hillary clinton wants to double down and make it more expensive. >> he's been denigrating america for decades. >> i will cancel every illegal obama executive order. >> we haven't seen before is somebody questioning the integrity of elections. >> the media isn't just against me, they're against all of you. >> we nasty women are going to cast our nasty votes to get you out of our lives forever. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." two weeks from today we'll have a new president elect. a new cnn/orc poll shows that hillary clinton has a five-point lead over donald trump, 49 to 44. trump's reaction to the polls, a reflection of why he's down. he says the polls are rigged by a rigged media. note, he could not talk about polls enough when was up. >> meanwhile, clinton is facing a new challenge with obamacare

premiums soaring by double digits next year. how will that impact the presidential race? as trump and clinton battle it out for votes in florida today. we have it all covered for you. let's begin with cnn's jason carroll live in miami. what's the latest, jason? >> reporter: and alisyn, early voting under way here in the state of florida, where a poll shows that donald trump trails behind hillary clinton, but donald trump saying don't put stock in any of those types of polls. donald trump on the defensive. >> i believe we're actually winning. >> reporter: trump flat out denying he's behind in the polls as he blazes through the background state of florida. >> they are phony polls put out by phony media. >> reporter: just hours before hitting the trail, trump did admit he's lagging. >> i guess i'm somewhat behind in the polls but not by much. >> reporter: and with only two weeks until election day, a new cnn/orc national poll shows

hillary clinton up by five points. no matter, trump is ratcheting up the attacks on his rival. >> if you look at her plans for syria, these are the plans of a child. these are the plans of a person that doesn't know what she's doing. >> reporter: the media -- >> the media isn't just against me. they're against all of you. >> reporter: and the 11 women accusing him of unwanted advances. >> they were made up. i don't know these women. >> reporter: trump raising eyebrows over his comments about jessica drake, an adult film performer who alleges he grabbed and kissed her without permission in 2006. >> this one that came out recently, he grabbed me and he grabbed me on the arm. i'm sure she's never been grabbed before. >> reporter: this as clinton works to seal a win in new hampshire, campaigning with liberal favorite senator elizabeth warren. >> i'm with her. are you with her? [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: both wasting no time hitting the gop nominee. >> this is someone who takes glee in mocking our country no

matter who our president is. now, that may be who donald trump is, but this election is about who we are. >> reporter: warren capitalizing on trump's nasty woman comment on clinton from the last debate. >> he thinks because he has a mouth full of tic-tacs that he can force himself on any woman within groping distance. i got news for you, donald trump. women have had it with guys like you. and nasty women have really had it with guys like you. nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart. and nasty women vote. >> reporter: president obama joining the democratic trump takedown on jimmy kimmel. >> what i don't do is at like 3:00 a.m., i don't tweet about -- >> you don't tweet in the middle of the night? >> people who insulted me.

>> do you ever laugh? do you ever actually laugh? >> most of the time. >> reporter: and as for those polls showing trump trailing behind clinton, the trump campaign feels as though pollsters in the media are not really taking into account the large crowds that they draw at trump rallies. they feel as though that's anecdotal evidence, if you will, that be the candidate is performing well. trump, for his part, making two more stops here in florida. today clinton has one stop here in florida, two more tomorrow. alisyn? >> jason, thanks so much for all of that. donald trump and republicans blasting democrats after news that obamacare premiums will soar next year. trump declaring it's over for the affordable care act, but the plan's defenders insist most consumers will not feel that crunch. cnn's athena jones is live at the white house with more. what ahave you learned, ai thet?

>> reporter: good morning, alisyn. lots more people could be paying more for health insurance in 2017. benchmark prices are set to rise an average of 25%. that increase is compared to just a 7.2% increase last year. so it's a big jump. now, since the vast majority of obamacare enrollees get a government subsidy to help lower the cost of premiums, the government says 77% of customers will be able to find a plan that costs them $100 a month or less when you factor in those subsidies. to be clear, this 25% is an average. it's going to vary from state to state. if you look at arizona, which had the lowest premiums last year,ing this year customers there are going to see an average increase of more than 00%. but in indiana, the benchmark plan will be 3% cheaper. so why are we seeing this big jump in prices? that's because enrollees are sicker and costlier than

expected. there's not enough young and healthy people signing up. insurers initially priced their plans too low, and fewer insurance companies are offering coverage. we know obamacare has been under fire since the very beginning, and this is providing more fodder for all of those critics. we know that health care is an important issue for a lot of voters. 50% of voters said it was important in our latest poll. that number is higher for clinton voters, 53%. so this is something she's very likely going to have to address on the campaign trail. chris? >> all right, athena. thank you very much. let's discuss the implications with cnn political commentator and hillary clinton supporter bakari sellers, and trump supporter scotty nell hughes. clinton is up five in the poll. what that means compared to our last poll was that each has ticked up a little bit. so you're seeing somewhat of a flattening in the state of play. key groups, independents, trump showing a good advantage there. we're going to discuss that.

women, clinton showing a good advantage there. it's actually lower in the cnn poll than it had been in the past. then you have what really brings you the fundamental case for trump's campaign, which is noneducated voters. i hate that demographic description, but it's what the pollsters use. you're really dealing with working class people there. he's winning two out of three in that situation. we call it degree/no degree. i don't like that, but that's what we're working with in terms of how the variables are describes. lest discuss. when you look at these numbers, the working man and woman, of course, and families, that has been the background for donald trump. he is their proxy, their voice, and frankly that's why they're so forgiving of the man because they're so desperate to have their message get out there. what do these poll numbers mean to what hillary clinton still needs to do? >> well, i think you have to delve just a little bit deeper than that original question, chris.

you have to look down because it is white, college educated, versus white noncollege educated voters, which tend to be the key in this race. donald trump has ginned up the base. he's gotten his message out. he really has riled up and ginned up this base of white, noncollege educated voters. what you're starting to see is this gender gap, this gender gap is the size of the grand canyon. it's something we haven't seen before between donald trump and hillary clinton. that is what's driving this. between white college educated women, african-americans, and hispanic voters, that's what's driving hillary clinton's lead, which, with all due respect s a little more narrow in the cnn poll, than it has been in other polls over the past ten days. >> you got to take the range. so flipping the case here, it's that he needed to expand past the simple base, okay. and get more educated people.

he hasn't done that. can he, or do you think he can win without it? >> no, i think he definitely has to continue to expand that base. let's remember, prior to this a month ago, donald trump was winning with married women by 17 points over hillary clinton. since then we've seen definitely an assault on the female supporters of mr. trump, who have either stayed or crossed over. what you have to look at is you've never seen a candidate like mr. trump, who's had to fight so much. you're looking between the wikileaks have proven the democrats will do whatever it takes to win, and as long as they keep their folks in power, then it doesn't matter what they did, whether it's illegal or unethical. they're never going to be prosecuted. the republicans have never worked so hard to keep someone that today did not choose from winning. so as long as he's sitting here taking his message of just that he's raw, his raw message that he's there to divide up the cesspool and be an outsider, then he's going to win based on

the american people, males and females. >> how much of what you think he's working against right now was created by his own mouth? >> not necessarily because this has been a movement before. this was something that was -- i saw trying to actually accumulate over the last four years. it was a frustration within the republican party. maybe we don't have the best quarterback. we can debate that. but we've had truly a defense of the bad news bears this election season. we've had to fight much of the bitterness of our own party and use our energies on that. it's not been able to focus on mr. trump and more of the message getting over the line, which resonates with both republicans and democrats of the swamp that's been created within washington, d.c. >> all right. so let's take what works to the gop's advantage in saving themselves. what just came out about obamacare. i know it's complicated. there's something for everybody in looking at the economic analysis of obamacare. just the basic political optics level, if premiums are going up

and we're told that the solution that will make people not feel the pain is that the cost structure is going to go up on the government's side as well, it seems to suggest it's not working. and that's something that can unite an expanded republican base. your take? >> i mean, that's a great talking point, but that's just not where facts meet reality. the fact are that very few people are going to feel the brunt of this increase. we're talking about 77% of the people who actually get their health care from healthcare.gov will be able to find a plan for about $75 per month. because when you ask the question -- and everybody's talking about premiums going up. they never include the next part, which are the subsidies and tax credits go up as well. let's talk about why this is occurring. it's because of states like my own where politics are put above people and refuse to expand medicaid. you have a pool of people that are fewer, so insurance companies don't bring in the revenue, therefore they leave the system. and you have a more unhealthy group of individuals as well. so that is what you're starting

to see now. it's because the republican party for a long period of time has said they're going to obstruct this and break this because i guess for some reason they don't want individuals to have health care. 20 million people have health care in this country because of obamacare. it is a law with problems, but hillary clinton is the only one who's talking about fixing it. >> scottie, you were giving the signature lip curl head shake during that entire statement. you don't buy that rationale. >> absolutely. i'm going to use president obama's words himself in '08. the average family would see a reduction in costs by $2500. that's the exact opposite with most health care now on average at $4800 more than it was in 2008. those are people that pay for health insurance on their own or have employers that help pay for it. the cost for most average americans has gone up either double or triple until most states. >> so bakari, do you own that? is this an equivalent of you can

keep your doctor statement by president obama? >> not at all. in fact, i think one of the biggest criticisms that you can place on the white house and one of the criticisms that i've placed on the white house, especially coming from a southern state, is a failure to realize that some governors, especially republican governors, where all republican governors would refuse to expand medicaid. that was an integral cog in this whole piece. if anyone teles you this law does not have flaws, they're lying to you and the american public. but the fact is there's a greater good. people now cannot be denied coverage because of pre-existing conditions. people have health insurance. now when you have a heart attack, you don't just -- your family doesn't have to go bankrupt. that is the country that we're in. we need to work together to figure out how to make this law better, and we'll do that with the democratic senate and a democratic president of the united states. >> all right. thank you very much. always good to have you both here. alisyn? ah, twitter. well, there's not a person in the twittersphere that, well, is not actually destroyed by twitter comments.

president obama is no exception. jimmy kimmel striking comedy gold in mean tweets, president obama edition. here's your late-night laughs. >> barack obama is the nickelback of presidents. obama couldn't negotiate getting a whopper without pickles. thanks, dave. i bet obama likes mustard on his hot dogs because he's gross. just found out my daughter shares a birthday with obama. puke. in caps. barack obama dances like how his jeans look. you know, this jeans thing, this is so old. this is years ago. come on. my mom bought any conditioner and it sucks. it isn't even conditioning my hair.

i blame obama. barack obama, bro, do you even lift? well, i lifted the ban on cuban cigars. that's worth something. barack obama is the -- barack obama is the sharknado of presidents. loud, stupid, and overhyped. #sharknado4. president obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the united states! @realdonaldtrump. okay, @realdonaldtrump. at least i will go down as a president. >> that's the best part. >> you like the phone drop. >> i love the drop. did you send him the bro do you even lift? >> no, no. he's very fit. he's a good ball player. i take no quibble with that. i will tell you this. what does this tell you about

twitter? no matter which poll, he's over 50%. but on twitter, he gets savaged. twitter is the toxic crucible of negativity. >> that should be its motto. >> i say it all the time. >> yet, you do indulge it. >> i do. though, after the election, i will not. >> you're going to be off twitter after the election? >> i'm not going to be doing what i do now, which is basically let everybody punch me in the face in the vain effort of trying to make them see some reason to their position. that i'm not doing anymore. i have a new strategy. >> when will you reveal that? >> after election day. 15 days from today. >> 14. >> yes. cuomo tv in conjunction with trump. it'll be great. >> can't wait. all right. donald trump and hillary clinton are crisscrossing florida. why? because they need those 29 electoral votes, and it could go either way. two weeks from today. so if trump doesn't have florida, does he have a path to victory?

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just in case you haven't heard, we're winning. not only florida, but we're going to win the whole thing. but you see these polls where they're polling democrats. how is trump doing? oh, he's down. they're polling democrats. the system is corrupt and it's rigged and it's broken. and we're going to change it. >> all right. that was donald trump making his final push in must-win florida today with exactly two weeks until election day. trump is holding five rallies in the key swing state in just three days. so let's bring in his senior adviser for the trump campaign and former georgia congressman jack kingston. good morning, congressman. >> morning, alisyn. morning, chris. >> so why isn't donald trump running away with florida? at the moment hillary clinton is winning florida. why isn't florida leaning towards donald trump? >> you know, florida is a tough state. it's a diverse state. as you just pointed out,

republicans actually started voting early in big numbers for romney, yet he ultimately lost the state. it's an area where you have the west, the north, the central, and the miami area. each area has a different constituency. our campaign chairman down there, suzy wiles, is the one that brought rick scott to the governor's mansion. she cut her teeth back in the early days when republicans were the minority party in the state of florida. so she's a very savvy woman and has been opening our offices. we hope to get 25 offices open in florida. we do have an aggressive ground game, but it is a tough state. >> so you're confident, though, that donald trump will win florida given that? >> i am. and you know, part of it is going to be this obamacare issue. obamacare premiums are absolutely skyrocketing, but everybody's very, very frustrated with it in general. they don't like the idea of a bureaucrat being in between them and their doctor. that's exactly what obamacare

brought. in a state like florida p that is an important issue. you know, hillary is also talking about lowering the age of medicare to 55. how in the world is she planning to pay for that? the seniors who are in florida, they're smart enough to know that if you decrease the eligibility age by ten years for medicare, you're going to drive the system broke. and so those are issues which we own and we just need to keep talking about and talking about all over the state of florida. >> congressman, what about your home state of georgia? at the moment it is 45 versus 42. donald trump is up. that's the margin of error, but he's up 44 to hillary clinton's 42. that's a solidly red state. what's going on in your home state? >> well, i think georgia's going to be okay. johnny isaacson is our senior senator there. i'm not going to call it a cake walk. he's very a very solid campaign. he's doing everything right.

that's probably the only big -- it is the only big race besides the presidential race. so you know, our issue is making sure we just get our folks to the poll. it's going to happen. our state legislature is overwhelmingly republican. our constitutional officers are all republican. we do not have that many contested seats. so we're just going to get people to come out, and we're going to win georgia, i think, by about five or six points. >> congressman, i want to talk to you about one of the corner stones of donald trump's campaign, his signature issue, which is immigration and illegal immigration. you know, of course, that he has called mexican immigrants rapists, said mexico was sending rapists across the border. he's railed against illegal immigrants. that's why this next clip that aired in 2012 is so eyebrow raising, what he said then about undocumented immigrants. just four years ago. listen to this. >> you have people in this country for 20 years. they've done a great job.

they've done wonderfully. they've gone to school. they've gotten good marks. they're productive. now we're supposed to send them out of the country? i don't believe in that, michelle, and you understand that. i don't believe in a lot of things that are being said. >> four years ago he did not believe in deporting undocumented immigrants. he said that they were great people, they'd done a great job, they'd been in the country 20 years. what has happened over those next three years? >> well, i think if we look at the many, many discussions that have taken place in the last two months on immigration, there is a very difficult decision that americans have to face, and we're all slightly schizophrenic on it because the people that we know who fall in a category like that we're all very fond of, yet they still have broken the law. what donald trump has done is somewhat -- i'm not going to say back down, but he's been careful to say lately, as recently as yesterday i believe, that we're going to start with the bad guys. there's about 2 million who have actually broken the law. they're involved in drugs. they're involved in gangs.

that's the targeted group for deportation right now. >> but that's the targeted group of everybody. that's what hillary clinton says as well. the criminals have to go. but that's very different from what donald trump said at the launch of his campaign, which is that everybody, all 12 million, were going to have to go anddep. >> alisyn, as a member of congress, i was involved in this issue because we had so many migratory workers who worked in the agriculture industry. i got involved in this at a very, very early time. what we found is when the laws are stricter, you have less illegal immigration. when are the laws are open and a little loosely enforced, then you have more immigration. i think one of the things that donald trump has said is i'm going to make this a priority. when you have a candidate who makes it a priority, there is a natural slowdown in the terms of illegal immigration. i think that's going to be very, very helpful in itself. but i don't see it as, you know, one perfect solution, which is

why it's been out there for a long time. but he's not backing down from immigration reform. he's not backing down from the wall. that's something people are listening to. i want to say this real quickly. i was in san diego two weeks ago. they built a wall there that's 13 miles long. it decreased illegal immigration in san diego by about 90%, but it also decreased crime, drug-related crime in particular, by about 50%. so border enforcement actually does work. and that's why he's talking about it. >> okay. we'll check those stats, congressman. thank you for bringing us your perspective on all of this on "new day." >> thank you, alisyn. >> let's get to chris. on the other side of the ball, you have hillary clinton making a pitch for down ballot democrats and planning her transition to the white house. too soon? too risky? a clinton supporter weighs in next. ♪

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so what do you think of this? hillary clinton is putting more focus on down ballot races, transitioning to the white house. does that mean she's looking past donald trump and certainly doing it too soon? joining us now to make the case is democratic congresswoman

debbie dingell of michigan. she's a clinton supporter. i've struggled to test you in the past, but not today. today i feel like i have high ground in testing this proposition. we're going to put up the map in a little bit of the background states that, if anything, give a generous appraisal to the clinton side of the map. why this confidence that you can -- ah, this should go the way we think it's going to go. in a race like this, so unpredictable, why so confident? >> okay. well, first of all, you're not hearing me be confident. i'm the woman that always says this race is competitive and there is no place for come play s -- complacency in the next two weeks. going into the primary, you know how i felt. i warned there was trouble. my gut is still worried because we've got to make sure people do turn out to vote. >> so what are they thinking with this let's talk more about down ballot, let's make sure our transition game -- she's had a transition game going. everybody knows how that works if you wind up getting in the

power. there's going to be a time and lag there. but it seems to speak to an arrogance, to a con desengs to the process. >> i'm not going to let you get away with that one. >> here we go. >> she's going to be elected in two weeks, and people are -- speculation is immediately going to start. she's not focused on potential cabinets. she's got a team of people that are off doing that. i am very happy to see the coordinated campaign that you're witnessing across this country. she has to have people she can work with. i'm sitting here in michigan, and i'm coordinating from the very top of this ticket down to every local race. that's how -- there are people, if we make sure that they vote, are going to go out and support hillary clinton as well. this is a coordinated campaign like i haven't seen one in many years. in the end, it's going to pay off. when elected people, they're going to work together to try to address many of the problems people want to see addressed in this country. >> let's talk about one of those, congressman.

how are you coordinating your messaging and campaign on the premiums going up on obamacare once again? this seems to be the next iteration of you can keep your doctor. the promise was premiums will go down $2500 over time for families, and it seems to be going the wrong way. >> okay. so am i happy about the latest news? no, none of us are. and it's really hard to understand those numbers because we're using averages and there are 50 sets of different numbers because each state is different. >> cost is going up. how complicated is that? >> not in every state. i want to go straight forwardly with you. no law is perfect. john dingell used to say the last perfect law was the ten commandments. in today's day and age, we probably wouldn't approve that. i don't believe republicans want to repeal it. really? because they don't want to go back to the day of pre-existing conditions and insurance being canceled as soon as you get a diagnosis of cancer or diabetes. >> that's why they say repeal

and replace. as you know, they want to repeal that thing like they want their next breath. they want the political score. they want to undo what they see as obama's legacy. and they want to do what they believe is the right thing, which is to make it more competitive across state lines and a creative cost structure that works more in favor of people and less in favor of the companies. >> well, we need to create something that's going to work more in favor of the people, but hillary clinton herself has said we need to tweak the law. we need to look at making changes. but we need to do it together, chris. i think one of the worst things that happened on the affordable care act is it was all democrats. republicans and democrats have got to start working together. that's one of the reasons we see what we see out there this year. american people are tired of the partisan bickering. and the millennials who aren't sure that they want to vote at all are just tired and fed up. they want to see us work together. i do believe that hillary clinton -- i've known her a long time -- will reach out and work with everybody. it's something we've got to do. >> are you guys going four corners offense?

you know sports, congressman. you know how at the end of the game you can spread it out, play the delay game. is that what hillary clinton is doing on this issue? because she's not aggressively been arguing, to my understanding, and obviously i pay a lot of attention to this, of saying here's what's wrong with the aca and i'm going to fix it this way. you don't hear a lot of that. you hear more people have insurance now, this was a good thing, there was hillary care before obamacare. but she doesn't really dive into what everyone else sees as a big problem. you got 50% of voters that say this matters to them in a big way. >> it does matter to them in a big way. what we're talking about today has just come out in the last couple days. i've heard her say we need to tweak it, make changes. by the way, i think she's smart. this is one of the things i've predicted. i've had no conversations with her, so i have no inside knowledge. but knowing her as i have, watching her work with john dingell when they were doing health care back then and now, one of the first things she'll do is start calling some of the republicans and saying, where can we find common ground?

how can we fix this? i think that's what the american people want to see us do. the premiums are going up for working people, and that worries me. i hear it every day when i'm out there. but also, 20 million more people have insurance, chris. in my state, where there is a republican governor, who did expand its medicaid, we have 500,000 more people covered. okay, let's tweak it and fix it. >> also, because i have you and you represent michigan, flint has not gone away. it's flat to even negative for communities there. we're not going to forget about it. when this election is over, we're going to hold government accountable at the local and federal level to see why it isn't better yet. we have not forgotten, congresswoman. >> i thank you. i do believe it was failure at every level. federal, state, and local. we got to get this fixed. >> we got to get after it. it's been ignored in the campaign. won't be ignored after. >> thank you, chris. >> all right, chris. you first heard this story on "new day" yesterday.

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you first heard this story on "new day" yesterday, and it's gotten a huge response. national guard veterans forced to repay millions of dollars in re-enlistment bonuses. master sergeant susan hailey is one of those soldiers who was given a bonus years ago to re-enlist. today she is struggling mightily

to pay it back. sergeant hailey served in afghanistan and retired after 24 years of service. she joins us now. master sergeant, thanks so much for being here. >> well, thank you for having me. >> just to recap, as i understand it, in 2006 you took a $15,000 bonus from the army to re-enlist. why did you want to do that? >> because they needed me, for one thing, and i felt a duty to my country. we had been in an interview room with a budge of other soldiers that were getting ready to retire or get out. they told us all the things we were going to lose out on if we didn't re-enlist. they had very compelling and compassionate arguments for how our country needed us and everything. and they were offering the bonus in addition. so i took that, in addition to a bonus i had been promised in 2003 but never received. >> well, that makes perfect

sense. just so everyone understands your personal story, let me give them a few points of interest. you served for 24 years in the army. your husband served for 26 years. your son served for five years, including a tour in afghanistan during which he lost his leg. you are a military family through and through. you and your whole family walked the walk. you believe in serving your country. so when you got the letter, or however you found out that, in fact, you somehow were not owed that $15,000 re-enlistment bonus and you were going to have to pay it back, what did you think? >> i was completely and totally in shock. i couldn't believe they were doing this to me. >> how did they explain it? >> they said i had received these moneys in violation of federal law. they were very accusatory and very demanding and aggressive.

>> and did you think that you had any recourse? obviously you must have thought, this is not possible. i served my country. they asked me to re-enlist. i did so. they gave me $15,000. did you take it up with anyone? >> i did. i did everything i could through the legal aid office in california. i contacted my congressman at the time, but i didn't get much of a response. then i did all the appeals process that i was required to do or allowed to do, and it was still denied. in 2013, they sent me a letter saying my requests for relief had been denied and i was going to have to start paying it back and interest was going to be assessed from that point on. they started taking -- go ahead. >> you have had to pay -- in addition to the payment to pay it back, you've had to pay interest. as i understand it, you have to pay the pentagon $650 per month. can you give us some sense of what that means to your family? what are you going without? how much of a hardship is that

payment every month? >> well, it's nearly a quarter of our income. $650 is a quarter of our monthly income. you just can't all the sudden come up with that money. we have depleted our savings. we're having problems making our house payments. i was late this month. don't tell my husband. and i haven't even paid my bill for the army yet because we just don't have the money. we're making sacrifices for our children and cutting back on just everything. and we already had a tight budget to begin with. >> susan, we are so, so sorry to hear that, particularly your house payment and that you're late on. i want to read to you what one of your congress people says. this is mark takano. he just tweeted, i am appalled by this effort to have claw back money paid to service members ten years ago. congress must fix this now. of course, he's in congress. he just tweeted this yesterday. do you have any hope that congress will take this up as

soon as possible? >> i do believe that congress will take this up as soon as possible. i'm not exactly confident that anything can or will be done. but i do believe that they will do their best effort to fix this. >> well, master sergeant susan haley, thank you for your service. thank you for sharing your personal story. i will tweet it out as well so people can figure out how to gain awareness for this and how to get you some help. we're really pulling for you and we'll follow your story and pray that congress does do the right thing here. thank you for coming on. >> thank you. i appreciate your time. >> let's get to chris. >> and congressman takano is going to be on the show. remember, you may be learning about this for the first time. this ain't new. this has been going on for years. there's been plenty of chances to fix it, and it hasn't been done. so you'll want to watch that interview. also coming up, we have ja e carney. you remember him. president obama's former press secretary. how does he deal with the

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all right. here's what the government says. premiums on the average for obamacare are going to rise by an average of 22% next year. some states will see their carrier options decrease to just one. that's not going to help pricing. donald trump is already pouncing on this news. could it be something that changes the state of play in the race? let's discuss that and more with former white house press secretary for president obama, jay carney. jay, good to see you, brother. this sounds like a problem. obamacare is complicated. that doesn't play well in politics. the simple reality is for many in this country, certainly those who are questionable or against hillary clinton is it ain't working. this is another you can keep your doctor moment. we were supposed to get $2500 back and instead our cost structure is getting worse. how big a deal is this? >> well, chris, obamacare remains, you know, not as

popular as i think president obama would like it to be. there are a whole bunch of reasons for that, but is it something that's going to change this news, something that's going to change the election? no, it's not. remember, the opportunity republicans had to use obamacare against the democrats and win the white house was in 2012. mitt romney, a far more credible candidate for president of the united states from the republican party, you know, beat us hard over the head with obamacare and guess what, the american people re-elected president obama. he's now as popular as he's almost ever been except right after he was elected in 2008. i don't think this is a big problem for secretary clinton. what i think is correct is what secretary clinton has said, which is that she needs when she becomes president both parties to help her to make adjustments to the law so that it can be improved. there's never been a major piece of domestic policy legislation in the history of our country that has been perfect as written and passed initially. it needs to be tweaked, it needs to be improved and hopefully

congress, both parties, at least some members of the republican party will be willing to do that to make it work better for the american people. >> the political proposition is whether or not as a voter i am willing to reward hillary clinton for something that's not working on the basis of her promise that she'll try to fix it, right? so to the voter out there that says, boy, i hate both of these people, i hate this whole process, i hate everybody, everything, but i'm going to vote because i'm better than the rest of them, i'm going to vote my pocketbook and my family's interests, this looms large. why would hillary clinton get the vote of the change agent when she's part of what created the problem? >> because, look, chris, the fact is when you ask the american people who they trust more on issues of health care, they're going to say the democrats and hillary clinton. they don't believe and they didn't believe in 2012 that republicans meant it when they said they would replace obamacare with something better. they've never put something forward that's credible. what the american people understand is if you were to repeal obamacare, you would throw thousands, tens of

thousands of people off of insurance across the country. you would see prices for insurance skyrocket and, you know, you would not see anything from the republican party that was credible as a replacement. repeal and replace has been their mantra but they haven't actually shown anything credible as a replacement for obamacare. across the country the uninsured, the rolls of uninsured have gone down dramatically. even with this increase in premiums the average american will not see a significant change in what they pay because of the subsidies going up. >> that's costly. >> this is not great news for the democrats but only marginal in terms of its impact on the election. it points up the fact that we need as a country to move forward and improve the legislation. obamacare is here to stay and it has made vast improvements in health care delivery in our country. >> now one of the things that works in favor of your argument is that the reality that

president obama is popular all of a sudden. he's over 50%. now is that because of respect for what he's done with something like obamacare and getting rid of osama bin laden and whatever else you want to tick off or is it because of this just stink of negativity and toxic disregard for each other that is going on in this election? and by that i mean he looks good by comparison to clinton and certainly trump? >> well, i think everyone looks good by comparison to trump, and i think secretary clinton's run an excellent campaign that barack obama has been out and supporting and endorsing in every way he can. look, president obama is as popular at the end of his second term as anyone in our lifetimes has been at the end of two terms. i think that is a reflection of two things, one, the success he's had, the steady job creation, the success in passing major legislation and keeping the promises he made when he ran for president and it's also a reflection of the fact that he has run a white house and

administration with great integrity. he is a role model as a family man and as a man of decency and integrity leading our country and leading the world from the united states and from washington, d.c. i'm enormously proud to have worked for this white house and this administration because of that role model -- the role model that he has been and, you know, the agenda that he's set in the past. >> except that obama, president obama, seems to be getting his lunch eaten by his wife in terms of success as a surrogate. you know, michelle obama's had her detractors in the past. you don't usually see the first lady picking up the ball and making gains to try to extend, you know, the administration, right, into a third term here for the party. why has michelle obama been so successful, arguably more so than her husband? >> well, look, she is an enormously talented speaker. you know, that's first off. we used to kid the president that he might be the second best speaker in the family, and of

course president obama's a masterful orator. look, i think what has been so successful about the first lady's speeches at the convention and on the campaign trail is that, you know, she's speaking from the heart. she's not speaking as a politician, she's speaking as a wife, as a mother, and as a woman. when you have a candidate like donald trump with his misogyny, racism, the power of her words is even greater than you might expect. she's terrific. now you hear folks, oh, god, she's so wonderful, she should run for office herself. >> don't wish that on anybody. >> i wouldn't predict that. she's doing a fantastic job. she's been a terrific first lady and i'm proud to have worked with her as well. >> suck the virtue out of her as well. i try to avoid the things i see as silly when there's so much that's so important, but in this election you have needed moments of levity just to create some balance with that laugh/cry ratio. the mean tweets with jimmy

kimmel live with the president really, really tickled me. it's fun to see someone deal with the negativity out there the way he did. here's a little taste. >> my mom bought new conditioner and it sucks, it isn't even conditioning my hair. i blame obama. barack obama, bro, do you even lift? well, i lifted the ban on cuban cigars. that's worth something. president obama will go down as perhaps the worst president in the history of the united states, exclamation poipoin point @realdonaldtrump. well, @realdonaldtrump, at least i will go down as a president. >> you know, i just saw -- i love the phone drop. that's been getting me and al alison all morning. there were birds dropping what birds drop on the vector that hits the president. it's good to be able to make fun of himself when he's no longer going to have to account for the

negativity going forward. you think he's going out the way he wanted? >> i do, and, you know, i tell ya, i've been gone for a couple of years. i had a great run, but when i see him out there on the campaign trail, i do miss it. i do know that he's enjoying himself. i do know that he's proud of hillary clinton and it's incredibly hopeful that she's going to win and win big on election day but he's -- you know, he's running through the tape, which i love to see. >> and that tape in many ways will be what happens in this election. it's obviously important to them. jay carney, thank you for the perspective. appreciate it as always. >> thank you, chris. we have new developments in the race to talk to you about so you can tweet us about that, facebook.com, get into all of that stuff, but then get ready for the news. let's get after it. the system is corrupt and it's rigged and it's broken. >> get this, donald. nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart and nasty

women vote. >> affordable health care is no longer affordable. it's only getting worse. >> the brand of politics hillary represents, it's not something that goes in 140 characters. >> losing our jobs like a bunch of babies. >> he shouldn't be a role model for our kids or for anybody else. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day," this tuesday, october 25th, 8:00 in the east. election day is exactly two weeks away. >> sport night. >> there you go. how many times can we use it today? a new cnn/orc national poll shows hillary clinton leading donald trump by 5 points, 59 to 4%. donald trump says he's winning. >> added to the rigged list. clinton, other side of the ball, has her own challenges. obamacare premiums are going to soar by double digits in the ne