campaign-style thank you rally for voters in ohio. >> while this is happening, the president-elect is narrowing the field for key cabinet posts. he's got 50 days now until the inauguration and so many people now watching who will get the secretary of state, and defense nominations. let's begin this hour with cnn's jessica snyder live outside trump tower in new york. >> good morning, john. you know those top posts still generating a lot of intrigue for sure. but today the focus is shifting a bit to a victory tour of sorts. donald trump will be setting aside those job intervurs and meetings to get back into those crowds who helped him secure an election victory. president-elect donald trump heading back into campaign mode. embarking on a thank you tour in swing state that won him the white house. trump will hold a rally in cincinnati tonight, after taking a victory lap in indiana, celebrating a deal with carrier to keep at least 1,000 manufacturing jobs from moving

to mexico. carrier offering limited details on terms of the deal, receiving unspecified incentives from the state, run by trump's vp mike pence. this as trump's cabinet continues to take shape. the search for secretary of state narrowed down to these four candidates. close trump adviser newt gingrich hammering mitt romney after his high-profile dinner with trump tuesday night. >> you have never, ever in your career seen a serious adults who's wealthy, independent, has been a presidential nominee, suck up at the rate that mitt romney is sucking up. >> reporter: trump also facing blistering criticism from the left over his newly appointed economic team. elizabeth warren slamming trump's pick for treasury secretary, former goldman sachs executive steve mnuchin, who headed a firm that made big money off the 2008 housing crisis. >> he promised when he was running for president that he would break the connection between wall street and this congress. and then what does he do?

he turns around and picks a guy who had actually been one of the people who helped do all of those lousy mortgages. >> reporter: the president-elect's team defending the pick. >> take someone like steve who understands how the system works and how can we go make it more fair and help american workers to get in there and actually change it. >> reporter: capitol hill also reacting to trump's announcement with no details as of yet, that he will separate himself from his billion dollar empire. >> you've got to be very, very careful on conflicts of interest. sooner or later this had to happen. and i suspect he's probably not very happy about it. but it's one of those things that had to be done. >> reporter: the office of government ethics sending out an unusual series of tweets applauding trump's pledge and encouraging the president-elect to divert his assets, a commitment that trump has not yet made. and when donald trump hits the road a little bit later today his transition team telling us we won't be hearing any more announcements as it pertains to

cabinet posts or personnel positions. however we are learning that a short list has emerged for director of national intelligence. the name on that list include senior indiana senator done coates as well as former homeland security adviser fran townsend, as well as admiral mike rogers. and another name that is surfacing, sarah palin. sources telling us that she has thrown her name out there for secretary of veterans affairs, telling donald trump that she would like to work with his administration in some capacity over the next four years. alisyn? >> these announcements will be very interesting over the next couple of days. jessica, thank you very much. let's discuss all of this with arkansas senator tom cotton. he serves on the senate armed services committee and senate intelligence committee. he also served in both iraq and afghanistan. senator, thanks so much for being here. >> good morning, alisyn. good to be on with you. >> let's talk about president-elect trump's big announcement yesterday, and that is that he plans to step away from his business enterprise, hand over the reins to what

sounds like his children, and he'll be making more of an announcement and more details on that on -- in about two weeks from now. how do you feel about his children taking the reins of enterprise that has business -- businesses and holdings, and developments, in something like 25 countries around the world? >> well, president-elect trump has said throughout the campaign that if he were elected he would focus 100% on the business of the american people, and that's a promise that yesterday he committed to make good on. we've never had the president with the kind of vast business dealings that donald trump's had. you know, running hotel, running a high rise is not like owning stock. you can't just divest of it quickly. we're only three weeks away from the election right now. donald trump is still working through the details and i look forward, as do most americans i'm sure to hearing more about them in a couple weeks as he said he would announce. >> does it --

>> any concern senator that his children will have the reins? i mean is that the kind of firewall that you would be comfortable with? >> well, again, this is a more complicated matter than what we've seen in the past with past presidents, or senior officials. just simply selling stock or putting stock into a blind trust. you can't really hide a building, or you know, hide who is going into a building. but, i trust donald trump's word that he's going to put the business of the american people first and he'll be revealing more about all these details in two weeks and we can all judge them then. >> you were a vocal critic of hillary clinton. and of hillary clinton's potential entanglements if she were to become president with say the clinton foundation, clinton global initiative. how is this different? >> well, the clinton foundation had a fairly well documented record of receiving contributions or bill clinton and hillary clinton receiving speech fees from people with key interest in front of the federal government. running a hotel is very different. people stay in trump hotels all

around the world. >> mm-hmm. >> to include here in the united states, that that's not paying someone $750,000 to give a speech in a foreign government when you're trying to influence the state department. but again, donald trump has made a commitment to focus on the business of the american people. he's going to be revealing more details about exactly what he plans to do with his business organization in a couple weeks, it's a highly complex matter. it's not like selling a share of stock. i just think that we should all wait and hear more of the details in a couple of weeks. >> there are a couple of signs so far, are you comfortable for instance with ivanka trump, the president-elect's daughter, sitting in on meetings with the prime minister of japan abe? >> well, the president can surround himself with the advisers he chooses. and it's not uncommon for presidents to lean on the advice of their family members. obviously hillary clinton was a very influential adviser to bill clinton during his tenure in office. so i'm confident, though, that donald trump is going to be the man in charge of his administration so i know everybody is very excited about all the cabinet picks and the

rumor about cabinet picks and who's in on what meetings but ultimately the american people elected donald trump and whoever donald trump has in his cabinet or is advising him or sitting in on meetings, donald trump is going to be the one making decisions for the american people. >> and just so i'm clear, you would have been -- you would have felt the same way if it were chelsea clinton sitting in on meetings with hillary clinton and a world leader? >> well, alisyn, i'm not going to go into hypotheticals about what would have happened had hillary clinton -- >> well you know how you would have felt, right? i mean how would you have felt? that's not a hypothetical? >> it actually is a hypothetical, alisyn. but, again, there's a difference between the clinton foundation, which was purported to be a charitable organization, that was receiving massive contributions from people who had dealings with the state department when hillary clinton had signed the exact kind of memorandum of understanding at the beginning of her tenure at the state department, and then violated that memorandum of understanding. i think we should give donald trump at least a chance to announce exactly what he's going to do with his business

organization, before we start jumping to conclusions about the effectiveness of that decision. >> let's talk about the final four, at least as far as we know it publicly who are under consideration for secretary of state. are you in the mitt romney, or rudy giuliani camp? or for instance general petraeus? or senator corker? who would you vote for of these four? >> well, alisyn, i'm in the america camp and i support donald trump making the decision that he needs to make for himself, and for the american people, on his own time. look, i know all four of these gentlemen. they've all accomplished a lot for our country. ultimately, though, what matters is donald trump. he's the people -- he's the person the american people elected. his secretary of state just like every other member of his cabinet and his white house staff is going to be implementing donald trump's policies. so i think we should just give him the time that he needs to make the right decision for himself and for the american people. he's actually far ahead of historical precedent in

announcing his cabinet. >> yeah. >> and we still have 50 days until the inauguration. >> oh, yeah he's definitely far ahead. are you being vetted for secretary of defense? >> alisyn, again, on that position like every other position, we should give donald trump the time he needs to make these decisions. i've consulted with donald trump throughout the campaign, and since then, but i'm happy serving the people of arkansas in the senate, and i'm looking forward to working for them, and for working for our country to help make it great again as donald trump has said so many times. >> not a no. i can have a staring contest all day, senator. >> alisyn, we've got a baby coming in just a few days in my family. so that's taking most of my focus right now. i'm very happy to be welcoming christmas baby into the cotton family and very happy to be serving the people of arkansas in the senate, and i think we should all just give donald trump the time and space he needs to make these decisions

that he this that he needs to round out his cabinet and help do the job that he promised the american people. >> that is thrilling. congratulations on the impending baby arrival. and we'll look forward to seeing photos. >> thank you, alisyn. hopefully he'll take after his mother in appearances. >> thanks, senator, for being on "new day." >> bye-bye. >> john? >> protesters taking to the streets demanding answers in charlotte over the district attorney's decision not to charge the police officer who shot and killed keith lamont scott. cnn's nick valencia is live in charlotte for us this morning with more. good morning, nick. >> good morning, john. this is a decision that the scott family dreaded but that many in this community anticipated. the scott family says that they are still processing the news, and will continue to pursue justice for keith lamont scott. protesters taking to the streets of charlotte, some clashing with police during demonstrations

that remained mostly peaceful. authorities confirming that four arrests were made. the protests in response to a district attorney's decision not to charge officer brentley vinson in the september shooting death of keith lamont scott. >> it's a jufd shooting based on the totality of the circumstances. >> reporter: the d.a. confirming that scott did have a loaded weapon in his hand. >> mr. scott's gun a colt 380 semiautomatic was recovered at the scene. it had one round in the chamber. the safety was off and the gun was cocked. >> this contradicts what scott's family says happened, that he was holding a book inside the car, a claim now proven untrue. >> drop the gun! >> he doesn't have a gun. >> chief, chief, don't you do it! >> did you shoot him? >> reporter: scott's wife also heard on video telling officers that her husband has a traumatic brain injury. after police confronted him while searching for another person wanted on an outstanding warrant. >> when officers come he draws

the gun. he doesn't keep it in its holster. he doesn't put it on the floor. he draws the gun. he's told numerous times to drop the gun. he then gets out and doesn't turn to run away from officers. he turns towards them. >> reporter: scott's family attorney reacting to the d.a.'s decision. >> we still have real questions about the decisions that were made that day in terms of how they confronted keith. >> reporter: the shooting and this video of keith's daughter that went viral shortly after his death. >> the police just shot my daddy four times for being black. >> reporter: set off several days of violent protests that destroyed several downtown businesses. a stark contrast to last night. protesters peacefully demanding answers. police on the streets meeting and talking with those marching, hoping to build trust in the community. the district attorney went into great detail yesterday to show that scott was armed at the time of the shooting. they played surveillance video just minutes before the shooting scott was at a convenience store and showed that he had an ankle

holster. finally yesterday, scott's family attorney acknowledged that he did have a weapon. but said it is still not clear or distinctive in any of the videos shown that it was in his hand at the time of the fatal shooting. alisyn? >> okay, nick, thank you for all of that. we do have some breaking news now. we're just learning that sheriff's deputies say that the suspect who killed a tacoma, washington, police officer overnight is dead. that suspect had barricaded himself in a home, and then during the standoff used an 8-year-old boy and an 11-year-old girl as shields before police shot and killed him. those children are safe at this hour. the officer killed was 45 years old and had served for 17 years. lawmakers in the house passed a multibillion dollar health innovation bill to strengthen mental health services. the bill includes research funds for the fight against alzheimer's, cancer, traumatic brain injury and opioid diction. paul ryan calls this a game changer. this measure which is bipartisan

and welcome now mads to the senate. here's a big update on a story. a deal has been reached for the defense department to stop trying to recoup about $20 million in those re-enlistment bonuses that were ee reason youpsly paid out to thousands of soldiers who served in iraq and afghanistan. only soldiers who knew they were ineligible will have to repay them. and the burden of tracking down those soldiers falls to the government. the deal is part of a larger defense bill that is due to be voted on in the coming days. all right. most of donald trump's cabinet picks do have something in common. money. lots of it. so what does this say about his administration's plans? we're going to get perspective from an independent senator. stay with us.

president-elect donald trump has picked his economic team and it includes a lot of wall street veterans. so is he getting too cozy with wall street? this after being very, very critical of hillary clinton for her coziness with goldman sachs and the like during the campaign. joining us now senator angus king, an independent from maine. he is on the select committee for intelligence and armed services. >> john, good to be with you. >> i've heard you talk about the confirmation process in the past and you are generally of the mind that an executive should get to surround him or herself with the choices that he or she makes. so you're generally supportive of the idea of him getting to

make his picks. but let's talk about the finance team right now. steve murphen, the pick to be treasury secretary, worked at goldman sachs. you know i'm old enough to remember when donald trump was very critical of hillary clinton's close relationship with wall street and goldman sachs during the campaign. is that a reason of concern for you? >> well, i don't know if it rises to the level of concern as far as confirmation is concerned. i'm going to wait until the hearings and see what the testimony is. what the background is. but it does strike me as an odd way of draining the swamp to bring in a new alligator from wall street. i, you know, i was critical of barack obama, frankly, eight years ago, because of the connections to wall street, in the top of his economic team. i think -- i think you need somebody with financial and fiscal experience but also some experience with main street and with ordinary americans and with businesses, not at the height of the financial center in wall

street. so, like i say, i'm going to listen to the testimony, i'm not reflexively opposed to mr. mnuchin but i do think there's an irony here of bringing in someone with a history with goldman sachs into the top of economic policy, as you say, particularly because of all the criticism of secretary clinton. but i think there's a larger issue here of who should be in charge of the american economy and i would rather see somebody with broader experience on main street than wall street. >> well i'm not sure what that means. and i've heard the line, the alligator in the swamp line. you're not a democrat. i have heard it from a lot of democrats though the last week. >> i thought it was my line. i thought i made it up. i think they stole it from me. >> you said it differently with different inflection. but i have heard it before this week and are you suggesting that you bring in someone with no finance experience? didn't hank paulson who worked at goldman sachs help save the entire financial system? >> no, i'm not saying that at all. and i think i said that in my statement that you need financial and fiscal experience,

but does that necessarily mean you have to have been at goldman sachs or the pinnacle of one of the wall street -- >> you're -- >> -- let's look at. let's look for other experience out in the country -- >> how about wilbur ross? >> i'm sore very? >> secretary of commerce who's got a lot of experience you know buying and selling companies. does he have the kind of experience you like? >> well, i think commerce is an entirely different position. that's where you're representing the country working on trade and those kinds of things, and you know that has often been someone of some wealth and experience in those things. i'm not -- i think that -- secretary of the treasury i think is very, very qualitatively different than secretary of commerce in terms of their influence over economic policy. >> it's a good point. it's an important point. we do understand that president-elect trump did get a classified intelligence briefing, one of the briefings he's privy to. we believe that's the third time

since his election he has received such briefings. he hasn't done it every day like the vice president-elect has. what's your take on the information we know that he's getting at this point? do you believe it's enough? and specifically about russia. do you think that either the president-elect or the current president of the united states are taking seriously enough the reports and the various intelligence that is out there about what role russia may have had or what influence they may have tried to assert in the u.s. election? >> well, john, i think the story of russia's involvement in this election is the biggest story of the decade, frankly, and i think it's going to only grow. not from a partisan point of view. the election's over. the results are in. president-elect trump is going to take office on january 20th. what worries me is the pattern of russian involvement. i happened to be in eastern europe last spring with a group from the intelligence committee in the ukraine and poland, the officials there took us aside, and warned us of this. they said this is what russia does. they mess around with your elections. they put in fake information.

they hack nool your systems, and they're trying to sow discord and influence elections. and we talked about it. we understood it. we didn't think it was going to happen here. it has happened here. the director of national intelligence on october 7th issued an extraordinary press release, one of the first i've ever seen as a member of the intelligence committee that was so straightforward that said the intelligence community with confidence believes that russia hacked into our political system. regardless of whose said they were on or whether they were on anybody's side this is really dangerous, it's an ongoing problem, and i think it's something we're going to have to really, really dig into -- >> so what do you do about it? you seem -- obviously you're incensed that it happened but you say you know bygones are bygones or you know donald trump was elected. but so what if they did it? what do you do about it now? >> well i think what we do about it now is get to the bottom of it, find out exactly what went on, but i think it's important that this not come across as a

partisan, you know, democrats trying to discredit the election. i think -- i think, you know, the election is over. but that doesn't mean we can't learn from what happened, understand what happened and figure out how to prevent it in the future. because this isn't the only time. i'm worried about elections two years from now or four years from now because this is their pattern and has been for some time in europe and particularly in eastern europe and it's -- this is a huge issue that i think we really have to confront in a serious way and use what happened this past fall as an object lessen to guide our future decisions. >> senator angus king of maine, thanks so much. really appreciate your insight on that and many other issues. alisyn? >> okay, john. a family tragedy in the tennessee wildfires. a beloved grandmother has been killed by the fire. her family is with us next on what happened. ♪ (woman) one year ago today mom started searching for her words.

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at least seven people have lost their lives in these raging wildfires in eastern tennessee, which officials believe are

human caused. one of the people who died was alice hagler, a grandmother who was last heard from on monday. alice' son lyle and her daughter-in-law rachel join us now. lyle and rachel, gosh, we're so, so sorry for your loss. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> we appreciate that. >> rachel, i know that you spoke to your mother-in-law, alice, on monday night, as the flames were getting too close. what did she tell you? >> well, i actually spoke to her a little bit before the fire actually got to her. when i spoke to her, she was unsettled, and she was scared. she said she felt like her house was going to blow down because of the winds, and she said there was ash in the air. but we had recently gone to north carolina for vacation, and we had experienced similar conditions from the winds changing from the north carolina fire.

so, i believe that alice felt that she was okay, and she was just experiencing some strong winds, and i don't believe she knew at all that the fire was that close. >> hmm. lyle, i know that your mom also had a brief conversation with your brother james, where she also expressed her anxiety about this. do you know what she told him? >> yeah. about two hours from 6:30 to 8:30 things went from, you know, the winds picking up to the last phone call she made to my brother was the fact that she was really scared, frantic because the house was actually on fire at that point. and during that conversation my brother lost communication with her. we think cell towers went down, signal went bad, and that was the last -- that was the last we heard of her. >> gosh. i know that your family didn't know what happened after that. and we know that the waiting and

the not knowing is excruciating. did you hold out hope that she had made it to a shelter? >> we did. we held out a lot of hope. you know, in disasters like this, we're from savannah, so we just saw hurricane matthew come through and just devastate the area, as well. we know in the first 48 to 72 hours it's hard. shelters are trying to get organized. people are trying to get where they can be safe and start communicating, cell service is really bad. so we knew that there was a possibility that maybe a neighbor had grabbed her, had taken her to a shelter. we knew she didn't get around. she wasn't as mobile as she used to be. there may have been some confusion, so our hope was that, you know, maybe she'd be one of the ones that was found safe. in a safe place. and i think there's still hope for that now. you know, and our hope is that other people that are going through this have that hope, you know. they pulled three people off the mountain yesterday that were still alive, and that's an amazing thing. so i think you have to have that

kind of hope in a situation like this. >> absolutely. and then, of course, you got the de devastating news that she had been killed. we're looking at pick urs as you're speaking of alice, and with what i assume are grandchildren. can you tell us about your mom? >> yeah. she's a great lady. she loved those kids very much. those are our kids. sam and charlie. and, those were her pride and joy. she was one of the ladies that just loved people. she never met a stranger. she never found anybody she couldn't talk to that wasn't -- she wasn't willing to talk to. and she had a lot of love in her heart. she loved those kids. she loved my brother very much. my brother lived with my mom in the house that's now gone. everything my brother had is gone, as well. and so, you know, to lose someone like that, who loved us, loved our family very much, and then to have to go through something like this as well, you know, we ask for prayers for

him. ask for prayers for the people that are still trying to figure out how to put this thing all back together. it's a hard thing. it's a difficult thing. but yeah, she was an amazing woman who loved a lot. >> boy, those -- those kids of yours are awfully cute and they sure look like they love to be on her lap. what can we do for your brother, james? where will we go? >> that's what we're trying to figure out right now. that will be the next step. we got this news last night so we're going to support him as best we can. you know, this community here is pretty amazing the red cross has been fantastic. firefighters, first responders, sheriff's department, highway patrol. dispatch, i mean, dispatched workers that get calls from people like us and say hey, i'm missing my family, what do i do? they walk us through such a devastating time, and they've taken care of us really well. the faith community here in gatlinburg, pigeon forge, they're amazing.

so i know they're going to support what we need to do right now is pray for the people that are working hard to try to take care of everyone. stay positive and give them the encouragement, and the space they need to do their jobs. and they continue just to find ways to know that there's a story behind every person that is impacted by this. try to figure out what we can do to help. >> we just want to say thank you so much. the love that we have felt in this extremely dark time has really blown us away. and just thank you to everyone who, the media, and our family and friends, and everyone that's helped. it's really been -- it's been unreal. and we thank you for it. >> well, thank you both for sharing your pictures, and sharing your story of your mom with us. we really appreciate seeing her and we're praying for your family. thanks for being with us. >> thank you so much. >> thank you very much. what a strong, strong family.

all right they stood by donald trump through thick and thin during the campaign, now their candidate is the president-elect so how do they feel about his decisions so far? we will hear from trump supporters, that's next. "credit karma, why are you checking your credit score?" "you don't want to ride the 13l forever, do you?" "credit karma huh?" "yeah, it's free." "credit karma. give youself some credit."

so, during the course of the presidential campaign, we routinely checked in with some of donald trump's supporters to find out why they were so

passionate about the businessman and whether that passion ever wavered during various controversies. well, this week we circled back with several of them to see what they think as they plan the president-elect, where they get their news now, and whether they were surprised on election night. okay, show of hands, who was surprised on election night. none of you were surprised? though so many people in the country were surprised by donald trump's win. >> i had confidence in trump's ability from the very beginning. so i never doubted him. the entire time. >> paul, were you concerned when the polls sugd that he was not going to win? >> i knew he was going to win. because when you believe in somebody, and mr. trump always makes things happen. >> what signs have you seen that you think are good signs so far? >> i think all the people that i'm looking at, that trump has appointed or nominated have all been top of the class, number

one in their field, extremely talented, great leaders on their own. >> very funny to hear you say that. do you remember who you really did not like last time around? >> reince priebus. >> time to get rid of him. reince priebus, that's right. >> he is now the chief of staff. so reince priebus you all said he's got to go. time for him to go. how do you feel today? >> i think it's a very smart move. because now he keeps the republicans in check. he knows how to work with them. because he was the head of the gop. and now if they want to get elected again, they need to toe the line. >> so now you like reince priebus. >> i don't like him. but i think it's a good pick that mr. trump did. >> how do you all feel? do you know much about steve bannon? how do you feel about steve bannon? >> i like him. i don't know too much about him. i'm more of a general flynn fan. >> what do you like about flynn? >> i just feel that he will be an amazing leader, i love his

military background. i think he's strong. i think he will give president trump sound advice. when to move. when not to be too aggressive. when to be aggressive. i think he'll do that, and i think he'll be a strong asset. >> you know, he has said what are considered controversial things about muslims. he has said that he doesn't -- basically that he considered it a political ideology, not a religion. he had called it a cancer -- >> islam is a political ideology. it is a political ideology. it -- it definitely hides behind this notion of it being a religion. >> it's interesting to talk to you about this because remember we talked last time around about your feeling about some of your muslim coworkers, i believe. >> yes, yes. >> and you had a close relationship. are you concerned about general flynn's comments? >> i'm not. i feel that people do say stuff that maybe they regret at times,

and then they slept on it, and move forward, and i feel that maybe some of the stuff was taken out of context, or maybe he didn't exactly mean it. i'm in support of him, and i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. >> but you find the comments regrettable? meaning you hope that they were taken out of context. >> yes. >> on their own, they would bother you? >> yes, they would. they would, to be honest, they would. because i don't want people lumped together in a just one category based on their religion. >> how do you feel about the white nationalist movement? the alt-right? some neo-nazi salutes that we've seen? what are we to make of the -- those -- what feels like a groundswell of that with the steve bannon breitbart connection? >> i want to tell you something, that's been around forever. you know, if you keep reporting on it, it's going to grow like a cancer. if you forget about it, then it's probably going to go away. but the media has to hop on everything, and it's wrong. >> there have been protests --

>> i don't know if they know what they're protesting. >> -- what are they protesting? >> they vote. voting is a privilege in this country. and you need to be legal, not like california, where 3 million illegals voted. >> let's talk about that. >> i'm glad i brought that up, alisyn >> me, too. so where are you getting your information? >> from the media. >> what about the media? >> some of it from cnn, i believe. >> cnn said that 3 million illegal people voted -- >> well, it's come all across the media. all across, if cnn didn't do it then they were being smart this time. >> do you think that 3 million illegals voted? >> i believe in california that there were illegals that voted? >> how many? >> i don't, to tell you the truth nobody really knowles that number. >> but do you think three dozen or you think 3 million? >> i think there was a good amount. because the president told people that they could vote and it happened in nashua we caught some people and they said the president said i could vote, i'm here illegally. >> did you hear president obama

said that illegal people could vote? tell me, where. >> you could find it. google it. you could find it on facebook. >> all right. hold on. i don't want to waste any more time but anyway i see where it came from and it's -- fox business network deceptivelyate itted a clip of obama to argue that the president encouraged illegal immigrants to vote when he said nothing of the sort when you go back to the transcript. you as you sit here today think that millions of illegal people voted in this country and you believe that there was widespread voting abuse? >> i think there was in some states. >> in the millions of people? >> california allows it. >> they do not allow illegals -- you mean voter fraud, california allows? >> i believe there was voter fraud in this country. >> flag burning people should go to jail? >> absolutely. >> and lose their citizenship? >> community service. >> and you know what? and it's a sad thing -- >> no they shouldn't but they should get a ticket for starting a fire out in public. >> right but --

>> and need a permit for it. they should go get a permit. >> how about the illegals that are burning our flag and yet we're not arresting them and deporting them and they burn our flags. do you want to be in our country but you burn our flag because you don't like -- exactly. send them home. i can't wait for the wall to be built. >> what happens if the wall isn't built? if mr. trump doesn't build the wall then how do you feel? >> i think -- i believe he will build the wall. but he will make sure that we have enough border patrol out there to take care of this country. >> and there you have it. i mean, that is how they feel. they're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt right now and they believe that he is strong, but the specifics don't matter to some of his supporters, as much as they matter to the media. we've always heard that we in the media took him literally, not seriously. they took him seriously, not literally. and you see that. >> i think it's an incredibly wide berth that he has right now. people have been asking will his supporters abandon him if he does "x," "y" and "z" and i

think no, at least not yet. if he wants to pick mitt romney to be secretary of state despite what mitt romney said i don't see a huge number of people running in the other direction. >> no, no. i mean they trust mr. trump to make the right decision. they're giving him the benefit of the doubt right now. obviously he's not even in office yet. you heard the back and forth we had about where they get their news. they did say that they also watched cnn often to keep an eye on chris, i think. so that would be tomorrow. you will hear more about their thoughts on cnn they had many of them. what's your take on all of this? you can tweet us at "new day" or post your comment on facebook.com/newday. >> all right. self-help guru hoping to change his own life after three of his followers died in a sweat lodge. james arthur ray. you have heard of him. he is the subject of a new cnn film and he joins us next. >> but first, even for people trying to limit intake of pesticides, it's not always possible to buy organic food so

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james arthur ray is a self-help guru at the top of his game when tragedy struck back in 2009. three of his followers died in a

sweat lodge exercise at one of his retreats. 18 others were hospitalized. this is an audio recording of what he told them shortly before he went into the sweat lodge. this is featured in a new cnn film "enlightenments kwthsd. >> symbolically when you're going into a lodge you're going back into the womb. and symbolically, what you're going to do is to die. a propose the lodge with great respect. i've been anticipating it all day long because by about the second or third round i'm normally thinking why the hell am i being? it will be the most intense heat that you've ever experienced in your entire life. you will feel as if you're going to die. when you emerge, you will be a different person. >> they were sentenced to two years in prison. that happened five years ago after being found guilty of three counts of negligent homicide. now he's turning his life around. james arthur ray, he joins us now. thanks so much for being with us. >> thanks for having me.

it's a pleasure. >> since you were out of prison you haven't really been in public all that much. why did you agree to be part of this documentary? what part of your story do you want to tell? >> well, there's a couple things. first of all, i think there's a lot of people in this country, if you look at what happened in the last election, what's happening in our economy and business a lot of people are having difficult times. all of us who were involved in that tragic accident are having -- have had difficult times. you know, certainly i have as well as everybody else involved. and what my hope is, is that people who view this can say, hey, if he had the resilience to get through that maybe i can do it, as well. >> the families of the three folks who died, curvy brown, james shore, liz have said they don't feel you've taken adequate responsibility for their deaths. how do you feel about what happened that day? >> i have taken full and complete responsibility for what happened. i've done everything asked of me. i've paid restitution.

i've done the time. and you know, i think it's really important for me to communicate that james shore, liz newman and curvy brown were heroes. they're not victims. they really believed in something. and to me that's heroic and i hold that in high regard. i think it's disrespectful for them to be portrayed as victims because they really believed in what they were doing, and in life, as an entrepreneur, you've got to be willing to give everything you have. and it's dif cult. it's not easy. >> they died in a sweat lodge in your retreat and you say that was an act of sacrifice for them, that they gave everything they had? >> they obviously gave everything they had. none of us could have foreseen. there's a much bigger story here than what even told in the documentary. it was kind of glossed over in the coverage by media, it was not wanted to be heard by the

judge or the jury, and you know, i'll kind of leave it at that. >> but what is it? what are you reefrg to? i mean in other words they feel that you pushd them, beyond the limits of what was humanly possible and human capacity, and that you know you've never sort of taken responsibility that you pushed them toward that. >> i'll repeat again. i have taken full and complete responsibility. i've done everything that's been asked of me. and and yes i challenged them. yes i pushed them. i'm a tough coach yet they made a decision to do what they did. and certainly none of us could have foreseen what happened. i mean, i conceived of the activity. we all believed in it. >> but why couldn't you have conceived of somebody dying if their temperature around them, the tent that they were in was 200 dwrees? >> well there was no thermometer in the tent. so that's speculation. nobody really knows how hot it was. not even me. i mean, that was speculated in the courts.

but again, there's a lot bigger story. according to the doctor from harvard university who went through 4,000 pages of medical that caused the death.s toxicity and i'm not diminishing that at all. it broke my heart. if you look at the documentary, or you look at -- you look at even, you know, cnn's piers morgan i appeared on, i was broken. and i was in anguish over this. and i've repented, and i've anguished, and at some point in time we as a country, we as a world, we as an individual, have to pick up and move on. >> i think a lot of people have a lot of questions. some of them will be addressed in this documentary. james arthur ray, thanks so much for being with us. be sure to watch this film "enlighten us: the rise and fall of james arthur ray" saturday, 8:00 p.m. eastern. >> a lot more information by watching that. "newsroom" with carol costello picks up after this very quick break.

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