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you will get the change you have been waiting for for your entire lifetime. good morning. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor black well. >> good to be with with you. donald trump and hillary clinton, now just three days to go. putting in all the work. putting it all on the line this final weekend of the campaign, this morning, the polls are tightening and new battle grounds are emerging. hillary clinton slipping a little bit in our latest electoral map. look at donald trump. he is above 200, a first on this electoral map. the biggest shift is in ohio. it is now moving to lean republican. if you look at new hampshire, it has moved from lean democrat to toss-up. >> they will be in the
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battleground states today. hillary clinton and her surrogates blanketing knows states. donald trump making four stops, florida, north carolina, nevada and colorado. >> let's take a look at the latest polls of polls from cnn. it is showing hillary clinton with a five-point national lead over trump, 47-42. ohio, may be leaning trump but hillary clinton hoping for some major star power last night in cleveland, she appeared alongside the power couple of music, j ze and beyonce. >> i want my daughter to grow up seeing a woman lead our country and know that her possibilities are limitless. we have to think about the future of our daughters, our sons, and vote for someone who cares for them as much as we do. that is why i'm with her.
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>> beyonce had all the fans there and all the supporters in formation but will they be forming lines at the polls? all day, we have live team coverage from our political experts, reporters standing by in the key battleground states. the latest cnn electoral map still shows an advantage for hillary clinton there. donald trump has increased his odds with some states moving in his direction. our political director is crunching the numbers for us. >> we made some pretty significant changes to our electoral map, all in donald trump's favor. this is our old map. in six battleground states. this is our new map. five remaining battleground states. here what is we changed. new hampshire went from lean democrat to a battleground state. ohio went from battleground to lean republican, really significant there. utah went from battleground to lean republican and the second
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congressional district in maine. they award their electoral votes by congressional district, went from battleground to lean republican. that gives us donald trump at 204. hillary clinton at 268, falling below that 270 mark. how does she do it now? what is her path? she still needs to defend this blue wall of wisconsin, michigan, pennsylvania, where donald trump is going to be campaigning through the weekend. she did get some late news out of michigan, a brand new poll, 42% to 38% in this "detroit free press" poll. a state the democrats would like to be farther ahead than that. it gives them a little bit of concern. that's a significant enough toenlg sof an edge to say she is holding her blue line. where does she go to find the two electoral votes? any of the battleground states. new hampshire gets her over the line to 272. how about donald trump's path? how does he get there?
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donald trump has to sweep the map. let's start add tog his 204, nevada, arizona, florida, north carolina, new hampshire. i've given him all the bat ground states, that only gets him to 269. where does he go to find that extra one? nebraska also awards its electoral votes by congressional districts. that little yellow area around omaha, that's the second congressional district. it is a truly battle grounld. if donald trump can win that congressional district in nebraska, let's give it to him. he gets to 270 electoral votes. he has a steep hill to xlim. it is a little less steep than it was yesterday. hillary clinton still has the control of the electoral map. >> florida, pivotal. here every election. a vote for donald trump and hillary clinton. >> both candidates, as we said, spending an awful lot of time there today.
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bore ris sanchez live in miami where hillary clinton will be. what are you hearing from there? >> reporter: good morning, christie and victor. the all-important state of florida, a battleground. this is a must-win for donald trump. for hillary clinton, it can bolster that firewall she is depending on to cruise to the election. as we are watching trump gain momentum, it appears the state of florida is a toss-up within the margin of error. where we are in south florida isn't exactly a toss-up. it is usually favorable to democrats. the northern part of the state favorable to conservatives. it is the central part, the i-4 corridor between daytona and tampa including orlando that is always a battleground here. it can ultimately determine the winner of this election. we do have some numbers from early voting that kind of glean where the trend lines are heading for the state of florida.
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this is from catalyst data. it looks like there is a small dip in the number of african-americans coming out to vote in this election compared to 2008. that is bad news for the clinton campaign that is depending on them like obama did. a spike in the number of latinos that are voting, a 5% spike compared to 2008. a big part of the reason of that. a large influx of puerto ricans that have moved from the island into florida specifically to the i-4 corridor, to orlando. clinton has done a tremendous job of targeting these voters. more than $27 million spent on ads in orlando alone. a lot of voting drives there as well trying to get out the puerto rican vote that favors democrats, most ouchb. to counter that, trump has also spent a lot of time riling up the base in places like sanford, the villages, very reliably
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republican, that came out for mitt romney in 2012. he is trying to rile them up. on top of that, he is coming here to miami-dade to speak to cuban americans. mike pence was in little havana yesterday. we are expecting trump to have a presence here again as we get closer to election day. christie and victor? >> boris sanchez. new this morning, donald trump delivering the weekly republican address. he shared his vision for his first 100 days in office. he asked voters to deliver change to washington. >> it's time to close the history books on the clintons and to open a bright new chapter focused on the great citizens of our country. i am asking for your vote and you're help in electing a republican majority in congress so that we can finally change this broken system. >> let's bring in eugene scott and eric brad ner.
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your reaction to donald trump and this address? >> my initial thought is that these are many of the topics that his base and his advisers wish he would have stayed on track with throughout the campaign. these are ideas that many people, outside of the republican party would like to see accomplished, change in washington. he wasn't as able to as effectively communicate that to people outside of his base. >> derek, you have a piece that talks about the six ways that trump can get to 270. every single one of them requires florida. >> absolutely. florida is a key state. north carolina is a key state. we are looking at six paths to win but none of them include losing these states where early voting numbers suggest that democrats have turned out in force. so donald trump is going to have to turn out his base, his supporters in mass on election day. they have got some ground to make up there and also in key states like nevada where democrats, which we saw the last day of early voting yesterday, are ahead of their 2012 pace at
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this point, barely but a little bit ahead. a tough path. >> we heard yesterday president obama and several others saying if hillary clinton wins north carolina, it is done. it is hillary clinton's. is that true? >> yes, yes. it is feasible that trump could find some other pathway. he could win pennsylvania, which would be a surprise. we have seen poll after poll after poll show that clinton has a narrowing lead there, a pretty steady. it is not evaporating. trump many has not closed a gap there. there are long shot states like michigan, wisconsin. colorado seems to have tightened recently. there is no easy path, no logical path even that doesn't go through north carolina, which is why president obama has been playing up the importance of african-american turnout. >> it is down. >> it is down. >> part of that, of course, is because north carolina changed its early voting laws.
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there are fewer polling places in early voting in some key counties. but part of it is that this is a trend we are seeing in other states too. florida, georgia. so we know it is not just about law changes. it is about enthusiasm and excitement. >> early voting is wrapping up there in north carolina. we are discussing the closing arguments, the closing message from these candidates. we know that hillary clinton at least rhetorically adopted the first ladies mantra of when they go low, we go high. she has been very critical of donald trump. she has been on the attack. >> yes, part of that is because she has been on the defense following the announcement from the fbi they were going to look into more e-mails. it has brought negative attention on her campaign. we saw the candidate that we are talking about the most unfortunately is usually for a negative reason. she dominated these headlines in the last perhaps seven days. i think she wants to make clear to this obama demographic that
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supported him that she is the best one to continue his legacy. she thinks the best way to do that is by attacking him. >> when we talk about closing arguments, let's talk about donald trump. take a look at this ad actually that we have that's running right now. donald tru donald trump seems to be focusing on the fact that hillary clinton will be a president under investigation. do we have that sound in let's take a look at some of it here real quickly. >> i, hillary rodham clinton do solemnly swear that i will support. >> not so fast. the fbi director said clinton's claims on classified material were not true. clinton has faced numerous criminal investigations. 60% of americans think she is not honest. >> how effective is that to people who have not yet decided
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who they are voting for? >> it is so negative. candidates have such trouble with their own popularity. whoever the election is about is losing. when it is about did tonald tru did the, he is losing. when it is about her, she is losing. >> hillary clinton has more money. she is spending more money on the air in these final days and she also has a much bigger crew of surrogates. >> the ground game? >> huge ground game. she has been investing in it since early 2015 where as trump has been relying on the rnc hasn't really built his own ground game. she has many more surrogates. >> donald trump is also dumping $4 million in a two-minute ad that is going to the battleground states in some pretty heavily watched programs in the next several days. >> early voting, we've been talking about it today. it is up.
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car d c cardonas and frank buckley. welcome to both of you. >> thank you. good morning. welcome to washington. >> good to see you in person. let's talk about this shifting map. for the first time in our map, hillary clinton is below 270. donald trump above 200. a few more paths potentially for him to 270. are you concerned? >> sure. democrats should always be concerned. hillary clinton's campaign should wake up every day believing she is ten points behind. that's how you win. complacency is how we lose. i think where we are is she still has a lead. let's remember that going into the same weekend in 2012, barack obama and mitt romney were tied. he still pulled it out with a comfortable margin. she is four points ahead in the national polls, ahead in most of the battleground states. the hillary clinton campaign is leaving nothing on the table there. they are taking absolutely nothing for granted. her coalition will look different, a little different. it is going to be the hillary
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clinton coalitin, not the obama coalition. a spike in latino voters. african-american vote. >> is soft on enthusiasm. >> a little softer but let's be real. it is a little bit tough to follow the first african-american president. let's get real. the hillary clinton campaign is still feeling confident about that. in north carolina, the reason it has been down is because some of the voting sites, there haven't been as many. there has been voter suppression out there. once the voting sites started going back online, a lot of voters out there. they feel confident they will get to a good number. >> an important ruling yesterday. >> absolutely. >> when we look at nevada, we have some new numbers this morning about what is happening in early voting there, particularly in clark county. they are almost at 55,000 people who have voted in early voting. that broke the record that was 48,000 before. frank, what does that tell you
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about people who are going to the polls early? are they doing so because when they get out there, they want to get their vote in or is their concern about voter suppression, about something happening at the polls that may be untoward on election day itself? >> i didn't see any evidence of voter suppression. i voted yesterday in alexandria, huge crowds. eh at this point, it is so unclear. nobody can make any predictions. the democratic ground game is fabulous. we know this. we don't know about the kind of shy brexit voter. there is a lot of donald trump support. i don't know where these guys are but they sure terped ourned here for the primaries. i am content to wait and see. >> i don't think we have a choice. >> as frank brought up here, these donald trump voters, these sleeper voters that we were talking about, the closet voters, to what degree does that
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factor in to the ground game for the democrats? is there an expectation on how many of these voters there might be? >> it is interesting, that theme. nacon in "the new york times" had a great piece about how we have all expected this silent trump voter. it hasn't really showed up pollingwise or registrationwise. there hasn't been a spike in white voter registration this year from 2012, which is so interesting. then, in the places where it has gone up, it has been millennials, which frankly vote for for hillary and the nonwhite vote. i have a theory that there is a hidden hillary voters. latinos and millennials don't show up in the polls because
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they are not likely. there is a hidden hillary voter that was republican. there ways a william and mary survey of early voters in florida. 28% of republican voters had voted for hillary clinton. >> maria, stay with us. we are going to take a quick break and come back and pick up on these sleeper voters, closet voters, potentially and what maria said there about a closet hillary voter. we'll pick that up for you, frank. stay with us. we'll be right back. ack friday that is insane. i would never do that. at chevy, you can avoid the chaos and get great deals on the most awarded lineup. i like that. bam! it's awesome! you don't have to camp out at the chevy dealer two days in advance. i love it. (laughs) wow. and you don't have to wait until black friday. find your tag and get 20% cash back, or, get 0% financing for 72 months on select remaining 2016 chevy vehicles in stock. find new roads at your local chevy dealer.
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hillary clinton will be president. >> i need you to vote. don't choose fear. choose hope. >> maria, back with us. we were just talking about closet voters who may not want to admit to who they are voting for and they go into that poll and at the end of the day, they go into that ballot box and they go into that little area there and it is just them and their conscience. >> frank. >> we were talking about a hidden hillary voter. i believe they are there. i think they are the people that changed the polling numbers over the last couple of weeks. a lot of people have looked at things and said, wait a minute, do we want to play the last years of the 1990s and go through all the problems we had with an impeachment. god knows, that's not going to happen. if we have a hillary presidency, there is a pretty good chance we are going to be tied up in a lot of scandals for the first couple
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of years. i think a lot of people are looking at that and saying, now, maybe we don't want that. i would discount some of the advanced polling, even though i did it, because that's testimony how great the ground game is for the dems. the republicans don't do so well, to put it mildly. in the real election, it is tuesday. gosh, i wouldn't put money down one way or the other. you probably would, but i wouldn't. >> i agree with you. he is right in na this whole fbi stink bomb that we had a week ago, i think, probably has dampened some of the enthusiasm of republican leaning voters that were thinking of voting for hillary. when voters go into that voting booth, they are going to take a look at and take stock of the last year and a half. if you are leaning towards hillary, you are doing that because you know that the office of the presidency is the most powerful office in the world.
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you want somebody in there that has the temperament to be commander and xhoo commander-in-chief, who is not going to be tweeting out at 3:00 in the morning and have the nuclear codes if kim young un says something you don't like. that is one of the most important measures where people believe it is hillary clinton by vast measures that has the temperament, the experience, the steadyness to be commander in chief and leaders of the free word. >> republicans would say the judgment that is required to be in the oval office, as we've heard donald trump making his final message. i want to go to the point about the african-american votes. you have jay-z and beyonce, the president and first lady, political stars but in their own right. she is still having difficulty hardening up those numbers.
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she still has the percentage that's required but the enthusiasm is falling off. how does she in the closing days before election day, because early voting is wrapping up in those states. how does she get those voters out to the polls? can she do it or have you re-signed it won't be in 2012? >> i think she can. like i said before, i don't think we should expect for it to be he can actually the same level, because, again, first african-american president, i think that there is some expectation there will be a tiny bit of dropoff. they are working as if they want to get the same number or more as president obama, which is why you see such an effort to bring out everybody. they are not taking anything for granted which i think is really smart. the other thing we need to take into consideration is that this is the weekend where the african-american faith community will put all of their effort
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into taking their people to the polls. souls to the polls. that is something that we can't discount. the president, michelle obama, president clinton and hillary will end up in a huge rally on monday night. michelle obama, the closer. president obama has been on fire the last couple of days. >> he has been on fire. >> he has really been fired up. he has a very compelling argument for african-americans. you trusted me. you gave me your vote. we have to continue this legacy. the fact that he is at 57% approval rating is a huge boom for hillary. >> can i make a point? there is another hidden voter, the hidden voter that cares about issues. they see a country that's not done terribly well. that certainly includes african-americans. for me, this is a crucial polling number. for the first time in history, americans report they don't think their kids will have it as well off as they did. that is absolutely huge.
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when you look at it more closely, what you are looking at is a series of failed policies. what trump is arguing is, i can change all that. to take but one issue which he harps on, immigration, we're importing imability. wonderful people are coming over. they are not doing as well as native americans. trend continues over to their children and to their grandchildren. we are immorting imability. wonderful stuff if you are on top and want cheap maids and gardeners. the same thing with respect to trade. he is making a play for a community that people have been ignored all this time. for me, i see this as a little bit of the reagan coalition, maybe going back even further. his politics would more closely resemble a jfk or even an eisenhower. >> trump's immigration policy is
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one of the reasons why hispanics are coming out. we talk about immigration as often as he can. >> maria cardona, frank buckley, thank you both. >> the latest numbers on the economy, of course, they could be perhaps a boost that hillary clinton needs just days before the election. donald trump saying, however, it isn't all what it seems, blasting the jobs report as phoney. how these key numbers could shift the election. that's next. ♪ hey, is this our turn? honey...our turn? yeah, we go left right here. (woman vo) great adventures are still out there. we'll find them in our subaru outback. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru.
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good morning from washington, d.c. we are always grateful to have your company. thank you for getting up so early with us. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> donald trump, hillary clinton, crisscrossing the battleground states making those last stitch appeals to voters trying to pick up every last undecided vote if there are any still out there. trump is in florida, north carolina, nevada and colorado today. xlin ton clinton in florida and pennsylvania. >> this morning, a brand new cnn poll of polls showing hillary clinton at 47%. donald trump as 42%. take a look at cnn's latest electoral map showing there is a shift. hillary clinton's electoral vote, total, has dropped below that magic number of 270. she now sits at 268. donald trump above 200 for the first time at 204. >> clinton is hoping the last jobs report before the election
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gives her a boost when voters go to cast their balance lot on tuesday. here is what the health of the economy looks like right now. 161,000 jobs added in october. slightly below the wall street estimates. unemployment rate ticked down a 10th of a percent to 4.9%. the clinton campaign is raising these numbers while trump is calling the jobs report a phoney, a disaster. of course, we have partisan reaction with the co-chair of women vote trump, maria cardona. that's coming up in a moment. what are the facts when it comes to the economy? >> for that, we turn to christi christina aleshi who has been looking at this. >> the numbers on the jobs report are not a disaster. they are being politicized and spun by both sides of the aisle here. americans have a lot to be anxious about, child care is
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expensive. it costs $245,000 to raise a child to 18. student debt is rising. it is currently at $1.4 trillion. social security will face a short fall in about 17 years. child care, look at this chart, adjusted for inflation. it was $45,000 higher in 2013 than in 1980 to raise a child. both candidates have addressed this issue. trump calls for six weeks of paid leave for mothers. clinton wants 12 but the similarities end there. clinton's plan focuses on early childhood education, preschool for 4-year-olds. trump, he talks about tax breaks an savings accounts to offset childcare costs but those may not benefit many poor and middle income families. on college tuition, over the last ten years, the cost of a degree has continued to rise. this has got millennials really
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worried. clinton would give students from families making less than $125 noun a year free tuition if they go to a public university. trump's plan, penalize colleges and universities that don't give students enough financial aid. both of these plans have real problems. clintons would cost tax payers about $50 billion a year. trump's proposal would only work for student s with very large endowments. most colleges don't have that kind of money to fall back on. finally, 17 years is what we have left for social security. at that point, it will only be able to pay out 80% of its benefits. neither candidate has a real solution. clinton's answer, tax the rich. trump says, we can grow our way out of this problem. many economists disagree. both are oversimplifying this fix and neither has talked about cutting benefits or raising the retirement age. they don't want to scare older
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voters. they don't want to touch that hot button issue. >> you broke it down. you broke it down. we are going to talk. she is going to stick with us here. i want to talk about overall, this being the final jobs report we will see before the election, who does it benefit most? we'll talk about that on the other side of the break. she is going to stick around, because we are talking about this more in-depth as well as maria and amy join us. >> we need energy. some say, you have to rely on you alternatives, wind, solar, oil, national gas, traditional energy. try this. all of the above. that's real energy security. i'm maggie and i'm an energy voter.
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there. tla shou that should be coming up soon. it will get warmer. don't worry, ladies, we're all here. donald trump supporter, amy cramer and clinton supporter, maria cardona with us right now. christina alesi stayed with us. as we are talking about the numbers, from the numbers perspective, let's talk about how the report that came in and who it benefits fully. you broke it down last block for us. in general, overall, who does this benefit? >> well, look, i think each side is going to pick and choose what they want from this report. at the end of the day, donald trump's comments about it being a disaster are clearly a little bit overblown, right? it was a solid jobs report. an economist basically on both sides of the aisle agree with that assessment. they say, this is 161,000, not gang busters but not so bad.
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and, positive point of comparison point here, wage growth, which we haven't seen really so strong since the recession at 2.8%. that was pretty good. look, the jobs report isn't without problems. there is still a high number of discouraged workers, long term unemployed. there are real systemic problems that we have to fix in the economy. >> let's listen to what donald trump said yesterday in new hampshire about the economy and those numbers. >> these numbers are an absolute disaster. nobody believes the numbers anyway. the numbers they put out are phoney. >> so, amy, let me come to you. so he says the numbers are phoney. presidents for decades have relied on the bureau of labor statistic numbers. he calms thels these phoney. >> they do manipulate the numbers. >> who is the they?
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>> i don't know who is doing the numbers. >> what he is talking about is that there were more part-time jobs than full-time jobs. there were less full-time jobs than expected. the number of people that are no longer looking for jobs is the second highest that it has ever been in our nation's history. >> how do you know that? >> because i have been reading and doing research on it. >> from the bureau of labor statistics. that's the point. he calls these numbers phoney. everything you are saying, you are refusing his point that these are phone new numbers. you are using these to do it. >> you can't say it is a great jobs report. i am glad that the number of people unemployed has gone down. at the end of the day, if you want a full-time job and you can't get one, you are only working part time, that's a problem. just because this jobs report looks good on the surface, doesn't mean that the american people are not hurting across the country. they are not feeling it. i can tell you that they are.
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we hear it all the time. >> let's listen to hillary clinton quickly. i want to get your take on it. >> we have some good news this morning. our economy created 161,000 jobs last month. that is 73 straight months of job growth. i believe that our economy is poised to really take off and thrive. >> so, maria, to amy's point, there are a lot of people that may be watching that. i am unemployed. i have been unemployed. i'm really struggling. this might make them nervous. >> if you continue to listen to what she was saying and what she has said on the trail is that we need to do more. we need to actually build on this progress, because it has been progress. i think when donald trump uses words like these numbers are rigged, that's what he loves to
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talk about. amy made a good argument. if donald trump paid that argument, it would make it a little bit more credible. the way he talk s about these numbers, that they are not true, fixed, or rigged, that speaks to his own base, his own base who thrives on conspiracy theories, thinks that everything here in washington is rigged. it doesn't do anything to really add number toss his column, which is what he really needs to do in the next three days. this jobs report actually let's hillary clinton talk about the incredible progress we have made under president obama and yet continue to talk about what she would continue to do to make sure that everybody who wants a job gets it. in terms of call teeiing it a h these numbers aren't rigged. there are two separate set of numbers. he points to one set that includes discouraged workers. that is a statistic that the bureau of labor statistics actually tracks. it is not a hoax.
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it is just a different metric that is not used as the top line. >> it is disingenuous to sit up here and pretend that everything is grand. >> nobody is saying that. >> we have to take a break. we will continue the conversation about the economy. as we get closer to tuesday, many of these things, as they try to make these final arguments are coming back to my kitchen table, my job, my personal economy. >> this is one of the number one issues that voters are looking at is the economy and what does it mean to them. thank you ladies so much. a fox news anchor walking back his claims about a possible indictment coming in the clinton foundation investigation coming and saying he made a mistake and apologized. is the damage already done, though. from the second we're born. because, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness. and believing a single life can be made better by
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fox news anchor, bret baier, said it was a mistake to report that an indictment is likely. he apologized by several news outlets, found that his claims just weren't true. after he reported it, the story spread across the internet and social media. cnn senior media correspondent, ryan stealth zer with us now. how much damage is perceived? >> many people believe the original report. it all started on wednesday, when he had a series of reports about the clinton foundation. there are some that have been inquire noog t inquiring into the foundation. it has not reached the highest
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levels. nothing is imminent or impending. here is what he said, apologizing yesterday for what happened. >> that just was inartful. it was a mistake. for that, i'm sorry. i should have said, they will continue to build their case. indictment obviously is a very loaded word, john, specially in this atmosphere and no one knows if there would or would not be an indictment no matter how strong investigators feel their evidence is. >> so he is saying some fbi agents in local field offices will continue to look into the foundation. that does seem to be true by our own reporting of evan perez and pamela brown. the bottom line, this is the worst game in telephone. a claim gets made. then, it spirals out of control. so if you look on conservative blogs, you might come away believing that clinton is in imminent legal jeopardy and she is going to get locked up. trump has cited this idea of an
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indictment. when you see fox news walk it back and retract it, goes to show how overheated some of the news coverage is right now. there air lot of stories that can trick and mislead you. the advice to the audience is double, triple check. be stepky takeptical of what yo seeing. >> after that apology, donald trump is talking about an indictment even after bret baier apologized. >> there is the game of telephone right there. the message has been twisted. >> and still on the edge. coming up at the top of the hour, just three days left. we keep the countdown on your screen for your there. election on everyone's mind, not only here in the u.s. but overseas as well. next, russia's love affair with one of the candidates. who says i shouldn't have a soda everyday?
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