tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN November 10, 2016 9:00pm-10:01pm PST
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breaking news tonight. live pictures from los angeles, an anti-trump protests in cities for the second night. donald trump slamming protesters in a tweet saying they're being unfair to him. we'll discuss all of this. president elect visits washington preparing to take control of the u.s. government. meeting president obama in the oval office today. >> i believe that it is important for all of us, regardless of party and political preferences to now come together, work together, to deal with the many challenges that we face. >> and afterward donald trump on capitol hill meeting with
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republican leaders. let's begin with the anti-trump protesters voicing their anger at donald trump's election. cnn's dan simon is in oakland. what are you seeing? >> reporter: hey don. the temperature has definitely risen on the streets of oakland. yes this is a donald trump protest but clearly there are a group of people who are intent on taunting the police. we've seen police come out here in full riot grier aear and see be anarchist element in the crowd. band thats on faces and last night some vandalism and there's concern could see that tonight. earlier entirely peaceful, a group of people essentially up on a podium talking about donald trump, people from the black lives matter movement, and now we have people taking to the streets, marching, holding
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signs, yelling anti-donald trump slogans and right now the police are hoping things will calm down. essentially set up a barricade to this group of protesters can't get onto the freeway and block traffic. right now these people are just marching through the streets yelling at police, yelling things about the media, about donald trump, so we're going to keep an eye on the situation and hopefully things don't spiral out of control. >> we'll keep on eye and get back to you if we need to. president-elect meeting with president obama at white house and traveling to capitol hill. phil mattingly has the story. >> reporter: there are two of the most powerful people in washington with strong ideas about what they're particular agendas should be going forward. one problem, those don't necessarily match up. big question after seven months of turmoil, what happens next?
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a relationship defined by tepid acceptance at best. >> nothing is a blank check. you never give anyone for any reason a blank check on anything. >> reporter: and downright antagonism at worst. >> maybe he doesn't know how to win. >> reporter: for months center stage with clashing policies. now reliant on one another for suck said. >> donald trump had one of the most impressive victories we've ever seen and we're going to turn it into progress for the american people. >> very good meeting. good detailed meeting and we're going to lower taxes as you know. make health care more affordable and better. >> reporter: for trump, ryan represents a man to bridge the gap to skeptical core of the establishment gop. explicitly stated goal in
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speech. >> now it's time for america to bind the wounds of division, we have to get together. to all republicans and democrats and independents across this nation, i say it is time for us to come together as one united people. >> reporter: for ryan, a president that can finally sign policy priorities that have been collected dust despite nearly 7 years in the house majority. >> this house and senate majority has proven able to pass legislation on the put on the president's desk. problem is president obama vetoed it and now president trump is asking us to do this. >> reporter: advisers say both men had positive things to say about one another but the two have more than just a strained relationship standing in their way. ryan has faced criticism from conservative house republicans for not fully supporting trump as nominee and splits with trump
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on crucial issues like entitlement reform, trade and hardline immigration stance. but for now each man is looking to focus on common ground rather than differences. >> how do we make sure when hand comes off the bible and he's sworn in, hitting the ground running. we're excited about working with him to make sure that's the case. >> reporter: bottom line is there are a lot of hurt feelings and scars and cuts to be cleaned up over the next couple of weeks, months and maybe years but a cold political calculation made by republican officials. after years of passing bills with no chance of going anywhere, they have a republican in the oval office so means very real opportunity to get policy that they want signed into law. because of that fact right now they're more than willing to give donald trump a chance. when you talk to some republican officials they're downright excited about what his
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presidency may bring. big question now is does he follow through and be the president they want him to be? >> thank you very much. bring in the natalie, anderson brower, author of "first women, grace and power of america's modern first ladies" and swerlic, editor at "washington post." you first david. meeting of the donald trump and ryan, like the odd couple. couldn't be more different but need each other. >> they do. and president obama. >> excuse me. you said paul ryan. with ryan he has agenda to push forward. as leader of republicans in the house and arguably most important republican in congress be frustrated under president obama not getting agenda through. donald trump now is vehicle to get bills passed. i would say he should be careful
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what he wishes for. you have a situation where republicans have been able to take a lot of symbolic votes over the last several years knowing that bills would be vetoed by president obama. now if they get things through in, like a repeal of obamacare, big question is what are they going to replace it with and how are they going to respond if it doesn't do what that he promised. if those things don't happen. now don't have president to veto the legislation they've been pushing and talking about over many years and months. >> but relationship has been contentious and trump has a long memory and reputation for vengeance as businessman and private citizen at least. do you think ryan has a target on his back? >> i'm watching trump closely to see how he approaches ryan. i think speaker ryan may have target on his back from members of his own caucus, house freedom
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caucus sees him as establishment figure. and it's not clear to me they've just decided to fall in line behind him as speaker. they may because way he got to be speaker, no one else wanted the job. in terms of working with president-elect trurngs i think it's there, trump right now is surveying the landscape. he's doing with speaker ryan just what he's doing with president obama. saying all the right things, making the right gestures, when the rubber hits the road and there are details to be hashed out in terms of policy, i do see them clashing on things like trade, tpp, the details of whose health care plan winds up coming behind a potential repeal of obamacare. republicans will work together in the short-term, jury is out if they work together in
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long-term. >> did it make you uncomfortable when i said does he have a target on his back or as citizen have a history of vengeance. >> history points that out but paul ryan is perfect for donald trump because he's compromised and vulnerable. donald trump -- >> i heard who is that? a sound bite. >> think about how much paul ryan owes donald trump right now. that's a great position for donald trump. i don't think he wants to move -- would be stupid to move him out of the way. right now paul ryan owes donald trump which wasn't the case before. seems to me would be very strange if he had a target on his back that was from donald trump. i think trump's position vis-a-vis the republicans is extraordinarily strong. >> all right everyone. panel. timothy. certain things you don't say in polite society but we're not so
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polite. how much of this today is pageantry? i feel like i'm watching a pageant going on. when you go to the white house this is how you act. and whatever. paul ryan saying incredible win. how much of this is pageantry? do you believe all the things coming out of people's mouths today? >> i don't. looks incredibly hypocritical to lot of americans who watched the campaign unfold and now it's almost as though never happened and all of that was to win votes but we see this throughout history. not to this extent but when the reagans won for instance, rosalind carter was very unhappy about their victory and jimmy carter had worked very hard to free the iran hostages and reagan came in and hostages released when he was sworn in. it was a frosty ride to capitol hill between nancy reagan and
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rosalind carter and i can imagine between michelle obama and melania trump. to be a fly on the wall. it's about the peaceful transition of power and melania trump never been married to elected official before so probably michelle obama feels like owes her an explanation about how this works. it was hard for michelle obama when she moved into the white house too. i think there s a sense of camaraderie among the first ladies. they're the only ones who know what it's like to be in the position. differences obviously. >> there's always scrutiny on the people in the oval but so much on michelle obama. she wore sleeveless dresses or shirts and got criticism for it. the things that happen now, it's just really unbelievable. there is so much raw emotion in
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the country after this really bruising election. do these niceties and formalities really make a difference? >> i think they calm some people but the people who voted for hillary clinton and she won the popular vote so obviously millions of americans, there's nothing you can really say to them at this point. to really make them think this is the right decision. but i think the pageantry is important. this is an amazing country and this is what we do. i think that shows for donald trump some maturity there for him to meet with president obama and for president obama miraculous amount of maturity and this is early time to meet the day after. i was surprised at timing. >> dana bash confirmed considering steve bannon for chief of staff. what's the message there? >> i don't think it's good. say one quick thing about pageantry. they have to do this. i take your point that a lot of
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this is for show and lot of americans may look at this and say after the hard-fought campaign with a lot of nasty charges back and forth that it's just this thin coverup for two sides who don't like each other but in our system you have the head of state and government embodied in one person. not a queen elizabeth out there to handle the niceties. president has to do all of that. what we saw today even if brief and faking it has to be done for that peaceful transfer of power. >> hold on for the second part. >> yes. and reiterate the fact this is -- what is novel about this is it's happening so soon. it was six days before president-elect obama met with george bush. in past it was even longer than that. so the fact that -- >> why do you think it's happening so quickly? >> well i think president obama
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is hitting the ball out of the park. i think he understands the raw emotions, probably feels many of them himself and wants to basically say to the american people, remember we take an oath of allegiance to -- americans all take to the flag but in government, take it to the constitution not the president. reminding everyone that the constitution is most important thing here. that's why doing it fast. wants to make it clear. this is happening. you may be shocked, i'm shocked i'm sure he feels that way. decision to do it fast, i think learn later in memoir that it's important. pageantry is very important because it sends a signal. signal isn't to say shouldn't be protesting. as long as not causing violence, it's your first amendment right and it's healthy. >> and as you said, your words were monumental maturity, i
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thought that was great way of putting it. i think i got the answer to the question about -- you said didn't think it was good idea. unfortunately i have to go. thank you all. appreciate it. up next with the anti-trump protests happening for a second night a row, many americans feel anxiety and fear about donald trump's upcoming presidency. 110. so no matter where you go, you are here. join or link accounts today. the search for relief often leads... here... here... or here. today, there's a new option. introducing drug-free aleve direct therapy.
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oregon, police are now classifying the protests in that city as a riot. saying items thrown at police officers and cars being damaged. we'll keep you updated. bring in now dean oeb dal la show and columnist for the daily beast and medicine at college. thank you for joining me. >> it's a difficult time. going to be honest. i have anxiety levels before election night. trouble sleeping. wasn't alone. listeners calling in. >> what are they saying? >> before the election, pap pabl anxiety and fear. now not kidding. adults crying in tears about
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children. muslim children. white people concerned about your community, muslims, african-americans and latinos with empathy and passion. it's been moving on that level and try to give them a pep talk. we'll get through it, i believe we will. >> i here all the trump folks saying it's anecdotal, no evidence. >> very real. never gotten more e-mails from listeners, sharing things. i'm concerned. tons of text messaged from well meaning white progressive friends. going to be with you, worried about latinos and african-americans. >> how is that different than ronald reagan or george bush going from liberal to conservative. >> it's completely different. donald trump is not a normal candidate. if mitt romney had beaten obama i would have been disappointed but not all worried for by
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community or african-americans or muslims or women or lgbt. this is a man trafficked in bigotry and racism. george w. bush didn't, romney didn't. >> those candidates would have been disqualified about that. if president obama talked about groping women would have been a real problem. they're seeing what was said by donald trump before he became president and even though he may be softening the tone now they're still remembering. these are deep psychic wounds that people have. >> what are you seeing and hearing? people telling you? >> people with a lot of fear and disgust because they don't understand what the country is about, how this could happen and there's something else really strange going on we sense too. there's a real excitement in that people don't know what's going to happen from one day to the next, feel really alive
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because it is a combination of excitement and fear and it has the adrenaline going. what's going to happen next? >> go on. you're right on that. >> they want to be scared. makes them feel more alive because there's been such a m l mallase in this country but other part is people are not trusting one another or this country because feel we're showing an ugly side of ourselves because of the way this election -- >> stop. get back to this. when you said they feel very much alive because they don't know, can that quickly shift into optimism about a trump presidency if he does some good things or right things in the beginning? >> i think people want to be surprised in that way, they want it to be a fairy tael because
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americans believe in fairy tales. this big bad guy all of a sudden with a heart of gold. even president obama says hey listen, if you make it, we make it. that's what people want to see. but at the same time -- >> they need to be reassured. go on. let him finish. making another point about the ugly campaign that it has been. >> so i think a lot of people feel that they're not going to forget the things that were said by donald trump. he may pull back on the muslim ban and pull back on the issues having to do with roe v. wade perhaps. he wants to replace obamacare with something else instead of just tearing it down and not putting anything there but people remember and those scars are very deep because such strong statements were made by donald trump. >> yeah. made statements about muslims
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and -- we know what's going on. >> i think if he really wants to reach out -- said nice words in speech on wed, want to be president of all the people. i think has to come to the communities he's demonized and apologize to muslims, disabled and women and then appoint people from your communities, leaders who are respected. not people who supported him because they were not leaders to the communities. to the administration or cabinet, high ranking. give me confidence he's changing. has to be actions not words. his words go from one tweet to the next. >> why would he apologize? he never -- he's the leader of the free world. >> he's our president. i respect the office. he will never be our president the way -- these communities he's demonized unless he does more than words. be president of everything and do nothing more? not going to work. he'll have four years of us more animated, more alive. he beat us, we're not defeated.
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left is not defeated. never going to surrender, going to fight him every step for racist stuff or sexist stuff. not going to end. >> tweet from david duke who tweeted after trump won, this is one of the most exciting nights of my life. make no mistake our people have had a huge impact in electing donald trump. so is it donald trump or the people he has -- whether he wants to admit it or campaign -- they're smart people they know. or the people he energized that fear. >> frightens people. yesterday a high school outside of detroit, white kids chanting at latino kids build a wall. muslim in california attacked and another at california state
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by a person invoking trump. is he a trump supporter? i don't know. scares us. called elizabeth warren a racist and fraud but never said that to david duke. they hear the same thing we do and that's why. >> going back to earlier point i believe a lot of what has happened he's opened up pandora's box. had the key and knew what he needed to do in order to get those voices and votes. i agree with you dean. when do that, you have the responsibility to now sift through that box and help people begin to heal. take those voices of rage and anger from the disenfranchised, from communities who feel they've been left behind and now help them come to the table in productive way instead of stepping back and leaving a mess out there. saying everyone for themselves, you guys work it out. now you have to help heal the
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divide that you helped open up. >> and it appears at least that he -- you know may be willing to do that. let's leave this on a positive note and say that people who supported donald trump because they said their voices were unheard and they didn't have an agent who -- to help them. maybe they should listen to the people out there protesting and in fear and feel their voices aren't heard as well because they have more in common than they do -- >> i agree with you. this is a great opportunity for president-elect donald trump to step in and say let's bring all of the people together and build something positive moving forward. he could do that. >> got to be actions though. coming up donald trump supporters demanding he make good on his campaign promises. the lowest prices on our hotels are always at hilton.com. so pay less and get more only at hilton.com.
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of the state that turned out heavily for donald trump. which is interesting because historically it's very democrat. but not this go-around. wanted to ask voters what is it they want donald trump to take on first. >> illegal moochers from mexico that come in. >> reporter: looking to organize a to do list might give a listen to the callers of 570 in youngstown. used to be prime democrat turf but manufacturing jobs disappeared and businesses closed, many here like factories turned a rusty red. crossing over to trump. >> like to see him handle the health care problem. >> social security. haven't gotten a raise in seven years. >> reporter: most want focus on
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immigration. >> send mexico estimated bill for the wall. >> reporter: get rid of obamacare, bring back jobs and if possible? >> rip up iran deal. >> indict hillary clinton. >> reporter: talked to backers. >> i expected this. confident in the election. >> reporter: been a democrat all his life until now. what do you want donald trump to do first? >> first is pick a great cabinet. got a big job there. >> reporter: dave says the same thing, surround himself with the right people. >> want to see the cabinet. i think he will be a ceo and sit there and let the cabinet do all the work. that's what i think. then see who they're going to pick for the supreme court. >> reporter: filling the supreme court is also near the top of many wish lists but isn't long until back to the wall.
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>> one of the first priorities is secure the borders. >> reporter: build a wall? >> but to me that's rhetorical. doesn't mean brick and motorer. >> reporter: you hear that a lot. the wall he's spoken so much about is not really a wall at all to many trump voters. the wall, build it? don't? real wall, not a real wall? >> i don't know if physical wall is the thing to do. probably other ways that he can curb some of it coming in. >> reporter: which brings us back to another favorite things. obamacare. >> get rid of it and start all over. come up with something, take care of people who can't take care of themselves. everybody knows that. >> reporter: but can't talk to trump voters without talking about something else, all those protesters. >> you haven't even given the
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guy a chance yet. >> reporter: most don't believe they're spontaneous anger but organized. >> this is the government they want. chaos and anarchy and going to give it to us. this is just the beginning. >> reporter: and about the protests many trump voters felt that they were disrespectful. disrespectful of the office of president and also very disrespectful of the outcome of the vote. after all they say in 2008 when barack obama won the presidency, did republicans take to the street? don. >> martin savidge. thank you. coming up. should donald trump address the protests of his presidency? we'll talk about that next. e, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine.
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bring in contributor to the atlantic. a former adviser for romney. a director of the congressional black caucus and host of america trends with dr. geena. donald trump is tweeting with the protests tonight. just had open and successful presidential election. now professional protesters incited by the media are protesting. very unfair. there are a number of things he could have said about the protests. is this the way to go do you think? >> yeah, again i think this is reverting back to some of the campaign behavior that people found problematic. obviously on the one hand you've got donald trump meeting with president obama, acting and appearing quite presidential. on the other hand you have these twitter things that happen. so i think at some point they're going to -- he's going to have to make a decision about how to respond to these things. obviously trying to call these
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people out but perhaps the better response is say, i understand people are upset but repeat the line from the speech, i intend to be president for all americans. i think would be helpful. >> do you think should address the protest? what should he say? >> first thing i think he should do is understand the fact this is still a divided electorate. 60 million people voted for him and 60 million, slightly more now for hillary clinton. they don't think he represents them. they're chanting in particular he's not our president. but to go on twitter a platform that many of them are on to say unfair and he won fair and square. folks have no concept for the electoral college and just see
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numerically hillary clinton won the election and hard to understand how he's their president when he spewed hatred and vitriol and by the time night falls sounds just like donald trump they grew to despise in the campaign. >> what do you think he should do? do you think it's feasible. people saying maybe apologize. should he? >> when has -- would have to be a different person. can anyone think from everything we know about donald trump of one really generous hearted magnanimous thing this man did entire campaign or frankly entire life? it's not who he is. dangerous thing is that he doesn't recognize now as president, what he does has particular ramifications. when you're president-elect and tweet out that protesters are professional which is mostly not true, you're now in charge of the law enforcement, sending a
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message to police forces. it's not just being a candidate. he has the power of the state behind him, when he starts to demonize people that's going to have serious real world consequences. >> geena? want to respond? >> sure. i have to tell you that during this campaign process, i've learned a lot about the things that mr. trump has done behind the scenes very compassionate. heard stories of someone helped him alongside the road once and he bought their children's education. i made personal friends with miss wisconsin usa, her name is melissa young -- >> perhaps not specific enough in the questioning. do you think this is the way to respond. i don't mean to be disrespectful and you've said done good things but specifically to the way he responded to the protesters. >> i think we are in the twitter generation and i think that
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voters know that mr. trump is somebody who is not going to be controlled by the way things have been done traditionally by the gop or by the democrat establishment. so mr. trump is his own man. that's who the voters elected and i think that's what we're going to get. i also think his desire is to communicate with a generation, and that's how they communicate. if he wanted to communicate with president obama, had to get 100,000 signatures for a statement on an issue. >> that's not fair. >> mr. trump plays on twitter. go out there and talk to the american people have have dialogue. >> but you're saying that the mr. trump you're talking about is president-elect trump and perhaps it's different. ask you this as well, speaking with protests and twitter. this is twitter in the past. after the mitt romney loss, and donald trump says our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble like never before.
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this election is a total sham and travesty, we're not a democracy, more votes equals a loss. revolution. saying should be a revolution. more votes equals a loss. let's fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting unjustice, the world is laughing at us. we can't let this happen. we should march on washington and stop this travesty, nation is totally divided. phony electoral college made a laughing stock of your nation. loser won, lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. these are donald trump's own tweets that you say he plays around on twitter talking about mitt romney winning the popular vote. >> yeah there are a couple of things that are frustrating in the campaign. when you're on the receiving end of a loss, i completely understand and feel compassion
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because been on the receiving end of a loss that frustrated me for the same reasons. but the rationale, not saying it's right or wrong, it's hard to change. rationale is not electoral but elect roller process that the big cities where the financial capitals are, big banks and wall street, don't get to control the rest of us in lower populated areas. that's the purpose our founders had in mind. going to have to think long and hard to have the conversation and it's okay but i think it's important for both sides to listen and heal rather than fully on the attack at all times. >> again he didn't win the popular vote. that's what he thought at that point. >> i was a little lost in what you were saying but just offer some clarity to the electoral college. it provided some security to
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slave states. it is an outdated system that's frankly offensive to some of us. that.make sure we're clear on - one thing would love to ask you is if you think donald trump will rebuke, as he used, third chance i think he got, rebuke david duke, rebuke and disavow or condemn the north carolina kkk parade planned for december third. wondering if at least do that. doesn't sound like any hope of him addressing the concerns of the protesters, will he at least do that? good question. we'll answer after the break. be right back. ♪ ♪
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them power. for so many years we have been talking in terms of race and divisiveness. i think it is time to talk about unity and focus on what we agree on. we all want jobs, a better economy. i'd like to talk about those things instead. >> with all due respect, i don't think you get it donald trump has unleashed something in this country that we have not seen for a long time. let me give you a personal example. i have been on social media a decade now. i can't remember ever getting an anti-semitic tweet. the last few days alone i have probably gotten 100. something is going on. let me finish. i'm not saying these are people that support and feel empowered by donald trump. that's what they say themselves. so donald trump has an obligation to take it seriously and repudiate that. for you to minimize it, it shows
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you haven't been the victim of it and know what it is like. >> i think that is unfair. >> i think it is unfair to say that donald trump has an obligation. what i do think -- >> why? tell me why it is unfair. >> now he is president elect, now he is president elect -- let me just say this. now that he is president elect regardless of whether he has an obligation or whether he should, he should rise above it and say i denounce all of this hatred. i don't disagree. he should denounce the hatred but it is not about the obligation but acting as a president elect. he ought to extend the behavior in to other arenas. >> he has to clean up his mess first. that's peter's point. if we are at a point where kids are chanting to build that wall. where for example i was in a car with the uber driver and he is telling me about his 6-year-old
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daughter who went to school and asked the secretary of the department of education if she was going to have to leave the country because of a muslim ban. those are donald trump's words poisoning the minds of the children. he got what he asked for. he got to be commander in chief. there is a great responsibility that comes with that. it is time to disavow the rally, kkk december 3rd in north carolina. it might be small to you but it is huge. >> it has legs. >> i want to answer a question that you asked of me. i have a son with down's syndrome and a latino adopted son. my son is made fun of every single day. people have done horrible things to my own children on the internet. usually after i appear on this network. i'm not playing don lemon for that or cnn for that. i'm saying that i think you can
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hardly blame things that took place on the internet on the president elect trump. having said that, let me say, that i do hope and pray that this man that i worked hard to elect will absolutely work towards peace and unity and lack of division. i believe that is on his agenda. i agree with you on that. >> let's hope he does that. the conversation will continue. appreciate it. that's it for us tonight. i will see you back here tomorrow.
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good evening. thank you for joining us. breaking news. a lot to cover. second night of post-election protest in a number of cities. people taking to the streets to protest the election of donald trump. looking at scenes a number of cities around the country. meanwhile, the white house today, another extraordinary image -- the images you are looking at are chicago, denver, baltimore, as well. the white house today, extraordinary images. president obama after a meeting with president elect donald trump. trump as you remember tried hard to delegitimize president obama's presidency claiming for years he wouldn't born in the united states. on the campaign trail, the president said that donald trump wasn't qualified and trump said the president was to blame for isis. today it was all about the future. jim acosta tonight reports.
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