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american politics. inside politics, the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics" i'm john king. thanks for sharing your sunday morning to the trump administration, and complete republican control of washington. three questions to frame our sunday conversation. question one, combative and conciliato conciliatory. in picks his team, will the new president stick closely to the campaign trip or surprise us by keeping pieces of obamacare? >> and there's going to be a period if you repeal it and before you replace it where millions of people -- >> we're going to do it simultaneously. he'll be just fine. that's what i do, i do a good job. i know how to do this stuff. >> question two, who what big changes are ahead on the world straj? russia is celebrating, mexico is in no mood paying for the wall.
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it is ready to work on trade deals, like nafta. >> it is an opportunity to think if we should modernize it, not renegotiate it, but modernize it and more people in the three countries. of these integration agreements that we signed 22 years ago. >> question three, and this is a big one, with the the democrats? it puts the legacy in question and closes the clinton era in politics. >> this is painful, and it will be for a long time, but i want you to remember this, ourp campaign was never about one person or even one election. it was about the country we love. and about building an america that's hopeful, inclusive, and big-hearted. donald trump is going to be our president. we owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. >> with us to share the reporting and insights, maggie
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haverman of the new york times. and jennifer jacobs. the campaign is over, but don't think for a second the disruption is. donald trump surprised us in the winning the nomination, stunned the world in winning the election and saying it'll bring much more surprise. conservatives on edge by considering washington insiders for big jobs and talking openly of keeping big piece of president obama's health care law. democrats still reeling and nervous he'll quickly reverse financial regulation and much, much more as we start the conversation if you're keeping count at home. this is the 45th president of the united states, just 6. days away. and we don't know what we're going to get. that's the fascinating part. the sunday after the election. he is a republican president. he will have a republican house, republican senate, if you look at his history, he's also a deal maker and he has been on the democratic side of many issues.
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and that's why this town is more on edge than any election i can think of, light? >> we don't know what to expect as someone wrote today. we really don't though. trump is coming into this, it's not that he's been on all sides and he's a republican president. my colleague jonathan mart nl wrote a story that was quite accurate, basically ran as a third party candidate, but used the republican brand. he is very in favor of preserving in entitlements, he said that over time during the campaign. the obamacare comments of last woke were in keeping with that. if you think about where he is, he is sort of a new york democrat for lack of a better way of putting it. he has said a lot during his campaign but a lot was basically a big headline with almost no details. he's going to be filling this in any kind of way. one of the things about trump that's posht to know that i
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think the people are not totally familiar with, he's very influenced by whoever last talks to him. a lot are. he have spent the day with obama, 90 minutes whereby obama talks about obamacare, what did we see the next day? i don't think that's an accident. if obama wants to preserve his legacy having like a weekly conversation with trump might be the best way. >> chief of state of of the trump white house, but dan, until you get to this point, did we just elect our first independent president. he won the republican nomination. are we going to get a new republican party out of this with positions on trade, entitlement, positions on infrastructure spending or a new republican party out of this or just an aberration, but now a republican president? >> well, he is an aberration as he said in terms of his positions. i think that, you know, one of the first key indicators is the dedpee to which he seeds power
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to the congressional leaders or retains it for himself. you'll remember in 1992, bill clinton gave power over to the congressional leaders in the democratic party and came to regret it two years later. so, donald trump either learn fls that lesson or he doesn't. and republican congressional leaders see okay, now we have a republican president. we can do what we've wanted for a long time. his agenda is not the same as their agenda. that's where the potential clash is going to happen. >> what will they think if you're speak earl of the house, paul ryan, mitch mcconnell, you think you have nice meetings, you think after those meetings he's essentially going to let you pass your stuff and sign most of it, and then you pick up the "wall street journal" and this is the president-elect saying the conversation with the president, i told him i'll like at his suggestions and out of respect, i will do that. the amended part is dmot in the republican playbook. >> yeah, that's not what the republican base was expecting.
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now, on those two provisions he wants to keep in ensuring that people have preexisting conditions or not and people can stay on the plans until the age of 26. those popular ideas, but if you're to keep that in the current law, then it opens up a whole bunch of other issues in obamacare. >> how do you pay for it? >> healthier people in the insurance pool in addition to the sick people with preexisting conditions or keep costs down. you need to have a mandate. there's an individual mandate. now huge parts of obamacare. him keeping those might sound popular opens up a whole other can of worms. you know, he also mentioned that he wants to replace at the same time as repealing with, procedurally, it is impossible to do that unless he waits maybe two years to possibly get that done. it's going to take a really long time to get any replacement bill down. probably not going happen -- >> there he's going to break
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another campaign promise. >> he says in that 60 minutes tonight interview, he says, no, no, there will not be an interim period. there will not -- now, again, promises made, sometimes hard to keep. sometimes during the campaign, sometimes after the campaign, but he's saying that will not happen. we will not have this period where people are trying to figure this out and maybe in the end it's fine, uncertainty. he says listen to him here again on this interview tonight. we can laugh about this, whatever we want about this, but the power of social media to him was incredible. sometimes he used it to anger supporters, sometimes he used it in a slash and burn way. how does he handle that as president? >> i'm not saying i love it, but it does get the word out. when you give me a bad story or
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when you give me an inaccurate story, i have a method of fighting back that's very tuf. >> you're going to do that as president. >> i'm going to do restrained, if i use it at all, i find it tremendous, it's a modern form of communication. there should be nothing you should be ashamed of, it's where it's at. >> he will be at potus in 67 days. he gets the handle, what do we see? >> staff are hoping he's too busy to have time to be tweeting, but yeah, we see, you know, the candidate trump, you know, was one way and was very abrasive and i think people were hoping to see that president trump would be much more restrained. i want to mention on the obamacare things, people who covered him did hear him talking about keeping some of those pledges. that's no surprise to us. he was talking early on about wanting to keep people covered and not get rid of that preexisting condition. >> right, the the shot there, the pressure there is that republican leaders thought we will bring him our way on those
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issues and pass our plan. he seems to be stieking where he was in the campaign. it is a much more sen tryst position. >> and he thinks they can fold. meetings with these people went well. staff said they were unbelievably welcoming and there just wasn't. they're saying they expect him to be him and paul ryan to be maybe the most effective couple ever. >> okay. let's see what happens when paul ryan says let's pass my privatized medical title, donald trump's on the record saying we're not going to do that. >> i was thinking about this as you were talking, he's on the record saying lots of things. and yes, he talked wanteding to make sure people are covered. and i think he does mean that. on the other hand, he would then go to rallies and say we're going to repeal and replace, this is a terrible law -- >> but i don't anyone dying in the street. >> people will hear what they want to hear. somebody who's a supporter of his said to me last week, you know, essentially we've elected
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gardener as president, which is take out the negative, but meaning that people are going to read what they want. you know, he's very good at throwing out a bunch of different things and people will seize on a different portion and hear what they want in it. and that's a lot harder when you're president. >> one other aspect of that, and that is everything you say during a campaign people can take for what they want. the minute you are president-elect, and we've seen this in the past, people who have said things a as candidate, if they become president, president-elect, and say them again, people think about them and read about them in a different way. that they become more serious and so the more he talks about these kinds of things been the more people are going to form an opinion about it. >> and that's why it was interesting when he was on the hill last week. he stopped after the meeting with mcconnell, he came by, talked to the press very briefly. he's asked specifically well about your ban on muslims and ended the gaggle, did not to
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want address that top ping we have not heard him talk about the wall and the board we are mexico. and if he were to do that, it'd be very difficult to get that done. it was a central campaign promise of his as well. >> let's show, just to remind our viewers or if you're shocked from the campaign. let's look. the trump promises. ban on muslims, he moderated to restrictions on people entering from countries where there are terrorism problems. he never splanld how that would work. repeal and replacing obamacare. it was not amend, it was repeal and replace. special prosecutor, renegotiate nafta, there are a couple of repeal dodd frank, financial regulations. which trump do we get? here's candidate trump and here's the guy thaends up being president trump. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shut down of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can
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figure out what the hell is going on. we will build a wall, mexico is going to pay for the wall. we're going to stop drugs from coming in. but if i win, i am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. there has never been so many lies, so much deception, there's never been anything like it. >> let's go through that -- number one the muslim ban becomes a tougher policy on refugees that the republicans in congress agree with. easy someone this might be upsetting, that seems simple, right? >> part of the issue is that his campaign spent a year trying to get him to stop saying muslim. there was an attempt to try to make it regional and get him to start talking about certain countries, and that never stopped once you've taken this extreme position, something like we don't have a religious test,
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that's going to resinate. i think that something likes that he's going to have an easier time walking away from, contrary to expectation about the advisors around him. i think they're going to be realists, but i do think there is going -- there is a real risk as we move into this administration the more he looks like a conventional politician that his own base is going to be skbrup set. >> the wall as mentioned earlier, he has the authority to move forward with it, but he has to learn how to pay for it. he needs to go through the appropriations pros. and then he has to deal with potential environmental lawsuits along the border private property lawsuits as the wall would go through private property and native to the land in arizona as well. so a lot of hurdles. some people predict that even if tour go that route, there will
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not be construction started until his second term. >> details. which didn't come up in the campaign. if donald trump is that unorthodoxed part of the deal president, can go to chooinl, can only donald trump get immigration reform done? barack obama wanted it, couldn't get it. could donald trump send up his proposal that includes a wall, that includes a touchback program and could he send up his proposal and then, voila calls it something else and say, i troyed. >> possible. he would have to concede a lot of things. the wall would never pass the senate. and then he'd have to drop whole other sending people back to their country and come back. democrats want a pathway to citizenship. he would have to concede a lot. to maggie's point, if he were to do that, he was going to upset the same people that elected him. that could be a big problem. >> as we're going to do that, chief of staff announcement
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perhaps today, more likely tomorrow. you learn a lot from that. who is the gate keep to donald trump. let's put up the two leading candidates. believe anything you hear when you see it, there are competing opinions. in every transition, everybody's competing for jobs, left, reince priebus, he's the chairman of the republican national committee, highways washington nerds and the tea party folks throughout, the trump people say god no, don't do that. but he's a counterbalance to the trump and relationship with congress. steve bannon who is the breitbart executive to left breitbart news service, he's an outsider, it's a loyalty question. his new site has pushed some provocati provocative, racist, nationalists positions, that if it's between those two men, that choice would tell you a lot about the tone early days of donald trump. >> it wouldn't necessarily. to your point of more so or
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different with a trump administration. if it is reince priebus, steve bannon is still going to have a job with the administration. he'll be a senior advisor or whatever title he has. >> we will have the campaign. >> right. again, who knows what he will be like as president. we have said that repeatedly, if history is any indication as was the case in this campaign, as is the case in this business. it's not a team of rivals. it's like a team of rifle gangs. there's incredible enhanced competition between people. and he tends to create different power centers even with bannon in charge, no one knows who's signing off on things. no one knows who is actually running things. i don't know it'll tell what you say you would normally have. >> one of the things you've learned is that titles don't mean a lot to trump. people that we think oh that means we do x. they didn't necessary deploy x. i think maggie's, right, he's
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going to need to balance the fears of the insiders with the desires of the outsiders and he'll be able to pop late the white house with people who represent both. then it's a question of what donald trump decides. >> volunteer, go back, court white house. >> one thing there's no doubt, he does listen to steve bannon, he is an authority figure in trump's life. and he represents but reince priebus, but does he listen to him as much? >> the one thing i would say is funny, and i completely agree with you. i think bannon was able to implement a lot of things that was put new place even prior to what the shake-up where bannon and kellyanne came in. manafort because they did not have chemistry couldn't get it done. and bannon was a good force on the candidate in particular. even bannon can't get him to do certain things. and the reputation that bannon has is a constant bomb thrower,
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everything was not true. so among other things, on the way to the gettysburg speech which was the grievance speech out. he led off who sued the women of sexual assault and harassment. bannon, every single top advisor, kellyanne conway, even giuliani, including steve bannon urged him, please don't do this. and he insisted. to dan's point. it's ultimately going to be what the president wants. >> to that point. we do have a president who said he would sue the women that accused him. that was a 59-year-old donald trump bragging about groping women. some of them have grievances with, socialists, you know, different ways to look at this. there are people out there age ri, anxious, frightened -- does he have to deal with that in this transition period? >> i think he does. i think he's going to get more
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pressure to do it. i think you've noilsed that when he put out that tweet last week, criticizing the protesters and the next morning saying well, he understands what they're talking about. walking that back and recognition that he has to say something. i think there's going to be more and more pressure on him. because he does have to unite the country. there's a poll out, washington post abc poll this morning saying a third of people who voted against him do not believe he's a legitimate president. so that is something that he's going to have to overcome. especially losing the popular vote and he has to they present himself in a more, in a light that could bring some people to his side. >> he's got children who think of him as this evil action figure. people are terrified of him. it's more than just disliking him. it's true fear. >> and it's real. as i was looking down my phone, my child was texting that he had a dream of trump and his school and voting on wall. this is a permeating down in a
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way i don't remember past elections doing so with kids. there's a legitimate concern. the problem for strump that he hears any criticism as some kind of opposition. and it all gets lumped into the same headline. and i think that's going to be difficult for him. >> opportunity if he seizes it and if he shoves it away, you have a respect issue. >> you can't erase what we've been through overnight. and part of that depends on what donald trump does, part depends on how democrats respond, part depends on how the country views him. but you know, we been through this traumatic, traumatic experience. and as maggie said, it's affected a lot of people in a very personal way. and they are nervous at this point. some people are very hopeful that donald trump can actually do something, you know, in the senses he put it, drain the swamp. he has a lot to take in and think about how he handles that. >> and one other point watching that video that you showed earlier with the meeting of the
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president last week and president-elect, i've heard that trump was overwhelmed by that meeting essentially. the magnitude of what he is now in charge of. i think it -- for a lot of people it doesn't hit them until they become president, i think that trump is coming boo this with a different deficit and knowledge than a lot of people do. he's coming to grips with this and that i think is going to be a personal, mental transition in a way this it might not be. >> he also still has the self-confidence to say, nobody said i would by the president. nobody said i would be the nominee, and i am, and therefore, i've got -- >> that's why it's so critical. team of advisors that he child abuses, particularly for this president because as we were talking about earlier, i mean, that's what's going to shape what donald trump does and says and the positions he takes. he is a blank slate. >> i could see him wanting to embrace the role of comforter and chief. he has long said, i want this
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campaign to be about love. let's love each other, let's take care of each other. i want this to be about everyone. he uses that kind of language. and so if if he can be influenced to say, you know, help everyone who's terrified of what could happen and has tried to tampa that down. >> i'm skeptical of that, i'm sorry, i don't mean to be a negative nay sayer here. he has a lot to overcome. while he would say, you know, i wanted this to be about love and there's love in this room, he'd be punching people with the other fist. this is something to bear in mind. >> that's the challenge. the temperament. what they do in the early days, setting the agendas, working with democrats, push them way. a lot more to discuss. trump cracked and crumbled the blue wall and how democrats see a future without an obama or clinton dominating the party. please, take our quiz this sunday morning. how many times has the candidate won the popular vote but lost the election? vote at cnn.com/vote. ♪spread a little love today ♪spread a little love my way ♪spread a little somethin to remember♪ philadelphia cream cheese,
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welcome back. there is no one reason why this happened. why this map, drup's america changed so much from this map. president obama's america. anyone who tells you there's one reason is winging it. number of different things happened and this will be debated for years. let's look at a few things. you made that point, pennsylvania red, machine red, wisconsin, red, not since the 1980s and the 19 50u7 have those states voted republican for president. iowa the state that launched the switch. ohio, traditional swing state went back to the republicans daz florida. look here. this is donald trump's victory. that's the obama victory. just four years ago. and four years before that as well. he added indiana. so this part of the country especially shifting to the republicans. now why did that happen? let's take a look at michigan. for one reason, donald trump without a doubt had blue collar appeal.
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it was the home of reagan democrats. not listening or voting for democrats. dropped down here to milwaukee. lots of blue collar appeal in the rural areas. she's getting nearly 66, 67% of the vote. the problem there was the map. just look at this. the democratic vote in milwaukee, down, 39,000 from 2012. hillary clinton could have carried both states. the percentage of the african american population in particular dropped. that's a reason, one of the
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reasons donald trump president. i want to close by looking at this map. this is the presidential election by county. more than 4,000 counties in the united states of america. look how red that is. now democrats get offended when you say this is a center right country because the democrat centers on the east and west coast. look up here. stay inside the circle here. this is 2016, that's 2012. that's 2008. this is the heartland of america. see all that fwlu 2008. goes red in 2012, it goes more red in 2016. the democrats have a problem in the heartland. it was just their candidate or does the party have a pig structure? that's the debate that's starting to begin, hillary clinton fading telling democrats fight on. >> you should never, ever regret fighting for that. you know, scripture tells us, let us not grow weary in doing the good for in do season we shall reap if we do not lose
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heart. so my friends, let us have faith in each other. let us not grow weary. let us not lose heart. for there are more seasons to come and there is more work to do. >> well, and in a moment to that. how big of a deal it is that the clintons are fading. they've been such a presence of the party. i want to come back to just tuesday night again. look at an election, and it's easy in the days after an election to overreact. this is what happened, it changed america forever, but it is a big deal. that the republicans across -- especially the heartland cracked so the-called blue wall in pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, states that hadn't voted forever. is it just hillary clinton or do the democrats have a problem with white working class voters? >> the democratic party has a problem with white working working class voters and i don't know what the difference is. that map is staggering. and it really is a city versus not a city issue in a lot of ways and the city vote as you said dwb not turn out for her.
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her husband who was supposed to be, you know, the thing of the past, and the election map that couldn't be won anymore for a democrat had urged the campaign over and over again, please focus more on white working class voters and there probaby could have been more to have been done. that i think it was pretty clear in 2013, i think the -- there were a lot of reasons hillary clinton lost. and it's a couple of tens of thousands of votes in like three states and it goes the other way and she is the president. but i think one of the ways in which the die the cast in 2013 when she was giving the paid speeches. i remember at the time, that was the year of bill de blasio's election. it became clear that those were going to linger and were questionable choices. to the point where i wasn't sure she was running. one other point, late last year, there was a poll, i think it was a "wall street journal" poll that showed for the first time
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ever in their polling, the majority of candidates who they -- i think it was eight different candidates who they polled as nominees. everyone else was underwater and it was about the mood of the country. it was not about the candidates. people are very, very angry and clinton didn't address it. >> message and tactics. tactics about where to spend your time -- >> absolutely. >> and the key point in the campaign. how do you ignore wisconsin? >> it wasn't just -- >> arrogance, arrogance is how you explain wisconsin. >> yes. that's exactly the point. she could have gone and campaigned there. more importantly, no tv -- i mean very little tv ads. donald trump, the heart of the campaign, the last stretch was out spending her ten to one on tv. and that is so significant. and that helped also ron johnson, the senator win reelection thereby in a stunning fashion. a lot was not just a message misstep. >> if you ask clinton, the problem was fbi director comey.
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>> right. >> and there's no question, no question the fbi had an impact number one, she hadn't set up the e-mail private server against the advice of the president of the united states, comey could not have interfered. there's no question, is it one thing, is it two things, three things, but to the point about the democratic party, let's go back if there is one reason, barbara bush was right. barbara bush said we have to have another clinton or bush. the country to your point about change, the country didn't want that. they wanted something different. >> the country did want something different. there are a couple of things that are striking. one is, you know, we talk ld all year about are we in the process of drawing a new map? i mean one in which the republicans would be stronger in the upper northwest. where it's much more predominantly white, more working class, older voters. versus the new map, arizona, georgia, we talk about those states. a sense of donald trump got to that new map faster than hillary clinton could get to her new
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map. and so the inbalance in the electoral college is what we've seen. the second is the clinton campaign came to see it election as college versus non-college. and they very much hung their hats on the idea that she was going to do extraordinarily well with white college-educated voters. she did well with them, but not as well as she needed to. >> let's look at the vote totals. it's easy to overread or underread. it's something democrats will do. now donald trump says he has a movement. look at the republican party vote totals in the last three presidential elections. the numbers are small. donald trump got more votes than john mccain. we're still counting. likely to go up. but donald trump is short of -- just short of where morm was, the choker and loser in 2012. and he's adjust little ahead of john mccain. this was not an overwhelming new republican vote that turned out. as mitch mcconnell told reporters the other day, trump has to not overread his election.
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clinton, five million short of barack obama. 2012. six million shorts, six-plus short. the final map still coming in from california. so democrats did not vote or some switched to trump. but the republican numbers -- the theory some people advocated, some talked about millions of people hiding in the hills to rush out and vote for donald trump. that didn't happen. some people just stayed home. >> that's true, but keep in mind, donald trump played santa claus delight at the end. do you remember that? he was going into the swing states and being very specific. there is a big picture here and, you know, the whiter rural voters, he was playing to the localities. he was going into philadelphia and saying, i'll bring back, get the navy ships. saying that in virginia beach. he was saying in florida, we'll build the coastal expressway. in michigan, i'll bring cars back. he was dropping goodies around right at that -- >> being a traditional politician, promising things. >> and it works. enthusiasm, yeah, we talked about hillary clinton was real.
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i mean, we learned that at end of the day. the vote totals bailed that out and the fact that he could not bring the key constituencies in michigan and wisconsin and philadelphia and namely african american voters who were so critical to president obama and large part, you have to do with the fact that this was not enthusiasm behind her candidacy. she was seen as part of the problem. she could not get around that. >> there was a very rereeling moment last year. and it was a harbinger of what was to come. she had an encounter backstage at a rally in new hampshire. and there was a meeting that the activist recorded and released the video of. it was very clear, she was facing a real divisional divide who did not see her as sort of this 199:figure of change and know about work she'd done in the '60s, in her mind, i have this long record, how can you question that on defense work and civil rights? and that never tenlded to that
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in the way they needed to. and it might not have mattered. and the number of millennial voters who did sport bernie sanders and hadn't made up their mind but were so turned off by everything that happened. we didn't mention wlaex. that i think had an impact. >> to that point, the democratic pollster who worked closely with bill clinton back in the day. james helped clinton get elected on the economy, advice i think hillary clinton could have taken well. they wrote a memo on friday. it should not be ignored that some of the reason for trump's upset is malicious interference and their allies at wikileaks as well as reckless politics by the fbi. battling back forced clinton to take her foot off the pedal. there's a long list of reasons, but did a foreign government meddle in our flexion a way that could have proven decisive? >> well the intelligence agencies clearly say, yes, at least on the first part of that, they don't sap that was the cause of what happened in the election, but clearly that the russians, russian hacking and then wikileaks releases had an
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impact on people's perceptions. as we describe it, this drip, drip, drip, drip, i mean the day that those wikileaks e-mails started to drochs the same day that the access hollywood video. and that overwhelming everything far time. as we lrned, nothing lasts very long. access hollywood happened, it was white hot, it looked like it might destroy trump's chances and yet it was wikileaks that was there all the way to the end with something new. psome new nugget. something new that the press was writing about. >> and there's no doubt that the comey letter blunted her in the campaign and forced her to change her message on the final days to be on the defensive and run this scorched earth campaign against donald trump make him lookless popular. and against james comey rather than end the campaign in a very positive message, but they were hoping to exnarnld campaign into red states. remember, at that time, they were going into arizona. michelle obama in there, they
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wanted to flip these red states. worry about the blue states. that changed a big part of the campaign. may not be the reason why she lost, but it hurt her. >> there's another aspect this. they put so much on the idea of disqualifying donald trump. declaring him unfit and driving that point home. 60% of the people according to to the exit poll on tuesday said he was unqualified to be president, and he's president-elect. >> a lot still voted for him. she didn't qualify herself. and i think on economics, she was urged a couple years ago when she was giving the paid speeches. he was urged by a common democrat, disappear, stop giving speeches, tell your husband, separate yourself from the foundation good evening bring a book on middle class economics and come back and campaign on if you have a job, i'll get you a raise, don't have a job, i'll get you the job. that's part of my resume, but focus on the economy which never got -- if you can go to the clinton campaign website to be fair, if you're a progressive, every issue you want, there's your position paper, but from the candidate. benghazi was going to be for the
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little guy. donald trump was going to fight for the change of the little guy. >> what was yours. >> one thing that threw her off was bernie sanders. when you look in twragt when she came back as a candidate after barack obama had won that string of primaries and caucuses and in a sense put himself in the driver's seat. she came back as a strong working class candidate. and she won ohio and she won pennsylvania and, you know, various other states. she couldn't quite be that candidate this time because bernie sanders got there first and in a bigger, more robust way. it forced her to be the kind of half way working class candidate rather than full-throated economic populist. >> some of the private pollings showed how deept sense of betrayal was about the economy. and trump really capitalized on that and it opened up a window for him from philadelphia, up to detroit to des moines. >> one of the things that a democratic pollster said to me, many, many months ago, there was
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concern that the indicator she was never leading on, i think she did towards the end, but for the long time in a campaign, who would lead. it's not thooechb he's saying anything that's particularly implementable or coherent or whatever, but he kept saying the words jobs and economy over and over and over again, and she wasn't doing that. dpeem hear -- >> every speech he said we're going to bring your jobs back. every single speech. >> it's one of the big challenges out the box for donald trump. president obama's won and infrastructure bank for all eight years. and hasn't been able to get it. donald trump, listen to him here. donald trump right after the election, you know, you're the new president-elect, you're sending a message to the country. donald trump talk abouts a democratic priority. >> we are going to fix ourl inner cities m and rebuild our highways, bridges, tunnels, airports, schools, hospitals. we're going to rebuild our
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infrastructure. which will become, by the way, second to none. and we will put millions of our people to work as we rebuild it. >> that could be bernie sanders or elizabeth warren saying we're going to do this. >> we don't know exactly what he's talking about, but if -- >> duo. >> exactly. but you know, if he were to come out and push that bill and spend a lot of noun build roads and bridges, he would have a partner in chuck schumer, nancy pelosi, and it would be ut. republicans on the defensive. i mean, i think fwl so fascinating to see how much does he do administratively to go after the things that obama's done, like repeal against immigration, and environmental and administrative level and how much is due legislatively to work democrats. >> mike pence, republican governor down the hall now running the transition -- most republicans governors would love that money. >> i want to go back to the
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point that was made in terms of the the infrastructure and democrats. i've heard from a trump adviser that they are looking at doing an infrastructure bill within the first greer possible. it is going to be a priority. again, we'll see. that's what we've heard. the person to keep an eye on right now is chuck schumer. he may not be majority leader, but he is the senator, you know, member of congress who trump knows best and he's the democrat who criticized trump the least during this campaign. and that means he could be an effective play per. >> let's put it up, the democrats have a leadership issue right now. the congressional leaders will be chuck schumer who has the best relationship. republican or democrat, visit their history, i think donald trump was a chuck schumer donor. i think donald trump actually gave money to nancy pelosi once if you look back -- >> and wrote her a congratulations letter when she became -- >> there's the two democratic leaders and they run the congressional part. the donald trump midterms lab disaster and therefore i'll get to be speaker again.
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she thought that a couple times throughout the obama midterm again too. what happens to this party? who leads the democrats. they're the criminal leaders and nancy pelosi's a great fundraiser. great value because she's a great fundraiser. who speaks for the democrats. >> there's such a divide within the democratic party right now. we have leaders in congress, late 60s and 70s, there's going to be a lot of push for a younger blood, more progressive members to step forward. we'll see how the dnc chair fight plays out peep potion themselves for 2020. and the larger message they're debating over is what we're pointing outs. do we go after the white working class voters and economic populist appeal and moderate in some ways or go back to the bernie sanders wing of the party? the elizabeth warren wing that has clearly much more energy right now. and that is the real strug. . >> who's the state senator barack obama? because the democratic bench in 2003 and 2004, who's the state
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senator, the governor and be the new face? the democratic bench has decimated. these are just the senate numbers. when president obama came to power, down to 48 now. 257, now 193 now. te republicans have a majority of the governship. they've picked up nearly 1,000. nearly 1,000 state legislative seats during the obama presidency. the republicans have a bench. their problem is going to be the competition and the young ambitious people trying to rise up. who's for the democrats? >> right down in the swing states, twonl swing states that have democratic-controlled houses and that's in colorado and nevada. most are controlled by republicans. this trickles down, not just the congressional level, there's a shortage of democratic leadership right now. and i think whether that sticks is what they can deliver. if this congress delivers on jobs and health care and on immigration reform. it could sit. >> i think watching the fight for nancy going is going to be an early indicator of the democratic national committee.
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you have a lot of people getting behind congressman keith ellison. he comes from the working class district, but is also the first muslim congressman. he can sort of unite a bunch of different ways. then howard dean trying to throw his hat back in the ring. opposed very strongly. >> arch rival of bernie sanders. >> absolutely, but that i think you have sort of different contour's shaping up. that'll be an early indicator and you'll have a couple of senators who didn't run in 2016 and the democratic primary because they were sort of boxed out by hillary clinton. people like kirsten jill brand, trying to position themselves. >> amazing where obama will lee the soon, and giant question mark who leads. sneak peek next into the reporter's notebooks, how to keep the son-in-law in the inner circle without violating nepotism rules and how many times has the candidate only
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one last time around the inside politics table, ask the reporter toes share a nugget from their notebook. get you out ahead of big political news. >> among of the new things we'll see under president trump, we have a president who might live part-time in new york, willing to give a plan. his son-in-law jared kushner is looking at ways had ke be described as essentially a volunteer working for the administration, prohibitions against what relatives of a president can do in terms of an actual job. jared kushner is the person who co-ran the campaign most of the time through different it rations. he is the most important person who has the income president's ear. that'll continue to be the case
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regardless of who holds the actual chief of staff title. >> thousand they figure that out. >> it happens. >> it happens, dan. >> john, my notebook will have a look back at how we got a lot of things wrong. and i think one of the lessons of this campaign is the degree to which we all have come to rely on data which turned out not to be specifically accurate. whether it was polling, predictive modelling, almost anything you looked gnat one way or another broke down to the end. we have to re-examine a lot of the ways in which we go about the business of doing journalism. >> i learned from the model a long time ago, talking to people and not looking at the numbers. people can't put anger into a computer. >> five red states can hold the key to donald trump's presidency. those are five democrats up for reelection in 2018 in states like indiana, north dakota, montana, west virginia and missouri. they could form a bipartisan coalition, get clearer to that of 0 vote threshold to pass
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legislation and overcome a filibuster and of course they face challenges of their own reelection. they could have a bigger republican majority. you're already seeing a sign of that on friday when harry reid put out a blistering statement attacking donald trump immediately afterwards, joe manchin, up for reelection in 2018, in a state that trump won overwhelmingly reads attack in embarrassment to the senate. it's a sign of potentially things to come. >> keep an eye on that coalition building, jennifer. >> business leaders will be watching to see how transparent and thorough the trump organization is in separating donald trump from his business holdings. a blind trust is not likely the answer that would require him o toly kwi date his stuff, and that's not going to happen. . they transfer the management over and not have an independent manager, the conflicts of interest are exactly the same, but i mean, there's nothing that
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says that a president cannot control a business while he's in office. but people will be watching to see if he's going to signal that he wants to do what's best for the country and not for his personal fortunes? >> from day one, democrats, and i think republican critics in congress going to see if there's an opening to question the ethics. it's a bit related to what dan just said. one of the big campaign debates was whether there were more trump supporters or the conversations. some people didn't to want admit they were supporting the republican nominee. the survey suggests the answer is yes. this question was asked of respondents who said they voted for trump on tuesday. during the campaign, you were reluctant to say you were supporting donald trump. more than a third, 36% of trump voters answered yes, they were reluctant. the public opinion strategy survey said women were more reluctant to say so. 68% of younger women reported
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