but it does seem to represent or maybe it doesn't, but the feeling, the way people took it is that it was a larger feeling about how he treats women. i know that hasn't been your experience in dealing with him.

but there are examples of him objectifying women. >> i had a very positive experience with mr. trump, as you know. the most important thing when we're talking about women voters are the issues and that's a decision that women voters need to make and they will make. they're going to vote for the candidate that they feel most aligned with whether that's donald trump or hillary clinton, that's their decision to make and we should empower women to make these decisions and look at the facts. >> the think is going into this election polls had donald trump winning, losing independent women 2-1. i'm running independent expenditure ads and we're looking only at independent women and democratic leaning women. in nevada, pennsylvania, new hampshire, ohio, these numbers were already very bad for donald trump. >> you mean at the start. at the get go they were bad and they have not gotten better. >> this is the kind of

conversation that will make the bottom fall out. hillary clinton is winning by double digits, historic numbers. close to 20 points. that is what is looking like it will propel her over the finish line. that is, by the way, a self-inflicted wound by donald trump. >> you looked at all the different subgroups, margaret, and all the different demographics. women are not a monoliffic group. when you break it down into other sub groups. >> this is a very specific example in nevada. but there are 20 sub groups of women that we polled in nevada. the only sub group that is coming out even for donald trump or republican women, you have single women, college educated women, african-american women, latino women, women with children at home, women who work, women who don't work. very high single digits, double digits. >> yet, donald trump does have very effective female surrogates. you have madison here and hisser

on the campaign trail that always talk with respect he has treated women who work for him. let me play what ivanka said yesterday. >> he is not politically correct. and i think that we love that about him, right? 97% of the time. but, look, politically correct. the word political is in there, right? he's not a politician. people have learned to navigate and, you know, say one thing and do another with what my father, what you see is what you get. what you hear is what you get. >> kirstin, people do like ivanka and think she's accomplished and poised and the fact that she is out on the campaign trail and keeps standing up for him and talking about what a great boss and father he is. do you think that's effective? >> there's nothing that she can do at this point to reverse what

is happening with him among women because people are voting for donald trump and not voting for ivanka. the other issue is because a woman hasn't experienced donald trump either sexually harassing them or even sexually attacking them doesn't mean that it didn't happen to other women. i interviewed donald trump two times. he didn't do anything inappropriate to me. that doesn't mean that he didn't do anything appropriate to other women and i think that this is just, the fact that people say that is just very concerning to me because it's a way to kind of dismiss other women who have had experiences. obviously a man can't harass every women he comes in contact with, right? it's just not -- so that doesn't mean that these other people weren't harassed. >> great point. kirstin, margaret, madison, thank you very much. thanks for the conversation. john? remarkable moment and a troubling one in u.s. foreign policy. did the united states just lose a key military ally? that's next. but, first, this sunday at

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the president of the philippines announced separation from the united states. this was during a visit to china. his advisors are now trying to clarify what he meant. the white house says no formal request has been made. i'm joined now by cnn chief correspondent jim sciutto. first, jim, let me play the sound of what duterte said. it is remarkable. listen. >> i announce my separation from the united states. economics, also. and maybe i would also go to russia and tell him that there are three of us against the

world. china, philippines -- >> this is a remarkable slap in the face from a country that had been a key u.s. ally. and to do it in china at the same time, jim. >> no, i mean, remarkable, diplomat iic divorce there. just for context, philippines is arguably one of america's closest allies or was in the world. certainly in asia. i mean, this is an alliance that predates the alliance with japan. philippines was a u.s. colony the first half of the century and not just a historical thing. the u.s. and the philippines right in the middle of it now in a major dispute with china. chine ha has been grabbing all this land and, in fact, the manufacturing islands in the middle of the south china sea including parts of that sea claimed by the philippines. the u.s. has been backing up the philippines and basing more troops there, flying spy plane flights out of there. i flew on one out of the philippines. the u.s. has been helping the philippines in this battle and

now the philippines has gone to the other side. >> this is eight years in, jim, to what was supposed to be the asia pivot by the obama administration. and you lose what could be one of your most key military allies in the region. what is the impact going forward? >> it's a major, i mean, on obama's legacy, you remember that the asian pivot. he was going to rebalance our resources from the middle east. the wars in the middle east and say, really, the 21st century is going to be defined in asia and this standoff with china, not just to the south china sea, but on a whole host of issues has been one of the central parts of that pivot. now, you know, you can't really say relations with china are better over the last year, eight years. really gotten worse. the ftpp. transpacific that is on life support here in washington and now a key ally in asia going to the other side. from a legacy perspective for obama, it's really disheartening

to say the least. >> tough moment. all right, jim sciutto, thanks so much. alisyn? back here at home that summer ambush on baton rouge police came to an end thanks to one officer who today is still fighting to survive. so, we have his story of going beyond the call of duty, next. every time i travel, it's the moments that are most rewarding. ♪ because if you let yourself embrace them, you'll never forget them. the new marriott portfolio of hotels now has 30 brands in over 110 countries. so no matter where you go, you are here. join or link accounts at members.marriott.com.

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the baton rouge officer gets a call of a gunman targeting officer. he rushes to the scene. three of his colleagues already killed when he ariefs he is also shot. cnn's ed lavandera has this week's "beyond the call of duty." >> the vicious ambush pierced through the heart of baton rouge. three officers killed by a lone gunman on a quiet sunday morning. but as the story has faded from the headlines, one officer who answered the call to take down an active shooter targeting cops is skill fighting for his life. >> nick's a fighter. you know. we believe in him. he believes in himself. and nick's not ready to go. >> east baton rouge sheriff's deputy nick tullier is in a coma. he survived more than a dozen surgeries after he was shot three times. once in the head and twice in the abdomen. >> his heart stopped four times in e.r. and they brought him back four

times. >> tullier's father james said doctors first told him that his son wouldn't survive a day. then two days. then five. now it's been more than 95 days and nick tullier is still breathing. he's defied every odd. >> everybody claims this was the place that miracles happen. and we hope so. he's passed everything they've thrown at him already and he's still here. >> the night before the ambush nick tullier was driving home when he noticed tyla carter and her daughter stranded on the side of the road with a flat tire. tullier stopped, put his patrol car spare tire on their car and followed them home to make sure they arrived safely. his friends say that's the kind of officer tullier is. >> i think it goes back to his moral compass. and it's always pointing due north. >> since the ambush tullier's mother, father, and fiancee have not left his side. they're waiting for him to wake from this long coma.

but tullier's son struggles with the questions that have no answers. >> what's going to happen in the future? like, am i still going to have a father that's going to be able to, you know, have conversations with me? are we going to be able to hang out anymore? you know. >> if he survives, nick tullier will likely never patrol the baton rouge streets again. but for his family, tullier's refusal to give up, to keep breathing, is a miracle. ed lavandera, cnn, baton rouge, louisiana. >> it is a miracle. what a story. i'm so glad that we feature those on fridays. the "beyond the call of duty" they're so important for everybody to see. all right, meanwhile back to politics. donald trump and hillary clinton's ongoing controversy made for some good material at last night's al smith dinner. but it was also quite barbed.

let's discuss this with cnn political commentator carl bernstein the author of a woman in charge the life of hillary rodham clinton. we also have bill kristol the editor of the weekly standard. you want to start with a little levity? >> sure. >> something funny -- >> let's do that. let's play a little moment from last night. >> here she is tonight, in public, pretending not to hate catholics. everyone knows, of course, hillary's belief that it takes a village. which only makes sense after all in places like haiti, where she's taken a number of them. >> i am so flattered that donald thought i used some sort of performance enhancer. now, actually, i did. it's called preparation.

but donald really is as healthy as a horse. you know, the one vladimir putin rides around on. >> i think i misrepresented that montage. those weren't the moments of levity. those were the barbed ones. what did you make of what we saw last night? >> this is an annual dinner that raises money for catholic charities as she discussed earlier with al smith. it's like endless generations of al smiths. nice to meet him. and you're supposed to have self-deprecating humor. i went back and looked for five minutes this morning at mccain and obama in 2008 and romney and obama in 2008 -- 2012 and they were excellent. and hillary clinton wasn't very good. she's not great at being witty, and doesn't have that much of a self-deprecating gene so she was not so good but trump was awful. i mean trump doesn't even understand the idea of self-deprecating humor. >> he doesn't like to poke fun at himself. >> you think? >> yeah. >> he's incapable of it. and in fact, it goes back to who

this person is. i mean, let's -- what is his campaign about? this campaign is now about a o neofascist i keep coming back to that sociopath. that's where we are. and what interests me at this point, because it seems apparent he's going to lose, barring some really big surprise, is how and why 80%, 90% of people who call themselves republicans can continue to support this man and this movement, no matter how much they hate hillary clinton. it does not speak well for the republican party and those who call themselves republicans. >> so, carl -- so bill carl was looking right at you when he said that -- >> you don't support donald trump. you're saying 80%, 90% of your party does. >> ideology and party loyalty counts for a lot among people and they can rationalize i think his character flaws. most who i know are reluctantly voting for him don't like him or respect him much but they think we'll have better justices

appointed, his advisers will keep him in check. i remember as a republican wondering how can people re-elect teddy kennedy after chappaquiddick. we talk about character flaws. you sort of wragsalize he's an important voice in the senate, he's fighting for my issues. i think it's sort of similar to that. i wish -- having said that i think it's very important that i wish more republicans had fully separated from trump. i still hope they do over the next two weeks. maybe on this election rigging issue. and it's very important to have as clean a break as possible on november 9th. the trouble is it's hard to have as clean a break on november 9th if you haven't had a break before november 8th. >> carl you said that it looks like he's not going to win. 18 days is a long time and in this election cycle it's an eternity. anything can happen in 18 days. and in fact there is a little tease coming from wikileaks that suggests that there will be even more of an october surprise let me read it to you. they say we have a surprise in store for tim kaine and donna brazile. they are threatening that there will be new things that will be

disqualifying for them. >> again, it's, it's about surrogates. it would have to be something really amazing about hillary clinton for it to be determinative in the election. i think the most interesting thing going on right now is trump saying that he may not, you know, go along with the -- with the results of this election. what does it really mean? it means, i think, the he is setting himself up as the head of again i'm going to go back to that neofascist term of a real neofascist movement and media empire with the people from breitbart, businesses are going in to the tank as a result of where he has come out in this election, and -- and there's talks going on, i think we know about that, about a media empire, and is there going to be remnants of a neofascist movement that he leads in this country after this election? it's a dangerous thing. we're in a dangerous place.

>> and you can't stop him from doing whatever he does but it's very important that republican governors, republican secretaries of state, republican elected officials over the next two weeks tell the truth which is whatever tiny, you know, issues that come up in elections but that the process is not rigged. if there are recounts, there are recounts. that happens -- >> bill, what about the media? because i've heard some people say that you've had some issues, with how the media has covered donald trump over the last 15 months. >> i don't know what you're referring to. >> some people say, bill -- >> i don't know. you can't control what people say. getting back to the republican governor, it is important, honestly, really, you do not want to -- one of the great things about america actually is our elections. there's no national board of elections that the president of the united states, barack obama doesn't say let's do this in terms of monitoring elections. you guys vote, there are volunteers who work as election officials, monitors, people from both parties. it's a great thing which is why it's very hard to rig a national election. and to rig the system -- >> but it -- >> and it's very irresponsible

of trump to be saying these things and it damages i mean i think it will be widely repudiated but i still very much dislike the rigging the system. >> but still, very quickly, to carl's point it doesn't mean that the feelings, the strong feelings go away on november 9th and the people who supported trump don't go away if he were to lose and so something might happen after the election and it's hard to put your finger -- >> -- a real movement. this is -- this is -- this is not just 20%, 30% of the people in the country that are going along with this stuff. >> right now it's 42%. >> 42, the majority are just republicans who will be happy he'll go. i'm hopeful it will be a smaller movement. he'll do what he does. but i'm hopeful it will be a smaller movement on november 9th. >> on that optimistic note, thank you very much. >> we are following a lot of news this morning. let's get right to it. >> i will totally accept the results, if i win. >> that is dangerous. that undermines our democracy. >> it's amazing i'm up here after