that is it for me. thanks very much for watching ux i'm wolf blitzer "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. next, the breaking news duelling trump and clinton rallies at this hour, 30 miles apart as polls show a neck and neck race. and melania trump hits the campaign trail saying as first lady she'd take on internet bullies and will she start at home? and trump taking on other stuff. let's go "outfront." donald trump and hillary clinton only 30 miles apart in north carolina. it is a must-win state for donald trump. we're going to be taking you there. these are the final arguments in

the final hours of this race. and the latest national polls show the race is tightening even more with only five days to go. the cnn poll of polls which is an average of the polls nationwide shows clinton up by four. cbs news, "new york times," equilibrate up by three. abc news, washington post clinton up today by two. hillary clinton who's victory depends on turning out the same people who voted for president obama, attacking trump today over his treatment of african americans. >> he retweets white supremacists and spreads racially tinged conspiracy theories. donald trump was endorsed by the official newspaper of the ku klux klan. >> of course an endorsement he rejected. donald trump making his closing argument today, slamming clinton over the e-mail probe. >> she shouldn't even be allowed to run for the office of president. she shouldn't be allowed.

and that is where the system is rigged. she shouldn't be allowed. >> melania trump making a rare appearance on the trail in pennsylvania today. she gave a speech and spoke about her experience as an immigrant. >> i grew up in a small town in slovenia near a beautiful river and forests. of course we always knew about the incredible place called america. america was the word for freedom and opportunity. america meant if you could dream it, you could become it. >> a lot to get to tonight with these five days to go. phil mattingly at the clinton rally in raleigh. and jim acosta near selma north carolina at the trump rally. you have a preview of his speech tonight trying to make his key closing case.

>> reporter: that's right. donald trump is trying to put some cracks in hillary clinton's firewall in this state. a trump campaign official says trump will be delivering a speech focused on national --. and foreign policy issues tonight. when he gets up on the stage behind me i'm told he'll have seven medal of honor recipients with him. and during his remarks will be talk about the plans to build up the nation's navy and air force. all critical issues in this state where military issues are very very important. but we should also point out something we've been seeing the last 72 hours and that is donald trump staying on message, avoiding that incendiary rhetoric that has thrown his campaign off course from time to time throughout the course of this campaign. but that doesn't mean he's holding back. he's still going after hillary clinton's e-mail controversy. but consider how he responded to president obama earlier today. the president has been going right after donald trump but the words trump had to say for the president is that he should be back in the oval office working for the american people and not

campaigning for a candidate who once questioned -- [indiscernible] . >> thank you jim acosta. as you can see packed rallies. trump going to be giving the speech on foreign policy and the military. we'll bring that draw you live. phil mattingly in north carolina, raleigh where hillary clinton is going to be taking the stage. >> reporter: laser focused really all day today on african american voters and with good reason. as you dig through the early vote in the state of north carolina. the crucial state of north carolina. there's been a noticeable drop in african american votes for democrats up to this point compared to 2012. clinton campaign advisors say look. there are two very good reasons. first and foremost president obama is not at the top of the ticket. second there will have been a l changes in state law reducing

polling places and days african americans can actually vote. that doesn't mean they are letting this issue go. hillary clinton very focused on this issue in her first rally today in north carolina. just a few minutes ago showed up for an unscheduled stop at north carolina central university. a historically black college. where she and pharrell, the fusi musician showed up there. and will soon be on the stage here in raleigh talking about the same issues with pharrell again. and also trying to target another crucial part of that coalition they are trying to turn out, millennials. bernie sanders will be joining the stage with hillary clinton, with pharrell. if the clinton campaign has its way this is a big day for a big boost in lagging early vote numbers against african american, erin. >> thank you very much. and david chalian now out front in washington. new polls out tonight. it is getting tight and tighter. >> new polls in new hampshire --

that was maine. let's get to new hampshire. a new poll out today. one point edge for donald trump. another poll in new hampshire, dead heat. 42% to 42%. certainly that is welcome news in the trump campaign. he also got pretty good news in the state of utah. take a look at this new poll. evan mcmullin, the never trumper, the third party candidate not surging in this poll. 24% compared to donald trump's 37%. even hillary clinton is ahead of mcmullin. so donald trump may be able to count on these six electoral votes in utah and he'll need them. one bit of heartburn that may be causing the trump campaign is in the state of georgia. look at this new poll. nbc wall street journal maris just out. 45% to 44%. a one point trump lead in a state that hasn't gone democratic since 1992. >> which is pretty state your naming. i know that you have looked through this david. and yousy there could be up to

six paths to victory for trump. which of course, you know, a week ago there was maybe one. so obviously this has changed dramatically. but there are a couple that you think are perhaps most likely if he is to win. like what? >> exactly. let's look at two of the most likely paths here. this is the battleground map. the one path we've been talking about the is the no room for error path. this is if we give donald trump all of the remaining battleground and toss-up states on the map. he still doesn't get there. he flips new hampshire and then steals that one congressional district up in the top of maine. that one extra electoral vote would get him to 270. that is the most narrow and one of the most likely. also there is the dream scenario that the trump campaign always wanted to sort of run which was the rust belt strategy. here he would not need as many of the battleground states. so let's say donald trump, you know, takes utah as we said. hangs on to arizona.

takes florida. takes ohio. he's not there yet. but now head up here. if he could get michigan, wisconsin, that would get him to 270. if he could get pennsylvania or would have been michigan and wisconsin. this is that rust belt strategy relying on those white, working class voters to see if he could really generate turnout. the polls right now are not with him in those states erin but this is probably the next most likely path. >> thank you very much david chalian. and income in some of those states you have tons and tons of policy. florida and north carolina. in others michigan michigan and wisconsin you don't have many polls. harder to ascertain what's really happening.you don't have. harder to ascertain what's really happening. our panel joins us now. phillip, let me start with you. five days to go. we've laid out here at cnn six

possible paths. they are narrow but a week ago there were not six paths but maybe one and involved a lot of hope and prayer. now you have six. david laying out two of the more likely. you say trump has never been closer to the presidency than tonight. >> i still think this is likely hillary clinton will win. the closest trump has been other the course of the a campaign is a tie. he's basically out a tie right now. the first scenario david laid out is the most likely. he has to win florida, ohio and has to win either pennsylvania or north carolina. if on election night he loses one of those four states it is done. if he loses both pennsylvania and north carolina it is done. that highlights the fact that as close as he is right now the fact that this is not quite yet a jump ball but getting close if the trends continue it is going to be a jump ball. the fact that he's this close at this point and is staying on message is about as good as you could home. >> john. >> donald trump is trying to be

more disciplined than he has been in the past. we've got five days. that seems reasonable. he's coaching himself using his outside voice. "don't screw it up donald, stay on message" but let's look at the reality of the maps. they involve scenarios where donald trump basically runs almost the table. >> little room for error. >>s that the nicest way to say it. i involves everything going right for a candidate who doesn't have much organization. doesn't seem to be hitting benchmarks that even mitt romney had hit. so there are scenarios and he's had momentum since comey's letter. no question. but let's be real about the scenarios we're talking about because they are farfetched. possibly but not by in means likely at this stage. >> mihe's going to be speaking a few moment, introducing veterans and giving a speech on foreign policy. he has stayed on message. and he does have a voice in his head telling him to do this.

here is how he put it at a rally. >> stay on point, donald. stay on point. no sidetracks, donald. nice and easy. nice -- because i've been watching hillary the last few days. she's totally unhinged. we don't want any of that. >> i love that. i cannot watch that enough. he's -- someone was saying that to him. and he has been repeating that. i just want to go back to the polls for one second and say this. there is no question obviously that we're seeing the polls tighten. but i want to say two words, president romney. it didn't happen. and the poll, they thought on election day, a source of mine was on the surrogates call on election day and called me and said mitt romney is the next president of the united states. and i looked at our data and i said no he's not. they got it wrong. so we have to be careful with these polls. they are sometimes not what we think. the other thing is there's been

a lot of talk about the shy trump vote. we went back and we looked at the primaries. he did not overperform. sometimes he underperformed. sometimes overperformed. but there wasn't some shy trump vote that in every primary he came out and was doing so much better. >> interesting point. david? >> you may have two words on your mind tonight. president romney. i have one and that is brexit. it was unimaginable that brexit would pass in the united kingdom. and then in the last few days it started breaking towards, polls started picking up and there was a much bigger movement than anybody thought. and it was the shy vote that came out. i think hillary should definitely still be in the camp of being favored. but cannot discount brexit. >> and early voting confirms that. we talk about 2012, he's winning in early voting in florida by 18,000 right now. romney was losing. he's 90,000 votes more in north

carolina than romney. he can absolutely win this. and i completely agree with the brexit analysis. especially when you look at the bloomberg poll from that week ago. and one percent of voters said they didn't want to say who they were voting for and you have another set of voter whose just hang up the phone. >> the endorsement of the kkk paper. they are immediately disgusted by it. a robo call they are immediately disgusted by it. --. host suggested kkk leader david duke deserved a bullet to the head. >> if i said exactly what you said i'd get killed for it. but i think i'm say it anyway. the guy does deserve a bullet. these aren't good people. >> look, we've gotten to the point now where donald trump gets cookies and ice cream and

applause for saying bad things about the klan. that is a very low bar and a very low standard in the united states of america. so very good he said something birthd bad -- here is the reality. a tie is not good for trump. these folks are right. there could be a big surge out there we do not catch, we do not see. part of the reason i think you have got so much low voter turnout is because democrats were complacent until friday. until friday democrats were saying we've got this in the bag. i think there could be two surges. both from hard core democrats and others. but if you have a tie, if those numbers are correct we have an operation to get to two more points. so donald trump needs to be up by two to match our turnout. >> and when you go with what jamie is saying, president rommy, kayleigh you look at what the way things wor in 2012. virtually tide. obama won by four. hillary clinton is already up by four. you would get to eight.

that would be an almost unprecedented landslide if you look at that way if past is precedent. >> we have only intangibles here. there is so much enthusiasm on trump's side and we saw the enthusiasm kind of flip in the poll numbers in the abc poll after the fbi investigation. republicans have come home as mike pence likes to say. 87% are supporting donald trump. 80% of the democrats supporting clinton. there are some intangibles here. a criminal investigation and a lot of enthusiasm for trump. >> one quick point. the enthusiasm flipped, the post abc poll and now the enthusiasm is back. >> let's talk about the demographic map for a second. it was a major theme in 2012. is and the country is not getting more white. campaigns on that appeal are have a fundamental problem. reaching out is a process. denouncing a k cakk endorsement not akin to reaching out. it jest reflects of common

sense. and he's got a demographic math problem that cannot be ignored or the belief that there will be a mythical undiscovered white vote that will come out. it may be determinative in a couple of states and he has momentum in the wake of the comey letter but you didn't ignore the democratic path. >> we have this fundraiser tonight. huma abedin who's not been by clinton's side since the day this was announced. she's been mia t a this fundraiser in washington. we have a picture of her just arriving. that is it. that's as visible as she's going to possibly be. but this says something about the clinton campaign and how they are running right now and how hillary clinton does not have her confidant, her closest friend might be the right word for huma, by her side. >> absolutely. and just to go back to the enthusiasm thing. there is no question that trump

has had enthusiasm. and no question as we've seen from her surrogates out there that hillary clinton has needed enthusiasm. but i just want to go back to brexit because we looked into a that as well. and actually our polling director, other pollsters we've talked to said it is not comparable because the way they did the polling in the uk is so different from the way we poll. now polls can be wrong and different -- >> -- momentum went to brexit towards the end -- >> correct. but it was the way they did the samplings did not show what was happening there. so again polls can be wrong -- >> -- moved the last three or four g days on brexit. there was difference in the techniques but it is not an irrelevant fact. >> david makes a good point at the trends and terminology. the other thing that is analogous is that ukip which had been really pushing for the

brexit vote like many through western europe and the united states are about a reaction to globalization frequently ethnonationalists in response about concern about not only terrorism but immigration and other real factors. the other factor with brexit is it wasn't a top of the ticket vote. it was a referendum. >> isn't this a referendum -- >> -- in britain if it had been about labor versus conservative you would have seen even more representative tournament. >> when she says isn't this a referendum? yes. this isn't a republican/democrat. you have many republican leaders not supporting donald trump. this is change versus the status quo. this is the people versus the elite. this is everyone versus washington. the as referendum. >> -- bottom line fash second. that is that hillary clinton is still the favorite. >> yes. >> the chances of trump winning have actually gone up. >> van final word here. >> if it is not zero percent, it is a chance.

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donald trump about to speak in north carolina. a policy speech. we're going there live. and hillary clinton tonight also. as trump's wife melania made a rare appearance today on the trail. melania trump tried to broaden her husband's appeal to voters in the crucial swing state of pennsylvania. did she deliver? miguel marquez is out front. >> i come here today to talk about my husband donald. >> she should be one of donald trump's most powerful surrogates. melania trump making a late entry into an election season in full frenzy. >> this is not an ordinary campaign. it is a movement.

>> reporter: mrs. trump spoke about her legal journey to america. tried assure voters about the donald trump she knows and issues she'd champ as first lady. >> our culture has gotten too mean and too rough. especially to children and teenagers. it is never okay when a 12-year-old girl or boy is mocked bullied or attacked. >> the speech delivered in the all important philadelphia suburbs where a fourth of the state's voters live. >> thank you very much. you have all been very kind to donald and me. to our young son baron and to our whole family. >> reporter: trump's third wife absent p since her disastrous speech at the republican national convention where it emerged she had plagiarized in part michelle obama. >> i moved on her like a [ bleep ] but i couldn't get

there and she was married. >> reporter: worse she felt humiliation when donald trump was caught in 2005 speaking in a lewd manner about women. >> when you are a star they let you do it. you can do anything. >> reporter: when several women subsequently came forward claiming trump had been sexually aggressive with them. melania trump stood by her husband. >> they were lies and as i said before all the accusations, they should be handled in a court of law. >> it is not just melania on a trump family nationwide full-court press. in the east ivanka trump with rallies in two towns in new hampshire. donald trump jr. hitting two towns in colorado and eric trump in wisconsin with four rallies. absent only tiffany trump, his daughter from his second marriage to marla maples. she was on the trail yesterday.

>> donald trump did promise that melania trump would speak two or three times. this is the only speech scheduled so far. looks like this may be a one and done. >> thank you miguel. let's bring back our our panel now. and melania was speaking in chester county. a philly suburb. just barely went for mitt romney. he's got to win that. and she talked about her up bringing and working as the model. and what she would do as first lady. who did she reach here? did she win anybody over? >> classically the philly suburbs are classic swing district. for her to make her first speech that's clearly tablgt cal on the campaign's part. she's appealing figure who as an american immigrant success story and she can communicate that powerfulfully. is it relatable. it is very difficult to relate to somebody who works hard as

the model and now lives on the 61st floor of the trump tower. she speaks about the american values she believes in. those values are self evidently discordant with much of her husband's actions and rhetoric on the campaign trail and on social media. so what she also said she wanted to take on social media bullying as a cause. it rubs directly into his own behavior. >> she was talk about cyber bullying and specifically when it comes to kids. here she is today. >> it is never okay when a 12-year-old girl or boy is mocked bullied or attacked. it is terrible when that happen ordinance the playground and it is unacceptable when it is done by someone with no name hiding on the internet. >> -- proudly behind anything he does behind the internet. he's very public about it.

a lot of people are talk about what she said there specifically because of some of his tweets. like this one. rosie o'donnell the target. crude, rude, obnoxious and dumb. other than they like her very mature. hundreds of tweets like this in donald trump. >> as my friend mitch said when he heard this. he said she please start by throwing away his twitter account. he has become the poster child for bullying. crooked hillary, little marco. in person, online. remember miss universe. i think we have the tweet up here. this was september 30, 2016. crooked hillary help disgusting, parentheses, check out sex tape in past, alicia m become a u.s. citizen so she could use her name in the debate. there was no sex tape by the

way. of all the causes that a potential first lady could pick. >> unless he's ib credibly self aware. >> we could all attack donald trump here but i this i if we're going to talk about cyber bullying this is an anonymous person attacking someone. donald trump has punched back at jeb bush for things who have attacked him. i think it is very different. but i think the clintons will be able to learn from our new first lady in january because consequently someone a victim of bullying and made it her cause but monica lewinsky. she's talk about the kind of bullying monica lewinsky was subject to and the clintons can learn from her. >> this is all distasteful. let my say is a couple of things. this is very difficult do what melania trump is doing. she did not marry someone who is going to run for office. >> she doesn't want -- >> she's not a political wife. somebody who got married. raising a family. her husband decides do this. she stepped up to the plate and

she got hurt because the machine around her let her read a very bad speech and you've seen her claw her way back. >> a great speech. >> bad for her. it was a great speech. we can throw all the mud and that stuff. but listen, if you are looking for inspiration in this campaign, her ability to come back and get back out there and try again is something we can actually applaud. >> my point is that i don't think it helps him much at this point for two reasons. one because i think people have made up their mind. but two, that kind of thing just doesn't feel very genuine when you are -- >> so she made a pitch today though to the question of who she might be winning over. obviously women is core. he's behind by ten with women. here is specifically what she said about women in this country today. >> the women in america incredible. they are strong, intelligent, generous, committed, determined. >> in the abc news washington

post tracking poll clinton was ahead with white women with college degrees 27 points. trump with white women without college degrees up by 28 points. can melania being out there motivate those women, get them to go to the polls? >> i think being in the counties in philadelphia is very important. this election -- [indiscernible] . it was really interesting kate perry volunteered to go anywhere last weekend. where do you want her to perform. the clinton people asked her please sing in philadelphia because they know how important that is. but i want to come back to this. i'm very sympathetic with the melania trump. i think van is right. this is not easy for her to appear. but it is about more than bullying that is at stake here. this is about the coarsening of the american politics. it is about the change in culture that we've seen. and with all due respect it is not just her husband but eric trump today talking about david

duke deserves a bullet. that kind of talk about violence which we see again and again is something to be -- >> -- target. >> and donald jr. he talked about the relationship with the press and how bad that relationship had been and talked about warming up the gas chamber. this is someone who made a joke about the aurora film after the massacre out there. there is a tendency here and i'm not saying the clintons come to this with clean hands. there's been a lot of issues raised about the clintons. but i agree with the proposition why would she go here to make this a central part. >> from a political point of view she does something good and then we beat her up for doing something good because -- >> no -- >> listen. at a certain point -- listen i just -- >> >>[chatter]. >> somebody wants to stand up

against bullying in this election and we're going to beat her up for it? >> the temperament has been a thing people are concerned about. she had a great opportunity to go up and tell her story. what we're talk about is what she said about social media and bullying. she should have left it out. if she had left that out then we would have focused on the one thing that wasn't donald trump -- >>[chatter]. >> you work for a newspaper. you get to pick what words you cover. you could have picked to cover her story. which by the way was 95% of the speech of you are cover the one statement and pick at it and say it is hypocritical. the media chooses what to cover. this is what you're covering. >> this is what we're talking about. >> overall tone and tenor of this campaign which has been coarse to david's point, which

has been about bullying and elevating to the presidential level which we haven't seen. so when that all of a sudden becomes the pull bpit you chooso loo climb -- it begs to be pointed outlet because it is contrary to the entire tone and tenor of the campaign. >> we should also applaud her for trying to raise it too. >> the other is president obama versus donald trump. which is going on and on. president obama say some used the word trolling. perhaps inappropriate social media joke. but basically everywhere president obama is going is trying to. >> from working folks. people say well he's going to be our voice? are you serious? you don't see him hanging out with working people, unless they're cleaning his room. or mowing the fairways on his golf course. >> he's down here campaigning

for crooked hillary. why isn't he back in the white house bringing our jobs back? and helping our veterans? why? why isn't he back working? he's campaigning every day and i actually think, considering that she is under criminal investigation. i think he's actually got a conflict. >> interesting here is president obama going after him. donald trump, yes, taking the bait a little but staying on message about the fbi investigation and then in a tweet talking about obamacare. which resonates with a lot more people than his base. there are a lot of people effected by the increases in premiums in obamacare. and trump saying you should be work wog on that. does that work? is that effective. >> what part of that? >> donald trump staying on the messages and keep hammering on the fbi investigation and obamacare. >> listen, i think the turn in

the last few days started before the comey letter. it start to a large extent with the obamacare announcement. that was a jolt. nobody expected numbers that high. and politics started to change. i think they need to keep the focus on both. but he's running against hillary clinton. that is what mobilizes his base. president obama is much more popular than hillary clinton and he's much more popular than donald trump. from my point of view he's start better off to stake with hillary clinton. >> president obama is as smart as they come. he's shooting. he's shooting. he's shooting. he wants to draw the fire to him. and. >> he's succeed skblg and every time he's attacking obama that's great. obama has plenty -- he can bleed out all he wants to. obama is very very smart about this. he drew fire. and we're talk about that now and not another attack on hillary. >> i think it could be counterproductive for hillary clinton. and here is why. he's popular, very likable and gives a great speech. >> and saved the economy.

>> and when he stands up there and says to the crowd, thanks obama, thank me for obamacare and asked the crowd to thank him and a week later we get the numbers and he stands on a stage hey you have to vote for me to preserve my legacy? voters are concerned about preserving their economic -- >> but i don't think the tack that the president --. he's above 50% approval at this time. president obama is more than double what george w. bush was at this point. and that in itself speaks to a cushion that hillary clinton has to work with. what's interesting is that the president is also trying to draw a response from donald trump. >> and succeeding. >> but donald trump is being much more disciplined than in the past. >> keeping it professional. >> trying to keep it very professional because he knows that is his strongest suit in the closing week. >> although he didn't have to bring president obama up. and every time donald trump says

something about president obama and how he should be doing work and so forth. i don't imagine how that helps with the black vote. and also donald trump seems to got get that he has to have congress do things. he doesn't get to do themselves. the reason the president obama is where he is is because of the congress. and there's a disconnect. >> there only so much of keep it cool donald that we can do. and the other thing is this is smart by president obama. he's out there trying to help get out the vote. if he's taking him on and in addition. >> he can bleed as much as he can bleed. doesn't matter. he's not running. thanks to everybody. and don't miss the election day coverage. every race. all day coverage on tuesday and "outfront" next standing by for hillary clinton. speaking live in north carolina with bernie sanders. are you are going hear ha and donald trump taking the stage 30 miles away. any moment we're going to be

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in north carolina. about 30 miles apart. they are neck and neck in the poll there is and just in, new early voting numbers from north carolina. mark preston is "outfront" at tonight's decision desk with the big number. because the numbers are crucial from north carolina. >> the overall number right now, five days before election day and nearly 31 million people in 38 states across the nation have cast their ballot so far. all eyes are on north carolina as we speak right now. a little more than 2 million peel have cast ballots in that state. let's see how the political parties are doing. democrats are a bit of a sizable lead at this point. about 243,000 votes that have been sent back in for democrats. it is not the greatest news however because if you look at 2012 and compare it's been a decrease. back then at this time, 307,000 votes democrats had in the lead

over republicans. so why is that? let's look at the issue of race in this state right now and see what those numbers are showing us at this point. right now the african american electorate equal about 23% of those returned ballots at this point. hispanic voters about 1.8. 2012 wlook at that. that is a decrease of about 5.3% of african american participation from 2012 to 2016 in the early vote. that is why we saw barack obama lobbying so hard yesterday in north carolina to try to get the vote out. he's also return again friday and as you noted donald trump, hillary clinton both in the state tonight, erin. >> and obviously those early votes and perhaps a warning sign for her there. i'm about to speak with the independent presidential candidate evan mcmullin and he could become the first third party candidate to win a state since 1968. obviously the whole thing could

hinge upon utah. how is he doing there? >> a new poll from monmouth university a few hours old. let's look if we can. donald trump is in the lead. he has a six point lead over hillary clinton. evan mcmullin comes this third with 24%. what's troubling for evan muck mcyou will -- mcmullin is trump is beating him by some points. if hillary clinton were to win utah that would be troublesome to donald trump as he tries to reach that goal of 270 votes. while evan mcmullin is not in the driver seat at this point he's in third place, he still is getting significant support right now out in utah and that could be help hillary clinton win utah. not saying it is going to happen but it could happen. >> thank you very much. "outfront" now independent

presidential accountant, evan mcmullin. sean spicer was on the show a couple days ago and he told me trump is going win the state hands down. what is he missing? >> well i think he's missing that people in utah are just not excited about donald trump at all. that is why he's struggling to win the state that mitt romney won and other republicans have won by large, large margins. that is the bigger story here. we saw the monmouth poll come out today. but it had a poll come out two weeks ago that had me at 20% when everyone else had us at 29-30%. in this addition of their poll they have us up 4% from two weeks ago. so the methodology must be different there. the methodology they are using is different interest the ones other pollsters are using but either way it show us gaining traction. look, i would say this rngs i would say that what's happening

now is people in utah are seeing the race tighten. they are also seeing additional information about hillary clinton's corruption. that makes them very nervous. people in utah are very uncomfortable with donald trump and opposed to him. but they also don't like hillary clinton due to her corruption and big government policies. so our job, my job in this campaign is to convince utahens that they should come on board with our strategy. which is in this case that the election is so tight if they vote with us, if they stay with us and we can win a state or two, we can block both hillary clinton and donald trump. but that is what's happening here. people are very nervous about the additional information they see coming out about hillary clinton. >> and you have obviously, you know, if salesperson gains play out, scenarios, you could get them to 269, 269. thattise your play. but look it is very possible evan that thanks to you siphoning off traditional republican voters utah goes democratic the first time since

1964. in that case it could be utah that holds trump back in the white house. >> i don't see it. >> but if that happen, some say look, you are sitting here evan. you are the guy republicans say anyone other than trump is a vote for hillary clinton. what do you say to those people that say you could be helping her win? >> erin, i would just say this. this is one poll. this has been an outlier poll for a while. the point is all the other polls show a neck and neck race between donald trump and me. or they say that i'm in first place or donald trump is in first place or that it is a neck and neck race. donald trump is going to win utah or i'm going to win utah. it is not going to be hillary clinton. she has a ceiling there. she's not going to be able to do it. it is going to be donald trump or it is going to be me. so our pitch is to the utah people, what do we want utah to stand for in this race? do we want utah to stand for the foundational principles like equality and liberty that have made the country great or are we going to go with donald trump who's launched and carried out a

divisive, bigoted sexist campaign. that is not what utah stands for. that is not what this country stands for. >> you called ate the bigoted campaign. the trump campaign denounced a robo call from a white nationalist in your state. attacked your mother's sexuality and accused you of being a closet home sexual. which is nasty. sean spicer told me you were way off base. the call was disgusting and rereprehensible but hen then he said for you to turn it back on them on the trump campaign is almost as reprehensible. those are his words. what do you say to that? >> the man who did the robo call is a delegate for trump. you know erin, today we received news that some of trump's supporters who are out there raising money and putting up billboards for trump. these again are white nationalist, white supremacists

are now calling for a mormon genocide. that is what we're up against here. this is, you know, consistent with what donald trump has done in our country. this is consistent with this movement that he's created, that attacks people base on their gender, race, religion. this is what we're standing up to. we believe this country can be unified. we believe that we can be a diverse country and still approximate unified as americans. that is what we're fighting for. >> evan mcmullin. thank you very much. appreciate your time. and next, hillary clinton and donald trump both speaking live any moment. they have been a little delayed but as you can see these are now getting under way. we're going there live and of course it could all come down to florida, again. >> go out and vote like we never voted before. my belly pain and constipation?

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storming florida in the final days of the race. they have to win there. new polls show a dead heat in that state. boris sanchez is "outfront" with our special series on the battlegrounds. >> reporter: if the road to the white house goes through florida, then that road is this one, interstate 4. the 140 mile coast to coast highway across central florida has become the state's center of political gravity. floridas i-4 corder and it starts along the east coast here in daytona beach where a rise in the number of registered republicans have turns the once reliably blue county purple. the clinton campaign is targeting african americans. >> we voting baby. >> go out and vote like we never voted welfare. can -- before. can we do it? yes. let's do it. >> i feel good about seeing all

the younger people here who remind me of another period during the day of the civil rights movement. they know the lesson, they know the stories. they are going to turn out and vote. >> traditionally redder areas like sanford in seminole county. donald trump and his surrogates have made more than a dozen appearances along the corridor since the convention. hoping to surpass mitt romney's win here in 2012 by riling up a base frustrated with washington. >> this is a movement, this is a incredibly movement of the people of the united states who want integrity restored to the government. >> our next stop is orlando. and it is the biggest city on the i-4 corridor. it is also one that in recent years has changed dramatically. >> the message in orlando is more ethnic focus. especially latino voters and especially the puerto ricoance. >> with a large influx of

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ac 360 starts now. good evening. thanks for joining us. tonight melania trump makes a rare campaign speech, her first since the convention, calling for action against a tone, a tenor and a pattern of online behavior she says is mean and harmful and serious now have raise on the campaign trail five days from the election. it also happens to be perhaps the one thing her husband is most often accused of doing. the appeal to suburban women voters. will it work? we'll talk to kellyanne conway about it. and first jim acosta joins us from