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despite being arrested, despite the notoriety, because of the operation i continued to work very successfully for 32 years as a covert cia officer. as a former fbi agent and chairman of the house intelligence committee, i had oversight of all 16 of our nation's intelligence agencies. my name is mike rogers. i had access to classified information gathered by our operatives. people who risked everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories from the people who lived the fear and the pressure. until now.
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almost every nation in the world spies. most nations in the world spy against the united states. we are the number one target. there are at least 70, give or take 10, nations spying on the u.s. if you were to believe there are probably in excess of 100,000 foreign agents working in this country. that's not paranoia. that's a good guess. my name is chris simmons and i was a career intelligence officer with the intelligence agency before i headed counter intelligence analysis for the team. it's a pentagon's intelligence. the focus on the national
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security structure of every nation in the world. the way we became engaged with this case was a woman who led part of the fbi investigation took initiative and they explained you and your team are the best there are on human intelligence and we are part of a spy case that involved cuba which was dragging on for three years and we are frustrated. you can help us? i was so concerned about the damage they could have inflicted and we will continue to have lived it. i called scott carmichael who was head of the investigation. >> i love being a spy hunter. i love the chase. nothing would make me happier than for somebody to say well, scott, we know that's not occurring. we have the few tidbits of information, can you help us
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out. you bet. unknown subject investigations. those are investigations where you have good reason to believe that espionage is occurring. you have absolutely no idea who might be doing it. fbi was trying to identify a cuban spy who was in the d.c. area and they knew a few tidbits and they had no idea who the person was and where they worked. >> that's a problem. what they were talking about is the possibility of a cuban agent with access to classified information. cuba does not pose a threat to the united states. the intelligence and even venezue venezuela. >> what makes cuba important.
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it's the world's biggest trafficker. i say that in the contact. whether it's political or economic or military, every country has interest in the united states. and cuba and the ability to steal secrets and they outperform almost every nation in the world. >> cubans are good for several reasons. at the start of the cold war, the russians and all of them saw the cubans as useful partners that would not draw attention like they would. the russians, the poles. every service in the world trained the cubans. cuba exploited that they are not a threat. they are getting more clients
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and situations that they have chinese and russians to do. they can do it easily. >> building the case is like putting the puzzle together. the challenge is you don't know what the puzzle looks like and you don't know how many pieces there are. the fbi's case, they had three distinct pieces of the puzzle as they shared the puzzle pieces. it turns out i had the fourth puzzle piece. that fit perfectly into what they had just share and when they put it all together, i told him they are looking in the wrong place. doing what you shared coupled with the fourth piece of the puzzle. there are 40 or 50 people that
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can do what they can do. they are even more narrowly in the building. >> what was the information that the fbi had? what did they show you? >> the information that they shared with us remain classified to this day. it would reveal some of our methods that the cubans are not yet aware of. >> some of the methods and systems that the dia employs to get information about other country's actionatives are so sophisticated. espionage is so dangerous. if you tell other countries the united states is able to do this, they will then guard against that. that degrades our ability that
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our war fighters need in the event they go to war with some country. that's the problem. for most of the years they work for dia, i was the investigatoi. if you were engaged in espionage on my watch, that was an a front to me. i hate that. i think it's betrayal that gets me. how dare you. one investigative lead and the station at guantanamo, cuba during a time frame. that was the best. the people who traveled to gitmo required permission to do so and they submit the request by message. it's searchable by key word. it only took me moments to commit my query. the system produced a hit file. a list of messages. about 100 of them.
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>> the second they saw her, they said oh, shut. i knew anna was the queen of cuba. the senior analyst in the entire u.s. intelligence community. she had more time invested in the study of political affairs regarding cuba than anybody else. the security plans were top secret with access to special intelligence. this stuff is so extraordinarily sensitive that only a handful of people would be given access to this. someone in anna's position could as you exceptionally grave damage to our collective security and she could do that in a moment. that means a greater possibility that our war fighters who are our enjoys and girls will die.
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that's why this is not a game. i went into shock. at that moment i realized i'm the only guy outside of havana who knew that anna was a major spy. now, this was not the first time i saw her name. during the course of the interactions, i developed a gut feeling that there was something wrong and suspicious about this woman. so when i saw her name again, i knew. she was the spy that they were looking for. four years earlier in april of 1996, one of our employees came to me expressing concerns about anna. he said her actions in a specific incident caused me
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great concern. >> ladies and gentlemen, i have been briefed by the national security adviser on the shooting down today of two american civilian airplanes by a cuban military aircraft. >> on the 24th of february, 1996, the cuban military shot down two aircraft operated by a cuban immigrant group called brothers to the rescue. two civilian aircraft piloted by three american citizens were shot down in international airspace. >> do you have relatives? >> our son. >> that was the murder of three american citizens. now, in response to the shoot down, the government scrambled to figure out what happened and how we might respond. one of the first people that the pentagon called in to advise them was anna mant as.
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in that circumstance, when the pentagon calls you in, you must stay in place until you are dismissed. it doesn't matter how long. if you are there for two months, you stay there until the senior leaders no longer have a need for your expertise. he called the pentagon shortly after 8:00 p.m. to ask anna the question. but she left. he thought that's odd. reg thought that her actions and leaving the pentagon early was suspicious. so the first thing i did was took a look at the records. everybody has a security file. i reviewed our files on anna and what i found was a model
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employee. anna had been working at the dia since 1975 and never had a security violation and lived modestly. she was the kind of employee that supervisors hold up for others to emulate. the assessment that she might be a spy just didn't make a lot of sense. nevertheless, i decided to interview her. anna gave me great answers to most of my questions. then when i started questioning her about going home and did anybody see you, her entire demeanor changed. one minute we are joking and laughing and having a good time and the next minute she is scared to death that i know something she did. i have no idea what it was. i didn't know what was going on. i walked away from that situation with a gut feeling
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that she was hiding something from me that was very important to her. that gut feeling played a major role four years later in september of 2000 when her name popped up on that screen. so i contacted the fbi. i met with them and i told them, look, i have an employee who i think it your suspect. the fbi had additional data they were employing to measure suspects. new information which i had not previously possessed. i refer to it as a template. anna did not matchup against that template at all. the fbi told me on the basis of this information, i can eliminate your employee as a suspect and they had a lot of confidence in the validity and used it as a trump card. from the time i left the meeting until the time i took the
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elevator ride down stairs and found myself on the curb, i knew anna was at work three miles south in the headquarter building. i could just picture her in my mind's eye. that woman was in my building pulling this crap on my watch. placing our entire nation's future at risk. she was going to get the hell out of there. i needed the fbi to be able to make that happen. what i did was said we are going to persuade the fbi that anna was the spy they were looking for. i realized that i had to attack the trump card. you know i work at ally. i was being romantic. you know what i find romantic? a robust annual percentage yield that's what i find romantic. this is literally throwing your money away. i think it's over there. that way? yeah, a little further up. what year was that quarter? what year is that one?
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the next morning on a saturday the 14th of october of 2000, i got up and i couldn't sleep very well. i was so upset about the trump card. because what i knew about anna did not matchup against that information at all. i knew she was the agent they were looking for. it was her. i never doubted my intuition. the next day i spent most of the day examining the trump card. i discovered something.
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i discovered a pattern that i recognized from something that i learned in an eighth grade statistics math class. my math instructor told us if you ever see this pattern, you need to understand the fix is in and somenipulating the data to get the out come you are looking at. it can't happen. it hoo h to be the cubans. the fbi was using the trump card that was being manipulated. they didn't know it. at that moment, i realized that i had cracked the trump card. i wrote up an eight-page memo and i faxed the memo to the fbi. about an hour later, steve coy called me and the first thing he said was scott, i think we have
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gotten off on the wrong foot. i think we will be working if are a while. the only way we successful was to work together. at that moment, i knew we were going to be okay. one of the thing that is the fbi did was to assign an agent by the name of pete. >> the first time i heard the name was at the christmas matter in 2000. i knew the fbi had gotten the name of the suspect, someone who may have matched one of these. you have a name and i would love to work with you on this. he said yeah, sure, i would appreciate your help. we worked the case together with
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him. we are the lead agency for the united states. we bring charges and there is a lot of pressure on us to get it right. knowing someone is guilty and fundamentally different that they are proving someone is guilty of espionage. let's validate the claim. she is an agent and who we are looking for. let's try to catcher in the act. national security letters are hugely important for the fbi. it's a letter issued by the fbi that compels financial institutions, credit institutions, telephone companies to relinquish critical information and once he is identified as a suspect, we open
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full investigation that allows the opportunity to use national security. we had very sensitive intelligence that told us that the unknown subject performed a specific brand, make, and model computer at a specific period of time from a store in alexandria. through national security letters, i identified anna's line of credit and we knew she made a person in october of 1996. in april 2001, we served a letter at comp usa and asked them could we identify a purchase made here in october of 1996? they said we keep records that far back behind the store and keep them for about five years. this was april of 2001. the records were almost destroyed.
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was request resources on her. >> we had a lot to do. they put cameras in and microphones and tapper phones and all that sort of thing. >> we started doing physical surveillance on montez, her patterns of behavior and her routine. >> watching her, we saw that for example she would leave her home on sundays at a precise time and go to the local metro and get on and go several stops and get off and walk. stop at locations and wait 60 seconds and wait 90 seconds. very methodical and thing that is a normal person doesn't. from that standpoint, you knew something was afoot. her shoe came untied and she tied it. was she signalling someone in or doing counter surveillance? over the next several months, they said we have a pattern. she is leaving work at
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particular times and following a route. here's the route. she is going into drugstores. she doesn't come out with a bag. what is she doing in the stores? turns out she was using the pay phones. >> not long ago we had pay phones everywhere. using them were not suspicious, but when you had a cell phone, you have a home phone and we have phones at the office and the fact that you go on a couple of blocks off your normal route to and from home to use the pay phone, that is suspicious. >> once we did the legal paper to get the records from the pay phone, we saw that she was calling pagers in new york city. those numbers we knew were associated with cuban espionage. our suspicions that she was punching in codes.
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three or four digits. she was communicating with a pager. she was sending signals that told us she was still active. >> we saw her making all these pay phone call, the timing of which corresponded with high frequency messages being transmitted from the d.c. area from cuba. >> even before she was identified as a suspect, we knew the cubans were communicating to agents via high frequency messages that would have been picked up using a short wave radio. the cubans would send a message on a tuesday and twice on thursday and twice on saturday. we knew that communicating to the cubans via the i had frequency mess annuals required encryption and dekripgz disks. it's not like they were sending the messages out in the open
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air. they were encrypted so no one else could read unless you had the matching software that the cubans gave to their agents. in order to catch her in the act, we needed to get into her home. we were trying to find the disks. she lived in a 30-tenant ownership building. a huge challenge without getting detected. our surveillance taught united states she had a boyfriend who lived out of town in florida. her traveling to visit her boyfriend memorial day weekend 2001 gave us a long opportunity to get into her apartment covertly and do a physical search. when we went into her apartment, i was absolutely nervous. it was hot, no air conditioning
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and although it was a small apartment, there was a lot to look through. the risk of getting caught is tremendous. the last thing you want to do is compromise the investigation or water the plants when you didn't plan on it. we started searching her apartment. it was out in the open under a window. we found the toshiba laptop stuart. our experts made a copy of the hard drive so we could analyze it and see what was on it. as she received had tried to
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delete what was on her computer. in the deleted space we found almost 11 pages of single spaced text in listen and spanish. in that text we found defense information that montez gave to the cubans that was classified. that was a hugely successful search. we could find the kisks and we could read the messages while she was getting them and know what the messages were between her and the cubans. sses will nep as they age and grow. whether it be with customer contracts, agreements to lease a space or protecting your work. legalzoom's network of attorneys can help you, every step of the way. so you can focus on what you do
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perhaps she was keeping this data on a personal. perhaps if her purse. >> the objective was to get it her purse and get it back without either anna or coworkers having a suspicion. >> we came up with a plan to separate her from the purse. we had insider access to her daily life. what occurred to us is we can create a fake meeting she would have to attend. >> we gave her a major speaking assignment and it wouldn't look good for her to have a purse on her material. we kuled it for 9:00 in the morning. we wanted her to have time to settle in by 8:00 and put her
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purse in a drawer to secure it. and she did. >> all the ascendees were pe trared to do a discussion on the very important issue. they went into her cubicle to do routine maintenance and had access to her purse. >> while she was at the meeting, we had a short period of time to go through her purse, looking for the disks. it was a typical woman's purse. cosmetics and wallets and a lot of purse-type stuff in there. we looked and search and couldn't find the kisks there. >> so we couldn't find exactly
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what we were looking for, but we did find something. inside anna's purse, the fbi found a sheet with a matrix which was scripto material that she had when she communicated and that was what we were looking for to determine the cuban intelligence. >> once we had her codes, it was a matter of going to a phone, punching in the same codes and then we just match it against the messages that have been sent and would be sent in the future and know exactly what she was telling new york. she did not perceive herself in danger and she was setting up the case officer or spy publicer that was every second week. we could get her convict and put
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her in prison. she had the potential to be one of america's most dangerous spies. >> i was sitting in my boss's office in a building about a mile from the pentagon when 9-11 occurred. >> oh, my god! >> we riveted to the television screen. we got that this was a terrorist attack and it was significant. i sat in there for another 20 minutes or so and i saw a puff of smoke to my right. the puff of smoke persist and turned gray and began to billow and the news coverage came out about the aircraft hitting the pentagon. i didn't see the impact, but i knew what was happening.
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we had just crossed a threshold and the united states of america was going to formulate a response that would require the assistance and the support of the intelligence agency. >> in the aftermath of 9/11, they assembled a task force for the operations in afghanistan. she was among those to be chosen for the task force. >> on saturday the 22nd of september, she was going to be briefed on the war plan for operation enduring freedom to remove the taliban from afghanist afghanistan. if she gained access to the war plans, she could give it to the cuban who is in turn would be happy to trade that information or share that information with our adversaries, including the taliban. in that event, all of our plans that we executed in operation
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enduring freedom would have been known to the enemy. i knew that our investigation with anna was coming to an end. >> we really wanted to catch her in the act of committing espionage with her handler who was handling and receiving the classified information, but we knew it was just too much risk and potential damage to keep her at dia and it's a sensitive time that we were launching a war. it was time to arrest her for experience to commit espionage. i am totally blind. i lost my sight in afghanistan. if you're totally blind, you may also be struggling with non-24. calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. with not food, become food? thankfully at panera, 100% of our food is 100% clean. no artificial preservatives, sweeteners, flavors, or colors.
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when 9/11 happened, we knew we had days left in the investigation. >> we really wanted to catch her in the act of committing espionage, but it was just too much risk to keep her at dia at such a sensitive time when we were launching a war. it was time to arrest montes for conspiracy to commit espionage. >> the fbi decided they'd like to effect the arrest over in our building. we decided to bring her down into the offices of the inspector general. >> so, we were going to arrest her at work, but we still wanted to try and get her to make some incriminating statements.
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if we could get her to say things about her espionage in an interview before she's arrested, that would be a good thing for the prosecution. >> we started our interview. talked to her about this scenario that wasn't true, that there was a defector that came out from the cuban intelligence service and he talked about a penetration of the u.s. government. and quickly into this pretext, ana had this interesting physiological reaction. there was a rash that immediately broke out. they were on the side of her neck facing me. i could only see them. i had to kind of control myself and not go, look at that. she has this rash breaking out. so, she got them under control, and she was very focused and very firm. getting through this story,
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montes wised up to it and asked if she was under investigation. and at that point in time, we told her she was under arrest for conspiracy to commit espionage, handcuffed her, and her life changed from that moment on. >> pete came out of the conference room with ana. she was in handcuffs, and i saw them walking down the corridor, if you will, towards me. she was almost standing in front of me, and she never looked at me. i doubt that she had any real idea as to what role i might have played in her capture. >> we're pleased to announce this morning that 45-year-old ana belen montes plead guilty, charged with espionage. it is a result between miss
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montes and the united states that will require her to fully cooperate with law enforcement by providing information relating to all criminal and/or intelligence activities of which she has knowledge. >> as part of the plea agreement, she got 25 years for espionage. and in exchange for that, she agreed to be fully debriefed by the fbi and the rest of the intelligence community. she was debriefed for about seven months, exhaustively, probably three times a week, five or six hours a day. >> during ana's debriefing, they took her from the earliest days in 1985, when she started, all the way up to the day of arrest. >> what did you learn? >> we learned she betrayed us in el salvador, compromised all of our military operations in central america, throughout five years of the secret war during the 1980s. >> and to think, here was a
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woman that would literally sit across the table from special forces teams going down range and pretend to be their friend, and then as soon as the meeting is over, contact her cuban handlers and say, you have another special forces team going on to el salvador. they'll be at this location on these dates. good luck. happy hunting. i'm convinced she willfully and intentionally took every action she could to get americans killed in combat. it should make us all enraged. >> people from the intelligence community, every individual that she met from the u.s. government, if they were going to cuban covertly, she identified who they were and what their true mission was versus what their stated mission was. >> a lot of the information she shared will remain classified to the american public. isn't that ironic that information that you cannot read was read in beijing, moscow,
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tehran, cuba. there is no way, even in six months of daily, all-day interrogations, you're not going to get everything that a career spy did in 16 years. we will never fully know the damage that she did to the united states. during the time we were debriefing her, we learned a lot about her motivation for being a cuban spy. >> so, in 1984, 1985, montes was working on her masters degree in international relations at johns hopkins university, and her mutual friend saw her in class, knew her opinions, and knew that she was diametrically opposed to u.s. foreign policy and what we were doing in that time period which was 1984, 1985. ana felt that the united states did not have a right to impose their will on other countries, especially in central and south america, and really disagreed with u.s. foreign policy at the time.
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her friend sensed that she had this passion that the cubans would be interested in. she was introduced to the cubans via a diplomat, their undercover. he recognized she had a visceral empathy for the cuban plight for the cuban cause. and that's folks who they really reach out to and ultimately trust to be their agents. >> ana's cubicle was devoid of anything personal. it was all devoted to business. but ana's cubicle wall posted next to her computer monitor was a piece of paper, that was lined and written in script, the king hath note of all they attempt, by interceptions which they dream not of. >> fidel castro is aware of all of their plans by some secret means they can't even imagine. this was an inspirational quote
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she posted to her wall so that every time she was down at her computer, she could see it and motivate herself as a spy. you know, people commit espionage are a place in our -- are placing our collective security at risk. our boys and girls in uniform who are fighting battles for us are going to die because somebody stabbed them in the back. that's what espionage is, death. and that's why guys like me work so hard to find these people. i have told people that hunting for spies is like trying to find a ghost in the fog. and you've got to believe, first of all, that they're there. and then you have to have enough drive to keep looking.
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as a former fbi agent and chairman of the house intelligence committee, i had oversight of all 16 of our nation's intelligence agencies. my name is mike rogers. i had access to classified information gathered by our operatives. people who risked everything for the united states and our families. you don't know their faces or their names. you don't know the real stories from the people who lived the fear and the pressure, until now. the taliban regime was ruthless. there wasn't anything that they wouldn't do.
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