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german authorities under scrutiny this morning amid the search for their country's most wanted man. anis amri. the fugitive walking free despite concerns about his connections to extremism. . >> one of the questions we're going to be sifting through to make sure that we understand how german intelligence failed to intercept this particular radicalized individual. >> reporter: amri a native tunisian arrived in germany a year and a half ago, his father telling a radio show that his son headed to cologne after spending four years in an italian prison. italian authorities say he was convicted of damaging state property, assault, and arson in september 2011. but they note he was considered a petty criminal. in germany he was quickly placed under surveillance believed to be in touch with radical islamists. in june his request for asylum in germany was denied. even as he was unable to return to his native tunisia, because he didn't have a valid passport. two months later amri was arrested after being caught with fake papers but released.
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still considered a risk by authorities with known links to a radical preacher. >> the germans are a very good service and they're going to put all of their resources to find this person and this killer and bring him to justice. >> reporter: now police warning amri could be violent and armed, offering an over $100,000 reward for any information leading to his arrest. after finding his i.d. in the truck that killed 12 and injured nearly 50 this monday. authorities believe amri is part of an extensive extremist network inside germany recruiting for isis. authorities say the ring leader of this network is this man, arrested in november on terrorism charges. so who dropped the ball here? or were german authorities' hands tied? that's what they're going to have to tell us or figure out. in the meantime, the streets are coming back to normal here,
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alisyn. we've got the christmas market here that just reopened. the lights are on. the shops are open. but it looks very, very different today. you've got heavy concrete blocks all around this market that were just laid this morning. and you've got a lot of police with weapons, with guns. it looks very different than it did just a few days ago. >> okay, chris, thank you for all of that reporting. we do have some breaking news now so let's get to cnn terrorism analyst paul cruickshank as well as phil mudd. paul, what have you just learned? >> well, we have obtained sections of a 345-page investigative file into this so-called abu wallah network, the radical isis recruiting network in germany to which this suspect belonged. the suspect mentioned several times in the file, and most notably discussed that the file talks about him discussing attacks inside germany. there was a place informant providing investigators with
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details, and he told the investigators that this suspect, months before the attack, launching abeing tos inside germany, and had been supported in that wish by senior members of this network who provided him with some lodgings inside germany. these extraordinary investigative files also reveal that according to the police informant other members of the network discussed launching truck attacks inside germany, to load those trucks with gasoline, with bombs, and drive them into crowds. german investigators, jemplen security services, aware of all of this before the attack. and so many, many questions now for why these warning signals were not heeded, and how this
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attack was able to get through. the investigative files also reveal that a senior member of this isis recruiting network, a german serbian tried to help the alleged perpetrator of the berlin truck attack to leave the country in late 2015 or early 2016. so these are really quite explosive new details about this alleged attacker wanting to launch an attack months before the actual attack itself, and that the germans being fully aware of this. >> so, phil, let's bounce it back to the united states. would that have happened here? you know, is there a different bar here for when you hold somebody based on their chatter and their affiliations? a couple questions chris, first is the question of numbers. one of the challenges you have, one of the challenges in the intelligence business is resources.
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every case involves people, wiretaps, money. so the question when you're dealing with numbers is who gets over the bar to spend those resources. to answer your question, from the american perspective, we have two characteristics here. one, an individual who was in contact with a known terrorist network that went down in november in arrests. two, an individual who evidently was talking about a violent attack. in the american context with the fewer numbers we're dealing with compared to europe that would be a serious case. in my world, that merits application of resources, including things like putting an informant on him and potentially listening to his phone. that's a high-end case. >> paul, there was some reporting that as we know, before this guy made it to germany, he was in italy. he was in jail there, for four years. because of assault, arson -- >> -- of a school. >> right, vandalism. and the italian authorities, and maybe the german authorities based on what you're saying, tried to send him back to tunisia. but tunisia didn't want to take him.
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so -- >> that's right. i mean essentially the tunisian said not our problem, alisyn. and we're not able to furnish the germans with the necessary proof that he was actually a particular individual with a particular identity. and then for both the italians, and the germans, they were in a kind of catch-22 situation, because they couldn't really prove that he was anybody in particular. and how do you possibly have legal proceedings against somebody you don't even know who they are? >> well two questions, the first is what are you hearing from your sources about how they're explaining this to themselves about how it got through? and what are they learning about this idea that this wasn't a one-off? that this may have been part of multiple plots and attacks around the holidays? >> here's the reality. security services have to prioritize. and so they clearly went after who the members of this cell they felt were the most dangerous, the senior leaders.
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they've got them into custody. that was a big success for the german security service a few weeks ago. but some of the foot soldiers in all of this were not brought into custody. case not yet kind of built up against them, and so, the problem was, the cause of this likely prioritization, there were other dangerous people that were still at large. so, i think that's one of the realities facing security services in europe right now, at a time when they're overstretched. >> phil, do you have any sense of how many people we're talking about? how many people are at large? how many people are taxing the security services? dozens? hundreds? >> if you're talking about western europe, you're talking about hundreds into thousands. and again that's in stork contrast to the united states. we talk about threat in america. when i was in the business, and even today, talking to my friends and european security services, we sit on much less threat than they do. so, if you look at europe, hundreds of thousands, and each of those cases alisyn, you've
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got two choices as an intelligence professional. you can put an informant up against them or you can listen to the wires. that is things like phone calls and e-mails. behind each of those cases you've got to have somebody do the technical work. you have to have the lawyers file the documents. you have to have analysts analyze the data. and you have to have an investigator in the field running that informant. boy, that's 10, 20, 30 people per case. so you can see going back to paul's point why some of these cases don't happen. you cannot follow hundreds of people at a time with that level of resource commitment. it's not going to happen. le. >> it also shows what happens when you get one wrong, as phil often tells us, they only have to get it right once. you've got to get it right every time. gentlemen, thank you very much. we'll check back with you if anything changes in this investigation. appreciate it. president-elect trump is making big promises. he says he's going to take care of isis, and quickly. he says that what we're seeing in berlin is proof that we need some kind of ban. two new names were just added to his administration in an effort to boost the economy.
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we're going to talk about all these developments that are going on with his newly appointed kellyanne conway special counselor right now. let's bring in cnn senior washington correspondent jeff zeleny live at trump's mar-a-lago resort in palm beach, florida. we've got you with the reporting. and we've got kellyanne coming up to give us some answers. >> good morning, chris. donald trump making his first comments on that german attack, calling it an attack on humanity. that was after he had his first intelligence briefing of the week yesterday right here at mar-a-lago. but this morning, chris, we are getting a clearer sense of his economic policy, his economic vision, particularly on trade. he's going to have a new counsel of trade in the white house, which is going to be led by peter navarro. peter navarro is a hard-line critic of china. he is an economics professor at u.c. irvine and donald trump took a lot of his ideas to the campaign trail as part of his america first agenda.
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now, carl icahn, the new york billionaire investor, also will be joining this administration in terms of overseeing regulatory reform. those are two key names we're getting. we're also learning that the trump transition team is exploring the idea of taking an early executive action on foreign imports. imposing a 5%, perhaps tariff on any foreign imports coming into the u.s. now that is going to create quite an issue in washington. pro-trade republican groups, the chamber of commerce, congressional leaders in the house and senate republicans are opposed to this idea. so that could be one of the early bites there. and that is one of the things that kellyanne conway, in her new position as counselor to the president, she'll be working specifically in the west wing, going from campaign manager to counselor, donald trump just announced that a short time ago here. so that is a key position here. now only two more cabinet positions left to fill. then this team is pretty much
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complete. 29 days from today, he takes office. >> jeff, thank you very much. so as jeff just reported kellyanne conway has a new role. we will speak to her live, next. the world is full of surprising moments.
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we are jewelers. the one, unique gift... ...that tells her exactly how you feel. that's why he went to jared. president-elect donald trump officially naming his former campaign manager kellyanne conway as his white house counselor. she joins us now with the latest on the transition team's plans. congratulations to you, kellyanne conway. >> thank you, chris.
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>> so, what does this mean? counselor. you've taken on a reputation as the grand master of communicating and spin for the trump team. what will you do as counselor? >> well, the portfolio will be whatever the president wants it to be. but it will -- is likely to include communications, and is likely to include data and strategy. but, the rest will be up to him. i'm just really pleased and frankly very humbled, chris, to take on this role in the west wing, near the president, and be supportive of the senior team that he already has in place, colleagues of mine that i've worked together very closely with throughout the campaign and the transition. and i think it's incredibly important to be a cohesive team. >> mm-hmm. >> counselors and advisers who very much believe in this man's agenda and know he's going to do many great things very quickly as president. >> let's talk about what he's going to do quickly. let's put your messaging skills to the test. we saw what happened in berlin. the president-elect says it proves that i am 100% right, he
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answered in the context of are you still thinking about a ban. according to james woolsey, according to our intel experts, not only would a ban of muslims in general by region, by disposition, arguably be illegal, but they all say there is consun ses that you would be giving the enemy what it wants for this to be us versus them. would you still consider a ban? >> well, he's talked about the ban, and he's made it much more circumscribed even in the course of the campaign. so i would commend everybody to see what he's actually said about it and what's on his website in terms of how to defeat radical islamic terrorism. what he says there, chris, is very clear. that we need better vetting policies. there are countries, as you and i speak, that are training, harboring, and indeed exports terrorists to places like nice and brussels. and now berlin, germany, and certainly paris, and the united states of america. in san bernardino, and of course
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the radicalized lone wolf terrorist in orlando killing 49 innocent people in may of this year. so people know here and abroad that terrorism is meant to feel as the quote, new normal. but we don't need to accept that. isis is a relatively new player on the terrorism front across the globe. it was created in part because of the vacuum that was left in how we got out of iraq. and in part because -- >> right. >> -- it's not always taken seriously by the leaders we currently have. >> you can screen based on what someone does. what i'm asking you is, are you comfortable screening based on what someone is? that their being a muslim becomes a trigger for your policy? he's gone back and forth about it based on the level of criticism. what are you saying today? >> well he hasn't gone back and forth. he doesn't go back and forth on anything based on criticism. i mean if you're us, and certainly if you're him, you are impervious to naysayers and critics in terms of them changing policy. but he's talked about this. and you're going back to over a
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year ago and what he said about the ban versus what he said later about it, when he made it much more specific and talked about countries where we -- where we know that they've got a higher propensity of training and exporting -- >> i got you. i'm asking a simple question of whether or not being a muslim will be a trigger. that's my question. simple. >> no. no, it's not, chris. and you're asking the same question differently. and he has responded to this -- >> will be a muslim be a trigger? will that count as something that you're going to look at in your policy? >> that in and of itself? >> yeah. >> no. but, but however, let's also -- i should say in addition, let's also address something that he talked about very early on that also has become -- is clearly true. especially in countries like germany, now, which are facing a popular uprising against allowing an influx of refugees who aren't being vetted into the country. >> mm-hmm. >> and we know that isis has
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threatened/promised to hide out -- to hide as syrian refugees or otherwise, they've promised to do that. they promised that they can do that. that they will just sort of blend in. i think were the words some of them used. >> mm-hmm. >> i mean we've got to start taking terrorism seriously. why does hillary clinton refer to these terrorists as quote determined enemies in her speech in accepting the nomination for president of her party, which ultimately -- >> mm-hmm. >> -- was a failure. why did she refer to them as our determined enemies when donald trump refers to them as radical islamic terrorists who must be defeated. and not contained and not mollified. >> strong talk. the question is no question it helped him in the campaign. >> it's not just strong talk. >> it is at this point. because i don't know what your policy is -- >> go look at the website. pull it up -- >> i've looked at it. nowhere on that website that is distinguishable from what we're doing right now in a concrete way. i'm saying -- >> that's not true. >> he's promising to end the war on isis quickly. what will you do that we're not
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doing now that will be so decidedly conclusive and quick? >> in addition -- in addition to what i've already said several times, which is just stronger, better vetting policies, not looking the other way when there's evidence of terrorism and wrongdoing, in addition, getting our allies more involved. even those countries that aren't necessarily ones that we deal with on a regular basis. get them involved to help defeat isis. i mean where are -- where is -- we know there's strength in numbers and unfortunately we see germany now added to the list of european countries that has fallen victim to isis. to radical islamic terrorism. and so hopefully we can get more cohesive and collaborative responses from some of our allies, and some countries that we don't normally deal with. they will retreat. they will be contained. they will be defeated. not by talk, by action. and you know, donald trump is constantly criticized here and elsewhere as, oh, my god, look
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he doesn't even have the evidence yet and he's saying that it's isis. he's been right every single time. and he's not saying it to be right. he's saying it to remind us. that the world is a dangerous place and anybody who accepts this as a quote new normal is just not -- they're giving it -- they're completely acceding to those who don't believe in freedom, don't believe in girls and women having rights, don't believe in democracy. and have made very clear that they're there to destroy europe and america. why -- why all the skepticism about somebody who won as president and commander in chief, in large part because he had a stronger message. he had a more decisive pro-america, anti-terrorist message. >> well it sounds a lot like what we were hearing from the other side in terms of what you do to stop terror. but we've been fighting it for 15 years. for a very simple reason as you know kellyanne, it ain't easy. it's complex. we've tried a lot of different things. >> that's right. >> the question is what will we do differently now? we'll have to wait and see. let me ask you about something else. this story that came out that
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there was a plan to auction off access to the president and his sons around the inauguration weekend until the center for public integrity blew it up and now it's going away. were you aware of that solicitation of what was going on in the sons' involvement? >> look, they're all going to do whatever they need to do under the law to comply with -- with our major changes to their family, and to their family's business, and to their father's status as president of the united states. but, i think we should go back and look at what don jr., eric have done, and what they will continue to do, which is raise money for charities. the eric trump foundation is ten years old. it has done enormously great work in many different corners -- >> it's the same thing the clinton people said when they were defending their allegations of pay for play. they were selling off a million dollar trip to hunt with the boys and hang out with the president. that sounds like paying for access -- >> how that's the same as bill
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clinton giving a million dollar speech in russia and then hillary clinton while secretary of state turning around and giving 20% of the u.s. uranium interests away. little bit different. >> it's paying money to get to power. >> very different than -- very different than worrying about, quote friends of william jefferson clinton getting the contracts after haiti suffered the devastating her cane in 2010. very different than allowing foreign governments to come into the state department like it's some concierge for money -- >> so paying a million dollars to hang out with the president is okay? >> i didn't say that. >> i know, you're not answering. you're answering by going after the clintons. >> no you mentioned -- >> what's your answer? >> you mentioned the clinton foundation. you said it was the same. i'm telling you it is absolutely not the same. >> i'm saying you're giving the same defense when they gave when you made the allegations about the clintons they said we do lots of great work. we took these meetings. there's never been a direct connection between what she did at the state and what was going on at the foundation. you're now saying basically the same thing.
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eric trump does great work for his foundation. >> no i'm not. >> and paying a lot of money to hang out with the president is okay. >> when you -- when you let me know -- when you let me know the eric trump foundation took 100 million bucks or so from saudi arabia, which doesn't treat women and girls the way we treat women and girls here, then we'll talk. you know, until then the idea of really equalizing these two, where they were going around the world and getting money from foreign countries that then would give right to telecommunications and uranium -- >> so let's say that was -- it's close to christmas i've give you a gift. let's say that's worse. that doesn't make this okay. and it is interesting that eric trump is backing away from it now. don jr. is backing away from it now. if it's all okay, why are they backing away? >> because they support their father and they know that we'll never get a fair shake in the trump administration and that's unfortunate i think this conversation shows that. to actually compare the two, the
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idea that these folks are trying to help people in need, and those people are going to suffer now. because folks are pointing out what they seem to be improprieties. i didn't say i necessarily agree. i just think that they will always do the right thing. i know them well. they will always what they perceive to be the right thing, regardless of whether -- regardless of whether -- who has a comment about it and who doesn't have a comment about it. that shouldn't even come into play. what comes into play is legalities and appearances, and i got to tell you, these are incredibly brilliant, talented young men who are going to continue with the trump corporation, and the amazing business that their brilliant father has built. and the tens of thousands of people that he has employed over the years. and i suppose if they have to suspend some of their charitable giving, then hopefully they'll be made up in the great work that their father does as president of the united states. >> kellyanne conway. congratulations to you on the appointment. best to you. >> thank you, chris. >> best to you and your family for christmas. >> thank you, merry christmas. >> alisyn?
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>> president-elect donald trump picks for ambassador to israel has several controversial positions. we will discuss those with former u.s. senator joe lieberman next. you apply? oh, i'll do it later today. your credit score must be amazing. my credit score? credit karma. it's free. that's great! um hm. just whip bam boom, it's done. that apartment is mine! credit karma. give yourself some credit. won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. and if you have more than one liberty mutual policy, you qualify for a multi-policy discount, saving you money on your car and home coverage. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
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president-elect donald trump wants hard-line lawyer david friedman as ambassador to israel. friedman has a number of controversial ideas that deviate from u.s. policy over the past few decades. let's discuss it. joining us now is former independent senator and former democratic vice presidential candidate joe lieberman. senator, great to have you here in studio. >> good to be here. good morning. >> what do you think of this pick? >> well, full disclosure at the outside, david friedman is a personal friend of mine. when i left the senate i became senior counsel in a law firm in which he's one of the founding partners. >> you're the perfect person -- >> exactly. so, i like him a lot. i think he's extremely capable. i don't agree with him on everything he's ever said. but i think the most important thing is that president-elect donald trump wants david friedman to be the ambassador to israel. in other words, he has the confidence of the
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president-elect. >> well, look, mr. friedman has said a lot of controversial things. but let's -- his positions on things. >> yeah. >> so let's dive into some of those. first he wants to move the u.s. embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. what do you think? >> so i'm for that. i mean, let me say generally before i get to that that i think you're going to find in the weeks ahead in the confirmation process on david friedman that it's going to be very clear that he wants -- he and president trump want to be part of achieving peace between israelis and palestinians and that some of the things he said really don't reflect what he believes and i think you'll find along the way -- >> uh-huh. >> -- that he will express some regrets. >> right i know. i think what you're referring to is the two-state solution. >> no. no, maybe. but i -- >> he's against that. he's opposed to the two-state solution. and he said very controversial things to people who support it is pro-israel that called
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themselves pro-peace and let's just go right there right now because it is the most controversial. he has sate are jay street supporters really as bad as capos? the answer actually is no, they're far worse. the jews who turned in their fellow jews in the nazi death camps they are advocates delivered from the comfort of their secure american sofas it's hard to imagine anyone worse. this has got a lot of attention. >> yes it has. i totally disagree with that statement and find it unfair and offensive. and i've said this to david and i think he will make clear that that's one of the statements he regrets having made. >> really? >> i believe so. but i'm going to leave it to him. >> but it's your understanding that he regrets that and he would back off of that statement. because he's been asked a couple of times and he hasn't backed off of it. >> let's see what happens. he feels that he said that in the heat of the campaign in which he was really trying his hardest to advocate for donald trump. but let's go back --
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>> hold on one last beat on this. does mr. trump support a two-state solution? >> well, i don't know. incidentally. that's the important question. because david friedman may have a point of view. but, when he -- if he's confirmed, as the ambassador to israel, he is the representative of the president of the united states. >> right. >> so it's really a question of what the president of the united states has done. let me put it this way, incident, to be very clear i strongly support a two-state solution. to me i've looked at every other alternative over the years between achieving peace between israelis and palestinians and you can't do it unless you recognize the right of the palestinians to have their own state. so, here's -- this much i've heard president-elect trump say. he really would like to be part of achieving the ultimate agreement between israelis and palestinians. >> yeah. >> you can't do that without ending up with two states. >> well, but i mean the idea that he would choose david friedman suggests to some that
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maybe he is not committed to the two-state solution. since david friedman has been so vocal about being a critic of it. >> again i think as this process goes on, david friedman speaks out, he has his confirmation hearing i think you're going to find what i believe, even though i disagree on the question of the two-state solution that he really wants to be part of bringing peace between israelis and palestinians. and i think part of what's in his mind, and president-elect trump is that they don't want the united states to be in a position to be pressuring israel to make an agreement that israel wouldn't otherwise make. but the u.s. has, i think, an indispensable role here in trying to mediate and negotiate between israelis and palestinians. >> mr. trump hasn't even said that he would like to somehow enlist the help of his son-in-law, jared kushner. >> yes. >> to help find peace in the middle east. what do you think about that? >> i think that's fine. i mean, and here's why i think it's fine.
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i know jared a little bit, not a lot. seems very capable to me. but obviously, if he's in meetings in the middle east, or meeting with leaders there, everybody's going to know that he, like david friedman, really represents the president of the united states. so it's not just with all respect sort of a career foreign service officer. these are people real close to the president. and we're at a moment of opportunity in the middle east in this sense. that it is quite clear that the relations between israel and the arab nations are closer than they have ever been before. particularly because they share a concern, a fear about iran. they have common interests. but, the arab nations won't come out with this closer relationship to israel, in my opinion, unless there's progress between the israelis and
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palestinians. >> so quickly you do support the idea of moving the embassy? >> i do. and i don't think it decides an issue that's undecided, which is the status of jerusalem. and here's why. the embassy, and incidentally, i co-sponsored the bill in 19 -- in the 1990s, along with senator trent lott, which asked for our embassy to be moved to jerusalem. here's why. israel is the only country in the world, as far as i know, where we don't have our embassy in the city the host country designates as its capital. and where are we going to put it? everybody agrees it's going to be in a part of jerusalem that has been israeli since the creation of the state in 1948. so it's not in land on the periphery that's in dispute in the negotiations between israelis and palestinians. the only reason you wouldn't -- i mean you'd have to argue against moving the embassy to jerusalem based on the fact that you don't think there will be jews in jerusalem anymore.
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the president-elect and his team taking on big subjects. what to do about terror. what to do about trade. let's get the bottom line on the ideas, and the realities, joining us now cnn senior political analyst and senior editor of the atlantic ron brownstein. and cnn business correspondent and early start anchor our friend christine romans. not that you're not, ron. but let me say to you let's start with what's going on in berlin. donald trump says i was right. it's islamic terror. no surprise there. and he says, that's why i'm 100% right about what to do about it. we talk to kellyanne conway. they're backing away from the idea of targeting muslims. i asked her directly several times, of course, will muslims be something that is on your
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checklist? she said no. >> oh. >> speechless. >> no, that was the place where he ended in the campaign. first of all, it was -- it was -- it was enjoyable to watch you and kellyanne exchange your holiday pleasantries this morning. but look, i mean, donald trump did move during the campaign. and i think although his words yesterday were -- or the other day were characteristically okay it suggested he is going forward in the same place where he had ended. where he had moved from the complete and total ban as he put it in his original statement on muslims entering the u.s. to something that would be more region specific. essentially saying we will still pretty significant change in policy, saying we will completely ban immigration on a temporary basis from certain countries until we have established standards for extreme vetting. my guess is what that -- that is what he was referring to yesterday and that is how we will move forward. but again it's a little hard to tell because this entire process
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has lacked precision and multiple positions he has espoused positions that are different than what is on the website at any given moment. but it does seem like that is where he ended the campaign, i think, is where he seems to be signaling he will be going forward as president. >> let's move on to the economy. christine. obviously we've been talking about tariffs, and the suggestion that mr. trump would like to impose tariffs on foreign imports. you also have some new numbers. i know that you are on a break. >> numbers on gdp, this is the broadest gauge of how the economy is doing, what we make, what we produce, what the we import, strong. 3.5%. the strongest in more than two years here. a couple years ago in the middle of 2014, you had a 5% quarter, 3.5% here. when you look at the strongest growth in two years, here's why. exports. you look at consumer spending. higher inventory, federal government spending all the things that are driving growth here. we also say that companies are investing in equipment, and in software. all of that suggests that the
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economy is humming along here. it is one of those pieces of economic news that again is a tail wind for donald trump as we head into next year. >> he says he's going to get it to 4%. >> yes. >> and one of the ideas of how that just came out is the team supposedly discussing a tariff on imports of 5%. the romans take. >> the romans take is the easiest way to absorb 5% tariffs across the board if you're a company. do you take it out of your profit or just pass it on to consumers? >> that's a rhetorical question. >> a lot of people are saying it's a tax. it would be a tax on consumers. 5% not big enough to force companies to relocate jobs to the u.s. and just small enough that you could try to shoot it in an attack. that's the business view and this is floated by the campaign we're told as they try to figure out just how fierce the opposition is. it's pretty fierce. >> ron we just had congresswoman debbie dingell from michigan on in the program, she said for her
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voters for the factory workers in her state for the working class, they like the sound of this. >> right, well look. you know, we have seen the parties in their business of voters switch positions on trade. i mean democratic party is now more of the pro-trade party than the republican party. the problem is, is that first of all, for a lot of those blue collar and nonurban voters, as christine said, this is a tax. i mean they rely on in many cases the low prices that are produced by lower cost imports to deal with stagnating wages -- >> right then why do they like it? >> that's why they like it. on the other hand it is also true if you kind of look at this geographically, hillary clinton won fewer than one sixth of the counties in america. fewer than 500 counties. but according to research by brookings, her counties accounted for two-thirds of all the economic output in the country. she won the places that are kind of integrated into the global economy by and large. most integrated into the global economy. some of the most exports facing metropolitan areas, increasingly
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exporting services, and intellectual property. that is kind of the heart of the modern democratic coalition. and i think for many donald trump voters outside of those urban centers, this will sound good. but there will be a cost at the bottom line, as many people are doing the last-minute christmas shopping in places like walmart, whether they want to hear that prices are going to be going up 5%. that's another question when -- >> that's -- >> and donald trump standing there yesterday calling the boeing ceo in or calling ceos and saying, you know, look, i expect you to keep costs down for the american tax pair he is standing up as the guy who is speaking for the men and women who've had no voice all of these years. but when you tell people you could actually have a higher grocery bill or a higher bill when you go to you know back to school shopping if indeed you start putting tariffs on, the business community says this is just a trade sledge hammer that it's not a scalpel in a trade policy. we need to have a scalpel. we'll have to see. >> the promise of the talk. the reality of the walk. what is your take? tweet us on new day.
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a science content developer from au austin, texas, cindy stowell, whose six-day cash winnings total $103,000. >> cindy stowell was battling more than her fellow competitors on "jeopardy!" during that six-game winning streak. but that ended yesterday. here is the amazing part. cindy appeared on "jeopardy!" nearly two weeks after she had passed away. joining us now is cindy's brother greg stowell. we are so sorry for your loss. we know this is a hard day for you. >> thank you. >> greg, what was it like to watch your sister on this six-day winning streak? >> it's kind of an emotional roller coaster. it's bittersweet. i got to be there in person for the tapings, so i kind of knew the outcome. and despite knowing the ultimate outcome, i, you know, still ended up cheering for her, and
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with my wife and kids. >> hmm. >> what do you think it meant for your family for her partner of so many years, to see her living out what was part of her dream during the hardest part of her fight? >> i got to be there when she actually got the notice that she would be scheduled for the tapings, and she was absolutely glowing. and something she had been trying to do for, you know, since she was an early teenager she tried and made it to, won like the regional written test part and competing against, you know, kids that were in college. so, yeah and last night alex trebek talked about that. he talked about how it was a lifelong dream of hearse. let's play a little moment. >> for the past six "jeopardy!" programs you folks have been getting to know the talented champion cindy stowell. appearing on our show was the fulfillment of a lifelong
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ambition for that lady. what you did not know is that when we taped these promise with her a few weeks ago she was suffering from stage four cancer. and sadly, on december 5th, cindy stowell passed away. so from all of us here at "jeopardy!" our sincere condolences to her family, and her friends. >> oh, boy, greg. that is -- that's so touching to just watch that moment after everybody was cheering on cindy, and so excited for her. she won. a lot of money. what did she tell you she wanted to do with that? >> cindy wanted to donate her money to the cancer research institute. and any viewers who wanted to donate any money to the cancer research institute can do so, easily, through www.cancerresearch.org. i think she kind of felt that she wanted to do some good with it. and she couldn't take it with
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her, i guess. >> well, but while she couldn't take it with her, she could spread it to so many who need it. listen, greg, we know this isn't a conversation you want to have, being on tv talking about your sister. we know how hard this is for you and your family. but, you had somebody very special in your life who wanted people to know things about the needs and about what it takes to fight cancer. she wanted that to be part of her legacy. so what do you want people to know about who she was and what mattered to her? >> cindy was very kind. she -- if she believed in something, she wouldn't back down no matter how bloodied she get fighting for it. and i think this is one of those causes. >> we know that as kids you guys would watch "jeopardy!" together. with your grandparents. i think we've all had that experience. but not all of us are as smart as cindy to be able to pull that off.
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>> and i definitely -- "jeopardy!" was not my thing. that was hearse from as long as i can remember. >> it's hard for you to get better at it when someone next to you gets the answers right all the time. >> i know that feeling. but greg, thank you. thank you for sharing your sister with us, and we will help direct people to what her legacy was with those funds. thank you very much. >> god bless, especially around the holidays. thank you for the gift of letting us know more about your sister. >> thank you. >> whew that is some story. as a segue you think you could beat me at "jeopardy!"? >> well, i do know the answers to more things than you. but i don't know. should we have a "jeopardy!" playoff? >> craziest thing i've ever heard. that's -- we've got some great good stuff coming up for you next. hi, we're the hulford quads.
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(laughter) we're in 8th grade. technology is the only thing that really entertains us. i'm gonna use this picture on sketchbook, and i'm going to draw mustaches on you all. using the pen instead of fingers, it just feels more comfortable for me. be like, boop! it's gone. i like that only i can get into it and that it recognizes my fingerprint. our old tablet couldn't do that. it kind of makes you feel like you're your own person, which is a rare opportunity in my family. (laughter)
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i we worked with pg&eof to save energy because wenie. wanted to help the school. they would put these signs on the door to let the teacher know you didn't cut off the light. the teachers, they would call us the energy patrol. so they would be like, here they come, turn off your lights! those three young ladies were teaching the whole school about energy efficiency. we actually saved $50,000. and that's just one school, two semesters, three girls. together, we're building a better california.
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good stuff, here's something that will get you in the holiday spirit. the boy scouts in new mexico are selling christmas trees to raise money for their upcoming trips. they've still got tons left over. so what did they decide to do? >> everybody just sat there and went, we can't take these to the recycling center, like we just can't. >> we're going to give away the rest of the trees to families in need. >> so, the troop encouraging people to come down to the lot in albuquerque and pick out any tree they want for free.
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>> that's fantastic. love that story. and seasonal. >> or are you upset that you didn't wait and paid the 25 bucks? >> i would have had to driven to albuquerque. but maybe it's worth it -- >> you're saying -- >> i have to run the numbers. >> win-win? >> time for "newsroom" with erica hill in for carol costello. good morning, erica. >> hey, nice to see you both this morning. thank you. good morning, i'm erica hill in today for carol costello. thanks for joining us. we do begin with chilling new details on the main suspect in the berlin truck attack. according to investigator files, seen by cnn, anis amri had previously discussed launching an attack in germany and authorities knew it, long before monday's killing spree. amri had surfaced during an investigation of an isis linked group, and an informant told police members discussed turning the truck into a giant bomb

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