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celebrating today as vet advance, secure right to protest not to be criminals and riot. this in stark contrast to the unity we saw with president obama and president-elect trump in this white house meeting where they pledged to work together toward a smooth and peaceful transfer of power. it comes in 70 days from now. let's get to cnn's jason carroll live at trump tower. that's the place to be. what do you see? >> good morning to you, chris. trump tower where we've seen a number of protests outside here on 57th and fifth avenue. but not as you said in washington, d.c. where things were calm, where the president and the president-elect had their first meeting. trump saying the two men had good chemistry, going as far as to say that the president is a good man. this morning, president-elect donald trump tweeting, loved the fact that the small group of protesters last night had passion for our great country. we will all come together and be proud. after calling their protests against his victory unfair, tweeting overnight that they are
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professional protesters, incited by the media. this as largely peaceful protesters across the country take to the streets for the second night in a row. the anger boiling over in portland. police classifying it as a riot. a stark contrast to the pageantry at the white house earlier in the day. trump speaking with president obama for an hour and a half inside the oval office. >> we talked about foreign policy. we talked about domestic policy. and as i said last night, my number one priority in the coming two months is to try to facilitate a transition that ensures our president-elect is successful. >> reporter: the pair, striking a conciliatory tone. >> we discussed a lot of different situations. some wonderful. and some difficulties. i very much look forward to
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dealing with the president in the future, including counsel. mr. president it was a great honor being with you and i look forward to being with you many, many more times. >> thank you, sir. >> reporter: kind words shared after years of vitriol trump perpetuating the birther conspiracy throughout obama's presidency, and vowing to rip apart obama's legacy while out on the campaign trail. >> immediately repealing and replacing obamacare. >> reporter: obama, in turn, rebuking trump's run. >> he is temperamentally unfit to be commander in chief. >> reporter: but thursday it was all about respect. first lady michelle obama, meeting over tea with melania trump in private. the president-elect ending his whirlwind tour, meeting with two men he had been at odds with, house speaker paul ryan and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell at the capitol. >> we had a fantastic, productive meeting, about getting the work, rolling up our sleeves and going to work for
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the american people. donald trump is one of the most impressive victories we've ever seen. i think absolutely spectacular things for the american people. we look forward to starting. we can't get started fast enough. we're going to lower taxes, as you know, and we're going to fix health care. make it more affordable and better. >> pausing to take in the view from where he will be sworn in 70 days from now. and while trump had favorable meetings in washington, d.c., the real test is going to come, alisyn, when he tries to put forth some of those more controversial promises that he made out on the campaign trail, like extreme vetting of muslims entering the united states, building the wall, or the deportation of undocumented immigrants living in the united states. that will be the real test. not just for washington, d.c., but for the country. >> it sure will, jason.
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so let's talk about all of that right now. we want to bring in senator jeff merkley a democrat from oregon. good morning, senator. >> good morning. >> before we get to president-elect agenda and what democrats plan to do about it, just tell me what's happening in portland in your home state there with the protests, and the riots. who are these people? >> well, certainly there have been multiple nights now of thousands of people turning out to send a message to the president that they're very concerned about the type of ideas that he put forward during his campaign, his attack on hispanics, his attack on african-americans, his attack on the handicapped. the list goes on and on. even attack on veterans during his campaign of course today being veterans day. and so it's unfortunate last night that there were a few folks in what is otherwise been a very peaceful protest, who did disrupt it. >> these are not, to your mind, professional protesters, possibly sent by the dnc and
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reince priebus or donald trump has suggested? >> no. only inside trump's own mind. >> senator let's talk about where democrats go from here. in january, prubsz were in control of the white house, the senate, the house of representatives, what can democrats do for their own agenda or even to block things that you don't like coming out of the republican agenda? >> well, certainly to the agree that incoming president trump decides he does want to fight for working america, we'll be there to work with him. for example on an infrastructure bill would be a tremendous place to start. it's something that president obama and the democrats have been trying to get done for years, and we have a president to work with us on that, that would be -- that would be terrific. on many of his ideas, for example ignoring religious freedom in america, and setting up religious tests for people
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entering the country, we will oppose him. we celebrate the diversity of america. we celebrate our constitutional vision of religious freedom, and so, some of the ideas that trump has put forward we'll vigorously oppose within the chamber of the senate and house. >> but what will that do? again, since you're not the party in control, you can oppose him, you can speak out against it but how will you actually stop what he wants to do? >> certainly for many of these ideas, it's going to be many of our colleagues across the aisle who also do not share the precise vision that or every element of the vision that trump put forward during his campaign. i will tell you one of the things i'm very concerned about is the supreme court seat. the appointment of this seat rightly belongs in the hands of president obama. what the majority in the senate has done is to basically steal that from one presidency and try to deliver it to another. which is going to greatly and
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profoundly affect the legitimacy of the supreme court. and that's doing major damage to an essential institution in our country vision. >> yeah. >> and i'm very concerned about that. >> but senator that should have failed. they effectively did it. they effectively blocked merrick garland and kept president obama from nominating him, and now president-elect trump will have the first bite at the next apple. >> well, the theft is under way. it's not quite complete until the transition of power takes place. i hope my colleagues who never really anticipated that they would succeed, and i know many of them are privately deeply ashamed of what they've been pushed into doing by their leadership, by the folks, brothers and their associates who really went in and said we want you to do something unprecedented in u.s. history, take a supreme court seat under our constitution, assigned to one president, and move it to another. and so, i'm hoping that people will recognize what damage is being done, there's still time
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to -- to hold a vote on merrick garland. and save the institution. >> hmm. senator, one of your colleagues, senator elizabeth warren, of course, no fan of donald trump during the campaign, she has said publicly that democrats are going to need to be strategic. you're not going to be able to fight every single proposal that donald trump and the republicans put forward so let me pull up for everyone what the stated agenda is from president-elect trump repeal and replace obamacare, build a wall along the u.s./mechanicco border, deport undocumented immigrants, unravel nafta and other trade deals, temporarily ban muslims from entering the u.s., he's also talked about cutting taxes. so strategically where do you go first? >> well, on that list, improving trade deals to assist manufacturing in the united states of america is certainly one of the pieces that we should talk about. but also you didn't mention he has advocated for a major infrastructure package, and i think that is something that would be very positive for us
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to -- >> right, i mean -- and i heard you say that you want to work with republicans on that. but which one are you going to fight first? the ones that you don't like? >> well, probably depends on which one he puts forward first or that the majority in the senate decides to advocate for first. one bad idea comes up, we'll certainly, as is tradition in a legislative chamber, you support the ideas that make sense, you oppose the ones that don't and you try to build a bipartisan coalition and we're going to hear a lot from american citizens about what they think of these various ideas, and it's a very dynamic point in american history. it's really a turning point. because we have someone who's campaigned saying that they're for working america, at the same time putting forward a tax package that is all about government by and for billionaires. so it's going to be an intense discussion, and i certainly feel honored to represent oregon in that chamber and fight for things that will make this
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nation work well for working families, a foundation for all families to thrive, not more for the best off. >> but quickly, senator, working class americans, voters, voted for donald trump. so, where do the democrats go from here? how do you define the democratic party now? >> well, there is one point of resonance here is that many folks who voted as this vote of protest against the status quo, i share their view about that. in the last four decades virtually all of the new income has gone to the very richest americans. this is, therefore, an economy that has not worked at all for nine out of ten americans. and that's a very huge change from world war ii through 1975. those three golden decades, we all participated in the wealth that was being generated. but not so the last four decades. and there's been a consolidation of power-making by the most powerful and the most privileged to the detriment of working
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families. >> yeah. >> and that certainly fits. but there's so much we can do to address that in terms of living wage jobs, and certainly in terms of access to education, affordable, debt-free community college, higher education, so, again, the president is actually interested in helping working families, that would be something quite different from the way he's lived his life. but if he's interested we will be there to partner on that. >> senator jeff merkley, thanks so much for being on "new day." >> you're very welcome. thank you. >> chris? >> all right. protests, celebrations, following the election of donald trump. but will he be able to bring the country together? van jones and jeffrey lord weigh in on the future of relations. next. nally found our big idaho potato truck. it's been touring the country telling folks about our heart healthy idaho potatoes, america's favorite potatoes, and donating to local charities along the way. but now it's finally back home where it belongs.
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country was divided by this campaign. and to a large extent remains that way. you've seen huge celebrations. you've also seen huge protests. or at least waves of energy in that direction. so, what goes forward? we then saw president-elect with the president. and they seemed to be in the spirit of moving forward together. this is a historic moment any way you look at it. what will it mean going forward? we have two men with great perspective to share. cnn political commentators van jones, and jeffrey lord. gentlemen, thank you for having the conversation throughout the campaign and now beyond.
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van jones, white-lash got a lot of pickup. i felt that it was unfortunate that the rest of the context of the statement did not get as much pickup as that phrase. but how do you feel now, versus the way you felt on the eve of the election? >> i feel the same. i -- i -- what i said then i'll say now. i said explicitly the trump phenomenon had good stuff in it. it was a rebellion against the elite. which i support. it was a revolution in overthrow all these pollsters and consultants who i despise. and it's been marbled through the whole time with a bunch of toxic crap. and that toxic crap, frankly, is showing up in movements across the west. and it's not just working-class people, somebody said earlier working-class people. no, working-class people of color rejected trump in large
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numbers, by huge majorities. there is a part of the white working class that has either bought into or is willing to ignore some of this toxic crap. and that's why i call it a white-lash. it's happening all throughout the west. we can't only talk about the good parts of the trump phenomenon. we can't only talk about the bad parts. we have to talk about both. and that's where the messy truth is right there in the middle where tough talk about and i'm going to keep talking about. >> well, and yes, we do have this opportunity now to have a fresh start. and to appreciate the opportunity of the mandate and see what he does. as president. donald trump. you've asked for that jeffrey lord. i want your reckoning of what we saw in our second breath. the first one was him winning, coming out, being very gracious, meeting with president obama, could have gone sideways, seemed to be perfect. then the tweets. your take on one, the fact that he tweeted at all. and then two these decidedly
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different messages. one of them damning the media once again, damning the protesters, calling them professional, no real basis in fact for this feeling. and then, instead of doubling down, at least, he tweets something opposite. i love these protesters, it's great that they did this, passion for their country, we'll all come together and be proud. which man do we get as president jeffrey? >> well, first of all, he's correct about the protesters. i mean i hate to say it but this gray hair that i now have means that i've been around for awhile. and i am old enough to remember when i was a kid, the protests in -- over vietnam, the protests over civil rights, the protests and on and on and on by the time the reagan administration was around, there were protests, there were a million people that protested in central park in new york in 1982 over the nuclear freeze. they wanted to abolish all nuclear weapons. these are people who go out there and protest at the drop of
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a hat. donald trump's only the latest excuse. 40 years ago they were protesting for hubert humphrey for heaven sakes -- >> what i'm sorry? >> they weren't even born 40 years ago -- >> i understand -- >> these are young people that you don't even know yet, and you're already saying -- you're lumping them in with people with their grandparent' generation. it's not fair. you've got to listen to each generation, each group. this is the problem we have in america. >> van, this is what they do. this is what the american left is about. >> but who is -- jeffrey, who -- >> the -- >> who is they? iwent to the protests here in new york. i didn't see any proof nor have i been able to read any proof of intense organizing around this and some manufacturing false protest so i don't know what the factual basis is for that and i certainly don't know what the factual basis is for blaming the media for inciting these, do you? >> i would turn to my friend van who sat there right next to me on cnn the other night and rattled off a list of groups
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that were responsible for the protests. we were on live cnn and van was telling us who it was. >> well, i -- i can tell you -- i can tell you the groups that called for it. but to the point -- >> there you go. >> but that doesn't mean they're professional protesters because that sounds like they're not genuine. van, here's the question. the suggestion is these are fake protesters. >> right. >> that this is fake. this is manufactured. jeffrey is that what you're saying? >> no, i don't think they're fake. >> jeffrey you don't know what you're talking about. >> but here's the problem. you have people who talk about people that they don't talk to. the difference between me and jeffrey, i went into the homes of trump voters and sat down face-to-face and broke bread during the campaign to try to have an understanding. and you know, my big problem right now is with the right wing is they are just guessing. they see something on tv it reminds them of something from 40 years ago and they start talking. you have to talk to these young
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people. they are surprising in their complexity. they are not the traditional left because they have views that are, frankly to me are somewhat bizarre sometimes, sometimes very enlightening. we've got to actually stop talking about each other and start talking to each other, and for trump to come out, and put out two diametrically opposed tweets within hours is a very disturbing sign. you can't do that when you're president of the united states. you can't -- you can't attack protesters you don't know anything about and then change it and you start doing that with foreign leaders we're going to be in deep trouble. >> jeffrey do you believe that donald trump has the ability to be the biggest man in the room? and by that i mean, that when you see things that you don't like you don't respond to every suggestion because you don't need to. you're the biggest man in the room. and when there's trouble around you, you rise above it. because you don't need to go down to anybody else's level. you're president of the united states. i don't mean that as arrogance, i mean it as the heightened view of tolerance.
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do you believe donald trump can be that person? >> well, of course. but, chris, you're assuming things. i mean, president obama did this. he didn't do it with tweets. but president obama responded to things he didn't like. and when it was out there -- >> right but it's how you do it. it's how you do it. that's my question. of course you're going to respond to what you don't like. president obama met with a man yesterday who tried to convince this country that he was illegitimate and he did it without cause, and for bad reason and yet barack obama puts patriotism before politics and raised his hand and says i want to help you. that being the biggest man in the room, isn't it? >> yeah. yeah. yeah. but i mean one of the reasons i think hillary clinton is not president-elect is because she was talking about the america's -- sizable segment of the american people as a basket of deplorables, that we're all racist and xenophobic and on and on and on she went with this list. well i think not. i think not. and that -- but that is unfortunately, this has been true for a very long time, the view of the elites in the
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democratic party of the american people. and the american people finally had their say. >> let me disagree with you jeffrey on a couple points. first of all, i think that donald trump -- you were praising president obama. i think donald trump also deserves a bunch of praise for 36 hours after the election, he was beyond picture perfect. i mean you could not have scripted a better response. not just as a president-elect, just as a human being. he was gracious. he did a lot of good stuff. and then these tweets come out. and so i think the problem that we're going to have with the trump presidency is that this inconsistency, and i hope that gets worked out. because you know, markets and foreign leaders, and also people in the country need to have consistency. one thing i'll say about jeffrey lord, as much as i disagree with him, he is consistent. he's consistently apologizing for trump's behavior, i don't like that part, but he's consistent. and so, you know, we've got to get to a point -- >> thank you. >> i agree. thank you, sir.
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we've got to get to a point where we realize the truth is messy. the truth is somewhere in the mid. the left is hypercritical and elitist and won't admit it. the right wing is hypercritical because they do have extremes they won't confess to. you have both sides with blind spots and we've got to be able to talk about them honestly because the stakes just got very high. >> right you know what also there's context here that matters jeffrey and i want your take on it. van is an advocate, you're an advocate, i'm a journalist. donald trump is the president-elect of the united states. what he does matters a hell of a lot more than anything any of us will ever do. that's why i'm asking you, whether or not these types of tweets, this might have meant one thing when he was campaigning, when he was just a businessman. he's not now. he's the voice of the united states of america. and when you hear him say, on the one hand, these protesters are either illegitimate and the media is behind it because they're terrible, and then a moment later he takes the high road, that's not presidential.
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jeffrey, and what do you see should people judge it for what it is or do you believe just give him more time? >> well, chris, i mean, i just reject the premise. i mean, i think some of these protesters are phonies. i mean, i -- >> but then why did he say, i love these small groups of protesters who are doing what this country is great about? why would he say that if he thinks they're illegitimate? >> because, chris, he is president of the united states. he does believe in the constitution. and these protesters have a constitutional right to protest. i'm for it. i mean, i -- >> but that's not what he said in the first tweet. >> but i'm -- >> you see what i'm saying? >> yeah, yeah. but, but there's nothing wrong with having an opinion about what they're protesting about. there are, in fact, professional protesters in this country. >> can i talk a little bit? >> they make this their thing. >> make a quick last word and we'll go. >> listen, the left is going to have to make a decision about constructive opposition, versus
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obstruction. and i think that there's a big debate now on the left about how that gets worked out. again, people who talk to people on the left and not about people on the left should actually be the ones who are explaining what these protests are about. that's all. >> i'm talking to you. >> and you know what? you should both keep doing it and i will keep talking to you both. i love your ideas. i'm happy to have them on the show. and as we all know the media will not yield. alisyn? >> okay, chris. as you know, a lot of americans are feeling very anxious after tuesday's outcome. so how should people cope with post-election anxiety and depression? we have a psychologist tip for you next. our mission is to produce programs and online content for african women as they try to build their businesses and careers. my name is yasmin belo-osagie and i'm a co-founder at she leads africa. i definitely could not do my job without technology. this windows 10 device, the touchscreen allows you to kind of pinpoint what you're talking about. which makes communication much easier and faster
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what a long, strange trip it's been. millions of americans are now forced to come to grips with an election outcome that many never saw coming. some taking up the battle on social media, others are deciding to give change a chance. many are stuck in the middle and angry. as cnn's kyung lah reports, emotions are still raw in this
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changing america. >> reporter: protests may be easiest to see but that's only part of what many like carrie sherman, feel. >> i think if we bring a lot of us feeling very shaken and unsure and alone and afraid. >> reporter: are you still upset? >> yeah. i'm definitely still recovering. this goes beyond politics. this goes to something deeper and more fundamental to who i feel like i am as a human being. >> reporter: sherman lives in los angeles with her husband and three children. but her anxiety is shared across social media platforms and television. from the minority woman afraid of her own name's foreign sound to the latina high school senior protesting in san francisco. >> it means a lot to me right now, because a lot of my family, a lot of my friends are undocumented. and it's not fair. it's really not fair. >> reporter: to the late-night hosts, not pulling a joke, sharing, instead, this yet
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unrealized hope for little girls watching. >> i imagine this moment today will be a defining one for you. one that will make you work harder and strive farther and whoever you are i hope i live to see your inauguration. >> reporter: and the muslim man looking for his place in trump's america. >> i'm very concerned as a muslim. i'm concerned about a candidate who is now going to be president who said on the campaign trail that he wants to ban all muslims, en masse, just because they're muslim. >> reporter: part of it is expectation. kari sherman like many believe she cast her vote for the woman who would win. >> a historic woman and vote for our first woman president. it was just such a high in that moment. and now in hindsight i've been in a bubble. i think a lot of what i'm feeling that i think other people i know are feeling is that a sense of betrayal that this country isn't what we thought it was. >> reporter: as politicians work
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toward a smooth transition in washington, many outside the beltway are finding this is a change they have yet to accept. kyung lah, cnn, los angeles. >> all right so let's discuss how to get past the post-election anxiety with neuropsychologist. thanks so much for being here. are you seeing this reflected in your own practice people coming in with more anxiety? >> everyone's talking about it. whoever is coming in obviously discussing it like everyone we know is discussing it. especially in new york we hear it all the time, yeah. >> yeah. you have some tips for people because people are desperate to feel differently. i mean they didn't expect to feel such a sense of disorientation, and anxiety. before we put them up you have a list but before that you say take it day by day. it's hard because they think in terms of four years or eight years or a lifetime or the country changing, but why does it help to just take it day by day? >> because you realize that this is, you know, this is not
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something that's going to change the face of america in one day. so i think it's important to remember that there are checks and balances in this country that the facts are going to be our friend. that this is not a one-man show and i think people think that now, you know, we're in this other universe. and we're not. so i think it's important to rationalize the facts, and remember things that things aren't going to -- the sky didn't fall the next day. we went to work. we're paying the bills. the credit card is due, the mortgage is due, and i think it's remember to remember to remember to accept that life is going to go on. and you know, that there will be changes. but they're not going to happen overnight. and we're going to have our say. and in four years, which is going to come faster than we think we'll get our say again, you know. >> one of the like deeper considerations here is, and i love psychology, i love therapy, i use it in my own life, i got a great guy, is we're always trying to learn through these process of psychology to see things for what they are and understand them.
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this is difficult here because donald trump said what he said and he said it and meant it and then you're told, but he only said because it was a campaign. give him a chance. he will be the person that you are afraid he is not. and he'll show that he's the right person for everybody. how do you have somebody to do that instead of accepting what they're telling you? >> it's hard because that's the constant -- that's the cognitive dissonance where you have to accept something that you were told for months and months and months, this is that guy. he introduced vernacular that was unacceptable and we have to tell our children oh, my god this is a bad word, this is a bad man and now we have to say hey, respect him, he's our new president. there's a lot of constantz contradictions going on that we have to live with for the next four years but you know that's part of life, and also teaching moments that you know, that this is a democracy. 50% of our country, men and women, are happy with these
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results. whether we like it or not. and you know, hopefully i think this is a unifying message has to be that hopefully we were wrong. hopefully we'll see something he surprised us this far obviously and hopefully he'll surprise us moving forward and i think part of what you just said is that, you know, we love happy endings. we didn't get our happy ending. this was a breakup -- >> some people did -- >> yeah, yeah, yeah. some people -- the ones who are -- >> people who are devastated got that sudden breakoff, they didn't get their closure. and there's a sense of control and devastation. it's like someone suddenly died and they didn't get to say good-bye. >> let me put up your tips for everyone because i think that they're very helpful. number one recognize that you can't change the outcome, only your reaction. of course, that's the aa mantra, god grant me the serenity to accept what i can't change. distance yourself from social media. that's a great one. i mean take a twitter diet. next, go about your normal day. as you say, put one poot in front of the other, get coffee, go for a walk, we saw hillary
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clinton doing that very thing. avoid hostile interactions with friends and family. >> the holidays are coming. >> right. >> and infighting between them -- and then the last one that i want you to comment on, take action in your community. what does that look like? >> so you know, i actually said this to someone the other day, we were having this conversation, i said if you feel so bad we feel better when we're actually doing something so stop talking, get out and do something. even if it's small, even if it's just in your immediate community and neighborhood especially for the minorities that feel so disenfranchised, that feel so scared and to some degree rightfully so, do something, have your voice be heard. and so in the next four years you can make a difference, and maybe have a different outcome. >> volunteering. doctor thanks so much. >> thank you so much for having me. >> good tips. you're not avoiding confrontation with your family if you're italian in american. that's called family, doc. just before the election sir richard branson went on cnn and
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police in portland, oregon, arresting 26 people after a protest turns into a riot. officers deploying flash bangs, tear gas, pepper spray, after a peaceful anti-trump protest turn into a crime overnight. several hundred people described by authorities as anarchists started lighting fires, vandalizing store fronts and cars, throwing rocks at police. >> wonder what hillary clinton's been up to? you're looking at the first picture of hillary clinton, you're about to, since conceding the race to m did. she is posing with a woman named margot gerster who stumbled upon bill and hillary clinton hiking in westchester, new york. we're told bill clinton snapped this photo. voting is under way for the cnn hero of the year.
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here is one of this year's top ten heroes. a man name harry swimmer. here you go. >> an equine assistant therapeutic riding program and we work with special needs children. and i'm a very lucky man to be able to do that. i met a little girl, nonverbal, deaf, wondered what she'd be like on a horse. i said to the grandmother, i said how about if we bring her out to the farm and let me she what she do on a horse. i brought them out here and put him on a pony and she lit up like a candle and i said, this is what i wanted to do. these children come to me with all kinds of disabilities. verbal and nonverbal. they gain so much from -- from doing something that other children don't do. that they can do. when the children are on a horse you can't tell they're disabled. they ride like anybody else. these children come to me every day with open arms, and i love every one of them.
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and this is their farm as much as it is mine. >> i love you. >> i love you, too. >> beautiful. the magic of man with passion and equine therapy. you want to vote for harry or any of the other top ten heroes? you can go to cnnheroes.com. alisyn? >> a lot's changed since tuesday, chris. business mogul sir richard branson is now my new co-host. we have his take on donald trump, and a look at his new documentary about the wild risk he took to build his brand. looking forward to it. talking to you in a minute. >> what a sellout you are. (man) hmm. what do you think? ♪
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many feel great about donald trump winning this presidential election. but not all. you are seeing protests across the country. and some are calling for americans to support each other in these challenging times. one of those voices is hillary clinton supporter name sir richard branson. of course you know him, billionaire, mogul, founder of the virgin group. he joins us now. he also has a documentary that is really watchable called "don't look down."
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it's one of the films that allows people to do things that they may want to see but never have to experience personally. it's great to see you, sir richard. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> so you were a clinton supporter. you wrote a blog post about watching the returns where you said your concern goes to the message that this election sends to children and grandchildren. how so? >> well, that was before the election. and i think now, i think we all desperately want to have donald trump prove us wrong. we want him to go to the white house, we want him to get a wonderful group of people around him, we want him to learn to delegate, and to lead by example. and i think it's important that for the next few months that we give him that benefit of the doubt. obviously as a global citizen i'm very worried about things he said like, i don't believe in global warming. i mean like 99% scientists around the world know that the world is heading for a catastrophe and we have to do
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something about it. and if the government of america, you know, backtracks on that, we may not be able to stop disaster. the business leaders worldwide may have to step in to the breach to fill the gap to create hundreds of thousands of jobs to try to get -- help get on top of the problem. but it will help a lot if the government of america do believe in things like evolution, and global warming. things that the rest of us -- the rest of the world believe in. >> what have you heard in terms of the international reaction? >> well, outside america, i think, with one voice we've been extremely worried. and most business leaders i know have been extremely worried. worried about specific issues. i mean, like, you know, universal health care is something that should be a right for citizens of the world.
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and you know, we're campaigning in many countries that don't have universal health care to help them introduce it. and the universal health care system in america was not perfect. i think it would have got better and better and better. but to abolish it, and millions of people are going to suffer in the states. you know, poor people. people will die. people will have -- misery will come back to what happened before. and so much better if donald trump goes in there and says, okay, it wasn't a perfect system, let's not abolish it, but let's get some business people in to make sure that it -- >> that's -- >> presented it -- >> right -- >> and that's the point that this election was on one level kind of like classic protocol ter at-revolt. kind of what you saw with brexit. you've been on outspoken critic of the brexit movement. it was people saying we see the direction you all want us to go,
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we don't like it. >> these people who voted for donald trump are the very people going to suffer if you don't have a universal health care system. these people are going to be the very people who are going to suffer if donald trump looks after the world and doesn't tax the 1%. so, you know, unless donald trump actually, you know, changes what he said, you know, to get elected and actually, you know, goes out there and tries to look after the working class person, i mean he's talking about let's reopen the coal mines. let put people back down into digging coal. so much better if those people were creating a clean energy revolution, pushing forward with solar, with wind power, with wave power, with new innovations to power this country with clean energy. that would keep the price of energy down and it would create hundreds of thousands of jobs in industries that would benefit america and benefit the world.
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and so i guess i would beg him and his new administration that, you know, to realize that most business leaders in america want to work with him. want to help him do these things. not to get, you know, completely entrenched in something -- in some of the things he said on the election which i think would be very damaging to this country and the world. >> tell us about your documentary. "don't look down." >> well, i foolishly as a young man decided to see if i could be the first team to cross the atlantic in a hot air balloon. >> and why did you want to do that? because you just love the thrill? >> well, it actually started, we had one plane, virgin atlantic, 747 we were up against british airways 300 and we thought this would be a way of putting it on the map. >> why did you go with the diragible. why did you use the hot air balloon? i see you as more of a zeppelin guy? >> i should have done. anyway, it became a great adventure. >> alisyn liked that one.
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>> we then ended up trying to be the first to cross the pacific, and then go around the world. it was quite a gripping -- >> it does seem gripping, and like a great adventure and i believe we have a clip from it. that shows just how hair-raising it is. let's watch this. >> suddenly i saw what looked like chunks of flame falling all around the top of the dome. and for a second i thought, you know, i'm -- i'm, you know, i'm beginning to hallucinate out of tiredness. and now i realized, christ we're on fire. >> chunks of flame falling from the balloon. is that a bad thing? >> it's not the thing you want halfway across the pacific in a hot air balloon. >> then what happens? >> he doesn't die. i'll tell you that right now. >> we had to go up as fast as we could to where the air was really thin up at 50,000 feet to put the fire out.
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>> there's less oxygen up there. so people ask the obvious question while this is cool to watch why would you put yourself in this kind of jeopardy consistently? what do you tell them? >> why would somebody climb everest? you know, i think if something hasn't been done before and you have a chance to do it it's very difficult just to sit in front of a television and watch somebody else do it. and i'm the kind of person that says, you know, i love adventure. i love to push myself. i love to see what i'm capable of. and anyway i've been very fortunate. i've survived. i've -- i've -- i've -- i can now lead a -- leave some memories for my grandchildren to watch. >> and is that why you did it? i mean is that why you wanted to do this documentary and sort of do a retrospective of -- >> my son had a film company. he actually made it. and -- and you know, there are -- it's -- it is actually, you know, i mean i've sat on the edge of my seat with three or
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four nieces and nephews all sitting there watching it and they kept looking at me to see if i was still alive because it's one of those kind of documentaries that, yeah, we had a lot of very near-misses. but it's pretty exciting. >> where can people find it? >> well, you can get it through normal things like apple and so on, and then we -- it's launched in a number of cinemas this week around the country. >> that's good. >> thank you. >> sir richard branson, thanks so much. great to talk to you. >> thank you. >> sharing a little clip with us and sharing your stories. >> i hope you two can relax now the election is over but i doubt it. >> i've been saying to alisyn for weeks this idea it ends on november 8th was never going to be the case. "newsroom" with carol costello is going to begin right after this short break. have a great weekend. your path to retirement may not always be clear. but at t. rowe price, we can help guide your retirement savings. so wherever your retirement journey takes you, we can help you reach your goals. call us or your advisor t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
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