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words that some people don't like to say. >> they are thugs and murderers and they should be treated that way. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. president-elect trump promising to put america first by c. appearing for the first time also with one of his cabinet picks defense nominee general james mattis. trump also selling his skills as a dealmaker in chief taking aim at corporate america and taking credit for attracting $50 billion from japanese telecom giant. a deal agreed upon before he was elected. we're just 44 days away from inauguration day. let's begin our coverage with cnn jessica schneider live outside trump tower in new york. he may not be president officially yet, but he is certainly already doing the job. >> he is, chris. making some announcements and holding some rallies. donald trump is back in new york city this morning after fighting through the inclement weather to
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get to those clouds down in fayetteville, north carolina. it was a thank you rally where donald trump did largely stick tahis script and listed off his list of priorities and also promised to keep this country unified and also touted his business experience and his business expertise and his election win. >> we will have two simple rules when it comes to rebuilding this country. buy american and hire american. >> reporter: taking his america first message to north carolina, the president-elect vowing to protect american jobs. >> we will defeat the enemy on jobs. and we have to look at it almost as a war. >> reporter: donald trump, once again, taking aim at corporate america. the president-elect spent much of tuesday criticizing a government contract with boeing to build a new air force one. trump tweeting, costs are out of control. more than $4 billion. cancel order. it's unclear why trump attacked boeing, america's largest exporter or where trump even got that hefty price tag.
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boeing says it currently has $170 million development deal to study the new aircraft. >> i think boeing is doing a little bit of a number. >> reporter: trump also touting his dealmaking skills claiming credit for a month-old pledge by softbank to invest $50 billion in the united states aimed at creating jobs. details of the deal have not been released. >> masa, great guy of japan. he's pledged that he's going to put $50 billion into the united states because of our victory. he wasn't investing in our country. $50 billion. 50,000 jobs. >> reporter: staying largely on message, a more controlled trump promising to fight terror and increase military spending. >> in my first budget report to congress, i am going to ask for the elimination of the defense sequester. >> reporter: trump officially announcing his secretary of defense pick general james mattis.
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>> "mad dog" plays no games. >> reporter: touting his credentials as a four-star general, nato commander and his leadership during desert storm. >> as long as the senate votes to consent. >> reporter: all this coming on the heels of a shakeup in the trump transition team. firing the son of retired lieutenant general michael flynn for pushing a baseilous conspiracy theory that led a man to fire a rifle inside a washington pizza shop. jake tapper grilling the vice president elect over security requests for flynn's son. >> you must be aware that the transition team put in for security clearance for general flynn's son? >> i'm aware that his son was helping the scheduling, jake. >> but you put in for security clearance for him? >> helping his dad arrange for meetings and provide meetings. but that is no longer the case.
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>> security? >> i think that's the appropriate decision for us to move forward. >> donald trump will attend a fund-raising breakfast this morning in new york. he'll also meet with outgoing north carolina governor pat mccrory who conceded election this week. could a potential cabinet post be on that meeting. now in addition after some of these meetings today donald trump will hit the road back to des moines, iowa, and grand rapids on friday and also attend the army/navy down in baltimore, maryland, on saturday. >> let's bring in now ohio republican congressman jim jordan and mark meadows. mr. meadows is the newly elected chair of the house freedom caucus and congressman jordan will be the chair. gentlemen, thanks so much for being here. >> good to be with you. >> thank you, alisyn. >> let me first ask you both about the waiver for general
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mattis. he has been in civilian life for three years, not the necessary seven years. are you both comfortable granting that waiver? >> when you look at his career and where he's been, obviously, it's the president-elect's pick. i don't see a real issue in terms of some of the times that you put those prohibitions on there where general mattis would violate any of that. and i don't hear a whole lot of pushback here on capitol hill one way or another. it's really a minor concern for most members whether they be democrat or republican. >> you agree, congressman? >> i do. >> and, look, he has to go through senate confirmation and there will be hearings and witnesses and all kinds of discussion and questions so the american people can judge for themselves and the united states senate can get to an answer. i think it makes sense that's who the president-elect wants for that position. so, let's just move forward. >> let's do that. and let's talk about some of the issues on which the house freedom caucus seems to diverge
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from president-elect trump. so, let's just tick through some of them. free trade. you've seen things crop up already. mr. trump seems to not be as comfortable with free trade as the house freedom caucus is. congressman meadows, how are you going to reconcile that? >> i think really when we come to look at this it's not necessarily where we disagree on free trade, it's really the parameters around that. many of you might recall more than 12 months ago when the whole issue of tpp came up. it was the freedom caucus that kind of held the line there and even though we're real free traders, we felt like it was a bad deal for america. so, i think that we'll find some common ground with the president-elect in terms of trade and protecting american jobs and making sure that we put those people in ohio and wisconsin and pennsylvania and north carolina back to work. but it's really about making sure that we have a level playing field. so, i think that there is really
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a foundation where perhaps we may have some differences on tactics. overall the strategy will be a common denominator. >> congressman jordan, let's dive into a couple of those things. how do you feel about the tariffs? the stiff tariffs that president-elect trump says companies that employ people overseas and make some of their products overseas should have to pay to the tune of like 35%. >> alisyn, look, we'll make deals best for america just like the president-elect has talked about. i'm much more concerned where there are perceived differences between us and the president-elect, i'm concerned about all those areas we agree and people sent us here to do. the establishment in this town has a way of taking those things, what we are supposed to do and what they sent us here to do and watering those down and not getting those accomplished. i'm much more concerned about those areas than maybe some of the perceived differences and how this will all shake out in the end. our job is real simple. do what the voters sent us here
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to do and fix the border, secure the border and get rid of obama care and make sure we have work requirements for able-bodied people and put in this tax code and put in a tax code that is conducive to economic growth and making sure this town doesn't water those things down than i am some of those things you all want to talk about. >> i understand. but some of these things are big deals and some of these things you weren't sent to deal with. for instance, the national debt. a house freedom caucus things that that is a big deal. you guys are -- >> it is a big deal. >> $40 trillion. >> indeed. i mean, you're opposed to increasing the debt and then there are all of these different tax policy centers that have said that mr. trump's plans will increase the debt. i'll just pull up some for you. tax policy center said they would increase the debt by $7.2 trillion over a decade. go ahead, congressman. >> this is the first president. the first president since world war ii not to have at least one year of 3% growth or higher.
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not one single year. >> it's just gone up. you know that it's just gone up right now. the new numbers, right? that after eight years of digging out the growth has just now gone back up. >> they know republicans come to the white house. that's what's -- took him eight years to get there and maybe some of it has to do with the fact that there is a new president that is coming to the white house that will get rid of this ridiculous tax code and put in policies conducive to economic growth. >> you think the new jobless numbers where unemployment has gone down to record levels now and growth has gone up, you think that that is because of this election? >> all i'm saying, alisyn, i think that when you get rid of the current tax code and reform the tax code we have and get rid of some of it, you'll not have the thing we had for the last eight years stumbling along at 1%, 1.5% growth rate.
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>> i see you congressman meadows enjoying this exchange, but i do want to bring you in. are you comfortable with the prediction that donald trump will increase the national debt by $7.2 trillion over the next decade? >> you know, when you get a lot of the think tanks. what they do is they don't do what they call dynamic scoring. what they look at is just the number of jobs perhaps that are created. the tax and the potential for that to grow. so, they don't look at the growth and the economy. i'm a business guy. i understand that when you lower taxes, you actually increase job growth and opportunity. so, it's not just on the taxes. because the other component of that. there was a study in 2011 that said for each 5% reduction and regulations that we create between 1.1 and 1.2 million jobs. so, on that, that coupled with that will spur a growth that hopefully will be at 4 to 4.5% gdp. when we start to see that, then all of a sudden some of these
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conversations we have are not as difficult. now, are we looking at the debt without a doubt and we need to make sure that we have a plan to pay it off. what we've done in the past is we just continue to increase it and increase it. i'm willing to recognize it may go up in the short term as long as we have a real plan to pay it off in the long term. >> okay, gentlemen. thank you very much for taking time to be on "new day." nice to talk to you. chris? >> same here. >> please take the time. go online and google and see if reductions and regulations always equals more jobs. google and see for yourself if it's that simple. he never mentioned president-elect donald trump by name. but when president obama delivered his final address to the troops, he was sending a clear message to his successor. athena jones live at the white house with more. what was that message and what do you think it meant to the president to deliver it at this stage?
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>> goodern moi morning, chris. it's a complex world and you have to look at fighter counterterrorism and recognize its complexity. this was a speech, a wide-ranging speech the president used to tout his administration's accomplishments in the fight against terror groups. the killing of osama bin laden, weakening of al qaeda. and the promise made so far in the war against isis. while he didn't say president-elect trump's name, the president did press his case for closing the prison at guantanamo bay for maintaining the ban on torture. these are two areas where it's clear he has views at odds with those expressed by president-elect trump. he also talked aboutthe need to live up to american values during this fight against terrorism. upholding the rule of law, protecting several liberties and not making decisions based on fear and not stigmatizing muslims. here's more of what he had to say on that. >> we act like this is a war between the united states and islam. we're not just going to lose more americans to terrorist
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attacks. but we'll also lose sight of the very principles we claim to defend. the united states of america does not propose a test for freedom. we are a country that was founded so people can practice their faith as they choose. >> of course, during the campaign, donald trump famously proposed a ban on muslims entering the country. he since softened that a bit focus on suspension of immigration. the white house insists that this is a speech that was planned, that was in the works before donald trump won the election and so it's not our response to him. it wasn't written for him. but it's very clear that the president wanted to use this opportunity not only to thank those special operation forces rbs b but also to talk about what his administration accomplished and make the approach as the best way to go forward. we'll see if donald trump accepts that advice. >> yes, we shall.
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athena, thank you for that reporting. we are following breaking news for you right now out of pakistan. local media reports that a passenger plane has gone missing shortly after taking off. the plane has at least 37 people onboard. officials say the airline lost contact with the plane on this domestic flight heading to islamabad. we'll stay on top of this story and bring you developments. the exact orgen and cause of the deadly oakland warehouse fire is still a mystery. but we do know more. for instance, the city received 21 complaints about the "ghost ship" warehouse over three decades. the most recent complaint came just three weeks before the inferno. and it was about trash and debris around the building. at least 36 people died during friday's electric dance party at that warehouse. a controversial abortion bill called the heart beat bill is now sitting on ohio governor john kasich's desk. ohio state lawmakers approving legislation banning abortions
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the moment the heart beat of a fetus is detected. that usually happens about six weeks into a preg daens. if governor kasich signs the so-called heart beat bill into law, it will be one of the toughest restrictions on abortion in the nation. >> now, usually the law is set out by the supreme court says that after the period in roe v. wade is when states can legislate what they want to do. when does life begin? >> people feel differently about that. >> but, usually, in this society secular society you convene science to do this. used to be when your heart stopped, you were dead. science evolved and brain activity is what you have to look at. why don't they do it when life begins? the reproductive rights. >> there's lots of different definitions about viability. >> because in the absence of science, you will have opinion. this law is something that you really have to think about.
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a big implication for what we are as a people. >> of course. you just heard republican leaders say their first item of business is repealing obama care. then what? we'll talk to a democratic senator about this health care fight. everybody knows that the aca needed fixing, but what is your future and who loses if it's gone? introducing drug-free aleve direct therapy. a high intensity tens device that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source. new aleve direct therapy.
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on xfinity x1. campaign and poetry, govern and pros. let's see it now in action when it comes to health care. the latest senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, vice president elect mike pence say, oh, yeah, they're going to repeal. first priority. then what? now we're getting into this reckoning of an extended timeline of what comes next. let's discuss this from the democratic side. we have senator jeff murkily. thank you for joining us. now, to be fair, hillary clinton lost this argument in the election. she allowed the trump campaign to win on the notion of repealing it being good enough. but what is the reality of what happens once it is repealed, which is just a signature away.
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what about the replacement part? >> the republicans are terrified of actually repealing because so many elements are quite popular. the idea that you can get insurance even if you have pre-existing conditions. the fact that children can stay on your paleacy until age 26. the investment in prevention because prevention is so much smarter than treating diseases down the road. all these elements really resonate. now they're saying we're going to repeal it but only make that come into effect three years from now because we know there will be a big backlash from americans if we take away these very popular elements of making health care work for all americans. >> vice president elect mike pence was speaking to the ease of repeal and the difficulty of replace. here's the sound. >> we're going takeep oo keep o promise to the american people and repeal obama care. and what we're also going to do is work with members of the house and senate to ensure an
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orderly transition. and the length of time that that will take will be a subject of legislated debate and we'll fill in the substance of that. >> that certainly wasn't part of the trump campaign. that work with the other side, orderly transition. get rid of it and put in something else. the problem is, as the that's much easier said than done. 56% of the newly uninsured if you get rid of all the aca protections and subsidies will be nonhispanic white, also known as the trump base of their vote. what is that reality mean to you on the democratic side? >> well, i tell you, take my home state of oregon. there has been a vast expansion of health care, particularly in rural areas. access. this is a profound impact on folks in america who have very modest income who finally have the peace of mind that they can access health care when they need it and they can access it when they need it.
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and also very against a government takeover of health care. the way obama care has been projected. what they have really liked is their own ability to get a private policy through the exchange and actually be able to afford it and protect themselves and their families. >> whites and those without college degrees have been the main beneficiaries in terms of raw numbers in getting plans under obama care. the question becomes this, politically. because the policy part is too dense. you guys are going to have to accept a loss on the democratic side by this being renamed and reinstituted and, yet, it seems as though the reality of the policy may be largely the same with the one area of what to do about the mandate. politically, do you think the democrats will stomach taking that blow if it is in the interest of the american people? >> we're going to take a fight to make sure we have affordable, accessible health care for every american. we've made huge strides in this. in my home state of oregon, it's
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less than 4 million people. nearly 500,000 people gained access to health care. that's an incredible impact. we've dropped the uninsured rate enormously. we provided so much more preventive care and so many more clinics that are the front door to the system. the republicans say maybe we can do all this and we can take away the mandate and we can play a little bit over here, little over there. certainly, they want to rename things. but we are going to fight to say that health care is a fundamental right. that no one should be without it in america. it should be affordable and it should be quality for everyone. >> all right. quick beat on something else. the democrats in terms of raw numbers can't block any of donald trump, president-elect's picks for his cabinet members. what does the party expect to come of the vetting of, say, dr. ben carson, who is, obviously, a controversial pick for an
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organization cabinet position such as hud. what do you think you can get done? >> yes, we're seeing much less the team of rivals than the team of cronies. people from the very far right. people who are very wealthy. people very disconnected from the status and condition of working americans. i live in a blue collar community. i come from a working family. and so many of these individuals have been living in a bubble so far removed from working america that makes it hard to understand how trump believes that they actually can persursue the polis he think might help working america. but let's take ben carson for example. ben carson said he disqualified himself. i don't have the expertise to run an agency. he is talk about health and human services where he is a medical expert. he is taking the portfolio of housing and housing we are in deep crisis in america. we have vacancy rates that are very low in major cities and tents cities popping in our
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nation's capital and in my home state of oregon because there isn't enough affordable housing. ben carson doesn't understand there is a problem and, furthermore, he doesn't understand that there is discrimination that keeps many individuals and many minorities from getting fair access to the housing we have. he's really criticized the health and human services or not health and human services but housing for undertaking and enforcing anti-discrimination rules. >> all right. senator jeff merkley, a lot of fighting ahead. hopefully it's all in the name of had good night. we'll stay on these stories for sure. thank you for joining us. >> you're welcome. president-elect donald trump targeting america's biggest exporter, boeing. is it a smart move to take on boeing on twitter? we discuss, next. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine.
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president-elect donald trump touts his skills as a dealmaker and even before setting foot into the oval office, mr. trump is already trumpeting new deals he says will boost the u.s. economy. let's discuss with cnn global economic analyst and authors of "makers and takers" and cnni
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business correspondent and host of "quest means business" richard quest. great to see you guys. okay. so, let's talk about some of these deals. let's dive into it and you guys can tell me what these really mean. donald trump tweeted yesterday about boeing and they are making a new air force one or two new air force ones. boeing is building a brand-new 747 air force one for future presidents, but costs are out of control. more than $4 billion. cancel the order. and i just want to pull up very quickly boeing's stock dropped moments after that. you see that dip right there. that was at 9:37 a.m. minutes after he put out a tweet. >> go ahead. >> this is exactly what people said would happen if you start making policy in such a fashion at 140 characters or less. and that's exactly what happened. look, i could sit here and formulate until my heart is content at the latest policy
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direction from the new president-elect. but all it would do is take me closer to a coronary. so, instead, we have to actually look at, are we being bamboozled by these announcements of the last 24 hours? i would say in terms of the softbank announcement you were talking about this morning. >> that's a japanese technology -- >> saudi and asian conglomerate hedge fund to invest around the world. >> there's a smell test. >> what he's going to do -- >> well, i think we're going to be seeing a lot of deals with asia and state-run economies because those economies are more used to working in societies in which government and prive lt business are not separate. they kind of understand this whole one hand washes the other business. i think that's kind of what you're seeing. >> is it good? >> no. >> 50,000 jobs. why would they create 50,000 u.s. jobs? >> there is a legitimate altogether to be made for
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softbank or any to invest in u.s. technology. our most competitive industry. the japanese haven't had a category killer since the walkmans. that separate. what's concerning is let's see the facts. you know, where is this money going? it's coming in a very political way. that's what is worrisome. boeing, though, another thing that is fascinating. trump will often take a nugget of truth and embed it in something that is murkier. boeing actually has a history of cost overruns. 787 only recently made money and they had problems with all kind of supply chain issues there. >> it's good he's calling it out. >> well, it's arguably the method by which it's being done. there there's a difference betwaen dealmaking and governing. >> but the method of the sell, okay, which trump has led to his success in the corporate side, led to his success in the
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election and just made him "time" person of the year. it was just announced -- >> you came here with breaking news. >> what did i tell you about swallowing leads on our set. there is the cover, person of the year "time" magazine. it is hard to argue with the choice. >> it's impossible to argue with the choice. it's impossible to argue with what he's doing. and we shouldn't argue with it because he has been elected. which is why i come back to my point. we have to go with the smell test. and on this softbank are we being bamboozled. is it real money? will it be spent some how many jobs will be created? we may not know the answer to that for another six months to a year. but it is our job to actually remember that today softbank and yesterday they announced this. did it actually happen? >> also, they didn't really announce it. the details came from trump. we have cycles that are much
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more compressed. the carrier deal certainly a win. any families that get takeep their jobs around the holidays is a win. you have to celebrate that unless it's a misdirection play. you have the head of the carrier come out and say it's not 1,100 jobs. what you said to companies like carrier all across this country is that you would pay them to stay, even if they're still sweating more jobs than they're going to keep. >> the whole idea of tax incentives to keep jobs in a particular state worries me because that's a race to the bottom. creates a competition in which states are going to be competing for more and more tax breaks. listen, also an argument to be made for u.s. manufacturing. u.s. workers are very productive. costs are not as high as they have been in the past. but trump is not going to bring back u.s. manufacturing the way it was 20, 30 years ago. for starters, you go in any factory. i grew up in indiana and my father was in the industry.
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tech is taking a lot of jobs regardless of china. that is really a bigger issue. >> if you look at the indiana case, if you look at carrier and, you're right, almost impossible to criticize it when in the holiday times there are 1,000 or how many will have a good christmas as a result of this. but you are left with saying, the government has now moved into the position of picking winners and losers. and there's a very strong reason why historically they don't do it because it doesn't work. and it creates anomalies and distortions in the economy. >> richard, thank you very much. good to have you both. a situation you have to keep your eye on in syria. the rebels are calling for an immediate five-day truce. because the humanitarian crisis is so great there is such an emergent need for health care and first aid. we're going to take you to the front lines of that civil war next. see me. don't stare at me.
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don't start a war you know you're going to lose. finally you can now find all of netflix in the same place as all your other entertainment. on xfinity x1. syrian rebels in aleppo calling for an immediate five-day humanitarian cease-fire. they're hoping to evacuate civilians to safer areas. government forces have taken three quarters of east aleppo from the rebels. frederick has the latest from the front lines inside aleppo. fred? >> yeah, it really looks as though the rebels are crumbling in eastern aleppo, aliysn. i was in a neighborhood taken by the syrian military just last night where rebels were treated and thousands of civilians
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fleeing from that area. i could barely describe what we actually saw there. people who were malnourished and elderly people who are being carried out and a lot of babies. a lot as young as 7 days old. you can feel the momentum that the syrian government has on its side and that's also what we saw as we visited some of these areas in recent aleppo that were recently a retaken by the regime. here's what we saw. this is aleppo 24/7. shelling and air strikes raining down mostly on rebel-held areas. near the front line, it's not just syrian troops, russians and iranians battling on the government side, we meet these syrian palestinian fighters who show us what they claim was a former field hospital they found when they advanced into this area. every injured rebel would be taken here, he says. you see the medicine and blankets. this is one of their instruments
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they used. syrian pro-government forces have brought heavy weapons to the front line as they continue to push the opposition back. they showed us these homemade mortars and accused rebels of lacing them with wemicals the army says it discovered in this room close by. this alleged weapons facility is inside what used to be an elementally school in this former rebel-held district. the syrian army said it found this place when it was sweeping the area as rebels were retreating. the rebels showed no sign of letting up as syrian forces continued to pound rebel-held district. killing hundreds in the past days and leaving thousands of civilians trapped and at risk. in an interview with cnn, a syrian general says government forces will not stop unless opposition fighters withdraw. >> if he insisted to go on fighting and bombing our people in aleppo and the civilians or the army, we have to continue our mission to get the city back
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to its people. >> reporter: and what that means is plain for everyone in aleppo to see and hear. cnn, aleppo. >> fred, can you stay with us? are you in a safe enough area to hold up and talk? >> sure. >> we're also joined by lieutenant general frank in syria. let's talk about the reality. you're getting propaganda there on the ground, fred, about what they said they found and the rebels taking the city from the people. how did the people you met in aleppo feel about who was on their side? >> well, you know, i think right now, chris, most people here on the ground in aleppo feels like no one is on their side. we met a lot of people just now, literally just minutes ago fleeing some of these areas that were retaken by the syrian army where the rebels have fled and a lot said they had nothing to eat over the past couple days.
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people said most of their belongings have been destroyed. so right now these are people who are caught in between the front lines and feel the international community has abandoned them and also will feel that their government has failed them and the rebels have failed them, as well, chris. >> no question that the rebels want a breather because they're getting pounded in aleppo. it's been tough to get it to break through to the american audience. what are the long-term concerns of what happens to this population in aleppo? >> well, chris, the -- >> fred, let me get rick's take on it and i'll come right back to you. go ahead, rick. >> well, i think the city is going to fall fairly quickly. everybody knows that. the question is, what is humanitarian crisis and can it be dealt with? so far we haven't seen a whole lot of aid being poured in there by the russians and the syrians, although we see a lot of propaganda with that. so, i think the initial effect is the humanitarian concern. but the long-term effect is this
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is a real blow to the rebels and we'll see the syrians and russians emboldened and they'll continue their march. they'll pivot from aleppo and go southwest and i think the handwriting is on the wall for the rebels. this is going to be a serious setback. >> a follow up in terms of u.s. policy going forward and in terms of the emergency on the ground. fred, what are you seeing there in terms of the sustainability of daily life in aleppo for the people there? how many do you think will be left in a month whether they flee or they get caught up as a cost of this war? >> yeah, the interesting, chris, about this city of aleppo it is a city divided. in the western districts, the government held areas, people are living fairly decently. people have enough food and people have heating for their homes and i think it's really interesting hat you just mentioned the cold here. i think it's something that we often underestimate of just how cold it gets here in the winter. in the rebel-held areas and in the destroyed area, many
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different pictures. people living in tent and people who are living in ruins and bombed out houses and trying to make do there. they don't have enough material to make fire and they don't have enough food and enough water and not enough aid coming in either. the u.n. and the syrian red crescent are trying to bring in some aid. that is working to a certain extent. syrian government is providing some, as well. so are the russians. but certainly by far not enough to meet all the needs of the people who are here. and then you get to those besieged area wheres the rebels still hold territory and the situation there is absolutely catastrophic because there is no power and there is no food and the one thick that very few people talk about is medical suppli supplies. those aren't getting in and a lot of people with medical conditions and a lot of wounded people who are absolutely suffrsuf suffering, especially as it continues to get colder here. >> when you have this kind of desperation and met by no love
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and no relief and no education and opportunity, extremism takes route. we just had an election that wound up being decided on large part on fear and that fear may manifest and staying out of situations like what we're seeing with this humanitarian crisis. what is your concern for that type of policy shift, rick francona? >> i think there is going to be a policy shift, chris. and i think mr. trump alluded to that in his talk today when he talked about not going into these areas and not trying to topple different regimes. if you look at our current foreign policy in syria, it's bifurcated. we want the removal of al assad and isis. there is going to have to be a policy shift and that shift is going to be focusing on isis. even if that means talking to the russians more and coordinating with them. that will be at the expense of the rebels. i think the rebels are very concerned that they're going to be thrown under the bus in a trump administration.
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probably going to force them to coordinate more not only with themselves, but also with groups like the al qaeda-affiluted and maybe even isis. it's really becoming more unsettled, not -- there's no real solution on the horizon. i think everybody's waiting to see what happens in january. >> boy, does this sound familiar where you go in there supposedly to help and then you abandon and then you engender an entire generation of people who blame the u.s. for their despair. rick, thank you, fred, thank you for the courage and the coverage. appreciate it, brother. all right, alisyn. back here at home one member of the electoral college said he will not vote for president-elect trump. we talked to him about why, next.
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a republican member of the electoral college says he will not vote for president-elect donald trump when the votes are finally counted on december 19th. christopher suprett writes, quote, presidential electors have the legal right and constitutional duty to vote their conscious. i believe electors should unify
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behind a republican alternative, an honorable and qualified man or woman such as governor john kasich of ohio. fifteen years ago i swore an oath to defend my country and constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. i will do it again. why won't you vote for donald trump? >> well, he fails three basic tests. one, it's not sure to me he's able to defend the nation. there's clearly some ties to russia that need to be examined. there were at least 50 national security experts that came out that were all republicans during the campaign to say mr. trump would be dangerous if elected president. beyond that, he's not taken the opportunity since the election unite the country in any way. in fact, members of his transition team have been re-tweeted fake news stories that endangered a pizza shop going family just a few days ago. and then finally, we don't know what his financial conflicts of interest are. he's played fast and loose with
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the law on multiple occasions. and i think this is another example. he's the first president since president nixon to not release his taxes. and that has to be a question for people when it comes to the monuments clause and presidents profiting off the office. >> yeah, look, i hear your reservations. we have covered many of these stories, all of them, in fact, that you're talking about, but donald trump won. and this is our democratic system. he won fair and square. >> well, let's back up. the election is -- i can tell, was fair and square. mr. trump disputed that just a few days ago, which is part of the reason i came out when he and his vice president-elect came out as well to say that 3 million people voted illegally. they have yet to ask for a recount to figure out where the illegal votes are or came from. but further, the election is not over and happens on december 19th when presidential electors cast their ballots. that's when the election is complete. >> do you know of any other electors following suit? have you talked to your fellow
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electors who plan to do what you want to do? >> i am not sure of other electors specifically doing what i'm doing. i do know i've been surprised by some of the positive news i've gotten back. even last night, an elector, she -- well, i don't want to give away who it is, but he or she contacted me and said, we're in complete disagreement. i am definitely voting for trump but understand what you're doing and why if that is what your conscience is, food for you. >> you said if you plan to vote for ohio governor kasich who had run for president, but john kasich is putting out a statement saying, no, thank you. i'll read it to you. he says, i'm not a candidate for president and ask electors don't vote for me later this month. our country had an election and donald trump won. the country is divided and there are certainly raw emotions on both sides stemming from this election. but this approach, as well meaning as it is, will only serve to further divide our nation when unity is what we need.
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do you take his request to you to heart? >> well, governor kasich is certainly right on the last point. that we do need unity. and maybe i made a mistake by even naming him. i'm looking for a candidate like john kasich, i thought i put that in the op-ed. someone with executive experience. >> but who will you vote for? >> i'm in a deliberations phase. >> i see. so you were thinking about john kasich but he says no, thank you. now you're going to vote for somebody, doesn't have to be somebody who ran for president. >> another republican. again, i'm looking for someone with broad-based legislative and executive experience. someone who can understand that the office of president can't attack the constitution, can't attack journalists because he doesn't like what they publish. someone who understands he can't pick on companies because he doesn't like how they do business. there's a way we have conversations. >> yeah. you were a firefighter on september 11th.
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and you say that that experience has informed this decision. what do you mean? >> well, that week, that month in september, there were people that came out from all across the community, across the nation, really, to their fire stations. i have heard stories from people in wyoming, california, where neighbors said, hey, we might not have recognized who you were in the community but came out together. and it was a time when the country was united as one. we started to put down some of the labels of i'm wearing a red jersey and you're wearing a blue. and we came together to solve the nation's problems. >> and you think that this election blew all that up? >> well, i won't say just this election. there's been division for several years, but it's certainly been accentuated when you speak from a podium and urge violence against the protester. >> there are 538 electors as you know. so if you're the sole hold-out
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and the lone voice, i mean, you've made your point. but obviously it doesn't change anything. >> they would not. i would be an asterisk in history and have to be okay with that. but i have to be okay with my vote on december 20th. there are people out there, i know, to use the other side's example, hillary clinton -- this gentleman wasn't actually a hillary clinton voter. in california he tweeted out that he wrote in paris hilton for president and the next day said, oh, my god, the world is coming to an end. i have to put a name down on a piece of paper and want to make sure i'm comfortable with the name i place and am not just being lazy. >> understood. chris suprun, thank you for sharing your perspective with us. nice to talk to you. >> thank you for having me this morning. what is your take on this? tweet us @newday. we look forward to reading those. we are following a lot of business news, so let's get right to it.
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we build up our military, not as an act of aggression, but as an act of prevention. these terrorists can never directly destroy our way of life. but we can do it for them if we lose track of who we are. general mattis is the living embodiment of the marine corps motto. >> i'm grateful for the opportunity, as long as the congress gives me the waiver. the son of the national security adviser has been pushing a bunch of conspiracy theories. mike flynn is no long we are the transition team. >> it is time we do business differently in washington, d.c. >> it will be over $4 billion. i think boeing is throwing a little bit of a number. this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning. donald trump says he'll put america first vowing to create jobs, cut taxes and repeal obamacare.
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trump appeared at a north carolina rally and this morning he'll announce his choice of secretary of state next week. meanwhile, donald trump is touting his time at commander in chief to take up a deal with boeing. we are just 44 days from inauguration day. let's go to jessica live outside trump tower. ve >> reporter: donald trump is back in new york after hammering on the themes of unity, military strength and american jobs in north carolina yesterday. >> we will have two simple rules when it comes to rebuilding this country. buy american and hire american. >> reporter: taking his america first message to north carolina, the president-elect vowing to protect american jobs. >> we will defeat the enemy on jobs. and we have to look at it almost as

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