edge off the rancor of the 2016 campaign. >> do you think your wife really wants to get you off her hands and out of the house? >> oh absolutely. she does love me a lot. but she loves me away. >> please reelect gerald. >> jeanne moos, cnn new york. >> and thanks for joining us. andersen is next. >> good evening. thanks for joining us. another big night ahead. including never before heard interviews. donald trump's kids telling a biographer about the father they know. and including their take on some of his most controversial statements. first a fresh batch of polling opening a new window on where the battle for the white house now stands less than tw weeks from election day. they raise the question is this election closer than we've been thinking? or is this one of those days when a few points of random variation makes it seem that way? >> john king joins us to break it down by the number.

new polling tonight. significant gains it seems for trump. what exactly is changing? >> it is tighter, anderson. and we should not be surprised. remember the country we've live in the last 20 years. it should not be surprising if this race gets tight into the end. a new poll shows hillary clinton up just three points. when you average out the most recent national polls we have hillary clinton with six points leading. down from eight or nine just a few days ago because the new polls coming out show a tighter race. some of the state polls get more interesting. and you say does donald trump have a chance as we have 12 more days essentially of campaigning? look at these numbers in florida. other polls have shown secretary clinton ahead in florida in recent days. a new poll trump up. does seem to indicate some trump momentum. in a state he absolutely has to win. and anderson when you look closer into this bloomberg poll, tells you a lot about the challenge for candidates heading into the final days of the

campaigning after tonight. if this issue is about the economy and about change in washington, look at this. donald trump has lopsided edges when voters are asked who's best on those issues. if he can focus on economy and change in washington that gives him standing. if this is about who has the temperament, the better role model, that is hillary clinton's wheel house. which is why you hear her repeatedly saying donald trump is unfit. new hampshire is showing trump momentum. but we'll keep an eye on that. and also in nevada. hillary clinton thought a week ago this state was moving her way and she was about to put it away. new poll out tonight shows a tie. 43% to 43%. if you look at nevada, look at florida, look at the tightening

national perspective. no question donald trump can claim some momentum. how much? we'll filter through that in the next few days. >> do the better numbers give trump a clear path to 270 electoral votes. >> clearer, yes. but still a steep climb. we're gonna have to look at zmef florida over the next couple of days. if the numbers are right. we have nevada leading blue. if donald trump can take that away. say i give it to donald trump for the sake of this map. if he's moving in dmnevada and n hold the state. say he gets nevada. but here is how it gets so hard for donald trump. say he has that momentum. he still has to be almost more than perfect in the final days. he has to win where he is tonight. north carolina. can't get to 270 without it.

he has to hold ohio. even if he does that. wins nevada, not easy. wins florida. not easy. wins north carolina, not easy. ohio not easy. let's give them to trump in this map. why is mike pence in utah tonight? because they still have a problem in the west. trump mest get that back. even if he does all that, and that is a perfect, perfect ten days ahead, he's still behind. even if they win the close races he has a ways to go. is it better for donald trump tonight? yes. is the hill still steep? absolutely. >> why should anyone believe the polls? if i'm sitting at home and watching tonight. for the last couple days the democrats have been youing about how good things look. andcrowing

about how good things look. and how accurate are these things. >> don't believe any one poll. average them out and look for friend lines. what is happening is -- remember, the tightening should not surprise people. donald trump cratered after the "access hollywood" tape. in the days since a lot of republicans have come home. we live in a very evenly divided country. there are skepticism about the polls but these are professionals. don't believe one. average them out and strap in. we've got 12 days left. >> donald trump campaigning in north carolina. back in the battleground state after a detour to washington where he attended a ribbon cutting just down pennsylvania avenue from the white house. that is where dana bash managed to pull him aside for a rare face-to-face interview. >> first i want to ask you about your event here. there is new another udio tape

that you really rely on the fact of your popularity and that people come to events and helps with free advertising. was that what this was about? >> under budget, ahead of schedule. that is what this is. under budget, ahead of schedule. we built a hotel that is going to be one of the great hotels of the world. opened officially today. and we built it for leisure money than anticipated and built it by ahead of schedule by over a year. and if the country would do that we wuf country that would be in much better shape. they build highways triple the cost. hospitals. >> and for people to say you are taking out of swing states to go do this, you say? >> i say the following. you have been covering me for the last long time. i did yesterday eight stops and three major speeches and i've been doing this for weeks straight. i left here for an hour and a half. i'm going to north carolina

right now. and florida and up to new hampshire. for you to ask me that question is actually very insulting because hillary clinton does one stop and then she goes home and sleeps. and yet you will ask me that question. i think it is a very rude question to be honest with you. and what i want to do i want to back my children. my children work very hard. ivanka in particular. and at the opening of the hotel i want to help my children. very important to me. we had a ribbon cutting which was quick and i stopped in d.c. but the real key to this is i want the american people to understand that this is under budget, ahead of schedule. and we need that for the united states. >> i have to say, you know, i've been reporting on the fact that you are going to north carolina for a couple of stops straight from here. but my next question is there is a new poll in florida that has you up a couple of points. other swing states have you really in the hunt. given that are you prepared to write a check to help yourself get over the finish line? and if so, how big? and i'm talk about advertising. >> let me just tell you that we have -- i'll have over a hundred

million dollars in the campaign. hillary clinton has nothing in the campaign. she's all special interest and donors and they give her the money and she will do whatever they tell her too do. but i will have over a hundred million dollars in the campaign and i'm prepared to go much more than that. now, here is the question. new polls are coming out. we're leading florida. doing great in pennsylvania. north carolina. really well in new hampshire. ohio as you know and iowa are doing fantastically well. i'm telling you, cnn doesn't say it, but i think we're going to win. >> to do that you have a pretty big bank account. you could -- and time is running out. the clock is ticking. will you write a check. >> i've already done it. already written a number of them. >> specifically to get up on the air to combat the ads you say hillary clinton is running against you. >> in florida she was 50 twun against me. >> you have the means to combat that. >> 50/1 and i'm leading.

in the old days you would spend less money and have a victory, that would be a good thick. today they want you to spend money. i'll have over a hundred million. i'm willing to spend much more than that in i have to. we're seeing in florida, other places, the lines going into voting booths, going into the voting areas are unbelievable. in florida yesterday we passed four of them. the lines were three and four blocks long. those are not her voters because her voters have no enthusiasm what over. >> could you be specific how much are you willing to put -- >> already over a hundred million in. i'm willing to informs more than that. >> like how much? >> don't, let's go for your next question dana. >> my les question because i'm getting the hook over here. in this speech here you talked about the fact that this is the second best piece of real estate on pennsylvania avenue. in 14 days are you hoping you are going to be spending after that more time here or down the

street? >> i just hope -- i built a great company. truly a great company with some of the great assets in the world and not only our country but others. and i predicted the brexit. and you were one of the people who asked about brexit. and i think the result is going to be the same if not more so. we are going to have i think a tremendous victory. people don't want four more years of obama. they don't want hillary with all of the corruption and all of the problems. and you see all of these wikileaks coming out and they are a disaster. and when you see john podesta who is terrible i think the way he speaks about her. but she has bad instincts. i think it is terrible. but so many other things. even worse than that about their honesty and dishonesty. i really think we're going to have a tremendous victory. and if i didn't think that i wouldn't say it. i would say well we're going to be fighting hard. i believe we are winning.

i actually think we are winning. i don't think it is a question of we're going to try and win. you start look at the polls what's happening and more importantly start looking at all the people going to vote and sending in ballots. we're way ahead in virtually every state, every area i think we're going to have a great victory. >> thank you mr. trump. >> dana joins us now. so why were you pressing him on the significance of he'll write a check. >> because i've heard more and more frustration voiced from republican whose want donald trump to win who think he can win in that he's fighting with one hand bind his back. and he even admitted to me he's being outspent on television ad, especially in places like florida. the complaint among republicans is he has the means to go one his own ads hitting her to have a fair fight. in fact i was told earlier this

month the rnc chairman reince priebus went to him and said please mr. trump, you have got to get out that bank account and add to -- yes he's already given many millions of dollars, tens of millions but even to give more because it is such a non traditional campaign he's running. he's sort of in never, never land when it comes to the fundraising mechanism certainly way different than any modern day republican or any presidential candidate has had. so that is the reason. it is because people think it is doable, it is gettable. but he needs to be fighting a fair fight. and for somebody like donald trump that means put your own money in. >> dana bash. thanks. let's bring in the panel.

how much of a difference do you think it could make? >> with 12 days left misi talked about a $100 million figure. he's currently right now according to reports at about 60 million. that would mean another $40 million in the next 12 days. that is a lot of monies, i don't think is going to happen. dana's reporting is correct. fw . there is a lot of frustration among republicans. he talks about his bank account. he has not put in his own money. i don't think it can make a difference now. it could have been made a difference on television ads many weeks ago, or working on a ground game and improving it or adding additional staff. he has never liked putting in his own money. he did put in a --

>> so what do you make of the polls? why do you think they are getting tightener florida? >> i think john is right. among other things, florida is a tricky state. president obama barely won in 2012. but he's right fwheer a partisan country. people are looking for that reason to vote either republican or democrat. and you also saw one thing that hasn't been talked about much. clinton started making it more of a partisan race. she now moved to helping down ballot democrats. by definition doing that it is going to make the race more parton and less about wooing independe independents. >> does that worry you she's focusing on down ballot. >> she wants to be able to govern. >> overconfident? >> no.

if you look at the polls average. she's up by six. which you got to remember i think the president won with less than 5 percentage points. for a divided polarizing country six is not a bad number and i want to talk about florida for a second. i think that poll, the blooper poll is an outlier. and bloomburg is historically known for bad sampling. the -- i'm sorry, the party id for republicans is plus four. which can't be the case because florida demographics is changing. african americans in that poll is at 12. and it should be between 14 and 15. so i think that poll is questionable. >> arguably whatever happens in florida there is still a tough path to 270 for donald trump. do you think the democrats are getting overconfident? >> yes i do. i think they have two problems. one they have the enthusiasm gap problem. and two they are got this overconfidence problem and the two together can be fatal for them. what donald trump has going for

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some of the polling turning favorable late today for donald trump. he's in north carolina wrapping it up. back with our panel. it is always fascinating because i remember -- i don't know. i feel like it was eight weeks ago it was all positive polls for trump and had momentum and now it switched and it's getting close. should the polls be believed? >> i think john is right. you look at the totality of all the polls to be fair. but i do think it is questionable for --. what we saw over the last two or three days, seven or eight events down in florida. >> do you think him spending time big events in florida is having the impact? >> some of that. when he gets to a local area he drives that local media coverage

which he does very well. large rallies and consumes the local media market. it is really good for him. if you look at places he's been recently they have been the traditional counties where you have to lock up your vote early. what we see right there the recent polls is a one point race which means anything can happen. >> he was getting flak from some for going to the hotel opening. i don't quite understand that. a, he's able to travel to a lot of different places and also to his point you saw him repeat multiple times in that interview, under budget, on time under budget. it does sort of reinforce his brand as a -- not a career politici politician, as a businessman who can do that for the country like he did his hotel, no? >> in dana's interview actually what i got interest that is again and his problem is going to be in the next 13 undisciplined he is.

he starts talking about hillary taking a net and it does not give the country viewers a clans to see talk about the issues they care about. which is number one. two, just in terms of florida, remember and this is on the cnn website. democrats are leading dramatically in the early voting. so 7.3 million americans have already voted. and aside from iowa democrats are doing far better than in 2012, including florida where they as cnn points out deeply cut into the advantage in early ballots cast by republicans so far. and largely in the ground game, in close states in the close election the ground game the democrats have is good for at least two or three points in those races. hillary clinton has 80-plus offices in florida. donald trump has almost nothing. the democrats have the labor movement in the industrial states in those close states. in nevada a lot of union, the casino workers, hotel workers

pulling out people. and part of that is because of donald trump's continuing feud with the republican establishment. he never put together the ground game and i think that is going to make the difference in the election. >> do you buy that scotty is this. >> it depends on what ground game you are talking about. this shows the difference from tw two campaigns from day one you have hillary clinton with a great ground game built on politician. donald trump has not built it on politicians. he built it on the people. >> that is not a ground game. >> -- in florida. not based on politicians. based on thousands of volunteers that knock. >> -- is a scam. and have you ever walked into the amazon and had it. you don't need brick and mortar anymore. the notion you have to have stores and offices -- >> -- >> -- cell phones and phones you can call from home. you can do this over the internet. you don't need to bring all these people in to have eighty offices around the state. it is ridiculous.

>> as someone who worked on the 2008 and 2012 campaigns that is insulting. and face to face and having a face to face program and knocking on doors and talking to voters actually works. >> it's not working. >> let her -- >> it's not working. >> trump is leading in florida. >> that is one outlier. the last several polls actually showed hillary clinton leading by three or four points in florida. and it is a battleground state. it is going to be close. >> and the reason the democrats have the lead in the early voting is because of the ground game. they go out and knock on doors and sign people up. -- >> okay. we got -- >> -- other night. why am i seeing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of trump signs all over and one hillary sign. that is part of the ground game. where is it? >> how do you explain in the

early voting, which is -- i'm going grant you something. let's say the polls are totally wrong. how you explain that the early voting is overly democratic. >> why do you assume they are all voting for hillary? >> no these are democratic -- >> oh for the democrats. >> come on. now year we're dealing at the ufo kind of level. democratic voters who are coming out to vote in early voting are voting for hillary clinton. >> you know this? >> all right. you really want to debate that? >> we'll debate that during the commercial. lot more to talk about on this hour. just ahead details from the latest trove of stolen campaign e-mails and including what her inner circle thought about her use of the private e-mail servers. stunning stuff ahead.

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wikileaks has been releasing thousands of hacked e-mails. more than a dozen batches so far having dogging the clinton campaign nearly every day almost a month. tonight there are new details about how key staffers reacted

and intriguing including ambiguous references to her head. jim sciutto has more. >> newly released e-mails show the distress in hillary clinton's inner circle the moment the news broke on march 17th. one of her longest serving advisors writing, quote, there is no good answer. one word per line. seemingly for emphasis. in other stolen e-mails on march 2nd and 3rd. a co-chair expressing blistering criticism of clinton's top aides handling of the private server issue. why didn't they get this stuff out like 18 months ago? so crazy. and continuing from a follow-up e-mail, i guess i know the answer. they wanted to get away with it. he specifically referenced cheryl mills. this is a cheryl special. know you love her but this stuff

is like her achilles heel or kryptonite. she just can't say no to this expletive. the clinton campaign has not commented on specific e-mails saying they are stolen and they can't verify their authenticity. the u.s. intelligence community blames the russian state for the hacks which has solely targeted the democratic party. several hacked e-mails make reference to clinton's head. some in the right wing media are drawing connection to her recover. in one september 26th 2015 john podesta writes to communication director how bad is her head? >> palmieri writes back. don't know. huma left about an hour ago. i just pinged again to ask about prep. haven't heard back. briefed my cnn a clinton campaign official did respond to this e-mail saying they are clearly about her frame of mind or her mood.

>> and jim sciutto joins us. when the clinton campaign was e-mailing about clinton's head what was going on at the time? >> in that specific instance, in the same 24 hour people a ap story broke talking about how the obama administration discovered the clinton campaign had not released a whole trove of e-mails after the clinton campaign said they had. reasonable to make a connection between that story and a campaign advisor asking where her head was on it. and another -- i can't believe we're talk about this anderson but again mentioning her head in regards to whether she had notes on a particular policy issue. whether to follow those notes or just go off script in effect. it is difficult to make a substantive connection between the mention of her head and any specific reference to what her state of mind was or her health was looking at these e-mails frankly doesn't seem to be a lot of there, there. >> that's a real conversation.

jim sciutto. thank you very much. joining us now our panel. galore yarks the words written by. i guess i know the answer they wanted to get away with it. i does reinforce the narrative. hillary clinton knew her e-mail server was wrong and when she got caught her aides, she tried to conceal it. her aides wanted to conceal it. >> it sure does. and it is a bad story line for her. it continues. and it hasn't seemed to move the needle at all anderson. and maybe it is because it is a little bit at this point, at this late in the game like saying oh there is gambling gong on here in casablanca. sure. of course hillary clinton plays by a different set of rules and the people who aren't going vote for her because of the e-mail have already decided to dismiss it. so the question is whether more of these revolutions will move

the needle in the future? i kind of tend to doubt it. these issues with hillary clinton have been around for a while. donald trump has trouble sticking to the script which it is talking about e-mails or obamacare premium increases. and so with a different candidate opposing her, it might ma have made more of a difference but right now i think it is a little late in the game and this stuff is already baked in. >> one of the other interesting things here there seems there was one faction within the clinton inner circle that wanted more transparency. wanted her to apologize right away and another faction that wanted her to weather the storm i guess. >> the people who have been around clinton for many years, including cheryl mills, they have never wanted any kind of transparency when there's been trouble around hillary clinton or bill clinton. whereas those charged with

winning an election like john podesta. they wanted transparency. remember her favorability ratings at this time coming out of being secretary of state were very high. they wanted her to appear transparent and do away with this old narrative of secrecy and hiding things and covering things up. so they were very frustrated by this. understandably. >> and gloria, you -- also wrote in the e-mails that hillary clinton has terrible instincts. how much does that hurt? >> the thing about nera candenise e-mails. the funny thing they all happy to be true. she doesn't have the greatest political instincts. she's a policy person, less than a political person. i think if it were up to hillary, there would be more

secrecy than maybe someone like john podesta would like. she's been in public life for 30 years. we've all watched her. and nera is kind of i think there stating the obvious. and you see this infighting between the folks who have been with hillary clinton for a very long time who want to protect her as carl says. and those who are kind of trying to get her elected president this time. and i think if she is elected, i would presume that this kind of stuff could continue. >> carl, the e-mail from gjen palmieri, she asked about hillary clinton saying how bad is her head? we were talk about that with jim sciutto. are people just going to see what they want in that comment? some might think it is a reference to her health. others her frame of mind. >> i think on that particular one, the at right movement, the bright barts, the drudges of the world will see it as they want but i don't think it will have

much traction as jim says. what's so fascinating about the e-mails is they show us who hillary clinton is in a kind of nuanced way. they are an accurate picture of her. both good and bad. the e-mails released about the speeches for goldman sachs show her how she likes policy. how she wants to have things both ways. there are a lot of nuance in these attentithings. it is a pretty good picture of her and at the same time it is not a flattering picture. and if donald trump is going win, perhaps the combination of what's in the e-mails in some ways the unflattering stuff along with the excitement generated by new poll numbers and other events then he might have a slight way to win. but is an advantageous thing for

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trump us surrogate newt gingrich went head to head last night with megyn kelly. but the fireworks really flew when she asked about the women who have accused trump of sexual assault. take a look. >> do you want to why donald trump has had a tough time -- >> he's not a sexual predator. >> he's not a sexual predator. >> sick and tired of people like you using language that is inflammatory that is not true. >> excuse me mr. speaker. you have no idea whether it is true or not. >> neither do you. >> right. and i'm not taking a position on it like you. >> -- very unfair for you do that megan. i think that is exactly the bias people are upset by.

>> i think your offensiveness may speak volumes. >> you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. that is what i get out of watching you tonight. >> do you know what mr. speaker, i'm not fascinated by sex. but i am fascinated by the protection of women and understanding what we're getting in the oval office. and i think the american voters would like to know. >> therefore we're going send bill clinton back to the east wing because after all you are worried about sexual predator. do you want to comment on whether the clinton ticket has a relationship to a sexual predator. >> we have covered that story as well sir. >> i want to hear your words. bill clinton sexual predator, i dare you. say it. >> excuse me sir -- >> -- >> excuse me. >> 850,000 on a penalty. >> excuse me sir. we on the kelly file have covered the clinton matter as well. we're going to have to leave it at that. and you can take your anger issues and spend some time working on them mr. speaker. >> and you too.

>> at the opening of his hotel today trump congratulated gingrich on that interview. >> by the way, congratulations newt on last night. that was an amazing interview. that was an amazing -- [ applause ] >> we don't play games, newt. right? we don't play games. >> joining me now our panel. amanda, you actually wrote about newt gingrich in that washington post. what do you make of that exchange last night? >> another example confirm of this unique ability i think trump has in bringing out the worst in people. in that clip you saw newt act condescending. shake his finger. and megyn kelly is app particular figure of interest in this political cycle because she

of course was the one who was the first to really publicly question donald trump about the sexist statements that he's made to women. and they have been hung up about that. they have targeted her again and again, labeled -- donald trump used his massive platform to label her a bimbo. and then newt gingrich saying she's obsessed with something she's clearly not. and she's questioning her ability to cover a story. they have been trying to take her down as a journalist many, many times and it just played out spectacularly last night on fox news. >> for newt gingrich to accuse megyn kelly as being fascinated by sex. third marriage. cheated on his first two marriages and was having an affair when he was accusing bill clinton. >> i think what you saw was two people passionate about the positions they have had. we're 13 days out from the election and that is a conversation happening at dinner

tables across the united states right now. >> for a male like him with his record on republiclationships, accuse megyn kelly as being fascinated by sex seems a particularly ironic. >> his main point is to point out journalists. >> i didn't hear the -- >> -- he did. look at the stories that actually do matter. like her pay for play speeches that are happening. and that was the point of that entire interaction. and it was very uncomfortable to watch. i'll be the first to admit it. those two are probably very good friends up until last night. they will be friends again but this is a divide that is happening and we at least have to respect it that at least the conversation is happening and hopefully it won't be too damaging. >> i think the word you were looking for was hypocritical. remember newt gingrich's wife when he was running in 2012 told all of u the media. said it to the camera.

newt gingrich offered her the choice between an open marriage or a divorce. so maybest, just maybe if all of that baggage is on your shoulders, maybe you shouldn't be the surrogate out there accusing the woman who was sexual assault and sex are two things. one is unwanted. one is wanted. so maybe they need to understand that to begin with. but --. and if you are going to get a surrogate to speak on it and wag his finger on national tv, maybe just maybe go find the pope or somebody that's been on his knees in a chapel for the last 20 years. not newt gingrich. >> was it a mistake for donald trump to at his event today single out newt gingrich talk about the interview last night? >> not in the slightest. because i think we're really misreading this conversation. and i quite frankly think this entire panel discussion is emblematic of america's frustration about what's going

on now. we're having conversations about newt gingrich's sexual frustrations and the donald trump's and feels like the --. when newt gingrich said you are obsessed with sex. meaning the media. you were obsessed with sex. he was talk about public policy. >> all you have been covering lately is sex stuff. >> as an example of what the mainstream media is doing. >> there is a difference between sex and sexual assault as anna pointed out. and what megyn kelly is talking about is sexual assault. >> what everybody focus group has told us is they don't want to hear what we're talk about right now. they want to hear about public policy. >> what every rating point tells you is that is not true. when that tape of donald trump is released it was -- probably it was the most downloaded most clicked on famous one of the biggest stories of this campaign so far which tells me that it is not a media fascination. it is a public fascination. >> i'm not saying that shouldn't

have been covered. it absolutely should have been covered but the degree of coverage when media research says we cover that 7/1 over wikileaks, which actually effects public policy. >> -- just about media bias then? >> i think if there is one issue that donald trump has campaigned on deliberately relentlessly is media bias and what played out in that interview is really interesting. and it gets to donald trump cheerleading, high fiving newt gingrich publicly for taking it to megyn kelly. this is fox news. this is a friendly place for newt gingrich for many years. he's a contributor there. they have respected him as an intellectual heavyweight to talk about republican policies. this is a friendly interview and now they are to the point where they are so in the barricade with themselves that they think megyn kelly is out to get them? and you can see why this is hurting his campaign. ivanka trump who's supposed to be appealing to all the independent progressive minded women, she's so boxed in.

when she -- she can't even take questions before an audience because they are so so in the hole. they talked up this thing about media bias so much that they themselves can not talk to anyone else. >> you have to ask yourself, if if trump says what people want to hear about is policy and agenda, why did he bring it up today some why did he high five newt gingrich for that ridiculous exchange with a woman with whom trump talk about her menstrual cycle 15 months ago? why are you picking a fight with this conservative darling? if you are calling fox media biased -- >> i want to get response to that. we'll continue conversation in a minute. when you have a cold, you just want powerful relief.

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we're back talking about newt gingrich's contentious interview with megyn kelly. i want to play his reaction again. >> by the way, congratulations, newt, on last night. that was an amazing interview. that was an amazing -- we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> let's continue. i want to give you an opportunity to continue. >> i'm sure that megyn appreciates your defense. she does not consider herself the conservative media darling. she has prided herself on being an independent journalist.

the segment was about sex and not exactly what american female voters wanted to focus on. american females want to hear about immigration. economy. supreme court justices. >> you don't think character is a major issue for many voters? >> for american women, they're going to decide with their heads. they're going to talk about the issues that affect their pocket books. the once that affect their families. more on the wallets and their jobs. >> why is he not doing well among women in. >> well, because republicans have had a problem with women. the fact that we have this divide. maybe it was we were under romney. but the divide that we have right now, the truth is, 74% of republicans are saying that they're going to support donald trump right now. that's a good number. that includes many females. the females are saying i'm not looking to him to teach my children values. to be an example of a role model about how they should treat others. my husband, the men in the

family, they are twoungs set the example. i'm looking for a leader of my country that will revive the economy and protect our families. that's why they're voting for donald trump. >> it is amazing today that people no longer expect the president of the united states to set an example for the country. and i'm not blaming this on donald trump. you can make the same argument about bill clinton when he was in the white house. when i was a kid, you grew up -- >> i don't agree with that. i think that in today's culture, certainly, leaders much more accessible than they once were. we see them in situations we never did because of snap chat and social media and all that. but i think we absolutely look at the leader of the free world, the president of the united states, at the first lady, as someone that permeates through culture into all of our lives and does set an example for children, for adults, does set an example for foreign lead erkss does set an example for all americans. the duty, the responsibility,

the weight of representing all smerns something that means and requires character. >> not at this point. whn we're $19 trillion in debt. we've seen our military is in a horrible state. we're seeing people without jobs, health care costs going up. i never told my child, yes, professionally it is great to be president. looking up to president obama. but for some things he's done, i do not see him as a hero. >> my problem is if i think the president is the lowest form of life, if i think he is an orange amoeba, i cannot get on discuss policy. i'm stuck down there. at the fact that he is not fit to be president. >> but it is unfortunate the way that donald trump has coarsened the political culture in such a way. and i do hope it is temporary. i hope the conversations that trump and the male leaders of the country like newt gingrich and others have started by supporting him and being condescending to women at the same time has opened up a new opportunity for conservative women. i hear conservative women

talking about, i've never heard conservative feminism before. maybe we need a new way. maybe we need to call the men to be chivalrous and support us in the workplace and make a new modern effort. that's not outdated. clearly there's some work to be done and i think it is somewhat generational for the republican men. you see people like donald trump act like. this i never saw my bosses like ted cruz, i never saw marco rubio like this. we have to learn the lesson that's we see playing out. >> what is so interesting to me here, there has been such an effort to caricature donald trump as a male chauvinist xyz. the media has done a great job trying to make him that. nibble stats and numbers. i look at the fox poll that just came out. guess what? donald trump is only trailing among women by 8 points among registered voters. that is better than romney ropp, better than john mccain, that is tied with george w. bush. so this whole notion that we're

marred with women forever. does not bear that out. this panel is not representative of the way republican voters think. as scotty pointed out, the same number of republicans are consolidating around trump as democrats around clinton. there is not an exodus of women. there is in washington, d.c. but the average republican woman is not represented by this. >> just another extension of the point largely made by the trump campaign about media bias. they have picked a fight with the media. they have assumed the worst about the so-called main stream media. >> their reaction has been to expect people like megyn kelly to be biased for them. that's what breitbart is all about. for them to have an agenda for them. that's not the appropriate reaction if you want to bring unity in the country. it comes from a place of vengeance. it is very angry. >> let -- >> do you know what the approval of the main stream media is

right now? >> why don't you -- >> i went to harvard law school and i mean in numbers and facts. >> when you look at, i have a law degree from harvard. >> did you study there for years? >> no. >> for gallup, the media has the lowest approval rating in recorded history. >> are not you doing what donald trump says it does? that you can things and you went to a fancy school that i didn't? that's what donald trump's campaign has become its own worst enemy. accusing the democrats all the time they say that hillary clinton was an enabler. >> i want you to know, we were working on republican campaigns way before you were. for you to sit there and say we're not representative of republican swem a miss take. we need learn to live with our differences. we need on learn to era