let's get right to it. >> this is not a partisan issue. we need to take action and we will. >> i think it's ridiculous. i don't believe it. >> mr. trump obviously knew that russia was engaged in malicious cyberactivity. >> was it just to disrupt the process or did they have an intent of helping one candidate? >> the continue ed efforts to delegitimize the election. >> it is going to stand. >> it was foreign espionage. this is not new to russia. >> dylann roof found guilty on all charges. >> one step towards justice is being done. >> he thought he was starting a race war. look at what love conquered. >> announcer: this is "new day." with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. happy friday. welcome to your new day. not only saying that we know this is about the kremlin, but we know that the russian president vladimir putin was

personally involved in hacking the united states presidential election. and that those hacks have not stopped. president obama says that the united states will take action before he leaves office. >> these developments widening the rift between the white house and donald trump's transition team. we have every angle covered for you starting with evan perez who is here with us live. evan, you have been out front reporting all of this. tell us the latest. >> we know that russian spy agencies deployed sophisticated hacking tools, the kind used by the nsa to break into u.s. political organizations in the past year. u.s. officials tell cnn that this is part of the reason why intelligence officials believe that russian president vladimir putin ordered the disinformation that targeted mostly democratic party groups and hillary clinton's presidential campaign. they have not found direct evidence linking back to putin but officials believe because of the nature of the operation he

would have to had to the orders on what to do with the stolen e-mails. in recent weeks, they have collected more evidence including from human sources to back up their assessments first made in october that only the most senior members could have ordered the operation. and the hacking hasn't stopped. law enforcement sources tell cnn that the fbi is now investigating hacking attempts after the election targeting clinton campaign staffers. a campaign official tells cnn that they received security notices as recently as last week indicating attempts to get into their private e-mail accounts. now, officials say that despite the russian expectations of better relations with the incoming trump administration, they expect that the russian hacking activity is going to continue largely unabated. chris? >> evan, thank you very much. appreciate it. we know you'll stay on this story. president obama now vowing to fight back against russia. why now? what not sooner? what is the real truth about the state of play? we may get some answers when he speaks with reporters later today.

but right now let's bring in cnn suzanne malveaux live at the white house. what is the messaging about? we know evan advanced this story about why the white house says they didn't jump on this sooner when they first new. but why the urgency now? >> well, chris, we are going to hear from the president later today and, of course, he is going to talk about the retaliation against russia that this is very important that there is a strong u.s. response. the president in an interview with npr said it was back in september, that is when he actually confronted vladimir putin at a g-20 summit in china confront him about this hacking saying it would not be tolerated. it was in october it become public when intelligence analystsanalyst s pointed to russia publicly saying a proportional response. >> i think there is no doubt that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our elections that we need to

take action. and we will. at a time and place of our own choosing. some of it may be explicit and publicized. some of it may not be. but mr. putin is well aware of my feelings about this because i spoke to him directly about it. >> the president is not giving a timetable, but it is very clear that he wants something to happen before he leaves office. there are a number of options on the table. could be public or private shaming of russia of vladimir putin which already seems to have been done. could also be economic sanctions or even some cybersecurity threat of our own. but it is expected that there is going to be a lot of tough questions this afternoon about some of those details. >> suzanne, thanks so much for previewing that. the back and forth between donald trump and the white house is turning national security into a political football. cnn's sara murray is here with the latest. what have you learned, sara in. >> good morning, alisyn.

all these warm, fuzzy feelings in the beginning between the obama administration and coming trump administration having some riffs. a week of russia revelations and donald trump's denials creating a rift between incoming and outgoing administrations. >> this foolish guy josh earnest. >> reporter: the president-elect taking shots at president obama's press secretary. >> he is so bad the way he delivers their message. he can deliver a positive message and it sounds bad. he could say, ladies and gentlemen, today we have totally defeated isis and it wouldn't sound good. >> reporter: lashing out after the white house sharply criticized trump's continued dismissal about moscow's election meddling. >> mr. trump obviously knew that russia was engaged in cyberactivity that was helping

him and hurting senator clinton's campaign. >> he's not positive and, i mean, maybe he's getting his orders from somebody else. >> reporter: russia putting a strain on the roller coaster relationship between trump and obama. the two attempting a show of unity for a smooth transition after a bitter campaign. now, tensions rising between the camps. fueled in part by trump's tweet accusing the white house of only complaining about the hacking after hillary clinton lost. but, in fact, in early october the intelligence community was saying they were "confident russia was behind the dnc hacks." clinton herself addressing the hacking for the first time since the election. telling donors that russian president vladimir putin's attack against h. this as john podesta a scathing rebuke of the fbi's handling of the hacks. writing in "the washington post" when the fbi discovered the russian attack in september 2015, it failed to send even a

single agent to warn senior democratic national committee officials. adding something is deeply broken at the bureau. podesta's criticism echoed by outgoing senate minority leader harry reid. >> i think it's about time that comey acknowledged publicly what a disservice he's rendered to our country by doing nothing. nothing except interfering with the election. he became such a partisan that he should become the new chair of the rnc. >> now, both sides are going to try to put politics aside today and assure the smooth transition of power and there is going to be a summit at the white house for chiefs of staff that will have incoming chief of staff reince priebus as well as mcdonough and mayor rahm emanuel who was president obama's first chief of staff. elijah cummings. good to see you, sir. >> good seeing you all. >> so, i don't know, but i

suspect that the president-elect was watching "new day" this morning hearing us talk about the hacks during the election and the intelligence communities believe that they see the fingerprint and marks of russian influence on those processes. and he pointed out in a tweet, we talking about the same hacks where someone at cnn gave a debate question to hillary clinton? now, his intention is clear. he wants the focus on the substance of what was leaked and not who was behind the hacking. his other political point, congressman, is the white house knew and did nothing. why, if it's such a big deal and they were so sure it was russia, did they do nothing? fair question. >> yeah. well, keep in mind and it's been reported on your show this morning several times that back on october 17th, the president did issue a statement.

it just so happened with regard to the russian hacking. it just so happened that it came out the same day that the billy bush tape came out. so, it got kind of snowed under. but let's -- we need to pea vbe clear on this. i think we're getting distracted. i've been listening to a lot of news broadcasts. the fact is that there has been hacking by the russians. we're clear on that. it goes up to the highest levels of the russian government. we're clear on that. and this is like as the former cia director said, this is like a 9/11 for us. and we should be addressing it in a very serious and must be an independent way. that's why congressman have put forth the legislation to make this more of a 9/11 type commission to actually look at what is going on. chris, i have said it for weeks

that this is a struggle for the soul of our democracy. we're seeing all of our institutions being attacked. even our election system, the fbi, the cia. and, so, there is a real crisis of legitimacy. but more -- just as significant our election process has been the fact that we need to address it in an independent way. we have no time, we have no time for partisanship here. >> the transparency will help, if you guys hold hearings. the intel community. if you can get past that and people get more of an understanding of the sum and substance, i think you'll see the two sides coming together. the issue of transparency takes us to another question you're dealing with. no real issue as to whether or not the president-elect and his kids have present conflicts of interest at play. they do. they have the trump organization

and now you have the president-elect with stewardship of the country. and you have his kids who work in the government will have the same problem. the question is what to do about it. what do you want? >> well, the thing i want, first of all, is to do what both republican and democratic experts have said. that donald trump has to divest himself of his interests. >> is that fair? >> put them in a blind trust. >> you can't put them in a blind trust because they're not just simple securities, congressman. if he sells them, he's selling them under hardship and time pressure could affect their value and could have opportuni t opportunists buy them. seems like a tough solution. >> it's a tough situation. when we go into government, we go into government knowing we have to make major sacrifices. he knew, he ran for president. he bragged about running for president.

he talked about the fact that he wasn't worried about money and now it's time for him to govern. so, we cannot have the president of the united states sitting in meetings with his kids who are also his transition assistants and running his business sitting in, for example, the other day with the tech industry folk. you can't do that. i mean, there's another piece to this. keep in mind, chris, he's got at least 111 companies operating in 18 countries. and, so, he knew all of this when he went into it. >> except the voters -- but the voters say, yeah, we knew, too. and he won. is there an implied acceptance of these conflicts as they exist and then as long as he's open about it and you know what he has and where, then you move forward on good faith basis. >> well, you know what, chris, you just said the right words. >> finally.

>> we know what he has. we don't. that is the point. he does not -- we don't know -- he will not turn over his tax returns and we don't have a clue to what he has. we don't have a clue of all the conflicts that are facing us. keep in mind, remember what i said a few minutes ago. we're talking about a question of legitimacy of our institutions. here you're going to have the president making decisions on all kinds of issues. we do know that he's gotten a lot of russian money because he couldn't get certain loans here in the united states. so, disproportionate amount of money is coming from russia. we know that. it's not just russia, it's all over the world. he knew this. he knew this when he came into it. come on, chris. >> talk about the, boiled down it means getting paid for things when you're in office, which you're not supposed to do.

politco reported on what they call a mock corruption hearing to try an oversight hearing that you were behind. what do you want to do here and how far are you willing to go? >> what i want to do is make the american people know that we are in crisis mode. and that we are fighting for our democracy. and i want them to understand the fact that president-elect trump has a duty to us as americans. he's no longer an employee of trump enterprises. he is an employee of the people of the united states of america. and there are certain rules that come along with that. and there's certain things that we want to accomplish and that is we want to do away with, as best we can, not only the conflicts of interest, but the appearances of conflict of interests. because we want to know when he makes decisions anywhere that is not just to line his pockets or a major incentive for him to do

those deals. so, i mean he has to be, you talk about transparency. no. things have not been as transparent as they need to be. i think the electors are right. the ones who have asked for more information. i think they should have it immediately after all their duty is to deliberate. what are they deliberating over. what he has asked for and more information. all of that is important. but the american people need to know what we are dealing with and who we're dealing with. >> congressman cummings, i appreciate this. this is going to go on for a while. so, we'll keep the conversation going. thank you for being on "new day." early christmas wishes to you and the family. >> same exact to you. >> alisyn? mr. trump's choice for israel ambassador has many controversial plans and ideas. so, "new york times" columnist and author thomas friedman will weigh in on that and much more when we see him next. i take to the open road.

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bankruptcy lawyer and already vowing to move the u.s. embassy to jerusalem. this thing that has a lot of roots in history and in politics. joining us now from washington is "new york times" columnist and author of "thank you for being late" thomas friedman must be noted you won a bupulitzer prize for the situation in israel and the politics around it. what is your take on this choice? >> it's sheer madness, i mean, to have someone who has referred to jews who support a two-state solution is equivalent of jews who collaborated with the nazis in concentration camps. talking about shimon perez and well more than half of israel still believe in a two-state solution. i believe israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu is still on record of supporting a two-state solution. so, to appoint someone that

extreme, well, i could tell you this, chris, he will be the first american prime minister to the state of israel palestine. if you're against the two-state solution, you're for a binational state. >> let's talk a little bit more about that. his name is david friedman. no relation to you. >> no relation. >> he goes further. he has a lot of controversial ideas. not only is he not a fan. an enemy of the two-state solution, he wants to move the embassy from tell tel aviv to jerusalem. what do you see happening if and when he becomes ambassador? >> he didn't create the idea of moving the capital to jerusalem. this has been out there ignored or passed on by three presidents. what is the issue here? >> we can continue, the united states position is that the ultimate disposition of jerusalem remains to be negotiated by the two sides.

and until it is, we're going to keep our embassy in tel aviv. now, moving the american embassy. this is everyone tosses this out, no one actually does it. moving the embassy from jerusalem to tel aviv and between israelis and palestinians, i would call that the full employment for iran act. i can tell you, chris, the iranians, they would be clinking glasses over that. what the iranians would then do is make a huge issue of this. paint the americans as a pro, basically fanatical right-wing supporter of the worst kind in israel. that would then embarrass all the sunni arab regimes and they would have to do something. complicating israel's relations with them and also with their relations with us. this would put egypt and saudi arabia in a very awkward

position. i can tell you the iranians right now. i mean, they would be sending love letters to david friedman. >> okay. those are stark words. so, let's move on to russia. >> let's move on. >> let's move on. there it is. let's move on to russia. >> this is such madness that it's just -- i can't believe we're talking about it. >> where are you with the meddling of russia? what do you think -- president obama has now said he will respond. what is the right response to this? >> well, the right response at the time should have been -- i would argue a cyberresponse and a diplomatic and sanctions response. you know, the president of the united states, whether it's barack obama or donald trump, you know, puts their hand on the bible and promises to protect, preserve and defend the constitution. the constitution enshrines our democratic election process. russia has attacked that process. we are told by the director of national intelligence and by the

president. and it seems to me that is an attack on the very core institution of our country. it should have been responded to by obama at the time. no questions asked. and the fact that donald trump now the president-elect doesn't even want to get a briefing from the national director of intelligence admiral clapper on this who is one of the finest public servants i met in washington, d.c. the fact that he doesn't want to sit down and hear the facts and just dismisses them is can deeply disturbing. >> is there any blame here, well, i can't ask it that way. there is blame. how much blame is there to be put on the white house and on the political left for putting trump into a position where acknowledging the kremlin/putin role in these tasks is acknowledging hat they suethat the outcome of the election. no real proof this made a

difference in the election. is the politics really overcoming the -- >> i can't answer that question, chris. >> you must. >> i can't. i'm not here to speak for the left or the right. all i know is as an american citizen i want to know all the facts. if our national director of intollgeni intelligence is saying that russia hacked our election, i personally think donald trump is president. he won. i am not in a position to say this swayed anything left or right. but russia hacking our elections, that is a direct threat at the core of our dem democra democracy. it should be something that the sitting president should have responded to and it is something that the incoming president should be appalled by and demanding right now to come to washington, have a full briefing by the people who know the facts in the fbi and the cia. and the fact that he doesn't do that, that he won't ask for the facts that he's trying to delegitimize our intelligence agencies is appalling because

when he becomes president and a month or six months later and we suddenly discover that north korea has developed an intercontinental missile that could develop a weapon to california. then president has to act on intelligence and who knows what implications and what would be the side effects against a country like north korea. the intelligence community told me this. who is going to believe him? >> tom, stick around, if you would. many more questions for you. we want to talk about the cabinet picks that mr. trump has already put out there. so, stick around for that. also, we're live in charleston where a jury needed just two hours to render their guilty verdict on the church shooter dylann roof. we have reaction coming up. that's me.

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donald trump putting together a cabinet that he boasts will be the best ever. so, how do his picks and approach stack up so far? let's ask "new york times" columnist and author of the new book "thank you for being late."

thomas friedman. we'll get to your book in a minute because we want to talk about some of your concepts in there. a picture of the cabinet as it has shaped up thus far. obviously, a lot of white men in this cabinet. five women thus far. you call this cabinet prehistoric. what does that mean? >> i was referring not to the whole cabinet, i was referring to the fact that all the appointments who are involved with energy and environmental issues have professed denialism or skepticism on climate change. which takes them to pre-george w. bush. i don't know where it takes them. maybe back to teddy roosevelt. the george w. bush administration actually had some really fine people on energy and environment. and he, himself, in this 2007 state of the union said climate change was a serious issue that we had to address. this is a throwback to i don't know where. >> that dovetails with the book. we can do all these friedmanisms

all at once. you have written a book "the world is flat" and "thank you for being late." we had multiple conversations on this show where people justifying trump's picks when it comes to global warming say the following. hey, science gets it wrong, brother. these predictions are wrong. they used to think the world was flat. so, now they say it's heating up. who knows if man has anything to do with it. i'm open. i'm not saying i know, but it's not a settled science can go bo. we hear it all the time. your reaction. >> so, chris, i think it's perfectly excusable to want to ask to see the facts and to ask questions. ask hard questions about where the signs are on climate change exist. but, you know what, we have the two greatest bodies of climate scientists in the world in the u.s. government. and the u.s. government that donald trump will soon lead as president. it's called nasa and noaa, the

national ocean administration. all donald trump has to do is ask for a briefing by the world's greatest climate scientists for whom he will soon be the boss and say tell me the facts. he told us at "the new york times" that he is open. if you are open, then why not consult the people who know the facts. it goes back to the cia point. rather than sit there and say this is a silly nonsense, why not sit down with the people who have the facts and question them and ask very hard questions. i'm all for that. >> one of the things that his cabinet picks and transition team have told us when they have come on about this is until somebody can definitively tell us if we're five years away from catastrophe or 500, we're not going to ruin people's livelihoods that are in, say, the fuel industry. what is the response to that? >> you know, the best response is to look at the pictures from beijing and new delhi. in case people haven't noticed,

people there can't breathe. new delhi shut down a coal plant because the pollution there has gotten so intense and what does that tell you? it tells you that the next great global industry is going to be around clean air and clean power. when the two most populated countries in the world are barreling down that path themselves because they can't breathe. we should invest in coal while the next great global export industry is going to be clean air, clean water and efficiency. technologies. oh, technology, wait a minute, that's our specialty. let's give that up and let's go back to digging coal. like how mad is that? >> what it does is it appeases part of the manufacturing base of labor who was in that business who've seen their jobs go away and looking -- >> so many more people involved in making solar panels, building efficient systems and building green buildings than are digging coal. would you want your kids to go back digging coal? >> true. at this point, i'd like my kids

to do anything that brings money into my household than taking it out of it. let me ask you another question that dovetails with what is in the latest book. you point out 2007 is the big year for tom friedman. that is one we should look back on. it seems innocuous from the outside. why was 2007 so big? >> what i point out, thank you for being late, in 2007 a whole bunch of things came together. the iphone came out in 2007. get hub the world's biggest software open source platform was started that year. airbnb was started that year, android was started that year. intel went up silicon for the first time in 2007. 2007, i think in time, will be understood as one of the greatest technological inflection points in history. unfortunately, we missed it because of 2008. so, right when our physical

technologies suddenly sped up faster than ever. we were on a moving sidewalk that went from five miles an hour to 35 miles an hour. because we went in 2008 to the worst recession since 1929, a lot of the social technologies we needed to go with that to help people adapt and adjust to this acceleration, they froze. and, chris, we're living now in that disjunction. think what happens between 2007 and 2008 to a lot of mitdal class people. because of 2007 machine software start devouring white collar and blue collar jobs faster than ever. and in 2008 people lose their mortgages and the combination of those two things together, i think, really produced the tea party and a lot of the anger and frustration that help propel donald trump into the oval office. >> tom, also the concept in this is something that i totally relate to which is that life is moving so much faster now. it's this diz aezying pace betw

information overload and all of that. and, you know, that's just where we are. i don't know if there is anything to do about it. but you have a suggestion or a remedy, i guess. and a part called anchoring which, of course, we relate to since that is our career. what can you do if you feel disoriented and dizzy? >> well, you know, what i really argue is that the proper governing unit for the 21st century is what i call the healthy community. the single family is too weak. the federal government is too slow to adapt. that's why i tell everybody my book has a theme song. i wish i bought it so when you open the book and play a song like a hallmark card plays happy birthday. it's eye. i wrap my love around you like a chain, but i never was afraid it would die. you can dance in a hurricane, but only if you're standing in the eye. and i think the accelerations i point to in the book around technology, globalization and

mother nature climate. they're like a hurricane. we are politicians who want to build a wall against those winds of change. i understand it. but i think the proper governing unit and the way to respond is an eye that moves with this storm and draws energy from it but creates a platform of dynamic stability within it where people can feel protected and respected. that is a healthy community where people have to focus their attention on the local level. i think the political struggle in our country and around the world now going forward is going to be between the wall people and the eye people and my book is a manifesto for the eye people. >> well, it's a great read. thank you for being late and we like that message of doing something in your local community to slow down your life. thomas friedman, thanks so much for being on "new day." >> really appreciate it. thanks for having me. >> i have no respect for tardiness. thank you, tom. come back soon. charleston church shooter

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dylann roof now faces a life and death battle this time for his own life, not those that he decided to take. a jury convicted him for taking the lives of nine people. south carolina jury now in january is going to have to meet to decide to take his life as justice. nick valencia, more on what lies ahead and the reaction to what just happened. this wasn't a tricky legal situation, but it is going to be a big, emotional situation now, nick. >> the guilty verdict was not a surprise to anyone who was in that courtroom yesterday morning, chris. i was standing directly behind dylann roof as the guilty verdict was read out loud watching him, my eyes trained on him because for much of the trial he was emotionless. this was the most expression we saw out of him. his ears turning red as that

guilty verdict count after count read out loud guilty. just off to my right, the members of the family of the victims, family members, some bowing their heads in prayer and others wiping tears from their eyes. it was six days of emotional testimony, two hours of deliberation for those jurors to find him unanimously guilty. throughout the trial, perhaps the most emotional moment came yesterday during the prosecution's closing arguments. without warning they showed a picture of the bloody bodies the worshippers lying on the ground there in the bible study. some family members caught off guard by that. i spoke to one of the family members, she said to me afterwards she believed the jurors needed to see that photo to understand the gravity of what dylann roof had committed. she also said something very interesting to me. she was very conflicted on whether dylann roof should get the death penalty. the next phase starts on january

3rd when those jurors will have to decide if he should be put to death. >> nick, thank you for that reporting. an oklahoma police officer jumps into action after a desperate family begs for help. cnn stephanie elum has this week's beyond the call of duty. >> reporter: just after midnight on halloween. police officer jordan jones is parked along a highway when a pickup truck speeds past him and hazard lights flashing. >> you could tell when he got out of the truck, he was frantic. >> reporter: tina custelo awoke complaining of tightness in her chest. >> we need to go to the hospital now. >> reporter: they live out in the country. >> i had to make a decision to wait for an ambulance to arrive from a long distance or get her on the road. >> reporter: along with daughter, brittany, they hit the road. 20 miles from home tina's face turns purple. >> i was panicked. the woman you love is completely unresponsive and you're about halfway between home and the hospital.

>> reporter: he's racing to where there's usually a police cruiser. officer jones is there. >> female not breathing, unconscious. trying to start cpr. >> did you think it was too late at that point? >> yes, i did. >> she's gone! >> no, she's not. >> she's got a weak pulse. >> reporter: for two tense minutes officer jones performed cpr. >> i want you to give her two breaths. okay. >> come on, baby. >> reporter: then a sign of life. >> she's breathing. take a breath, come on. >> reporter: tina is moved to an ambulance. emotional, jeff and brittany thank officer jones. >> thank you. >> puts his big arm around me and says it's going to be all right, buddy. >> what did you think when you watched the video? >> i just cried.

i just cried. i just love officer jones. he's an angel. he's a true angel. >> reporter: the doctor operated on tina as soon as she got to the hospital. one of her arteries was 90% blocked. would she had lived if it was not for the intervention of officer jones? >> i don't think she would have. starting the cpr when he did greatly improved her chance of survival. >> he is a hero. he did everything he could. >> he didn't just save tina's life, he saved our family. >> every night i go out to make a difference in somebody's lives and it's just a night i won. >> reporter: stephanie elum, cnn, oklahoma. >> brave men and women going beyond the call every day to save people's lives. >> what an angel. i'm so glad we bring you those stories. now, big political story and big story of policy relevance. is russia the putin, the kremlin, however you want to

term it. they had a hand in what happened in the u.s. elections. it's creating a geopolitical mess. the question is, what is going to happen in this standoff over what we know and over what we don't know. national security is getting lost in politics. fareed zakaria comes in with some really deep perspective, next. afoot and light-hearted i take to the open road. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.

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global hot spots. how will a president trump handle them differently than we're seeing right now with president obama. cnn's far he'd zakaria is here to break it down. always great to have you here value added. one of the ways that is different is you have president obama embracing the intelligence from our government and saying we know that russia's fingerprints, putin's, the kremlin, are all over what happened here. trump says i don't believe it. now his motivations may be, in part -- at least in part political. but i have to tell you, from the outside, when they say trust us, we know, trust is at an all-time low of every institution. it doesn't sound compelling. we know how. don't worry about it. it's not compelling to the american audience right now. in its entirety. >> you're exactly right. and it's the problem with intelligence. and there are two problems here. one, intelligence officials are very slow to reveal sources and thotds. the more they tell you about how they have come to this conclusion, the more russia

finds out what it is that they are able to determine or not. and the second is, this is not like legal evidence. you know, the nature of intelligence is it's all speculative, circumstantial. think about that moment when the intel community tells obama, we think we have bin laden. they say, president obama says that they told him it was a 50/50 case. now think about what a 50/50 case. we now know that they -- statisticians were saying it was 60/40, 65/35 that hillary would win. it doesn't mean that the 35% chance can't happen. so all of intelligence has that quality. what is striking, though, and you talk to the intelligence officials who studied this seriously, there's a pattern here. this is not an isolated event. the russians started doing this years ago in georgia, in ukraine, in germany. german intelligence chief points out the russians in very similar ways tapped into german

parliamentarians accounts. very similar methods. very similar groups that they used. very similar conduits. and it's always the same full spectrum operation. hacking, trolling, counterespionage. so, the pattern is quite compelling. and frankly, what i think president-elect trump should do is, since he's getting bored of his intelligence briefings, tell them give me an intelligence briefing for, you know, one hour, explaining the best case you have for why this is russia. >> hmm. let's move on to president-elect trump's pick for u.s. ambassador to israel, david friedman, controversial. he is an enemy of the two state solution. what do we know about him? what -- if he becomes ambassador, what does this mean for u.s./israel relations and palestinian relations and everything? >> look, he is very hard-line he is somebody, who as you said, believes the two-state solution would be entirely appropriate

for israel to annex the west bank. these are positions no u.s. administration, republican or democrat, has ever held, since 1967. since these territories were de facto annexed. the united states has never said that they recognize the legitimacy of those annexations. he's also had some very tough things to say about left leaning jews as i puts it and has likened them to the jews who assisted in the holocaust. i mean it's a really incendiary accusation. particularly given that most jews in america left, 75% for the democratic party generally. so tough to see it as a healing moment. but at the end of the day, israel is the power on the ground. they will decide whether they're going to make peace or not. the palestinians have no power. they have no leverage. they just have the reality that they live, you know, under israeli occupations without having political rights. >> so why pick him? what's your thinking about it?

we know his obvious connection to trump is he's a bankruptcy lawyer and worked with him on his casino problems in atlantic city. how do you get from there to he's the right face for america in this very turbulent time? >> well, the question answers itself. it doesn't -- it strikes me as a very odd choice. it's possible you could make the case that this is a nixon going to china moment but if he wants to make peace it's a way to reassure the israelis that he's serious -- he is committed to their security, and then he will pivot from that to try to find a path to a two-state solution. i think it's more this was a friend, perhaps, you know, we don't know but maybe some of the, you know, his son-in-law is active in the jewish community. maybe there's something that it's difficult to see how you get from here to a diplomatic solution. >> there are so many hot spots around the world right now. i mean, syria unfolding. you know, russia, what's going

on in -- with china and what they're doing. the president-elect is inheriting a very, very complicated, heated world from president obama. what are you keeping your eyes on? >> i think, actually, on many fronts president obama is leaving him a pretty good legacy. relations with china are good. we have a good strategic dialogue. the most important piece of the asia policy that would be -- that would deter china and keep china in check frankly is the trans-pacific partnership. that is the thing when i go to asia that is what they want. the asian countries say to the united states stay in asia and set up this alternative, in a sense, to china because otherwise we're all alone here. and we can't counter china. so it's odd that -- that trump has come out so strongly against tpp and yet wants to counter china because the asian countries say that is the principle way you block china. on russia they have a disagreement, probably going to

have to figure out what is his russia policy because russia is blocking american interests in many areas. there are areas where it could cooperate. but what does he want to do under ukraine? does he really want to sell out ukraine? does he want to sell out the security of poland to make some deal with vladimir putin? who by the way he's never met. so the idea that they can -- they'll get on famously and do work together, you know, it's all guesswork at this point. and trump is a guy for whom first impressions matter. so that first meeting will be fascinating. syria is a big problem. president obama has had no solution to the syria problem. and he has in a sense punted on some of the crucial decisions. the most important one is, are you going to accept the reality that assad is winning in syria. >> always great to have you here on "new day." thanks so much. >> thank you. we're following a lot of news on this friday. let's get to it. there's only one decisionmaker and that is putin. >> hacking tools could only

point to the highest levels of government. >> republican nominee himself calling on russia to hack his opponent. >> this foolish guy, josh earnest, having the right press secretary is so important. >> we're going to hit you and hit you hard. >> sanctions, not something that the administration's going to lead with. >> when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our elections we need to take action, and we will. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning, everyone. welcome to your "new day." it is friday, december 16th. 8:00 in the east. the kremlin telling the white house to prove that russia hacked u.s. presidential election, or to drop the issue. this as we're learning u.s. intel points to russia vez vladimir putin being involved in the ongoing hack. >> the intrigue is that the president-elect is saying the same thing. and it's creating tension between the u.s., russia, and also between the current administration and the future. one. we have every angle covered for you starting with cnn justice

correspondent evan perez here with us this morning. you were in front of the news that the white house knew that russia was behind these hackings and did not act from as far back in july. >> that's right, chris. we're learning that russians deployed sophisticated hacking tools to break into u.s. political organizations in the past year. u.s. officials tell cnn that it's part of the reason why intelligence officials believe that russian president vladimir putin ordered the disinformation operation that targeted mostly democratic party groups and hillary clinton's presidential campaign. investigators haven't found any evidence directly linking back to putin but officials believe that because the nature of the operation he would have had to give orders to do what to do with these stolen e-mails. now in recent weeks, intelligence agencies have directed more evidence, including from human sources to back up their assessment. first in october that only this most senior members of the russian government could have ordered this operation.