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>> not everyone. it's inside of all of us. it's so true. and by coming to create someone else's home it's a feeling in all of us. >> thanks very much. >> thank you for everything. [ applause ] ♪ we have to repeal obamacare. >> and it could be replaced with something much better for everybody. >> trump telling "the wall street journal" he is up to preserving portions of obamacare. >> not our president! not our president! >> this is a tough time for our country. i think we've seen how people have been reacting to the events. >> if there's any healing in this country, it's going to are to start with donald trump walking about a lot of what he said during the campaign.
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>> i think the tone is something we saw a change on election night. now the president will rule the people. you know, we always appreciate your company. thank you for being here. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. good morning to you. we have new details on breaking news from afghanistan. four people killed after a deadly attack on a u.s. base. >> u.s. officials say an enemy device was indeed detonated at bagram air base. cnn's barbara starr is going to joining us with details just a little bit later. here in the u.s., anger boiling over in portland. police are searching for a gunman after one person was shot during an anti-trump protest. >> this is outrage after the donald trump presidency intense ties. let's start in atlanta.
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protesters lights fire to the state flag outside of state capitol. >> and then miami, demonstrators had this message for the new president-elect. >> donald trump is not welcome. go happily. >> trump supporters, though, have a different message, give the president-elect a chance. cnn's polo sandoval has more. polo, we understand there was also a shooting in portland. >> major american cities we have seen the numbers grow, as you mentioned, victor, some have grown in intensity as well. >> reporter: a third night of nationwide protests as thousands marched down interstates and streets to vent their anger about the election of donald trump. there was some violence. >> a flash bang was thrown by
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police. >> reporter: in portland, police used flash bang after things were thrown at officers. and this morning a shooting at a bridge where protesters had gathered. that shooting happened after an apparent confrontation. the unidentified man was taken to the hospital with nonlife-threatening injuries. the suspect fled the area. and investigators have not provided details on numbers or charges. in atlanta, an american flag was burned near the georgia state capitol building. police reported no arrests. and in miami, protesters walked along interstate 95, forcing four lanes of traffic to come to a standstill. and angry crowds gathered outside of the 58-story trump tower, the president-elect's home in new york. there have been nightly protests of trump's election. more demonstrations are expected for the weekend.
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>> of course, this morning, police across the country getting ready, as you mentioned, for another day of protests. police in los angeles getting ready to see a huge march in mckarth thm mcarthur park that is one of the largest latino communities. >> thank you so much. all of this happening as donald trump supporters are waiting for the president-elect to turn promise into policy here. president-elect trump appearing to be opening to compromising on one of his significant rally cries. the repealing of obamacare. chris, talk to you about what we heard from trump overnight? >> reporter: yeah, christi, donald trump making policy news telling "the wall street journal" that he favors keeping some key parts of obamacare. he said after he med with president obama earlier in the week, he came away wanting to allow people with preexisting conditions get coverage. and he also said he'd like to see children be able to get
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coverage well into adulthood under their parents' plan. in fact, he said when he does repeal and replace most of obamacare, which he still wants to do, people won't lose their coverage. here's how he said he's going to do it. >> we're going to do it simultaneously. we'll be just fine. that's what i do. i do a good job. i know how to do this stuff. we're going to repeal it or replace it. we're not going to have a two-day period or a two-year period where there's nothing. it will be repealed and replaced and we'll know. it will be great health care for much less money. >> reporter: donald trump sounding a lot less strident than he did, maybe trying to show a little more compromise down the road here, guys. >> chris, thanks. we appreciate it much. well, as president-elect trump transitions to the white house, he not only faces a divided country but a republican party that also needs to heal.
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one way he may try to bridge the divide, cabinet noises. >> some of the names on trump's short list, they're well-known and longtime party insiders people like newt gingrich, rudy giuliani. reince priebus, jeff sessions. those candidates could create a new headache some say for trump who promises reporters that he would, in his words, drain the swamp. >> here to talk about this, ash ashland bell. a ashland, great to have you back. we talk about draining the swamp. i want to let you hear what we heard from john hew in the justice department during the first term of president bush. donald trump said he's going to drain the swamp and get rid of the people that he thought caused the problems. >> i'm surprised there's so many people here i thought everyone at heritage was working over at
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the transition headquarters. i asked the taxicab driver to take me to trump transition headquarters and he dropped me off here instead. >> he's making a joke there. but there are a lot of familiar faces from the reagan administration. the first bush and second bush administration. how can he drain the swamp? >> i think it's a different administration. only in d.c. does it make sense for people to walk into a job interview, talk to somebody who is going to hire them and they have already given that their money. these people weren't trump contributors, big donors, he's walking in and seeing people with experience and hiring them. >> the problem is i won't look at people equally based on their merits, he's says i'm draining the swamp and getting rid of the problems. if you're reaching back 30 years to the reagan administration, that's not draining anything. >> i don't think that's the right analysis on this.
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you got to look at the people who created problems like obamacare. the problem with special interest got in the room, closed the door, set the table to create a bill that no one read before they passed. and it's unaffordable and unable to operate in a way that the american people want it to operate. so there's the problem. special interests, lobbyists. there's the swamp. not necessarily the prior administration. >> and we'll talk about obamacare, although donald trump said he wants to fully repeal it, he now has said he wants to keep some of those provisions. let's talk about the job of chief of staff. jen ny martin. she writes no washington insider regardless of who it is should serve as trump's chief of staff. pointing reince priebus for any
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position would make it much more difficult to achieve what the people voted for. it's time to drain the swamp and not the people beholdingen to that. you chuckled, why? >> because that's not true. to be tempered to look out and say i want to get different views for different people. reince priebus, personally, i can tell you he's someone who deeply cares about this country. i think that's the number one responsibility of anyone in that job, to put country first. time and time again, he was able to navigate a primary with multiple factions in a way that only the democrats wished they had. people had left the democratic national chairmanship. in a term that's he's been one. >> and it looks like reince priebus is going to the front of that line that he should have an
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official role in the administration? >> he's something that president-elect trump looks to i think people like mr. bannon have an opinion or view need to be included. he shouldn't lock anybody out. the best ideas come from debate. the best ideas come from competition. they have to make sure mr. trump continues that. he'll make a decision ultimately about the direction of this country. >> we know that steve bannon headed up breitbart.com. the conservative news website that once called itself the home of the all right. the all right being for some a home for white nationalists. and what would you tell the protesters who are concerned about this type of voice? this type of advocate being part of the trump team? >> you know what, i will tell the protesters, let's focus on solutions. let's talk about not just being angry but have a plan. hillary clinton set it out, said
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look, folks, anger is not a plan. there's a incoherent message there. you're just talking about hate. but what are you talking about as far as policy? are they focused on progress or unrest? >> i think watching our correspondents discuss the election with those protesters, they're concerned about the policy prescription that donald trump has put forward as it relates to muslim mens, as it relates to the wall that's been being proposed to be built. where do you stand on that tweet that came out when he said it's very unfair what he saw from the protesters after there was, of course, an open election, after he won but he called it rigged up to that point? >> you know, i look at it, and hillary clinton did a good job saying this is tough. people are going to have a hard time getting over this. but he's the president now. we owe him an open mind.
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give him a chance. i think even obama has said that. let's bring the country together and give him a chance. he hasn't done anything to cause unrest. it's not day one. >> is it appropriate for a man elected and in 69 days as president of the united states, to call people who are exercising their first amendment rights unfair? >> is it fair to judge a man before he takes his first day on the job? i don't think that's fair. give him a chance. >> stay with us, we've got a lot more to talk about. >> speaking of that, it's donald trump and the policies, now that he's heading into the white house, what policies will he pursue? that conversation next. also, the democratic party looking to move forward after leaving the white house. the first step, finding a new leader.
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hispanics are living. and i say it with such a deep-felt feeling, what do you have to lose? i will straighten it out. i'll bring jobs back. we'll bring spirit back. we'll get rid of the crime. you'll be able to walk down the street without getting shot. right now, you walk down the street, you get shot. >> that's part of the appeal that donald trump made to african-american voter s during the primary. and you look at the numbers, he did better than mitt romney did with african-american voters in 2012. two points better than romney with black men. a point better with black women. let's go to the number with latino men holding at 33%. and latino women, three points better at 26% to romney's 23%. back here with senior strategist, african-american director of the engagement, ashley bell.
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congratulations on those numbers. during the primary, those were in the single digits. during the general, they were single digits. >> by the way, we started at zero. negative two. big jump there. >> 13 points. how did you do it? >> look, we took advantage of what we knew was brewing in the community. look at bright men, 16% for trump. to his direct appeal, to people who understand what the criminal justice reform that happened in the '90s that was disastrous and led to massive incarnation, who is that going to affect the most? black men. they were listening. we focused on black male barber shops. in 2012, we would go to barber shops, obama everywhere. obama signs everywhere. there were no signs of clinton.
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we thought, if these going to ignore it, we're going to double down. they paid for lunches and we battled. >> it's been a while because you've been busy obviously. you were talking about criminal justice reform. i want to play what you said, this is back in july, right after the democratic national convention. and this is what you said then about criminal justice reform and donald trump. >> okay. >> i want 100%. this is something absolutely critical with my nominee, until donald trump comes up a criminal justice platform, he's going to be in serious territory. many republicans like myself, we're right there. that's an earnest issue, we get to the debate, you can't just say we support police officers. because i support them, he also supports them. we also understand there's a problem with the criminal justice system. >> that's predebate. where is the criminal justice
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reform package plan, proposal from donald trump, didn't come out during the election. are you writing? >> right after that, i took a job to go with the rnc and help with the issues. i will say this, there's been great discussion, a lot of information out there, our colleagues in the congress have done a good job of setting the table. donald trump has come out and said he's going to put together a blue ribbon committee to focus on criminal justice reform because he knows going to take compromise. good ideas. i think the table is set to finally get something done. i'm cough accident that republicans controlling the house, congress is going to see leadership from this white house that's going to close some of the loopholes. >> what is the indication that donald trump now, after this entire campaign, and his rhetoric, now wants to get to criminal justice reform. you say the table is set? >> the table is set. >> but it's been -- there are people like me, who believe in this president, the only reason
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i went to work with the rnc to help him get elected because i know that he understands what it's going to take to change our criminal justice system. and putting together the right people in the right place and getting the table set. the reason we're in this position is because democrats and republicans and the like failed. it's going to take a lot amount of people at the table to change the massive incarceration that we have right now. people like me are rooting for him. >> i hear you. he's got a long list of campaign promises to fulfill before he gets to something he has not spoken about in detail. ashley bell good to have you on the show. congratulations. >> all right. this sunday in an exclusive interview with jake tapper, we're going to hear from house speaker paul ryan after putting his differences with trump behind the two of them. how will he help to drive the president-elect's agenda? again, that's state of the union tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern.
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breaking news out of afghanistan. four people killed and more than a dozen others injured. this happened after a deadly attack on a u.s. air base there in afghanistan. >> a u.s. official has confirmed an enemy device was detonated in bagram air base. and the taliban have now claimed responsibility for the attack. they did so in a tweet. cnn penalty gone correspondent
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barbara starr joins us on the phone. what can you tell us about it? >> it remains under urgent investigation. officials are telling us they are still working to treat the wounded, as you said, about 14 people wounds, and four having lost their lives in it. security very much tightened up right now at bagram air base. this is about an hour north of kabul. this is the largest base with u.s. military and contractor personnel are located in afghanistan. when we say enemy device, we were able to confirm it was an enemy attack. it was nothing like an accidental explosion or anything like that. this was an attack. and so the question now is how did someone get inside the taliban, taking pretty fe ing c. there is very strict security at these bases. i've been at bagram many, many times. if you come in a vehicle, you
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are stopped well before the outside gate. vehicles are searched. people are searched. people must have i.d. so it's very difficult to understand right now how this might have happened. there are about 14,000 people on bagram air base. about 60% of them are contractors. locals do move on and off the bases. some of these contractor jobs. but how this happened is going to be a matter of intense investigation. because over the years, there has been rare, thankfully, instances where bases have been breached. just a couple years ago, down in southern afghanistan, the taliban got on to helmand base. and there was a running fire fight across the base for a few hours before they were brought. they were captured. it happens, it's so rare, that this now will be a matter of very intense investigation. >> barbara, we only have a
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couple of seconds but from what you're telling me, i just want to clarify, from what you're saying because security is so tight and they can't determine who did this, is it possible whoever planted this might still be on the base? >> well, we don't know, to be clear, if it was potentially a suicide bomber, if they were killed in the explosive. but this is on the equivalent of large scale. so they will be looking to see if there are any other people involved before they let any -- anybody exit the base. it's very intense investigation going on right now. >> barbara starr, we so appreciate your insight. especially since you've been to the base. thank you so much for helping us today. >> sure. donald trump said throughout the campaign that he would build a wall on the u.s./mexico border and deport millions of undocumented immigrants living in the u.s. starting with those who have committed additional crimes. well, we'll have reaction from
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we appreciate it. i'm christi paul. >> i'm victor blackwell. >> you know, it was one of the signature rallying cries on the campaign trail. repeal obamacare. obviously this was on the campaign trail for donald trump. in an interview with "the wall street journal" trump appears to be open to compromise now, telling the publication he'd like to keep the conditions on preexisting conditions and allows young americans to stay on their parents' health care. here's what he told "60 minutes." >> we're going to repeal it or replace it. and we're not going to have like a two-day period or two-year period where there's nothing. it will be repealed and replaced. and we'll know. and it will be great health care for much less money. >> meanwhile, for a third night in a row, anti-trump protesters hits the streets across the country in cities such as portland. that's where demonstrations
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turned violent after one person was shot. police say the gunman is still at large. the victim being treated for nonlife-threatening injuries right now. immigration has been a big focus of donald trump's campaign and he promised to build a wall along the mexico/u.s. border. now the president-elect, is he going to keep his campaign promise? ed lavandera is with us. i know you spoke to people in mexico. what are they saying about trump's plan? >> reporter: clearly, nobody is a fan of that idea. top officials all week long have been subdued in their response. top government officials waiting to see exactly how donald trump is going to move forward. many government officials also say there's no way mexico will pay for that wall. >> we're going to build a great wall. the wall just got ten feet higher. maybe some day they'll call it the trump wall. >> reporter: the border between united states and mexico
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stretches nearly 2,000 miles nearly 700 miles covered with border wall or steel fencing, but donald trump wants more. >> on day one, we will begin working on an impenetrable, physical, tall, powerful, beautiful southern border wall. >> well, of course it can be done. >> reporter: professor michael deer is an expert in regional planning and the author of the book why walls don't work. >> a large concrete structure 25 feet high which should be very intense in resources and money. >> reporter: in fact, cnn has surveyed a number of engineers and architects. the wall would most likely be made of precast cement wall panels 25 feet tall. 10 feet wide, 8 inches thick. requiring 339 million cubic feet of concrete. the panels would be held together by 5 billion pounds of reinforced steel. with an estimated cost of at least $10.5 billion and possibly
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much more. trump supporters say they can't wait to see the beginning of the border wall construction. >> that wall will get built and mexico's going to pay for that wall. >> i think he'll try to build a wall and secure our borders. >> if people want to come into the country, they should do it legally. >> reporter: but in mexico the idea of a wall is often shrugged off as a bump in the road north. jose torres said he's illegal crossed into the u.s. many times to find work and fruits and vegetables. he said a wall might make crossing over a little harder, but immigrants like him will always find a way to find work to feed their families. and this man says he's crossed the border 25 times starting when he was just 16 to work farm fields all over the u.s. he said keeping people like him out of the country will only hurt the u.s. >> he said if he tries to remove
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all of the mexicans isn't in the united states, donald trump will realize what a huge mistake that is and how much the u.s. economy depends on mexican immigrants. >> reporter: and victor and christi, also what you hear, a lot of people referring to jokingly if the u.s. would build a 20-foot wall, we'd all of a sudden see a huge market for 21-foot ladders. >> ed lavandera. thank you so much. after a long and tumultuous election season the democratic national committee is now searches for a new leader. and at the top of the list, a few familiar cases. former dnc chair howard dean said he's once again hoping for the job as party chair. former presidential candidate martin o'malley said he's considering it as well. senator bernie sanders is supporting minnesota representative keith ellison for the job. the change is just one of the reforms that senator sanders is pushing for the democratic party
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remake after the clinton party defeat. in an op-ed, sanders writes this, i am saddened but not surprised by the outcome. it is know shock to me that millions of people who voted for mr. trump did so because they're sick and tired of the economic political and media status quo. >> hillary clinton is urging supporters to get back out there and keep fighting for what they believed to. she spoke in a conference call to supporters yesterday and admitted it was a tough few days. >> this is a tough time for our country. i think we've seen how people have been reacting to the events of this election. and i know that we've got to be reaching out to each other to keep it clear in our own minds that what we did was so important." >> both hillary clinton and bernie sanders say they're willing to work with donald trump once he takes office. donald trump is headed to
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the white house. but the dozens of lawsuits, well, they will follow him. we'll ask our expert what is this could mean for president-elect trump. and the road to victory promising to restore law and order. it has a lot of people on edge regarding exactly what does that mean? what is he going to do? ahead, a top law enforcement official joins us to offer some advice to donald trump. sleep." i got it. hashtag "mouthbreather." yep. we've got a mouthbreather. well, just put on a breathe right strip and ... pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than cold medicine alone. so you can breathe ... and sleep. shut your mouth and say goodnight mouthbreathers. breathe right.
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president-elect trump. they're calling on trump to dial back. remember, trump has promised a mass deportation to remove 11 million undocumented immigrants. ban the entry of muslims and institute aggressive programs targeting them and restrict a woman's right to abortion. as well as reauthorized waterboarding and changing libel laws. now, the aclu says they're going to watch him closely, and if he does make these kinds of changes in the country, they will fight back. >> let's bring in constitutional attorney paige graet. >> they grau a line in the sand. the aclu has the ability to legally challenge any challenge that the president will make. it's different than suing him personally. they would sue him in his official capacity or someone else in the administration to
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try to get a court to review the constitutionality of a particular proposal. >> now, that's something that could come after he takes the oath but there are several, like 75 lawsuits that trump and his interests are facing as he heads into the white house. what's the future of those? >> well, we've never seen anything like this. presidents have had lawsuits filed against them before. kennedy had one, bill clinton had one recently. presidents are immune for taking office. you can sue them individually for things they did in office. he's going to have to fails the lawsuits. he's going to have to go through depositions what he did before a candidate and theoretically have to testify. >> we've got four years of an
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administration, i guess this can't be put off four or eight years until after his administration ends. >> we don't know. that's a great question. i think some judges would push that back and say it's logistically difficult to call the president in from say, the g20 summit. we heard that a lot of people that did business with him were simply stiffed. had to sue him to try to get their money back. for a judge to say, we're going to have to wait four years or eight years. >> do you see settlements? >> that would be the easiest way to get them resolved. get them settled before you actually take office so you don't are that distraction, or potential distraction while w r you're president. >> there was one promise made that stood out to everyone who watched the third debate that donald trump made. let's watch that. >> if i win, i am going to instruct my attorney general to
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get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. because there has never been so many lies. so much deception. there has never been anything like it. and we're going to have a special prosecutor. >> now, do you expect that he'll make good on that promise. >> it seems like he's already walking back a little bit from that promise. he could do it. legally, he can absolutely do it. he will control the justice department. he could have his attorney general do it. he could appoint a special prosecutor. but we've never seen anything like this before. certainly the advisers who are talking with him, hopefully with law degrees, say this is not a good direction to go but it's possible. >> and there could be lawsuits filed against the women who said he assaulted them. he said it in gettysburg in the speech saying he would sue each of these women. now that he's president-elect in about 69 days, i assume we
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haven't seen anything like that either. do you expect he will file those lawsuits? >> i don't. he threatens lawsuits all the time. his old motto was saying i'll sue you before i build the wall. it's unfitting to have a president filing lawsuits and suing people. no. >> page pate, great to have you here. at the top of the hour, we have more for you on that deadly attack on a u.s. air force base. why officials say it was indeed an enemy attack. who could be behind it. president trump promises to restore law and order. now that he's the president-elect, what that looks like. a top law enforcement official talks about what he's appealing to trump to do. diabetes can be a daily struggle,
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protesters marched for a third-straight night in cities across the country, outraged by the trump election. most of these protests have been peaceful. >> but we have seen in portland here police say a man suffered non-life threatening injuries after someone shot him last night. the suspect fired multiple shots before running off. he is still at large this morning. >> let's bring in cedrik alexander, also the former president of the national
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organization of black law enforcement executives and served on president obama's task force on 21st century policing. >> cedrik, you've seen the protesters, even including here in atlanta marching against the president elect over some of the things he said and promised to do, including his emphasis on law and order. i want to read something that you wrote in an op-ed for cnn.com about trump's brand for law and order. it reads in part, law is legislation, enacted by the paem's representatives in government. we are all obliged to obey the law. order, as we understand the concept in the 21st century, is created by the people, the police, the legislature and the courts as they work together to administer the law. order is not simply forced on people by the police or handed down to them by congress or the courts. order is a collaboration among all. the product of the american community. but cedrik, there are many american communities that feel they are targeted by this. how does donald trump bridge
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that gap? >> well, i think it's very important for us to accept the fact that all of us as americans that we do have a new american president elect and going into this administration i think it's important for the new president elect to take a look at history as it relates to the words law and order and what it has meant in this country and certainly to people abroad as well. depending on where you come from, if you're in this country from a third world country and hear the term law and order, it could have some real negative connotation associated with it. if you grew up in this country, certainly the word law and order has negative connotations to it in which people were treated we must say unfairly and nowhere near the constitution that was written for all the people in this country. if we're going to talk law and order today, particularly in the 21st century, it's important that we understand as i've written in the op-ed that the
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law was written and given to us by ledgislaturelegislatures, des and hold us accountable, all of us. when we speak to order, i think it's important that we realize that order for all of us means that that's community, people who live in neighborhoods, police officers, that's governments, that's our courts, that's our entire judicial system that must make sure we work in collaboratively together in order to create a neighborhood that is orderly in which we all feel very safe in, but we have to move away from the negative connotation that has so often been attached to the term law and order. >> you say there's a blueprint to do this effectively. what is in that blueprint that would speak to the people in these communities who feel like they don't have a voice? >> well, you know, the 21st century task force report, which i hope that president elect and his team take a look at before
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they discard it, in there are some perfect recommendations that will continue advanced policing in this country and will encourage all of us who have already taken hold of that document and it's implementing the document to the betterment of law enforcement. so you take, for example, in the first pillar of that document, building trust and legitimacy, that is hugely important for us to be able to do as we continue to build relationships with police and community. the issues that we've seen in the past particularly over the last three years will continue to be challenging. there's still a lot of hurt, angry and pain people n out there across this country and in every community across this country. so i think it's important that we must never forget the fact even moving into this new administration that we have to pay close attention to our relationships with police and community and i would hope that president elect trump in his administration will take to heart all the great work that has been done, not just by us,
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but i citizens all across, police departments all across this country, who want to take an opportunity to make sure that we continue to advance the great work that has been done. >> you know, one of the most controversial suggestions donald trump made is reestablishing stop and brisk. let's listen here -- >> now, whether or not in a place like chicago you do stop and frisk, which worked very well, major giuliani is here, worked very well in new york, brought the crime rate way down, but you take the gun away from criminals that shouldn't be having it. we have gangs roaming the street and in many cases they're illegally here, illegal immigrants and they have guns and they shoot people and we have to be very strong and we have to be very vigilant. >> remember that tactic was ultimately deemed prejudice because it disproportionately affected minority groups. what do you say to them when donald trump is talking about something like this? >> well, here is what i would say to the president elect as
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the country listens, it is very important that we understand stop and frisk and the challenges that were -- that came along with that. and also what has been ruled to be unconstitutional. i think it's important that any time if we're going to use aggressive policing we have to be very smart about it. we have to include the community in helping us to reduce crime. we can go out with stop and frisk and we're going to violate the rights potentially, certainly has been seen in the past has been shown through our judicial system, a number of people's rights were cheerily violated. we can say, yes, it brought down crime, but here is what has to happen, we have to bring -- we can't just bring down crime. and while community discontent rises, we have to bring down crime and also have to maintain community corporation in us being able to do so. it's a partnership.
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>> sure. >> police cannot solely do this by themselves. it takes the effort of both police and community in order to solve and reduce crime in a neighborhood. this can't be one and not enough of the other. they must be mutually agreed upon goals that have to be achieved collectively. >> cedrik alexander, we appreciate you being here. thank y thank you. >> thank you for having me. lot of news to talk to you about this morning. >> next hour of your "new day" starts after this short break. ♪ put some manwich on the table... and give boring weeknight meals, the night off. ♪make tonight a manwich night it begins from the the second we're born.er. because, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned every day. using wellness to keep away illness.
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