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judge garland nominated 221 days ago would be the third of barack obama's appointments to the court if the senate were to ever confirm him. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i'll see you neck week. hey, i'm brian stalter and time for reliable sources. special welcome to the viewers here in the united states and around the world on cnn international. we have just 16 days to go until the american election day so today we're asking are journalists writing trump's campaign obituary too premature. the toll it's taking on viewers and reporters. we'll talk about it all with a psychiatrist and something special, a new way to examine trust in media. we can be into this book group
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in nevada and this weekend's big news here at cnn. at&t buying timewarner. i have something to say about news and independence. the media loves nothing more than a good come back story but right now it's hard to find one a. brand-new poll that must make donald trump cringe. it shows a 12-point gap, hillary clinton at 50%, trump at 38% among likely voters. remember the best way to inte interpret polls is average all of them and that's what cnn's poll of poll does. it shows clinton with a nine-point lead nationwide. trump hints he doesn't believe the polls and railing against media bias in the final stage but how is this anything more than the team that thinks it's losing trying to work the rest. let's ask sean spicer. sean, i want to ask you about the abc washington post poll.
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do you believe the poll data we're seeing showing trump almost uniformly behind clinton? >> there is no question. i think we're trailing behind but i think we got the wind in our back to give you the final two weeks. the momentum is with trump and enthusiasm and i think that will propel us to victory in november. >> where do you see signs of the momentum? >> north carolina and florida in particular. if you look at the returns in florida, we're up in terms of absentee ballot and absentee ballot returns by 2% and up over 9% in north carolina. when you look where we were four years ago in terms of early vote, we're up 20,000 more than we were in iowa. we're up 40,000 in ohio. we're up in nevada in terms of where we were historically four years ago. in each one of the areas, you look at where we were and where we are now and huge momentum in the favor and i think again, the interesting thing about this map versus four years ago are states like pennsylvania, iowa, nevada, new hampshire, states that obama won twice.
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trump is in them to win them and that's a very different map than it was four years ago. it's actually more expansive than it was when we did this four years ago. >> most experts would say that the clinton trail has many paths to 270 and trump has a narrow path. would you agree with that assessment? >> sure. i think we said that four years ago. we've known that all along. when you've got big states like new york and california in your column at the beginning, we've got smaller midwest states and areas that aren't as universally republican. so we've got to go and win the vote. again, you have to keep it in context. we've expanded the map this cycle whereas they are on defense in states that obama carried twice. >> let me ask you about what you believe is media bias. we were talking earlier this morning and you say there is evidence of this all over the place. isn't this just working and complaining about the coverage sort of a way to work the rest in fact final weeks of the campaign? >> no, i think there is complaining and explaining.
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for viewers at home, it's what goes on and what has been going on in the media is a disservice and in many cases appalling. >> in what ways? >> as you pointed out at the beginning you pointed out most of the reporters, if you look at the twitter feeds, they are unbelievable activists against trump. they may not like him but the degree to which they are helping hillary is unbelievable. look at the twitter feeds of the new york times or political and the revelations that have come out over the last couple weeks that come through the leaked e-mails in terms of the collusion that's gone on where they are cheering on hillary clinton or providing them copies of their story to edit or review. it is unbelievable. and then the idea that folks in the media go you're just playing the refs. that's not playing the refs. that's calling out fouls. that's calling strikes. when people in the media who are supposed to be reporting the facts start becoming activists for a particular candidate, that deserves to be called out. you look at panels that get put
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on different networks, it's one anti trump person after another, you know, and put on a republican but against trump and call it a balanced panel. when was the last time a panel had a democrat that wasn't for hillary on it. i haven't seen it this cycle. >> there is more unity in the democratic party than republican party there are a lot of anti trump republicans. >> but i bumped into plenty of bernie sanders supporters, millennials who are lifelong democrats that won't vote for hillary clinton. yet, we never hear or see them about. every story -- >> that's a false equivalent -- let me play what donald trump said about wikileaks because i want to put this in context. this is something trump said on the campaign trail last night. >> wikileaks shows the media colludeing and conspireing directly with the clinton campaign. e-mails even show the clintons boasting gleefully about very friendly and malleable
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reporters. >> here is where i take issue with that. don't you think if there was a hack by a foreign government or by anybody in the trump campaign or rnc you would find a lot of e-mails from friendly reporters. i've sent you some pretty friendly e-mails over the years. >> like happy birthday, how are you, good job but i don't get debate questions. i haven't got to edit stories for folks. there is a different between a friendly e-mailing collusion -- >> people are saying collusion -- picking and choosing a few examples of stupid journalists. >> i don't know a few examples. >> claiming it's a conspiracy. >> i think again, look at -- there is several. look at the amount of time you guys give evan versus jill sign. jill sign is nonexistent. you guys don't want to cover people on the left the way you do on the right -- >> that's an interesting point
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especially about evan mcmullen. he's competitive in one state, utah. they are boosting up trump's opponen opponents. >> nobody is asking how did that tape get out. has anybody asked nbc that? has anybody -- >> we all know we've been begging for information about that. you know that. >> where is the story, brian? where is the story on that. >> where is the story? every time donald trump makes a comment, every republican up and down the ballot including here at the rnc asked to comment. when was the last time someone was asked on the record to comment about hillary clinton's disclosures whether how she handled classified information, whether or not they believe she's fit to serve because of how she handled classified information and when was the question how risky she is as a candidate, whether her failed russian reset, how she handled libya and syria. there are questions about hillary clinton's fitness for
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office that don't ever get asked and a very tilted thing. that's not complaining. that's making sure people understand when they tune into television or go online to a main stream media source whether "the new york times" or politico they are getting a bias one-sided activist journalist view of the race. >> there is a lot ocho think about and appreciate you being here this morning. thank you, sean. >> thanks, brian. for another perspective on this, let me bring in a legendary journalist, dan rather now the host of access tv the big interview. dan, you've seen it all when it comes to presidential elections. do you think the media playing field is tilted? is there an anti trump bias for those who fear donald trump? >> some of all of that. one cannot say that there had been no media bias. of course there is media bias. what wasn't discussed in the conversation with sean, a gentleman i happen to like a lot is trump's bias against the
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media. but -- >> does that make the right to challenge -- >> no, no, it does not make it right. look. journalism is not a precise science but at best a crude art. is there some bias? yes. has some of it been not consistent with traditional journalist values? of course, that's true. seeing it as a whole, seeing in context with someperspective, you hear the classic whining to the referees when things don't seem to be going your way. and i don't -- i don't think this is frankly an argument that gets very far with independent and swing voters. it may play well to trump's base voters but i don't think it plays well with infinite swing voters. one thing i agree with the leadership is that the election is not over. you speak of bias, bias that set in that the election is over. >> the people think we know what will happen. >> how much? i agree that's the way to put it but this narrow path we talked
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to before is something real. if you get -- if it turns out there is a lot of silent voters that don't show up in the polls and show up in very strong numbers, particularly the number of white voters, particularly white men is exceptionally high, and if you get a lot of traditional democrats, so-called blue collars to donald trump he could win. i'm not saying he will win. i'm saying it's still possible he could win and all this talk about sweep for hillary clinton and so-called mandate is way premature. i'm reminded of the old saying in texas and louisiana, don't taunt the alligator until after you cross the creek. i think the clinton people may be making that mistake of sort of mixing metaphors, dancing in the end zone before the game is over. >> what you're saying, dan, stay tuned? >> definitely stay tuned. >> stay with me. let's all stay tuned. let's take a quick break and lots more to talk about moderates versus trump's base.
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sources." did the following in the steps of lincoln. but then trump again claimed falsely that the elections are totally rigged. and he vowed to sue the women accused him after sexual assault or inpropriety. let's bring back dan rather, the former cbs evening news anchor and host of access tv and bring in senior editor and jane hall professor at the american university school of communications. what was your take away from the gettysburg address? >> one of the things i find so interesting is donald trump apparently cannot help but reveal who he is. he goes to gettysburg, one of the sites of one of the great battles and american political speeches to talk about divisiveness and policy and launches into i'm going to sue all of the women that have come forward to accuse him after sexual misconduct and talks about how the elections are rigged which is bad for the country and i think he railed against the media. we need to listen to why people
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think we're bias but he has stoked those fires. he wasn't off message. that is his message and i just find it so interesting that even when he tries to do something else, he still cannot help revealing some aspects of himself that i think are very troubling. >> mali, let me ask you about a refrain of the election, the media takes trump literally but not seriously while voters take trump seriously but not literally. do you believe that's what happened with his talked about rigged election that the elites have overreacted to it but voters understand what he's talking about? >> this is a brilliant insight. the way his message resonates and this is something that's actually quite common rhetoric on the left and the washington freebie had a super cut. elizabeth warren talking about
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when the systems are rigged and act like it's completely confusing and over the top rhetoric and in fact, voters hear that and say that's why they like his message. he's talking about the government being rigged and economy being rigged and our economic plans being rigged and this is something underlying his message and i do want to point out -- >> there is a difference between claiming wide spread voter fraud and saying the system is rigged against a common person. trump alleged wide spread voter fraud. >> so again, i think, you know, it's more -- what's interesting about it is the media reaction to it. he says something and the media goes over with rage. there was a great segment saying this is not unheard of and been in place throughout the country's history. we had very few elections not seriously contested and the republic survives. this is something the media should calm down rather than act like everything is so crazy.
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go ahead and do that. it's just an over the top reaction that is not matched by similarly alarming things that hillary clinton says and people can see that. >> that's just not true. it's not only the immediate yao it's people in china and people who lived in countries where people say they will put their opponent in jail. this is not a media reaction. i agree with bernie sanders talked about a rigged economic system. that is different from treating the result of this election like some kind of reality show and suspension about. >> let's talk about november 8th. let's talk about what will happen, dan, at 11:00 p.m. or whatever time the networks are ready to call this race. you've been in the seat. what is the role a journalist can play in helping the country except the results one the decision desks are confident in the results. >> well, first of all, the role of the anchor is to be an honest broker of information and to get as close to the truth as is humanly possible and on election
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night, when it's clear, if it's clear that hillary clinton is the winner, i would i think every anchor reveals some responsibility to say it not so directly. these charges donald trump is throwing out about a rigged election quote unquote ridiculous, untrue, and dangerous. it's very important that people have confidence in the electoral system. it's ridiculous to say all of these good people who work at polling places, who work in gathering the votes are somehow part of a rigged system. >> you're saying he's insulting the volunteers and lawyers and people that run the system. >> absolutely and some of his own people in ohio manage in charge of making sure that the voters are as honest as possible, who is a trump supporter who said in effect this is not true. we talked earlier about some bias. it's not reporter bias when something is untrue, untrue and ridiculous and danger, the president's role is to say so and then when running the kind
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of campaign donald trump is running, you shout bias. but, you know, what the country needs is a flicker of candle of hope and unity, and trump has cast himself as a divider, quite honestly in my opinion, never worked in my -- if you take a different back in the campaign he might be closer in the polls to hillary clinton right now but the american people, i have great confidence in the american people. they understand this system is not rigged. yes, there is a certain segment of the trump core support that will believe that. that's only a certain section all the more to say what we need is hope and unity, not a division. >> let me term from number eight to number nine, the day after the election many believe trump is paving the way to the tv where streaming service, trump's campaign ceo was on the same flight as me to the debate so i caught up with him on the way to baggage claim and he told me and brooke baldwin he wouldn't deny the rumors.
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he said trump is an entrepreneur and the press secretary seems to agree. after the debate he said trump's appeal to the base could be a strategy for creating a nice base of consumers, customers to monetize the television network. molly trump's aids say this is to talk about trump tv is a way to discourage trump voters. how do you see it? >> i couldn't possibly understand what the trump people are thinking about starting another network, but what i'm concerned about again is how the media are kind of pushing people in this direction. we have historic lows of trust in the media of approval ratings for the media, people don't feel like they are able to watch different networks or read different papers and get actual news and that is pushing people into further ghettos and we have a problem with the ghettoization of media and i think that's very bad for our republic that we need to have standards we uphold across different lines and both on left and right and now the main stream media we can't trust the media and that is causing a
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total break down in people's ability to trust institutions and so, if the media really do care about the problem of rhetoric, about rigged elections and what not, they should redouble the efforts to be calm and to report the news, you know, rather than tell people what to think, they should report actual facts and give people a fair shake and understand different view points and scrutinize both candidates. it's not bad to scrutinize donald trump and she's getting a pass left and right. when people say that, that makes them feel like they don't need to waste time with traditional media institutions and that's bad. >> jane, briefly your thoughts on trump tv. might not be journalism but to the right of fox news. fox had a great week with chris wallace, huge moment for the network. do you think trump tv network would make a bad country worse? >> well, i think that she would -- he would be reaching the people who probably were maybe critical of fox news.
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the alt right, he could do something online or facebook live or something attached to the twitter feed. he wouldn't have to start another network. i think one of the things that will be interesting is to see what happens with fox, which is doing very well but also trying to figure out what happens to fox during the post ails era. would he drive in further to the right? i think it would be very interesting to see it wouldn't cost a lot of money, he doesn't have to go create a whole other network and get cable coverage, which would be a big deal to do. >> that is the big question. thank you both for being here and dan, i wanted to ask you about the documentary coming out november 1st. it's about trump's america that the anger out there, the media doesn't understand the anger at these rallies. is that what you experienced going into the rally exploring them? >> yeah, we went to dozens of rallies and what this report and documentary premieres next tuesday night at 9:00 is trying to understand the rise of trump.
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how trump happened. how he came to such prominence, why it happened and why you should care about it and you should care about it because i'm of the school of thought that overwhelmingly, the people who support trump are good americans, hard-working people. yes, there is a fringe element but that always happens with such movements but these are good people and so convinced there has to be dramatic change they hold their nose and say listen, i'm for trump. this documentary says once the election is over on november 9th, 38 or 40% of the people roughly speaking are going to have voted for trump and how we pull ourselves together, how we reduce this polarization is part of what this is about. it begins with understanding why good people have -- are so angry and so afraid that trump will get 38 to 40% of the vote. >> thanks for being here and thanks to our panelist. the media, is it prematurely
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hey, welcome back. it's often been said the media loves nothing more than a horse race, a tight race because we have a bias towards a story but, you know, right now we're about two weeks before election day and the dominant narrative from the press is not about a horse race at all, it's about how hillary clinton is far ahead of trump and already talk about trump's campaign being over. >> is the race over? >> certainly he's at a stage where he's needing emotionally, personally to confront the possibility that he could lose this election. >> with just three weeks to go here, he finds himself in a fair amount of trouble. >> trump is most likely headed to lose this election. >> the presidential race will be preordained and the only battle will be over the senate and the house. >> this is a really interesting
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situation for cable news and for journalists to be in. some journalists feel trump squanders opportunity and reverted back to the first place, a joke but our reporters, our commentators getting ahead of themselves? let's ask former bush cheney advisor matthew dowel joining me here in new york. we heard dan rather saying this race is not over. people should be careful. your message is clinton had a steady lead all long and a political meteor, clinton is going to win a similar victory to obama in 2008. what's the right tone for journalists to keep both these in their mind? >> tell the truth and say what is going on instead of invent a scenario that creates a media point of focus. >> do you see that happen, journalists trying to make up a horse race that doesn't exist? >> i said a couple weeks ago, i watched this race since june and it's traded between a two-point hillary lead and seven-point
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hillary lead the entire time. that's a significant lead in a country that's very polarized. i've seen journalists who actually say the race is too che close to call and too tight to feed the narrative. the problem with that in this environment, why i think i want to speak out and say yes, it's not over, but it's a definite hillary advantage and she's most likely going to win is there is a number of voters if you tell them it's too close to call and they show up on election day and it's a six or seven or eight-point race they will distrust the system less. >> they will believe trump's claim about a rigged election. >> when donald trump points to one or two polls saying it's too close to call or his campaign management tried to convince his voters that he's really competitive in this race, it actually feeds the narrative that on election night if he loses, then they believe the system is rigged. >> let's talk about election night, you said this week that paul ryan should come out and give a speech. assuming trump might not give the concession speech, why
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should paul ryan come and speak the same way as clinton? >> i love this country and i'm a huge believer of the country and i have fault in both poll lit. >> caller: -- political parties and someone needs to take the car keys away from donald trump. >> do you think he can see it if he loses? >> i think the words donald trump will utter will not do anything to help heal the country, and we need leaders on election night that will help heal the rift in our country or begin to heal. it will take awhile to do that. i think paul ryan or somebody else needs to step up and give a speech that says we may have our differences and assuming hillary clinton is likely to win, that i'm going to work with hillary clinton, we're going to help bring this country together and move ourselves forward, that kind of speech needs to happen on election day and i have grave doubts donald trump can give that speech. >> it said something about the stability of the race and here we are 16 days before election day talking about election night and gaming out the scenarios and whether trump will speak and
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what he will say and whether ryan should speak for him. >> having been involve in a number of campaigns and george bush's race in 2004. many of the races are covered too tactically and not too broad. the series of important moments have passed and the last one passed in the debate. what is going forward is an unexpected thing that breaks. >> a meteor. >> and those do happen. george bush's dwi in the final three day wasn't an effect in the race in 2000 but absent those things, the tactical elements will not adjust this. who gives a speech where and what they say here even though everybody wants to cover is not going to fund mentally change the opinion. >> great context as we watch the last 16 days of the coverage non-stop coverage that will suddenly end in a couple weeks. >> we love our country and want it to heal. >> great to see you. >> you, too. >> coming up, looking forward to doing all year long since america's trust in the media is
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ready for a new chapter? talk to your rheumatologist. this is humira at work. welcome back. donald trump is waging two wars at the same time, a campaign against hillary clinton and a campaign against what he calls the dishonest crooked media and his attacks are sort of working. a recent poll shows americans trust in the media and republicans' confidence, the lowest it's been in 20 years. for journalists, this is incredibly alarming. politics have been running against the media for decades but trump's assault is unique undermining the press completely rejecting the notion of journalism and according to those polls, it inflicted damage. so we wanted to ask people like you, viewers at home when you think about the media. we want to find out not from experts, talking heads on tv but from real voters. i spent time with 20
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participants in a focus group after the third and final debate in las vegas. the responses, they might surprise you. >> wildly speaking, do you-all trust the media hands up? less than half. distrust the news media hands up. >> so you can see more than half of the participants say they distrust us. why is that? they echo feedback i hear from social media and e-mail. take a listen. >> there is not enough honesty. >> where is the truth? you know, there is absolutely no substance and it's disappointing. >> i think a lot of things are taken out of context. >> just stick with the facts. >> the people that are supposed to be news anchors give their opinion. >> if you're a reporter, report and let me make my decision. i shouldn't know what you think, especially politically. >> i drilled down a little bit deeper and i wanted to ask what are the media's biggest flaws in
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your minds? a common theme is there is not enough honesty. reporters are showing bias when people want the facts and i asked if you were in charge of cnn or "the new york times", what would you do differently? >> try to tell the whole perspective, not just one side. >> you're showing all the bad, what about the good being done out there? >> the thing i would change is to make sure things are balanced. >> i'd get better analysts. >> i would try to instill accountability for doing your own research. >> so you're putting it on the consupme consumer, it's not all the fault of the media. >> it's up to me to decide are they telling the truth and slanting it? >> another term is news literacy that we have to be litter when doing that. >> i totally trust the media. >> totally.
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>> i have the complete reverse experience than everybody here. i watch everything. i watch new day all the way to the 11th hour. >> is your secret a well-rounded meal, a well balanced diet and getting lots of different news sources. >> absolutely. >> they report things as they are and try not to be too slanted one way or the other. >> where else do we get news from? we didn't have internet in the '70s and '80s when i grew up. we didn't have that. we watched the news. >> a lot of people i know rely on the internet than cable news and social media-wise, that scares me more than watching anything on tv. >> the internet changed everything when it comes to media consumption the past 20 years. the bottom line is there a divide. you can see it in the focus group. some of it is along party lines with many people more willing to consider trump as president, more willing to believe his conspiracy theory about the media being a big part of the problem but the media helping to
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rig the election. check out this answer. >> do you-all feel like your friend friends, your family members are living in alternate realities because of the rise of the internet and you can't agree on the facts. raise your hands. >> so that right there is the fundamental problem we face as journalists, that a lot of the audience members and readers and viewers do not believe they can trust what we're sharing and they don't even believe what they see on the facebook feeds. they think their friends and family are living in alternate realities. i think that group represents some of the challenges the media faces. let me though what you think, send me a message on facebook or twitter. i'll be looking for your thoughts after the program today. when we come back, talking about the effects of the election. many of the focus group members say they are stressed out by this campaign and they are not alone as journalists become
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take a look at this survey, recently come to the annual stress in america survey and found 52% of those surveyed feel the election is a very or significant source of stress in their lives. how is this affecting viewers and journalists? let's ask a psychiatrist and host of the pod cast the power of different. is this election different than the others? are people feeling it more and how does it affect them? >> absolutely. people are more stressed this election cycle than i've seen before but when surveys show has ever been seen before. the reasons are that we are so polarized, that the messaging is so catastrophizing and so
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interruptive for relationships. people are arguing with people in their circle and at work and via social media. it feels like we're having a minute to minute fight and that raises people's anxiety levels tremendously. >> let me share a tweet from someone that stood out to me what this means for victims of sexual assault. this person said sad it's the road to the likely the first woman to president is paved with reminders the ways we're demeaned, assaulted and objectified. does it affect victims of sexual assault or harassment in unique ways we need to pay attention to? >> possibly yes. people that had trama in the past are much more likely to feel the traumatic effects again later. if they are brought up in a certain kind of way and rehashed and put in front of them constantly and add to that the idea they wouldn't believed and you would definitely have more
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of a response, more of a traumatic response, anxiety, not sleeping, nightmares. i would say for people that had that experience and many women that have this could be an issue. >> we're hearing women and men say they can't watch it anymore. the ratings for the challenges are still very high and a lot of people say they can't take it anymore. >> i hope they mean it. while people should stay informed. the an nisolution is not have i front of your face 24/7. you don't have to follow your twitter feed minute to minute. >> my wife will love that you said that. put away the twitter feed for an hour. >> keep your anxiety level very, very high and you don't have moments of time to let it reseed and go take a walk and get involved with your kids and do something that has nothing to do with this and look away for a little while. >> what about the journalists that cover this every day. we can show video of jim acosta
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being accosted by railers. what do you say to journalists that have to deal . >> well, journalists have always been on the front lines. they are doing war coverage, anything that's dangerous, in the eye of the hurricane, et cetera. so they are in the eye of the hurricane of this unusual political election where there is potential violence, where there's at least a verbal abuse and that makes a problematic situation for some journalists. i would say that some media outlets need to rotate so one person is not always on the front lines, so that they have breaks and reprieves. >> when we fact checked trump or clinton, the people believe the lie even more. >> the problem is an unconscious process. the people only take in the information so come in with what they already think and then reinforced for their own brains. the best scenario is if media
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outlets would present both sides. when that doesn't happen, people tend to only tune in to what they want to hear and because it's unconscious, they don't even realize they are doing it. unfortunately, there isn't a lot to do. what people can do about their anxiety is go vote. is get involved in the election on a local level because doing things makes you feel -- that are helpful makes you feel less anxious. >> dr. saltz, thank you for being here. >> good to see you. up next, the biggest deal of the year. at&t buying cnn's parent company, time warner. what this means for you and for cnn, after a short break. to help prevent another one. a bayer aspirin regimen is one of those steps in helping prevent another stroke. be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen.
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hbo, cnn, hln and cartoon network and wb and tnt. the experts i talked to say it will eventually receive regulatory approval. let's see what it means to own the news. at&t's roots go back to the advent of the telephone, 1876. it's one of the biggest public companies in the world, the second biggest wireless provider in the u.s. and a company with the ability to see around the corner to what is next. check this out. this is in 1993 a tv commercial. this is from 1993. >> have you ever watched the movie you wanted to the minute you wanted to. >> so where did the jazz come from? >> good question. >> or touch you baby from a
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phone booth. >> look at that. on demand for online classes, video calling, at&t saw it coming and helped make it happen. up until now and owning news is special and sometimes really difficult. owners like at&t need to understand the news business and invest in it but most of all respect journalistic independence. owning a news division, a worldwide news organization means you employ people in harm's way, journalists in conflict zones who need the support of the owner. a news division means you face legal threats and sometimes subpoenas and people scrutinize your do nating or corporate lobbying and sometimes it means protesters outside your headquarters. if that's the negative, here's the positive. news divisions have a place in people's lives and at its best, cnn is a public service.
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think about election night. the millions of people will tune in and will trust what the anchors say. that's what it means. trust. viewers need to trust the corporations are not interfering with the news. this is why journalists get a little queasy promoting disney's theme park and when nbc found out the vulgar "access hollywood" tape and then was leaked to "the washington post." now more than ever, we need to pro equity it the news side. trust in the news media is already too low and not going to get any better if at&t medals in the news. here's an example. when studies come out showing that verizon has better mobile service than at&t, the bosses should not be calling the editors to try and squash the story. the good news is, i have no reason to believe at&t would do that. my sense is that at&t values
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cnn's global brands and big profits. in the coming days, at&t's randall stephenson will be introducing himself to time warner. now, on that front, he's saying all the right things so far. former cnn ceo tom johnson e-mailed a group of media a-listers over the night, including the new york post, cnn and christiane amanpour. it's critical for at&t to recognize cnn's independence. stephenson said, "cnn is an american symbol of independent journalism. the board and i are not confused ensuring the public that cnn remains independent from an editorial perspective is critical. of course, actions are much more important than words but these words are a very good start. we'll have complete coverage at
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cnnmoney.com. i'll be writing up his full comments about cnn and the importance of independence. that's it for this edition of "reliable sources" but check us out for our nightly media newsletter. stay tuned. i'll be right here next week. homestretch. clinton and trump, are barn storm the nation with two tweaks with two weeks to. >> are there any other curve balls coming in the final days of this crazy campaign? plus trump doubles down on his debate shocker. >> i will totally accept the results of this great and historic presidential election if i win. >> is he serious? >> he is threatening our democracy. >> trump campaign manager kellyanne conway will be here in minutes. and going blue? as hillary clinton expands in to
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