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late word donald trump's planning some kind of a shakeup. the president-elect casting fresh doubt on the intelligence consensus that russia meddled in the election, appearing to place his trust in wikileaks' julian assange. a far cry from a few years back when he essentially called for his head. >> you think it's disgraceful? >> today a different tune. and an update on the briefing. the tweet read the intelligence, in quotes, briefing on so-called russian hacking in quotes was delayed until friday. perhaps more time needed to build a case, very strange. we'll talk more about it in a minute, but first, breaking news, what are we learning about the possible future of the intelligence community once the president-elect takes office?
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>> our reporting is trump wants to limit or reassess the power of the director of national intelligence. to be clear, this was something that was founded, recommended after 9/11, as part of the 9/11 commission hearings to have a director of national intelligence to oversee the agencies, make sure there was cooperation, intelligence sharing. as you know, that was one of the concerns. pre-9/ pre-9/11, those agencies weren't sharing information. but this is not entirely new, there's been talk about this for some time. a lot of those agencies have bristled at the idea of having some sort of overarching body. so it's a bit of an administrative thing. it's being pushed by his national security adviser, general michael flynn, who i should note was pushed out of the defense intelligence agency under president obama in part by the director of national intelligence. so there's internal politics behind this as well. >> how concerned are people or
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how are they reacting inside the intelligence community? >> the word i hear is dismay. you have intelligence agencies working very hard, oftentimes under very difficult, dangerous circumstances to keep the president apprise the of threats, and you have the president-elect coming in via twitter, questioning not only their ability, their capability but really their politics here. so there's dismay. there's also confusion. and we saw some of that this week where donald trump said yesterday that his intelligence briefing on russian hacking was delayed. fact is, it was never scheduled for yesterday. it was always at the end of the week after the president gets his own briefing on this review he ordered. so there's real concern inside these agencies as far as what this means for them. >> trump has had intelligence briefings in the past, is there
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a difference between the trump they see in meetings and the message he's sending out in public? >> there is. we hear from intelligence officials that the trump you see on twitter is one thing, but in those briefings, those presidential daily briefings that he's getting not every day but several times a week, that trump is more differential, he asks several questions. he's not berating them in private. but in public he dismisses them. and it's difficult for them to rectify, what is the true trump. the trouble is, it's hard to rein in the public commenting because it raises overall questions about the capabilities of the intelligence agencies, and when you have a real threat, whether it's a terror attack, et cetera, you have a president-elect who is called into question in public and repeatedly the capability of these organizations. they're very concerned. >> thanks. as we said at the top, his public statements leaves him at
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odds with highly influence people in his own party. >> reporter: donald trump's relentless skepticism toward u.s. intelligence and praise for julian assange highlighting a sharp split between the president-elect and other gop leaders. house speaker paul ryan unleashing a wave of criticism against the wikileaks founder who published the hacked e-mails from hillary clinton's campaign chairman john podesta. >> he's a sick fants, he leaks and steals data and compromises national security. >> not only should he ignore julian assange but should condemn him for what he's done to our country. >> reporter: assange insists his information is not coming from the russian government. >> our source is not a state party. >> he's not exact lay bastion of
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truth and integrity. >> reporter: as they wait for the intelligence report on russia. >> i would suggest to those who have not yet seen the report and mott been briefed on it that they wait and see what is being put forward before they make those judgments. >> reporter: vice president elect pence is backing up his boss. >> i think he has sincere skepticism about intelligence conclusions. >> has donald trump ex-planed why he distrusts these intelligence sources? >> reporter: he has not explained it exactly for himself, but shawn spicer who is the incoming white house press secretary told reporters today it's not the raw intelligence that donald trump is doubting but rather the conclueses that intelligence officials are drawing that russia then meddled in the u.s. election. spicer said that is what donald
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trump is hoping to press intelligence officials for on this meeting on friday is a better explanation for how it they were able to conclude that russia did try to echbt fear in u.s. elections. but there's another component to this, and it's the fact that donald trump is personally offended. sources say that they believe that he believes this is an opportunity for intelligence officials to try to undermine his victory, to undermine his legitimacy as president. >> are thanks for the update. elliot kohn author of the new book "the big stick." i want to start by asking you about this wall street journal report that's out tonight that donald trump's transition team is looking to scale back the office of the national
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intelligence and also lower the staff numbers of the cia in langley and get more people out in the field. what do you make of that? >> i don't know. i guess i tnd to thiend to thin distraction. the office of national intelligence is an umbrella organization. there's been a hot lot of disagreement whether creating it was a good idea or not. this sh pretty petty stuff and it's not technically important. but what is important is the president-elect saying he knows better than the intelligence agency. >> the president-elect tweeting out, mocking the intelligence community putting it in quotes, putting russian hacking in quotes. they, clearly seems to believe that the intelligence community is far too politicized or in
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some way, he seems to be siding with julian assange over that. >> who knows what he believes, but it is dangerous. it sets up an antagonistic relationship between the intelligence community, which does exist to serve the president and the administration. and the president. and it seems to indicate that he has this kind of sleepwalker's confidence in his own judgment, in his own reading of things. and i think it sends a terrible message to the world that he briefs prefers to side with vladimir putin and julian assange. >> pushing back on the intelligence community is maybe a healthy thing, maybe it raises the bar, maybe it makes them scrub down on things more carefully. >> i spent a lot of time pushing back on the intelligence community. the way you do that is get a lot of briefings, and they say things, and you say, well, explain to me, how do you know that? and what is the logic chain
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here, and it's done notpy it tweets. it's done by hours of serious conversation. somebody like former vice president dick cheney is actually quite good at that. despite what people think, the intelligence community did not mind being grilled by dick chain eye. it made them better. it was done in quiet. it was not done by blasting out tweets which dismissed the intelligence community in favor of a russian dictator and a traitor. >> did the idea that he's tweeting out messages to north korea or about north korea that they're certainly going to read, this is uncharted waters. >> this is completely unprecedented, abnormal, and, again, it's dangerous. on the policy toward north korea, it might or might not be the right thing. but it's very important to do this in a very deliberate way, to have these things argued out. >> in more than 140 characters. >> right, in more than 140 characters and not at 3:00.
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you need to have your secretary of state and secretary of defense. this is reckless. either he will commit himself to dangerous courses of action or back down. and ironically, the same thing with president obama, a red line that turns out not to mean anything. and part of the pattern here is he tweets something at 3:00 a.m. and kellyanne conway walks it back when she wakes up five or since hours later. >> i want to talk to you about the book. essentially, you are arguing that in this age where so much has, this notion of soft power, you're basically pushing back on that, that military force, there is a role for that in a number of, perhaps more than ever, in a number of circumstances. >> look. one thing i say, gunot that sof power isn't important, it is important to put sanctions on
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the russians or iranians, but it's important to know that there are limits. in very short order they'll be able to hit the continental u.s. with weapons. military power is tremendously important, and part of what the book is about is a case for what's really now the traditional american policy of global leadership. and what i try to argue out in the book is the way in which military power undergirds that, in places like europe for example, or for say the south china sea. >> congratulations on the book. thank you so much for be beiingh us. coming up tonight, where officials have the gotten it ri.
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int int inte int int breaking news tonight as jim sciutto reported. sources saying that donald trump is considering a shakeup. it's happening in the middle of donald trump's clash with the intelligence community, justifying his skepticism with what he sees as failures throughout the years. >> reporter: even's isis roars through its third year as a self-proclaimed caliphate in northern iraq and syria, a debate is raging in the u.s. did president obama fail to heed early signs of the proper
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group's rise? >> he's the founder of isis. >> reporter: or, as he told 60 minutes, did the intelligence community mott sufficiently warn him about the threat? >> i think they underestimated what had been taking place in syria. >> reporter: from the killing of osama bin laden to the steady march of drone strikes which r have taken out dozens of leaders, the intelligence community can claim many successes which have saved countless lives. the roughly $70 billion tax dollars a year, they run a global operation, tracking down bad guys, disrupting terror plots and crippling crime rings, but there have been notable failures, too, for example, while intelligence forces knew about the rise of al qaeda well before 2001, many security analysts say they badly missed the warn beiing signs of the 9/ attacks.
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there have been several lone wolf attacks which have stliped below the radar. and the invasion of iraq driven forward by the bush administration's insistence the iraqis had weapons of mass destruction. >> we're giving you our facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence. >> reporter: but that was not true. and later the same officials who pushed for the tanks to roll insisted they had been led astray. >> i'm not the investigator ever the intelligence community, but if i was, we would be having very long meetings about this. >> reporter: such finger pointing and the inharnts secrecy of intelligence work can make it extremely difficult to get the facts straight. >> i think the way that i would describe it is that inevitable. >> reporter: and in that environment figuring out who to hold accountable can also require some pretty good gathering of intelligence. >> tom foreman, plenty to talk about with bill daly.
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and john king. bill, the fact that in taking issue with the findings over the hackings that the president-elect pointed out that it comes from the same people who said saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction, is that a fair comparison? >> i think a president should question, obviously, any information he gets, but to challenge the, what seems to be a unanimous opinion of the intelligence agencies and look at a glaring mistake of which the cia and other intelligence agencies have said obviously was a mistake, worldwide international agencies made, it's just starting a battle before you are even president that i can't quite figure out what the purpose is. he's going to have to depend, the country depends on these men and women keeping us safe, and he will depend on their intelligence. he can't be doubting or going around them to try to get information from other sources. and that undermines their
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competence, obviously, and undermines their dedication, and questions it. >> john, i mean, also in such a public way. to be tweeting out sort of, i guess you can interpret his putting the quotes around the word intelligence to describe the intelligence community, but it seems sar kass dick and a snide aside about the entire intelligence community. >> just putting the words intelligence in quotes, putting the words russian hacking in quotes, suggesting that they're trying to cook the books in delaying a briefing which actually wasn't delayed. mr. trump's facts are wrong on that. it was scheduled for friday when the report is finished, but mocking the intelligence community and look at julian assange. so he credits julian assange. he credits vladimir putin and mocks the intelligence community. it's an academic conversation. he's the president-elect. but in 16 days he's the president.
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never mind the democrat ickedem. more and more republicans are getting concerned. republicans coming out saying they hope the president-elect has a very quick turning of the page. >> you from obviously president obama's chief of staff in the white house. you know how it works. does the president's mind set change when you start to get the daily briefings every day? >> no, he'll get them if he wants them. but the fact of the hatter ett matter is, donald trump's going to do did hit his way. everything's fantastic and there's no reason form him to change. that's his m.o. and it's not going to change. i honor of being there to the
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runup to the osama bin laden raid, and i saw what dedication the intelligence agencies and all the different agencies that were brought to bear for that action gave for ten years, looking for osama bin laden. and the sort of dedication. when you question that, and you question their motives and you question their competence, and you're going to be president of the united states and lead these men and women who are out there risking their lives every day for our security, it's just a dangerous thing. forget politically, for the nation. and for the, for people who spend their lives protecting us. i just don't understand it. i think it's a disgraceful action by the president-elect. >> john, some supporters might say well, look, he's pushing back, and that's not necessarily an unhealthy thing, that it basically raises the bar. it raises everybody's expectations and makes people work harder. >> no question. i think after the iraq war experience, a healthy skepticism is warranted.
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john brennan, the cia director who now serves president obama but goes back through other republican and democratic administrations through his service, most of them former military or current military people in the intelligence community, is it healthy to be skeptical? absolutely. what alarms people in the intelligence community, it annoys people in the intelligence community and alarms people across the partisan spectrum, democrat and republican, is doing it so publicly and mocking their words, undermining theiwords. if he wants to say scrub it, post iraq we should all be skeptical. here's what alarms people, anderson. we're having a conversation about the president-elect, about things he has said during the campaign and during the transition. if you talk to military people or intelligence people in washington, they think this new president in his very early days and weeks in office may have to make a monumental decision about north korea. if north korea goes to test an intercontinental ballistic
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missile, what is donald trump going to say when the cia, the defense intelligence agency and other intelligence agencies come to him with that intelligence? sometimes you get to send them pack to scrub the books again. bill knows this, sometimes the president has to make a snap judgment. >> you heard some pretty bluchbts assessments of julian assange. he is no stranger to controversy. our gary tuckman tonight reports. >> reporter: this video from 2007 was secret, until wikileaks released it in 2010. >> roger. there's about 20 of them. >> reporter: u.s. apache crew members see a group of sus spefkted insurgents in iraq and see rocket-propelled grenades. they have get permission to fire. turns out two journalists from reuters are within the group. >> line them all up. >> come on, fire.
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>> roger. >> reporter: at least a dozen people killed in the attack. some innocent civilians, including the news crew. release of this video helped make the founder of wikileaks, an australian named julian assange, a household name. the documents revealing information that included arab leaders were lobbying the u.s. to attack iran and diplomats were told to engage in low-level spying. many outraged the classified information had opinibeen relea. >> calling on the attorney general in supporting efforts to fully prosecute wikileaks and its founder and violating the espionage act and to call on hillary clinton to declare wikileaks a foreign terrorist organization. >> reporter: none of that
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happened. jewulian assange appeared on "6 minutes." >> i'm sure there are views by hillary clinton and her lot that we are subverting their authority. you're right, we are subverting let authority. the question is whether the authority is legitimate or illegitimate. >> do you consider the u.s. state debate a legitimate snort. >> it's legitimate insofar as its actions are let. it has actions that are not legitimate. >> reporter: since 2006, millions of classified and sensitive military and diplomatic documents were released to and by assange and wikileaks. and that's not the only controversy surrounding assange. he's been holed up for four years in the ecuadorian embassy in london on charges of sexual assault, charges he's denied. in the embassy wikileaks and assange have been active. just before the democratic
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national convention began this summer, wikileaks published documents from the democratic national community. >> your readers are american, and therefore it's snok. >> the publication for true information is the most important qualifier. true information about modern institutions allows us to understand what they're doing and therefore to reform them. >> reporter: the dnc documents, the overwhelming consensus among u.s. intelligence is that the russian government is behind the leaks of wikileaks. here's what assange said about that in his most recent tv appearance. >> we can say, we have said repeatedly over the last two months that our source is not the russian government and it is not a state party. >> reporter: so who is assange's
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source? he's not saying. while the mystery of the man and his methods continues. gary tuckman, cnn, atlanta. >> well, more news ahead. mike pence gave a taste of the role he's likely to play in the trump administration, signaling he plans to be an active vice president, details ahead. only free of artificial dyes and preservatives liquid gels delivers the powerful cold symptom relief you need without the unnecessary additives you don't. loudspeaker: clean up, aisle 4. alka-seltzer plus liquid gels. (vo) it's that time of year again. when you realize you still didn't get quite what you wanted. that's why verizon has the best deals of the year on the best network. like a free smartphone when you add a line or switch. no trade-in required. choose from the samsung galaxy j3, the lg k8 or stylo, or the the motoz play. all free. and as if you needed another reason, switch to verizon now and get up to $650 to cover your costs. there's still time to get exactly what you want at verizon.
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in 16 days, mike pence will become the 48th vice president of the united states and is expected to be donald trump's point man on capitol hill with an eye toward quick action on an ambitious agenda for the first 100 days. today his focus was one of trump's biggest campaign promises, obamacare. jeff zeleny reports. >> i couldn't be more humbled and more excited to be back in the capitol today. >> reporter: mike pence back in the capitol, with a powerful
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portfolio as donald trump's vice president. >> we are 16 days away from the end of business as usual in washington, d.c. >> reporter: the first order of business he says is a quick repeal of obamacare. he rolled out a road map at the very moment president obama visited capitol hill, urging democrats to fight. it spoke volumes about pence's standing in the new white house. >> american people have spoken. they want to see us repeal and replace obamacare. and today my message to members of congress is that we are going to be in the promise-keeping business. >> reporter: the vice preside - president-elect's rising power has been visible. pence served in congress for a dozen years. railing against the health care law the day it passed. >> some say we're making history. i say we're breaking history.
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>> reporter: today he made clear he'll again be a fixture in the capitol, setting up a working office outside the house and senate like dick chain eye. republicans close to pence say he hopes to model his vice presidency after cheney's, with one key difference, he must play the role of trump whisperer. shortly after trump tweeted a warning earlier today about repealing the law too quickly, republicans must be careful in that democrats own the failed obamacare disaster with his poor coverage and massive increase in cost. >> it will be important that we be careful as we do that, that we do that in a way that doesn't work a shahardship on american families. >> reporter: in addition to health care, pence said the new administration would roll back president obama's legacy, passing tax reform and an
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infrastructure program. while trump still gives many republicans heartburn, they see pence as a far steadier hand. arizona senator, jeff flake, is one of pence's oldest friends in congress, who has been critical of trump. >> mike spence 12 years in the house, four years as governor. he's extremely knowledgeable about the legislative process and a policy wonk. >> reporter: the imprint of mike pence can be sooneen across the trump administration. but republicans here on capitol hill also tell me they hope he'll be inflew edges inside the white house on policy. >> joining me, floria borger and john king. john, it was a pretty striking visual to see president obama and vice president elect pence on the hill rather than obama and trump.
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what does that say in terms of the role pence is going to have as vice president? >> we should not overstate or understate his role. is he his number one legislative trump person on capitol hill. more importantly, he's the number one conduit for conservatives who still have doubts about donald trump, who don't now donald trump and what direction he will take as president. so pence is their point person, because they know he has donald trump's ear. they know donald trump is grateful for his loyalty on the campaign trail. we don't know what kind of influence he has in the room one on one with donald trump. make no mistake, trump is the boss. pence is among those who went to donald trump and said you should back off all that twitter stuff. donald trump hasn't done that. but when it comes to capitol hill, relationships he's critical. >> and gloria, it's not the first time he's served as emissary to capitol hill.
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>> no, he has met with paul ryan during the campaign and after, to make sure that that relationship has smoofted out. he's also met with republican whose are not friends of trump like ben sass of nebraska. i think what he is is the trump translator. he explains trump to congress and explains congress to trump. i think at this point that's kind of his biggest role, and i think one way to judge his dwrin influence will be to see if ivanka trump and jared are still behind him. because after all, they were the ones who really wanted him in that job. he had their trust. and i think if donald trump, who i believe trusts him now, continues to draw him in that inner sir equain er circle, then i think we could see him have more and more influence, just like the family does. >> that's an important point beyond an emissary to capitol
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hill. how much power will pence have in that white house? i mean, he said he wants to model his vice presidency on dick chain eeney who had a lot power and personal connection in terms of policy with the president. >> there's no question, george w. bush gave dick cheney a broad portfolio, he probably i expanded it beyond what he was specifically given by george w. bush. pence is the anti-trump. he's trusted on capitol hill. you don't get into this stage of politics without having a pretty healthy ego, but he has unassuming presence and air about him, the midwestern approach to him, very well respected on capitol hill. the democrats like him too. we won't know until 100 days in or more whether, you know, what his actual influence with the president is. but at the moment, feagain, it'
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an incredibly important role. i talked to a republican senator last night who said of mike pence, he's one of us. he's a true conservative. donald trump is donald trump. i don't think it was meant as critically as it sounds when you stay, but a lot of people on capitol hill don't know trump. will he listen to democrats? will he go back to some of his prior democratic tendencies? or will he be one of them, but they do trust pence. >> one thing i was going to say, anderson, these relationships between presidents and vice presidents kind of ebb and flow. this, the white house is a really small place. and either a president grows to like his vice president, trust him and depend on him, like i think barack obama has grown to trust joe biden, i think they were less close in the first term, more close in the second term, or their relationship can split apart as it did with george w. bush and dick chain eyy,
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who really ended up clashing over foreign poly. t does donald trump want a yes man or a man who will tell him i disagree and this is why and will he listen to his vice president? >> thank you both. just ahead, the president's club is obvious lly a small one. we'll take a look at that. plus, the heart-stopping video that has a happy ending when a toddler saves his twin. the skeptics are weighing in. tech: at safelite, we know how busy your life can be.
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y well, no matter how ugly or contentious the presidential election, and let's be frank, the last one was in a class of its own, come january 20th, candidates and former presidents appear for the inauguration. despite the nastiness of the past year, it looks like respect for the tradition's going to ten. g jimmy carter has rsvped. and joining me is john meacham. the fact that the clintons have confirmed they're going to be at the inauguration, not odd for a first lady and former president, but rare for a defeated candidate to be there, isn't it?
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had. >> well, unless you were maybe the vice president or you would be there anyway in the course of thins. so i think it's a sign of great grace for the bush 43s. and the clintons who have sustained attacks. it's a fairly recent thing for former presidents who were not immediately out of office to come. and i think the partisan atmosphere is so poisonous, that former presidents tend to get a larger view. and want to lend a sense of unity. >> is that something that former presidents didn't always get. >> no, not unless you had some reason to be there. one of the complications, for 25% of my life, a bush has been president. but for former presidents, to
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take pains to be there is something that's of relatively recent vintage. >> it's interesting, as far as the bushes go, his brother got soundly defeated by donald trump. >> there's no love lost for the bush family and donald trump. they don't really like him, but reality is reality. i'm amazed that george w. bush is nowhere to be seen. he's in dallas running his library. bu but as you said at the beginning, its with a brutal campaign, there is going to be hillary clinton having to absorb the fact that she lost to this guy. >> right. >> and i think if there are big ratings for the inauguration, a lot of people are going to be looking at the body language, like we do at state of the union addresses or how are bill and hillary reacting with the trumps and where are they going to be seated. >> they didn't always, ulysses
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s. grant wouldn't ride in a carriage to the white house. you can go to a lot of these elections where john meacham is saying is true, they didn't happen like it this, but longevity means you live longer, so you're going to be a longer ex-president, and air travel, it's easier to get to d.c. than it was in the old days. >> it's about honoring the peaceful transition of power. >> nobody knows what it's like to be president except those who have been president. and you used the phrase club, which is right. our friends michael duffy wrote a book. there is a fraternity among those who have been there. one of the things that's so interesting about everyone responding yes in this moment,
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is that of all the moments, for instance if bush 43 had wanted to stay in dallas or be off in africa working on some of his projects, this would be the one. this is a man the president-elect who accused him of falsifying the road to the iraq war, of being asleep at the switch on 9/11. but the bushes in particular, both 41 and 43 have a reverence for the office that i think they believe that in a contentious moment, a show of comity, a show of unity is important for the country. >> yeah, such an incredible photo there of all the former presidents with then president obama. thank you. up next, nanny cam video posted online, a lot of people are talking about, a dresser falling onto a 2-year-old boy. now there are questions about whether or not the whole thing is a hoax. what the parents are saying when
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hart stopping nanny cam video gone viral online. see it in a moment as you watch. on average a child dies in america every two weeks from furniture or tv falling on them. fortunately for a utah mom and dad nobody was hurt when dresser crashed on the twins but still wondering if it's hoax. >> is it a hoax or brotherly heroism? started in bedroom of two twin boys. had climbed into the drawers of the bedroom dresser. then this happened. little brock trapped underneath it. unsure what to do, bodie steps back, then climbs on top, likely adding more pressure but then rescue plan becomes crystal clear. after attempt to lift, firmly
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plants pajamaed feet using what some call superhuman feet to give it a good shove. with that freed after harrowing two minutes and no scratch. then mom wakes up and checks the feed from the boys' room. >> i saw the dresser had fallen down, no kids to be seen. jump out of bed, fling open door. >> says find kids playing as if nothing had happened. she and husband turned to nanny cam for answers. >> how did this happen? and watching unfold for minute and a half. >> he's strong but we think there's a little bit of extra help in there. >> wrote we're thankful for the bond they share, we know brody is not alone moving dresser off
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and feel glad he's okay and now some internet people saying it's hoax. why was the nanny cam pointing directly at dresser, how did the parents not hear it fall and why was it empty? shaws say -- find the father's connection to the company who sells the nanny cam very curious. told cnn it's simply a coincidence. >> it's ironic it worked at my house. >> both insisting never risk boy's safety for a stunt. why put in harm's way. >> say goal is raise awareness. >> lot of people are like i bolted my dresser now. >> thank everyone hads didn't turn out worse than it did. coming up. fans of "the bachelor" won't
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time now for the ridiculist, the newest season of the bachelor tlt is upon us. the premise sounds like it should be illegal but become an institution. it's 21st seasonment show is 21, can legally drink and it's going to need it. watch this from the season premier a few nights ago. >> i like that. >> so excited to meet you. and dolphiniteely can't wait to
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talk more inside. >> first of all flipped of the andy cohen costume. even if he didn't care for the joke, she came in with a real sense of -- porpoise -- anyway. shall we move on? just keep going? purpose. get it? after 20 seasons i guess you got to do something to stand out. >> when i think about finding the one. it's a strong personality and feels empowered and truly my partner. >> okay that's best cutaway ever. it's all about drama in the house but what do the other women think? >> woman dressed up as i dolphin or whale. >> shark or dolphin? [ bleep ]. >> dolphin. >> it is a dolphin?
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>> dolphin. >> i still think it's a shark they ripped off from andy. i take it back, bachelor tlt do not marry that woman. clearly wearing a shark costume and think it's a dolphin. one question. if you are in fact a dolphin -- i'm not going to say that. man. i'm not going to say that. the writer of this segment wanted me to ask where is your blow hole? i'm not going to say that. she's got shark gills and teeth, she's a shark. shockingly in bachelorville correctly identifying animals is low on the priority list. >> i love she's wearing heels. >> she's my spirit animal. >> i want to be friends with the dolphin-shark. >> i've been swimming with
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sharks. i know a shark when i see it. >> is that a dolphin call? >> she's calling for him, cutest thing i've ever seen in my life. >> okay. you're just milking it. >> for the record sir, you cannot milk a shark. the shark's name is alexis of course, 23 and according to information on the screen wants to be a dolphin trainer. that's it. morphed into the series that spoofed it called "burning love". >> i hope you like nice things, i have a lot of money. >> i have numbers. 135 [ bleep ]. >> that was my social security number. >> i know. >> a cougar. >> i don't want physical appearance to distract you from the real me so be wearing this costume until we get to know
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each other a little bit better. >> makes sense. i feel like one of these women could end up my wife or fiance for a while. >> in the end aren't we all dolphins swimming with sharks and looking for true love? at least on television and the rid lick list. "cnn tonight" starts now. >> dd looking for ways to rein in the power of the top intelligence adviser. sources say the president-elect wants to limit the power of the director of national intelligence. this among his twitter feud with the people who risk their lives to protect us. what will happen in the briefing? and inauguration day is 16 days away. marching band at odds over whether to perfm.