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remember, folks, it's a rigged system. that's why you've got to get out and vote. you've got to watch, because this system is totally rigged. >> make no mistake, but doing that, he is threatening our democracy. >> we still have a path to 270 through several different ways. >> we will win. we will shock the world. this is going to be brexit plus. >> we know in our country the difference between leadership and dictatorship. >> wave bunch of babies running
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our country, folks. they're losers, they're babies. >> i wish we were in high school and i could take him behind the gym. >> good morning. so grateful to have your company on this saturday. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> a huge day on the campaign trail for the clinton and trump campaigns with rallies planned in a host of states. we'll get to that in a moment. but right now, breaking news in iraq. right now there's a fierce firefight underway in a town six miles north of that isis stronghold. just months ago, they launched a full scale operation to take back another city to the southeast. >> all of this as we learn 40 people were killed and dozens wounded in an isis counterattack in kirkuk. cnn international correspondent darwa damon is joining us live from iraq. darwa, what are you learning about how these forces are
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pushing into iraq. >> reporter: good morning to both of you. now, that push to the north, that's actually the closest that the iraqi security forces have gotten to the city of mosul itself. and then you do have these advances on multiple different fronts. in some instances, they're able to push forward faster than others, but the closer, broadly speaking, that these various different groups have gotten to the city of mosul itself, the tougher, as expected, the fight is becoming. not just in terms of the ongoing clashes that exist, but isis, repeatedly using those suicide car bombers, not just launching them at troops as they're advancing, but in some instances, hiding them in these towns, and they be deploying them once troops are busy setting up their defensive positions. and you also have this isis counterattack, that happened in the city of kirkuk. a city that, relatively speaking, has been fairly quiet, away from the bulk of the
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fighting. but isis yesterday launching about 30 to 40 of its militants in a multi-pronged attack, engaging the kurdish security forces there in a battle that engaged yesterday and is still ongoing today with clashes breaking out. it's isis the demonstrating its capabilities that even though, yes, it is under intense pressure in and around mosul, it can still launch these kind of counterattacks, using sleeper cells and also embedding some of its agents amongst the refugees, which creates problems on so many multiple scales. forces are now having to, they say, search refugees again, even those that do exist and are already at the camp. they're going to have to go through more stringent searches of those who are trying to flee. and of course, it makes the whole process that much more difficult. because imagine being a civilian. imagine running away from these horrors with your family and
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just wants to reach safety and being subjected to these kinds of searches. i want just further makes the psychological process of it all that much more difficult. and we're still only in the initial phases of this battle. >> all righty. thank you, arwa damon. we appreciate it so much. i want to point out, you're looking at live pictures here near mosul. also want to let you know, we've gotten word, defense secretary ash carter has arrived in baghdad this morning. this is a surprise visit for him. he will be meeting with troops and the iraqi prime minister. we'll have more on that as we learn more throughout the morning. final dash now to the finish line in the race for president. both candidates have packed schedules this weekend. today, hillary clinton and running mate tim kaine will be in pennsylvania a few hours. donald trump will be in gettysburg, where he'll make what he's calling his closing arguments, outlining a ten-point plan for his first 100 days in office. >> his choice of venue, the same city where abe lincoln made his
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famous speech, uniting the country during a time of war. and a tense situation for the clinton campaign when they received a package with a white powdery substance. initial tests on that powder have come back negative for harmful substances. >> cnn's brynn gingras is following this situation. tell us more about this. we know the trump campaign was sent a white powder in april? >> reporter: that's right, this has happened before to campaigns. at this point, we don't know who sent this letter to the clinton campaign, so we don't know the motivations behind it, but certainly put the clinton campaign and headquarters here, all their staff on high alert. according to the nypd, a letter was sent to the campaign's midtown manhattan offices. that letter made its way here to brooklyn, that's where it was opened by some of the staff members and the white powdery substance found. and that's when authorities were
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called in. among them, the secret service, the nypd, the office of emergency management. and those tests did show that that substance was not hazardous. but even still, according to law enforcement, they had to evacuate one of the floors of the clinton campaign headquarters here in downtown brooklyn. we do know that according to the clinton campaign, everyone is doing okay. they released a statement saying the four individuals involved have reported no health issues and following a full examination by medical personnel were each referred to go home. our office remained open throughout this period and will remain open without interruption tomorrow morning. of course, she has a busy day, as you guys just mentioned, as well as donald trump today campaigning. back to you guys. >> all right. brynn gingras for us there, thank you so much. hillary clinton facing more mounting trouble after wikileaks purportedly released another round of her campaign's e-mails. we'll tell you what was learned from that. and now donald trump is
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>> he said, because i'm famous, because i'm a star, because i'm a billionaire, i can do things other people can't. what a disgusting assertion for anyone to make. the press always asks me, don't i wish i were debating him? no, i wish we were in high school and i could take him behind the gym. that's what i wish. >> so biden's comments came at a sharp criticism for the trump campaign. his campaign manager, kellyanne conway, suggesting double standards in that tweet. she said, had trump said this, it would be hair on fire breaking news with "violence" and "bully" trending high school psychologists on tv panels. so that's part of the conversation this morning, getting a lot of attention. >> and we'll talk about that in just a moment.
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you know, there are some voters who are worried whatever the outcome of the election, there could be some violence after the results are revealed. cnn's martin savage spoke to some of those voters who are concerned outside a trump rally in north carolina. >> reporter: clarence bartlett is no fan of democrats. >> blame democrats and all them takes has ruined this country. and we're trying to get it back. >> reporter: outside this trump rally near asheville, north carolina, i asked him, what's going to happen in trump wins? his answer's a shock. >> oh, they'll kill him if he gets elected. that's how bad they are. they're the most evilist people i've ever seen. lie and deny. >> reporter: who would kill him? >> well, the democrats, the ones that's trying to cause rights and everything. it's obvious. it's in the news. >> reporter: bartlett isn't the only one predicting violence. janette stangl thinks it can happen if trump loses. >> personally, i think it can turn into a civil war. >> reporter: you really think that? >> absolutely.
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first of all, i think that we're going to have terrorist attacks. and we have all of these protests and all of that. so i think people are going to be very upset. >> reporter: i found ann brooks quietly waiting in line. she's a clinton supporter and proof trump backers don't hold the monopoly on ugly talk. what are you doing here? >> i think i wanted to experience what it's like to be in the room with a sociopath. >> reporter: i asked if she's willing to live with a trump victory? >> i might move to canada, truly. truly. because i think there will be blood in the streets. i really do think that's going to happen. i think it may happen either way. >> reporter: who would cause that? >> i think either side could. >> reporter: as troubling as this talk is, most they speak to say they do not expect violence. when this campaign is over, do you think as a nation we can come back together again? >> oh, we have to. this is the greatest country in the world? >> reporter: do you think in the nation we can heal, we can get
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over what has been a very hard-fought campaign. >> i would hope so. i mean, i would hope so. i mean, i'm not a vicious person. >> reporter: but it has been a vicious campaign. with some of the strongest, crudest, and ugliest language in living political memory. most recently when trump interjected in the last debate -- >> such a nasty woman. >> so you think the depiction "nasty woman" in this case fit? >> i -- well, i wouldn't come out and say it, but if the shoe fits, wear it. >> reporter: one thing is clear, healing won't begin until the election is over. and with more than two weeks to go, there is still plenty of nasty out there. >> reporter: we've been asking people about the tenor of the campaign. >> you guys are the pigs. >> now, wait a minute, that's not nice. >> so it's the sort of stuff like that. >> martin savage, cnn, fletcher, north carolina. >> so the question is, can a u.s. unite?
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can the country heal amid all of this. that's why donald trump is heading to gettysburg. >> let's talk about with cnn's political commentator, errol louis and abby phillip, national political reporter of "the washington post." thank you both for getting up so early on a saturday morning to talk to us. i want to circle back real quickly to what vice president biden said and the criticism of those statements. abby, is the criticism valid? >> i think, you know, given how prominent bullying as an issue has been in this campaign, i think you're right that the trump campaign is clearly going to jump on this, because, you know, joe biden, especially when he's close to his hometown in scranton, pennsylvania, he tends to kind of revert back to sort of that mind-set. but on the campaign trail, i don't think it's entirely appropriate. and i think the trump campaign is probably within its rights to say something. at the same time, it's unlikely to really make a big wave in this campaign.
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we are in that 17 days before election day, there are really explosive things happening at the principle level with both trump and clinton, and i think this doesn't really rank very high on that list. >> mm-hmm. errol, i want to play some sound here of donald trump's speech last night, in case people missed it. he called the country's leaders babies and loser, took at shot at first lady michelle obama. let's listen here. >> we have a bunch of babies running our country, folks. we have a bunch of losers. they're losers, they're babies. we have a president, all he wants to do is campaign. his wife, all she wants to do is campaign. and i see how much his wife likes hillary. but wasn't she the one that o l originally started the state, "if you can't take care of your home," right? you can't take care of the white house or the country. where's that? i don't hear that. i don't hear that. >> errol, what's your reaction
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to that? >> a first fact check, first of all. the reference he's making to michelle obama. if she's actually listen to it, she's saying the opposite of what he's implying there. it was not an attack on the clintons, it was a description of how she and her husband, president obama, would take care of their family, make sure they would do what they could to be home at night and make sure the kids' school life was not disrupted. when donald trump goes into these slashing attacks, he's doing what has led him to the low poll he's now reached in the polls, because lots of other people are watching. he can get a rise out of the crowd in front of him, which might be 15,000 people, but there are tens of millions of people who are watching, who clearly don't like that. so any hoech getting undecided voters, swing voters, he's kind of throwing it away with speeches like that. >> abby, one of the other things
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we've heard from him really in the last 48 hours that we hadn't heard so much before is him saying things look, we need you. we need you to go to the polls. we need you to get out there and vote and turn this thing around. that's a quote. "to turn this thing around." do you get a sense that donald trump is not as dismissive of these poll numbers we're seeing now as he indicates he is? >> he's absolutely coming to terms with the reality that he's in a very difficult spot electorally, and it's something that he is not going to be able to sort of wake up one morning and then it goes away. so donald trump is, in some ways, coming to terms with that by asking his supporters to come out. but in other ways, he's also giving them some semblance of false hope. he's talking a lot, you know, about some kind of surprise or people being surprised by the outcome, but that's just not the way that elections work. you don't just wake up and everything the next day is
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completely different. and he has a widespread problem now electorally with the map. i think, slowly, but surely, he's going to have to communicate that to his supporters. >> so errol, the polls during the primary not exactly on target. nobody saw some of the things coming that the polls were saying. do you think there are closet voters, who may not admit publicly, yeah, i'm going to vote for donald trump, but once they get in that little booth, it's just them and their conscience? >> that is a very slim reed of hope that the trump campaign is hanging on to right now. there's no evidence that that's how things happen. in fact, if anything, what you find is donald trump has underperformed in his polls. up until he won the new york primary, at that point, basically sort of shut out all of his competitors in the primary season, he would underperform. he would come in typically two to five points under where the
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polls suggested he would come in. so i don't see any reason to expect that. now, look, anything can happen, and he's going to try to make this case that he has somehow found them. but the way that he campaigns sort of argues against that, as well. he doesn't use close analytics and go through subscriptions and find people who might be more in league with his message but tend not to vote. that's not been the kind of campaign he's run. so if it's gong to work, i don't think the campaign can be certain about that anymore than anyone else can. >> all right, always appreciate you lending your voice to us. thank. >> sure. well, there's a new batch of embarrassing leaked e-mails for the clinton campaign. wikileaks purportedly revealing a strange relationship between hillary clinton and former vice president al gore. if you're going to make a statement... make sure it's an intelligent one. ♪ the highly advanced audi a4, with available virtual cockpit.
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well, wikileaks is keeping its pledge, it seems, to target hillary clinton, purportedly unleashing yet another round of hacked e-mails from her campaign. >> yes, but is there anything in this latest batch that could change the state of this race? here's cnn senior washington correspondent, jeff zeleny. >> victor and christi, ohio has been one of the most stubborn battlegrounds for hillary clinton. one of the so-called obama states where the president won twice and she has been struggling. advisers to clinton say share increasingly confident about their prospects, even as they weather one more round of wikileaks distractions. >> i have now spent 4 1/2 hours on stage with donald proving
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once again i have the stamina to be president. >> reporter: hillary clinton back on the campaign trail in cleveland. her face-to-face showdowns with donald trump behind her. clinton is hoping to capitalize on her rising momentum, and trying to turn a positive corner. >> i know you may still have questions for me. i respect that. i want to answer them. i want to earn your vote. i am reaching out to all americans, democrats, republicans, and independents. >> reporter: yet she's hardly resting easy, as her campaign braces for more fallout from e-mails stolen from campaign chair, john podesta. another batch from wikileaks, confirming bad blood between clinton and al gore after he declined to endorse her last fall. huma abedin writing, heart to put on e-mail, but there is no love lost in this relationship. she added later, no, it's bad. clinton says that's all in the past, pointing to gore's appearance last week in miami. >> i can't wait to have al gore
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advising me when i am president of the united states. >> reporter: the e-mails also exposing questions about whether secretary clinton would attend a clinton foundation summit in morocco, a month after announcing her bid for the presidency. the e-mails suggest her appearance was in exchange for a $12 million contribution from the king of morocco. beginning, abedin writing, it would break a lot of china now to break out when we had so many opportunities to do it in the past few months. she created this mess and she knows it. in the end, clinton did not go. the clinton campaign hoping to drown out these distractions with a powerful new television ad. it features khizr khan, the gold star father who spoke at the democratic convention about his son, a muslim american who died served in iraq. >> i want to ask mr. trump, would my son have a place in your america? >> reporter: now, hillary
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clinton is hitting the campaign trail this weekend with her running mate, tim kaine, something she has rarely done, working saturdays and sundays on the road. she will be holding rallies today in pittsburgh and pennsylvania and heading to north carolina tomorrow. the clinton campaign is focusing on early voting, trying to capture this momentum now, to ward off any sense of an october surprise. victor and christi? >> all right, jeff, thank you so much. we just want to remind you, cnn cannot independently verify the authenticity of the wikileaks e-mails. a massive cyberattack was partly carried out by infiltrating devices. maybe you have one in your home right now. we're talking about hundreds of thousands of dvr machines and web cams that were taken over by m malware. the attack caused widespread t outages online. a number of popular websites went down. the fbi is investigating, but so far, no one has pointed a finger at any particular group or nation. so what exactly led to this cyberbreach? we'll have a live report, coming
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up in just a few moments. also, polls right now showing hillary clinton in a prime position to win the white house, but there are a lot of things at play right now. we're going to talk about potential political pitfalls, next. broadway set designer. sort of fallen in love with this computer, i can flip it... ...around and flip through images, and then i can use it... ...as a tablet. go in and work on the details. i could never do that with a mac.
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both candidates are out, talking to voters. hillary clinton and tim kaine campaigning together in pittsburgh and philadelphia today. >> donald trump, in fact, also swinging through that state this morning. his campaign says he's going to outline his first 100 days in office. he'll do so in a speech in gettysburg a few hours from now. of course, election day is almost so close, you can almost see it, at least on the calendar. donald trump in his weakest political position of his entire presidential campaign, some say. new national polls show hillary clinton's gained a sizable lead since that first debate and it's not looking much better for trump in some of these key battleground states we're looking at. cnn's john king clues us into the state of the race. >> it is an understatement and dramatically so to say the debate season has not been kind to donald trump. let's go back in play. this was the state of play september 26th, the first presidential debate at hofstra on long island. cnn poll of polls, a statistical
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dead heat. donald trump was moving up. the average was a two-point clinton lead. that was september 26th, the fu first debate. look at where we are today. a nine-point lead for clinton. in polarized america, she has a nine-point lead heading into the third and final debate. and it dramatically reshapes the map that matters most. here's where we were on the day of the first debate. we still had secretary clinton at and above the finish line. the dark blue and light blue states, she was at 272. but at that point, back then, donald trump was leading or tied in nevada, lead organize tied in florida, leading or tied in north carolina, leading or tied in ohio. he was in the hunt, he had momentum, he was closing this gap. if you added all that up, he was in the 260 range and making a race of this. but this is now where cnn has the electoral map heading into third and final debate. arizona and utah, two ruby red republican state s woob we've
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pulled them back from trump and put them in the toss-up column. secretary clinton above 300 electoral votes and on a path to where president obama was in his two overwhelming electoral college victories. you cannot understate the shift in this map in the debate season. hillary clinton now in excess of what she needs to win. and she's in play in north carolina, a slight lead. ohio's about a tie. and these two states, the clinton campaign is beginning to test whether utah and arizona could actually go democratic. >> all right, thank you, john. joining me now, cnn political commentator and donald trump supporter, scottie nell hughes, good morning to both of you. >> good morning, victor. >> scottie, i want to start with you. let's put up the poll of polls that has clinton ahead by eight points here, just 17 days from the election. we've heard a lot of rhetoric from donald trump about, if i lose, this will be a waste.
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if i lose, it's rigged. he may still believe that he can win, but kellyanne conway is a pollster. is this a campaign that still believes trump can win? >> polls are like family members at thanksgiving dinner. some you like, some you don't, and there's always a few surprises at the end. with everything that's come out, he should be overwhelmingly winning, but he's not. but there are some polls, yes, cnn polls, i get it, but the investor business daily came out and put trump up by one point, ras mussen up by two. and in key states like indiana and georgia and utah, he is winning states i heard many members in the media bragging, these are going to go left. we have two weeks left in a race that's highly volatile. and i definitely think there's a lot of optimism still to go. >> you're naming states that are typically safely in the republican column, but this year are, at some point, something
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that the democrats thought they could pick off. let me come to you, scott, i want you to listen to what kelly ann conway told erin burnett last night. >> we feel that when voters see this is a competitive race, that we still have a path to 270 through several different ways, several different angles, they see donald trump out there, he's promised, erin, to have a very punishing schedule these last 18 days. we just went over the schedule today. i can tell you it is going to be punishing. he wants to leave it all on the field and give it his best shot. >> we know that kellyanne chooses her words carefully, saying a very punishing schedule, and we found that clinton has been on the campaign trail less frequently than other two nominees in the last cycle. conway's argument is the more people see hillary clinton instead of those high-name and high-profile surrogates, therm why th they remember why they dislike her. that's her argument. you say what? >> i think kellyanne is reading
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the poll numbers, as well. listen, this has been a long campaign. we've seen a lot of donald trump. this system arenisn't rigged. hillary clinton has been on the trail, but she's got some super surrogates on the trail, too, and the numbers are what the numbers are. the key is, notwithstanding donald trump, hays got to get ohio and florid to get to the political promised land. the reality is, while he's competitive there, he's not -- she -- hillary clinton, is very competitive in traditional red states and she's got a ground game that makes her even more competitive in those states. not only does donald trump have to compete in ohio and florida, the pathway to victory, but he's also got to devote time and resources in traditionally red states. it's just not looking good for him. >> let's talk about donald trump's own gettysburg address later today, going to the site of where, of course, president lincoln made that speech that we all know so well. scottie, first to you. the choice of gettysburg, where
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the president tried to unify a divided country and can donald trump has been talking about division and has been blamed for many of the divisions. as a supporter, you read what out of the choice of the location, the site for today's address? >> well, i find it interesting you say that he's talked about division. or that he's actually divided. i think it's actually the common themes of economic freedom and providing for our families and protecting our families has been something that's been unifying for all americans. now, the message of the left is to sit there and say that we are a splintered country and that donald trump is splintering us. but the truth is, i think there's one thing that all americans have in common. and that's the idea of the american dream, that we should be able to provide for our own and have jobs and our communities be stable. that's a very unifying message right there and i think it's very appropriate he's going to gettysburg today, where the ethics speech was given by president lincoln about unity.
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that's the great thing we have about social media and 24-hour news cycles, that anything can change. anything can come out. and we are a country that's well divided underneath president obama and i think he can deliver a great message today. >> scott? >> well, donald trump is the great divider. and those topics and issues that scottie just talked about are important if donald trump talked more about them. and yet he talks about groping women. he talks about mexicans and muslims in a very negative way, and he is the worst message and the worst one to talk about unifying this country. it's a problem, because you can't get past those bucket of deplorables to talk about those real policy issues that really, quite frankly, scottie's right, could unite all americans. but because of his message, you can't have -- you've got to look at the total package. you can't just look at the issues he's talked about, because you look at the issues he's attacked. >> scott, you pointed out there a time where hillary clinton herself was criticized for
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dividing american by identifying half of trump's supporters as a basket of deplorables. so each candidate has their own story to tell. >> well, she certainly apologized -- >> she did apologize for saying "half." scott bolden and scottie nell hughes, thank you both. we'll continue the conversation. >> thank you. next, top political and geographical changes among asian american voters are shifting the battlegrounds for the presidential election. mornin'. hey, do you know when the game starts? 11 hours.
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vote that could certainly impact this election. >> this week, i traveled to florida to talk to some of those voters about their feelings on the candidates, voter outreach, and the issues that are driving the voters to the polls. on the campus of the university of north florida, politics is the topic of the day. and most of these students will be voting for hillary clinton. >> i think, ultimately, like her vision for the united states, it kind of aligns with my vision of like open mindedness, kind of accepting everyone. >> reporter: justin and his friends are at the leading edge of a seismic political shift among asian american voters, from once-reliable republican votes to a democratic stronghold. in the 1992 three-way race, george h.w. bush earned 55% of the asian american vote. three years later, democratic president barack obama got 73% over mitt romney. >> we have never seen a swing like that for any group.
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>> reporter: he is the director of the national asian american survey. >> democrats are far more likely to be reaching out to these voters than republicans. we also saw bill clinton do a lot in terms of outreach activity and also nominating asian americans. >> reporter: democrats hope that outreach will pay off this year, as asian american voters could have an oversized impact in november. >> there are these new destination states, states like florida and other states like north carolina, that are now battleground states for the presidency. these are the states where you have newer asian american populations and they're growing very rapidly. >> reporter: at the top of the list, jacksonville, florida. it's mostly filipino community has the highest population of asian americans in any of the 2016 battleground states. most analysts say donald trump needs to win florida to win the white house. and it's his job to find the votes. he's with the filipino american republicans of northeast florida. the statistics would show that
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democrats are doing very well recruiting asian americans. >> i think they appear to have very effective recruiting. and i would probably yield to that statement. i guess they have the support of what they hear, meaning the media. so, if there's too much they hear from the media about the democratses, they would lean towards that. >> we've also seen factors on the republican side that have pushed them away. >> reporter: at an august rally, when trump reiterated his proposal to ban immigrants from what he calls terrorist nations, he mentioned the philippines. >> hillary clinton wants to have them come in by the hundreds of thousands. >> reporter: soon after, a philippines lawmaker proposed banning trump from entering their country. >> a majority of asian american registered voters have a very unfavorable view of donald trump. and that should be very
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concerning to the republican party, because it's possible that donald trump will turn off asian american voters even more. >> reporter: a survey found that 59% favor clinton and just 16% favor trump. but there is opportunity for each party here. for these two voters, the choice is less about who they want to be the next president, but more about who they don't. >> are you a trump supporter? >> i am a trump supporter. >> tell me why? >> because i cannot be for hillary. >> are you excited to vote for hillary clinton? >> i wouldn't necessarily say excited. just, i'm excited not to vote for trump. >> reporter: all right, wolf, well 70% of the people surveyed in this group say they have not been contacted by any political party. now, there is one factor here that could impact why the campaigns aren't reaching out to asian american voters, maybe because of the chicken and egg factor here. despite the rapid growth, high levels of education and income,
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i don't know if you've heard about this one, but fury erupts towards a montana judge who sentenced a man to just 60 days in jail for an incestuous rape case. this man, district judge john mccann, imposed a two-month sentence plus probation to a man who repeatedly raped his own 12-year-old daughter. the defendant pled guilty to felony incest. judge mckeon gave him a suspended 30-year sentence that he will not serve as long as he successfully completes probation, including a sex offender treatment program and no unsupervised contact with minors. cnn is not releasing the name of this defendant to protect his victim's identity, but we are talking it over with cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, danny cevallos. so danny, we know that the prosecution recommended a 25-year sentence. this man, with time served, credit, is only going to spend about 43 days in jail. how does this happen? and what is your reaction?
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>> the simple answer is it happened because it's the law. i may surprise you here, christi. we're entering a new era where when judges give out legal sentences authorized by the legislature, there is immediately a change.org petition demanding that they step down or calls for impeachment. the montana legislature allows a sentencing range for this crime of 4 years to 100 years. and then within that, the judge can suspend all but 30 days of a sentence when it comes to incest. so, it appears that as long as he puts his reasons on the record and they're good reasons, under the law, and by that, i mean, what the law allows, this was a legal sentence. and in fact, he could have suspended an additional 30 days and made it even lighter. so while i understand the shock and outrage, the shock and outrage should be directed at the legislature, because our judges are designed to be
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independent from the angers and the disappointment of the rabble. and i know that, because as a defense attorney, i am frequently upset with the sentence a judge gives. >> okay, you upset over this one? >> it does seem like a light sentence, but if you look at montana law, so long as a health care professional testifies that the offender would be better suited for treatment in the community than treatment in prison -- remember, with sex offenders, the vast majority of them will return to the streets. so the question is, what are we going to do with them? are we going to get them the rehabilitation that they need? or are we just going to send them to shawshank, where they could become even worse offenders in prison? sex offenders are a deplorable -- it's a deplorable crime, but they're also a segment of society that are -- they will return to the public, the vast majority of them. >> the other thing that i think was disturbing about this for some people is the fact that the
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victim's mother asked for leniency here. she wrote a statement about the defendant saying that he needs help, he has two sons that still love him. please give him the opportunity on fixing the relationships that he destroyed. he's not a monster, just a man that really screwed up and has been paying in many ways. but when we look at this, what does this say to the victim, danny? >> well, clearly, this is a family that is going to have issues going forward, because this crime has ruptured the familial relationship. and i can only imagine the discomfort and anguish they're going through. but, in terms of a sentencing hearing, where you have family members and where there is demonstrated support in the community for an offender, judges take that into account. and they can take that into account, because at a sentencing hearing, especially with a huge range like this, almost anything can happen. and if it's a legal sentence, it is a legal sentence. >> all right. danny cevallos, we appreciate
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