then why settle for slow internet? comcast business. built for speed. built for business. it is the top of the hour. thanks for joining us. in a year of an unprecedented presidential campaign, another first. the president wrapped up a thank you tour at a rally? cincinnati. take a look at some of the key moments. >> i'm going to discuss our action plan to make america great again. we're going to discuss it. although we did have a lot of fun fighting hillary, didn't we? right? we have so many problems to fix in our country. but i know that if we set aside our differences and we do have

differences, we're a very divideflation but we're not going to be divided for long. i've always brought people together. i know you find that hard to believe. although this group probably doesn't find it hard to believe. we pledge allegiance to one flag and that flag is the american flag. from now on, it's going to be america first. okay? america first. we're going to put ourselves first. we seek peace and harmony with the nations of the world. but that means recognizing the right of every country including our own, to look after its citizens. we would put other countries first. we had people running our country that truly didn't know what the hell they were doing.

they didn't want to call it. we're leading by so much that it's impossible if i lost every other vote and they refused to call. then at 3:00, i'll never forget, i watched a particular person. and we won wisconsin. and we won michigan. and we won pennsylvania. right? and that person is doing the map. and that person was saying for months that there's no way that donald trump can break the blue wall, right? we didn't break it. we shattered that sucker. we condemn bigotry and prejudice in all of its forms. we denounce all of the hatred and we forcefully reject the language of exclusion and separation. we're going to come together. we have no choice. we have to. and it's better.

it's better. and today, you're older and you're working harder and in many cases you have two jobs. some of that's because of obamacare and by the way, we are repealing and replacing obamacare. the job of the president is to keep america safe. and that will always be my highest priority. we will do everything in our power to keep the scourge of terrorism out of our country. we're going to keep it out of our country. just so you understand, people are pouring in from regions of the middle east. we have no idea who they are, where they come from, what they're thinking. and we're going to stop that dead cold flat. >> cnn's senior white house correspondent jim acosta joins us now.

was this the unscripted trump we knew on campaign trail? or a more, i can't tell what percentage of this was scripted and unscripted. it seemed to go back and forth. >> yeah. >> reporter: well, anderson, it was pretty much like the campaign. the teleprompters are up but trump is going to trump. and that's what we saw here tonight at this rally in cincinnati. it was billed as a thank you tour by his transition team but sounded more like a something else you tour when you listened to some of his comments here tonight. he went after the news media, railed against the media as the extremely dishonest news media, mocked some of the predictions he was going to lose heading into election and then he declared during these remarks here which the crowd eta up moment by moment that there will be a wall on the mexican border, that heal seek the end of obamacare that heal ask congress to repeal and replace obamacare and on and on. i think the big news of the night was when he announced that

retired marine general james mattis is going to be the next defense secretary. keep in mind, anderson, that is something his own spokesman jason miller denied on twitter was actually taking place. jason said a couple of hours ago that no final decision had been made. so donald trump not only does he like to stir up the crowds at these rallies he proved tonight that he also wants to make the news on his own and not even allow his own officials to do that. there was also a moment where he defended tapping wilbur ross as his next commerce secretary. that was interesting because one of the knocks on donald trump during this transition process is that he's not had a news conference to take some questions. he essentially answered one of those questions at this rally tonight. one of the questions being how can you be talking about draining the swamp when you're naming billionaires to your cabinet and donald trump said at one point well, wilbur ross knows how to make a lot of money. described him as a killer and

said he's going to be having other killers on his cabinet. anderson, donald trump has talked a lot about uniting the country but really tonight, this was a speech that was just about ianing his base. he certainly did that. >> how usual is this idea that a president-elect would be doing a thank you tour particularly in the states that were so critical for him to win? >> reporter: it's not that unusual. barack obama did this back in 2008. i think what is dramatically different is to hear donald trump and some of the language that he used as president-elect tonight. we've just not had a president-elect go after the news media in the way he did tonight. just openly mocking the news news media. openly sort of doing a touch down dance saying it was fun fighting with hillary clinton. and then saying to a couple of protesters let out of this audience earlier this evening, maybe somebody should remind them that hillary clinton lost a couple of weeks ago. this was not a priz elect who is

seeking to heal the divisions of this country tonight. this was a president-elect who is very comfortable in flaming those divisions and he did it time and again stlug. there's no way to sugar coat that or to tiptoe through the tulips. donald trump wanted to do a touch down dance and he spiked the football here in cincinnati. >> thanks very much. before we go to the panel, i want to play one of the moments jim talked about the announcement about donald trump's pick to be the secretary of defense not only using the general's name but also his kind of amazing nickname. let's watch. >> we are going to appoint "mad dog" mattis as our secretary of defense. but we're not announcing it till monday. so don't tell anybody. mad dog. he's great.

he is great. i asked one of the generals, i love the generals. and i won't use his name but he probably would come forward. but i said to him, you're a good general, aren't you? yes, sir, i am. i said, so how do you compare to general mattis? how do you compare to mad dog? sir, he's better than i am. i loved. i said i love you to say that. they love him. so we're going to be announcing him on monday of next week. keep it inside the room. but that's what we have. he's our best. they say he's the closest thing to general george patton that we have and it's about time. it's about time. >> donna, you were saying who that general was that said that about general mattis. >> that's right. apparently it was michael flynn who is going to be his national

security advisor. maybe not that surprising because i'm not sure how many generals he regularly talks to. at this point he probably talks to a lot of them. it's quite telling that he had that private moment with flynn and that was part of his impromptu announcement talking about that. >> when i lissenced to that, i was thinking about ronald reagan how there was the soviet union who were afraid of ronald reagan thinking he's crazy, he's going to have his hand on the button. i'm wondering whether the reaction in the diplomatic quarters after hearing the new secretary of defense is named mad dog. >> any number offembassies. >> they're trying to google mad dog and translate mad dog. so but van. >> it's one thing that he mentioned i'm trying to figure out where there might be some common ground. i think it's going to be mostly a lot of obstruction from democrats if nothing else just

to show -- he did mention this slug problem and this drug epidemic. and in the rust belt, the opioid epidemic is unbelievable. you have little bitty small towns with two or three deaths an day. more people are dying from opioids now than from car crashes. it's a huge thing. and you have had problems in other communities, as well. it might be there could be something there. also poverty. the urban poor, he always points out have been let down by democrats but the rural poor have been let down by republicans. nobody said flig about poverty for a long time. there could be some places but i guarantee you on the front end, the democrats have to hough and puff a lot to try to show they're not just going to -- >> glass/steagall which is something donald trump talked about reinstating on the campaign trail. i think it's even in the republican party platform. is that something elizabeth warren has also supported

whether or not that be actually some sort of common ground. >> there will be a lot of bats on that. he talked about we've spent $6 trillion in the middle east and all we have is instability and we should be for stability. that's going to pring in a few democrats. maybe some of the more liberal ones will say whatever we're doing, whatever you stand, it's not working. do it differently. that's something. opioids thing i agree with you 100%. hal rogers big, big champion of that. it's a very big bipartisan. >> on the campaign trail on the opioid thing we he talked a lot about this new hampshire and ohio because he would interact with people, and again, maybe there's more detail in online and in his -- on campaign trail, what he would reference was build a wall, we'll stop the drugs from coming in. not a lot about more detail. >> i was speaking to somebody today who has a family member who has been become a heroin

addict. a college educated man. and they're stricken by this. tis is one of the reasons why they are pleased about his talk about mexico. because they think these things are pouring through the border, ruining families. >> interesting, we know so of it is prescription drugs initially and because it's so expensive, people turn to heroin because it's cheaper. >> can i just say something as somebody who covered congress for a long time and has seen what happens when the party out of power immediately digs heels in and says it's no, no, no? to quote the meghan trainor song. it's really terrible. when that happens. and i think if the voters said anything it's that they want to blow up washington. and if the democrats don't at least have some understanding that they can't do exactly what they blamed republicans for doing to donald trump --

>> dana, if there is cooperation and bipartisanship, doesn't that benefit -- it benefits the country but it benefits the president in office and a lot of democrats don't want to give that to the president. i'm not saying that's right. that's a political reality. >> 100%. that's van's whole point. progressives are trying to make the decision whether or not to be obstructist or not. >> the lesson we learned though was the country was in a massive recession. two wars. >> that's true. >> we reached out to republicans. they acted like obama never tried to pick up republicans. he worked hard. the republicans -- >> i have to disagree. >> you'll get your turn. >> $300 billion into his stimulus. >> you'll get your turn. let me just tell my story. >> a member who -- >> let van finish. >> so i happened to be in the white house and remember him reaching out quite a bit. here's what happened. they obstructed, obstructened an they were rewarded.

and the 2010 midterm election. >> does that make it right? >> successful. >> you're asking -- you are a good person and asking us to do something that the actual lesson we just saw is, if you do the opposite of that, you get rewarded politically. >> i want to play what donald trump said tonight about gridlock and go to the. >> i've spoken to democrats. and i said to them, look, we can't go on with this gridlock. it's gone on for so years. it's gone on for so many years. they can't get together. we're going to get together. and i believe they want to get together. you know why? because it's time. and the people are angry. they're angry. and that he goi they're going to get together. we're going to make joint decisions. it the nice part, our victory was so great, we have the house, we have the senate. and we have the presidency.

>> in my opinion, van, having served in the first term of the first clinton, the only clinton i guess we can say now, and the and with obama and with bush, i can tell you clinton actually really did reap out. i think obama did superficially so he could say that he did but health care, great example, i'm going to have everybody in the room. i'm going to have the meetings open to the public. absolutely not. he did not look at any of our proposals. and we could not even put amendments on the floor. i think it's a huge mistake. i really would say to donald trump, you know what? you need to pick off a few democrats. not to conquer and divide but you need to get some on board because you want bipartisanship. >> i was in the clinton white house. you all ip peached him. not exactly bipartisanship. i'm sorry. >> what the republicans did as our president had not even spent his first night in the white

house, president obama, the republicans retired to a fancy d.c. restaurant and planned a strategy of massive resistance. history now shows it's the most successful political strategy of modern times. they won back the house. they won the senate and now they've won the white house. they have more state legislatures. they have the highest number of house seats since 1928. they have obstructed everything. the president and i didn't work for barack obama but his health care plan came from mitt romney and newt gingrich. his cap and trade plan came from john mccain. miss immigration plan came in george w. bush and you prospered by that. >> david gergen, what would you say to democrats who are trying to figure out is it resistance? is it common ground? >> i think they have to figure out two or three issues on which they're willing to cooperate. infrastructure is the most obvious. they desperately need to come up with a plan of their own. wisest democrats say we have to move beyond this question

whether we resist or compromise. the question is how do we become the party of the future. how do we bring new solutions to the table? because hillary clinton ran on a set of ideas that seemed rather steal to most voters. donald trump left it wide open on technology and globalization and other big forces that are changing the world. the trump plan does not speak to the future. it speaks to a lot of the current problems today. you need to come up with a plan that really deals with these big forces that are moving. > all the talk, is it for democrats saying are we going to be a resistance party, common ground, republicans saying what is our strategy? there's folks listening sick of this kind of talk. donald trump kind of spoke to that tonight. the question is, will there it be any different? >> that's the problem. it is true this was proven to be a very successful political strategy. if you're democrats you want to be successful, you think i don't want to help him being a successful president. the problem is where does it end?

so then it's the democrats to do this and get back in power and republicans say we do this forever. at some point the cycle. >> it lies in ourselves. as long as the american people reward obstructionism which they have from the state house to the white house, voters rewarded obstruction by giving the entire keys to the kingdom to the republicans. >> i would say that was republicans tend to be more skeptical about what role can play anyway. it's important to note a lot of the democrats particularly progressive democrats at this point see donald trump as a unique threat. there are a lot of people who think this is a guy who could undercut american democracy. there are a lot of reasons why people think that and a lot of reasons why that stem from some of the rhetoric he used on the campaign trail. the progressives are wrestling with. there's not a lot of democrats that want to get out ahead.

>> heidi. >> she says he's a candidate of bigotry. >> it's hard to get past that. that's part of the reason why -- >> the way ronald reagan dealt with this is you pick up the phone and call the democratic members of congress. they're aware that your political strength is such they're hearing from their own constituents that they'd better hop to or they could be defeated in the next election. >> you know the dynamic though that's so different than under reagan and it is the kick in the end, voter identification, the voter's right to super apportionment that everybody is walking around with a republican plus ten, a democrat plus ten, 10% or 15% vac, some cases 30 and 40%. all the house races are basically settled. maybe 20 are in play. but the senate is a different animal. 23 democrat senators are up for re-election. that's where the bat ground is. frankly if i was advising the president, i would say don't worry about a democrat from california because he or she can't afford politically to get on your team.

but a swing state democrat, senator, totally different. ball game. >> the one thing i'll add is that you're right. the voters have rewarded republicans. but donald trump is also not for the most part one of those republicans. he's not a typical republican. he is a pop uist. you said it yourself he completely opposes paul ryan for example and most of the republican establishment figures in washington on trade. and so and that's someplace where a lot of your democratic colleagues can get behind him. the devil is in the details but there are areas because he isn't a typical politician separating out what you said, is not going to be easy. >> i agree with that. i don't think the election should be read as a triumph of obstructionism. i think trump was not one of the candidates who ran on that. he ran it for change to bust the whole thing up. and that was a pore important. it was a change election that got him. >> we're going to continue the conversation next about the

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president-elect trump spoke in cincinnati tonight, hitting many of the same themes and same targets from his campaign rallies. listen to a claim he made tonight about people pouring into the country. >> the job of the president is to keep america safe, and that will always be my highest priority. we will do everything in our power to keep the scourge of terrorism out of our country. we're going to keep it out of our country. just so you understand, people are pouring in from regions of

the middle east. we have no idea who they are, where they come from, what they're thinking, and we're going to stop that dead cold flat. >> back with the panel. that's a, line for line, almost, from the campaign, as president-elect. and as president, does he need to, you know, either explain exactly who he's talking about, where he's getting these numbers, or does he not need to do anything to change? >> i -- >> i mean, because pakistan, the other side note to this is, pakistan, it was just yesterday, released, basically word-for-word it seemed, the conversation between president-elect trump, i think it was the prime minister of pakistan, in which donald trump was incredibly effusive about pakistan. pakistan is clearly one of the countries that he would be talking about, and yet there was sort of no mention of that in the call. >> i don't think it's factually

true that there are lots and lots of people pouring into the country right now. i don't think that there's any evidence to support that. and i think one of the issues we'll continue to have in his presidency is the same one we had in the campaign, what do you do with a post-factual world? and it's very troublesome that we're dealing with this. but let me say, research universities in this country are worried about just the opposite effect. if we have an anti-science president and right at the tail end, there was a little mention of science and technology, but there's deep fear if you're really going to go down that track, that there are a lot of people around the world who used to come here to get graduate degrees and stay on and become the backbone of so much of our research in silicon valley and beyond, that they won't want to come. once you step back from the leadership role and china becomes the leader, there's a lot of reason -- >> i think back to one of the interviews that candidate trump did with bannon on -- i think it was a radio show, and that was an issue they talked about.

donald trump seemed supportive of the idea of keeping people who had come here on those kind of visas, keeping them in the united states. clearly that was not something bannon when he was interviewing donald trump seemed to like the idea of at all. >> but i think that the post-fact thing is really the big issue. and corey lewandowski was at an event at harvard and basically said that the problem with the media was that we took him too literally and we were too hung up on the facts and the real people sort of understood -- >> he said that at harvard? >> yeah. but the point is, it's not that real people are understanding the bigger truths, because the bigger truth is actually not true. it's a little hard as a journalist to try to understand how you're supposed to cover it. >> i think, for the muslim community in particular, the optics are still really bad. and i think where the post-truth thing really hurts is honestly, if a muslim family moved next door to you, you would be the happiest person in the world.

first of all, the chances of your kids getting in trouble just went way down, way down. because the muslim community has the lowest crime rate, the highest entrepreneurship, the highest educational attainment for women in the country. they are the model american community. and so when you have people who now are afraid to come here, and that's starting to happen. you have geniuses who are from pakistan, who are from indonesia, who now, i don't know if i'm safe here, that becomes an economic problem for america long-term. so that we're starting to do stuff here that doesn't make good sense for what has made us great so far. and the optics are still very bad. >> and that's why pat mccrory lost in north carolina. >> there is a difference between van is talking about and looking at what just happened in ohio. somebody who came in here and was not vetted seriously well. if he's got, if he had post -- >> he's 18 years old and came in 2014, so he was -- >> but anderson, what i'm saying is, we had, what, two of the 9/11 hijackers who were floating

around with their visas expired. we had san bernardino. these things are happening and people are winding up dead. clearly, the system -- >> we've had three -- you know me, we've had three refugees do something bad out of millions. >> he's saying thousands -- >> say that to the families of the dead. >> he's saying thousands pouring in, we have no idea who they are or -- >> no, there's a term that the border patrol uses, otm, other than mexicans coming in. there's truth to the fact that there are lots of people coming in, thousands, probably, i don't know the exact number, because we don't have a control on it. but i want to say this, one of the things that is in his immigration plan that's very rarely talked about is a committee, a study on radicalization. how do you stop the lone wolf who is embedded, maybe i'm an american citizen, maybe not. maybe he's lived here for ten years. what makes him turn radical? we don't know. >> trump kind of -- trump kind

of helps turn people radical. >> there are tons of studies, by the way of, you know -- a book was just wrote basically analyzing every case of jihadist in america and kind of looking at what commonalities or lack of commonalities there are. there are studies on this. it's not like we're completely flying blind. >> we need to know how people become self-radicalized, which is apparently what happened to this murderer at ohio state. this terrorist at ohio state. but the stereotyping and scapegoating, mr. trump didn't say anything like this when a right wing white kid went into mother emmanuel baptist chist church in south carolina, charleston and slaughtered people because there were black in their bible study. now, it was not an attack on christians or white people or conservatives, we didn't scapegoat and stereotype them because there's more of us. but that's what's so upsetting about mr. trump scapegoating muslims or immigrants or refugees when we have moem grown

terrorist who are not muslims, as well like this animal in -- alleged, i guess, i hadn't been tried yet but this young man. >> and now to say that he didn't make a public statement because at the time he wasn't a public figure running to office to the degree -- well, he wasn't running for office back then. but i think he absolutely would denounce that and probably has denounced that -- no question about it. >> poi poi my point is, the scapegoating and the stereotyping that trump engages in is really damaging. >> you're saying he's very reluctant to make public statements? >> let me say this about the muslim community? there's an assumption on the left that, well, donald trump has offended them, they're not with him. who was it that absolutely, positively blew the arab spring? it was barack obama and hillary clinton. they embraced the arab spring, which led to as much instability -- >> we hear that a lot, but the other question is, you know, what -- should they have just stuck with mubarak and crushed the pro democracy demonstrators? >> i think they should have known that they were embracing the muslim brotherhood and they were embracing instability. and look at the results of their

the arab spring. it hasn't been a positive thing. >> why after all of this, i understand putting money into finding out how people become radicalized, but why is there no effort to figure out, how do we become a more inclusive society, how do we make sure that the muslims feel safe here, so they're on our side? you i don't understand. >> well, david, i would suggest that -- first of all, stop dividing everybody into groups. >> you can't have it both ways! >> we were all called racist, sexist, homophobic -- >> you've just been attacking these people who come in here, who are muslims, and get self-radicalized. if you're going to have it that way, what about looking at it the other way. i don't understand that. >> not attacking people, saying that there are people who -- >> when they label people, it's good. when we label people, it's bad. >> you're coming into this country to be an american. he talked about that tonight. we're here to be americans. we're not here to be black, white, muslim -- >> but someone who maintains their muslim identity, who maintains their religion, they're still american. >> perfectly fine! perfectly fine! that's what freedom is.

that's great. but what i'm saying is, you cannot keep perpetually dividing people, running around -- >> but as a candidate, he said, stop all muslims from coming in. isn't that dividing -- >> because from a particular area of the world -- >> but he didn't initially say that -- >> but he brought it back, he did, and he said from an area that's known to be anti-american. and i don't know why the left would have problems with that. >> rudy giuliani said when he was a u.s. attorney and went after the mafia, he went after italians and no one accused him of being anti-italian because he is italian. you go where the situation is, right? i might add, this is a long tradition in american history, when those civil right workers in mississippi were killed in 1964, no one said, let's investigate the irish community in boston. they were after white members of the klan -- >> but the march in the st. patrick's day parade, you know, and in the german parade and whatever, but for muslims to -- it's muslims who seem to be the ones who are supposedly not taking part --

>> it's fine, but in this country, you come here to be an american. >> i'm all for that. i totally agree. >> i don't know, it was so long ago. it's not even what you're talking about now, but the problem of what trump does, he takes anecdotes and takes one bad incident and extrapolates it on to an entire group of people. and that's the scapegoating and it's very dangerous. and so he takes, you know, somebody who's tragically killed by an illegal immigrant and turns it into every illegal immigrant is out to get you and is going to kill your daughter. and that's a very dangerous thing to be doing. >> especially as president. i come back to george w. bush after 9/11 making a point, this is not a war against islam. that was in the, you know, horrific days immediately after 9/11. a difficult statement in those days -- >> and saying islam is a religion of peace and really trying to make sure that we don't demonize muslims. and trump, i feel, is doing the opposite, actually. >> well, would you agree that hillary clinton being afraid to

say "radical jihadist" was a little bit silly, politically correct gag rule? why doesn't the left -- >> she actually did say it. >> she probably said it. she was forced to say it, the way she flipped on tpp. >> trump said it tonight. so i think by morning, isis will disband. because that's all you have to do, use the magic word. >> all right, all right, all right. >> you mentioned the breach of protocol. and it really was a breach, that the pakistanis made when they put out -- >> totally. >> -- what allegedly -- >> it seemed like a very detailed -- >> it was a very detailed and it sounded like the way trump talked, talking about how great the prime minister was and how great pakistan is, which flies in the face of, first of all, of just, you know, reality, that pakistan has not been all that helpful. >> and by the way, that prime minister is not the biggest power in pakistan. >> he's not. but having said all of that, what that said to me was that despite what he says tonight and

even especially on the campaign trail, behind the scenes, when he thinks of himself as a president and as a diplomat, he thinks he can fix things by charming even the most evil people. now, i'm not saying that that is going to work. that could be a big problem with putin and so forth. but i think it really gave us a window into what he's really willing to do -- >> interesting. let's play -- he talked about foreign leaders tonight. let's listen. >> over the last two weeks, since our victory, i've spoken to many foreign leaders. and i will tell you, they have such respect for us. they all tell me how this was amazing. they all tell me how they sat in their magnificent rooms in different countries throughout the world, these are the leaders, the prime ministers, the presidents, all of them, how they sat in their magnificent rooms, watching in wonderment

and hearing how people came to vote that didn't vote in 20 years. people came to vote that haven't voted before. and they had trump shirts on and they had "make america great" hats on and they had buttons pouring off. and they thought it was amazing. and honestly, one of them told me, i truly respect the united states again because of what happened. >> it was interesting in that pakistan readout, there was no comment about what the pakistan prime minister allegedly said. it was all allegedly what donald trump had said. >> you know, i'll say this about pakistan, there is such -- >> i'm happy to be done. >> i was waiting for gergen. >> i think him meeting with pakistanii leaders is very important.

they've always been an ally. >> donald trump tweeted in 2006 that they're not an ally. in fact, here's the tweet. pakistan is not our friend. we've given them billions and billions of dollars and what? >> that tweet may have said that, but they have been an ally. that doesn't mean they're not an ally. they're a nuclear power and they've always been very responsive to america. and if you look at what's gun on in pakistan, i've been there.times, it's a very difficult country because what's happening in afghanistan has poured over the border. >> you can make an argument their intelligence service hasn't been supportive of america -- they've done things which have gone against america in supporting the taliban. >> it's not a real structured government the way we think of a type of government -- >> but their intelligence services have had a hand in the taliban. >> not to mention turning a blind eye to -- >> so why are we going to tell them when we're coming after osama, right? >> wise move. >> right. >> when presidents come into office, i think it is perfectly normal to look around and give

people a blank slate. and we're starting fresh, right? and then the minute you get in trouble, go sideways, that's when you would begin to have problems. >> but there's they tenet in politics, there's no permanent allies, just permanent interests. donald trump works in the opposite direction. permanent allies and doesn't seem to have permanent interests. he didn't really articulate strong foreign policy positions over the course of the campaign. so he thinks he can make deals with everyone on an ongoing basis. so he gets on the phone with leaders in pakistan and has a casual conversation with them, tells them things they want to hear. when he had this conversation with steve bannon, steve bannon said he sort of changed his mind which speaks to the fact that people can turn his head if they're the last ones to speak to him. and this is different. this is potentially problematic, but it is very much different. >> let's hold that thought. there's a reason why donald trump spoke in ohio tonight. it's one of several rust belt states that helped push him across the finish line and win the presidency. he made that very clear to the crowd tonight and they certainly

returned the love. randi kaye talked to some of them this afternoon. >> we're going to be the first on the victory tour. so that's why i'm here. >> reporter: for most of the people at this so-called thank you tour, so far, so good. what's impressed you so far? >> impressed me? his perseverance, his attitude. the fact that he's just worked tirelessly is certainly a credit, i think, to what he's going to be able to do going forward. >> how would you say the transition is going so far? >> i think he's doing great. he's just like a worldaholic. >> reporter: what has impressed you about donald trump so far since he was elected? >> just his composure, he's acting very presidential like. >> reporter: everyone we spoke with here is in all of how quickly donald trump is butting together his cabinet. >> glad to see he's had a couple of women on there. >> his cabinet is likely to be one of the wealthiest cabinets in modern history. can you relate to that?

>> personally, no! >> reporter: is that okay with you? >> but i'm trusting that i really do believe that he's picking the a plus plus people that he says. the people that are the most educated in the field and that will do the job that he wants done. >> yeah, they're billionaires, but they're smart with their money. we're going to be smart with america's money. it only makes sense to me. >> reporter: while trump appears to be considering naming mitt romney secretary of state, these supporters are a lot less forgiving. should donald trump pick mitt romney as secretary of state? >> i don't know. the things he said about him, i don't know. he has to be really forgiving to be able to pick him, but i don't think so. >> who would you like? >> giuliani. i like him. >> that's a big no on mitt romney. i supported mitt four years ago, you know, but the way he was bad mouthing trump, no. no way. >> reporter: trump supporters

like what they see in the president-elect, especially his get-it-done attitude. but they haven't forgotten that more than half of those who voted did not choose their candidate. >> everybody has a choice. we were all given that and some people make bad choices and some people make good choices. and i think i made an excellent choice and i'm proud of it. >> they're going to be impressed. they're going to be trump supporters because he's going to prove he's going to get the economy going again. he is going to build a wall. it's going to happen. >> everyone here believes trump will deliver on his promises, especially the one he made to help people like them. >> what will he do for someone like you? >> i have a small business and when he said he was going to cut that down to half, 15%, that's -- >> the tax? >> it's going to help, tremendously, it's going to help me. >> what do you want to say to the voters who didn't vote for donald trump today? >> give the man a chance, he's going to be one of the greatest we've ever had. >> randi joins us from cincinnati.

seems a lot -- pretty much everyone you talked to said, give him a chance. to those who didn't vote for him. >> absolutely, anderson. i mean, they all think he's going to surprise everyone. and that's mainly because he's an outsider, he's not a politician, he's different. they believe that he's going to deliver on all of his promises. they believe he's going to unite the country. i went through that crowd and over and over again, i asked every single person i talked to today, what do you want to say to those voters who did not vote trump? every single person said to me, give him a chance. even their friends and family, who many tell me have stopped talking to them because they vote ford donald trump, they're now pleading with them to give donald trump a chance. they believe that he's going to deliver, and as i said, will surprise everyone. >> surprise a lot of people just by winning. we'll see. randi, thanks very much. just ahead, the other big news, the deal he made to keep more than a thousand jobs at an indiana factory from leaving the country. he vusted the factory. we'll have details on the deal next. ...marvel studios.

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remember, there's really two big stories tonight. the rally in cincinnati, president-elect's -- the president-elect's second speech today, but earlier, and that's the other big story, he visited a carrier factory in

indianapolis and spoke about the deal he cut to keep the company from shipping more than a thousand jobs to mexico. carrier is going to receive millions in financial incentives, and trump can now say he has made good on a campaign promise. it's obviously great news for the workers who are going to get to keep their jobs. martin savidge joins us now with new details on the deal. very welcome news in indiana. what's the latest on it? >> absolutely welcome news. in fact, most of the people, even those whose jobs were saved said they still can't believe that their jobs have been saved. i mean, it is unprecedented in the minds of folks here. but essentially, donald trump, president-elect, shows up and he's with mike pence, the vp-elect, who's also the governor of indiana and they arrive and go out to the carrier plant. of course, they're treated to what is essentially a hero's welcome there. they're led around the plant by a hand-picked group of employees. but it was still all smiles. it was still picture-taking and essentially, it was a deal that now apparently $7 million is going to be coming from the state of indiana, spread over ten years.

donald trump says that carrier is investing $16 million. remember they were going to shut the whole place down. and then there are the jobs saved. but the most remarkable thing was that donald trump seemed to imply in his speech, that even he didn't think he could save the plant. here's what he said. >> they played my statement and i said, carrier will never leave, but that was a euphemism. i was talking about carrier like all other companies from here on in. because they made the decision a year and a half ago. but he believed that was, and i could understand it, i actually said, i didn't make it -- when they played it, i said, i did make it, but i didn't mean it quite that way. >> reporter: in other words, he was sort of saying, well, carrier is an example. he didn't know people were going to take him literally, but they did and he decided to act on it and here we are with the results. >> what more are you learning about the deal itself? >> well, we still don't know a lot about this deal, as far as

the details. i sort of alluded to what the financial incentives were in the state of indiana and also what carrier is giving in return. numerically, there are some issues here. donald trump said in his speech there were about 1,100 jobs saved. it turns out it was probably more like 800 jobs that were saved. 300 he was referring to were actually never going to move in the first place. but 800 jobs. these were jobs that were going to vaporize. he managed through some deal that we don't know to keep 800 jobs. and you cannot downplay how significant that is, especially here. especially when you know that there are families behind every one of those jobs. so the consequences are thousands of people who are going to have a very happy holiday that not that long ago, they thought it was the end of their jobs as they knew it. remarkable, really. >> not only their family members but obviously the carry on effects in the community keeping those families in place. martin, thanks very much.

back with the panel. i mean, a victory for donald trump and for vice president elect. >> no question. look, this was a very good day for donald trump. i think even his biggest opponents would say that political opponents would say that. because he was able to do something in an incredibly unorthodox way. people will criticize him for the way he handled because it was unpresidential as he said but he was able to get something done. can it be replicated? unclear because this company has defense contracts, contracts with the government they they were clearly worried they were going to loss. whether he said that to them we don't know. it's unclear how much he can replicate it. >> he called the parent company. >> united technologies and they have billions of dollars in revenue that comes from the federal government. so but that aside, this is symbolic. it is real. it is real people's lives. and it is something that you know that

when he got up on stage and said -- referred back to his prior remarks about carrier on the campaign trail and said that he was surprised when people took him seriously, took him literally. i this a lot of the same for foreign policy. as elise said in her piece, it is the the kind of welfare that a lot of liberals may think of supporting. if we are talking about saving jobs, not just a hand out but keeping their jobs, their dignity and keep us a purpose and cost relatively little money if you break it down over ten years per person. >> listen, bernie sanders had a piece in "the washington post" today that's been quoted all day. i don't recall him writing such

i think president obama deserved credit for saving the automobile industry. it's a big accomplishment. let's go on to how important this was. it's not the number of jobs per se but the powerful message it sends to working people in the. the important message is i'm on your side. i'm on your side. that's a message that goes beyond his base, to build up a following. it doesn't depend on this rally. >> and there is a possibility of hope. >> that's right. within the depression, franklin roosevelt could not get us out of the depression but he built a bridge and that was important. >> identified one of the important things. >> right. you are sending a message to this constituency that voted for you that i can do things. i can take action. that to me -- one of the things

that fdr was heralded for was his first 100 days where it was action, action, action, bank holiday and other things. this is what donald trump is all about. as i've said many times here you can't build the kind of business he's built without taking action. you don't just sit there and think of things. you do things. that's his m.o. and he just showed it. democrats need to learn from it, not poo-poo it. >> my father was a salesman and he said facts tell but stories sell. he drops it to 4.4 and loses indiana in re-election. he takes unemployment in michigan 15%, drops to 4.7% and hillary loses michigan. why? because democrats are often thinking in terms of statistics, broad policy but not people. i'm telling you, i'm trump

ardent critic and democrats need to learn from this. this is effective salesmanship. >> you said something about hillary clinton on the campaign trail -- you were saying this on -- >> she was at an airway terminal. >> marcy is a democrat who voted against nafta. i voted against nafta. there was a great semantic in these jobs weren't just disappears but going to mexico. that is the battle cry that every worker in america, that's what they say every time a factory closes. 200 counties in america that barack obama won hillary clinton lost and donald trump won. that goes to what you are talking about. >> i was in a couple of those counties in ohio that had gone obama twice and then voted for trump. one of the things that was

present for union families who saw themselves as democrats, who voted for trump, was that in their counties these closings were happening, these factories being closed and not just closed but knocked to the ground and nothing there but grass. for their whole lives these monstrous structures had opinion there and there was a hurt that wasn't addressed. >> we have been to places where the downtown is dead. >> i was struck by listening to paul talk about the fact that democrats don't know how to talk. i'm thinking of your candidate, bill clinton. >> bill clinton. >> let's take a break. a lot more with our panel next. ♪ i bow down to pray

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>> those families the heart break, pain and frustration of having been abandoned. tuesday night we will hear from those families directly and be surprised. the stereotype about trump voters, there are some you might be mad at, not those trump voters. >> thank you for watching. more news ahead. >> this is the moment. this is our chance. this is our window for action. this is the hour when the great deeds can be done and our highest hopes can come true. we're going to do it, folks. we're going to do it. >> a raucous rally, cheering crowds, not business as usual for a president-elect. this is contract cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. tonight's rally comes after his visit to carrier's plant in indianapolis and this promise. >> the companies are not going to leave the united states