to him sometimes. >> the book again is "audacity," great read, and thank you for being with us. we are following a lot of news this morning so let's get right to it. >> it was inappropriate for president-elect to be stepping in the politics of other countries. >> let's see how long that lasts. >> donald trump with a historic low approval rating head into the white house. >> when you see something that is not right -- >> the question of his legitimacy is disappointing. >> we hope that these democratic members of congress reconsider, and they are certainly welcome to the inauguration. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. donald trump will enter the

white house with the historic low approval rating, and only 40% approve of the transition, and 52% disapprove, and that approval rate something lower than obama took office. >> the poll also shows 53% of americans are less confident now in mr. trump's ability to handle the job than on election day. many americans are still confident mr. trump will make good on some of his signature promises like creating good-paying jobs, and 61% say that is likely. >> we have a guest to discuss the big numbers and what is going on in the world and the specific needs of the military. arizona senator mccain, chairman of the armed services committee. good to see you again, sir. >> thank you, and good to be

with you. >> what do you make of the numbers? why are they going the wrong way for the president-elect as he enters office? >> i think you can assume it's because he seems to want to engage with every windmill that he can find rather than focus on a large aspect of assuming the most important position on earth, and obviously -- apparently, according to the polls, many americans are not happy with that approach, when he has not even assumed the presidency. >> churchill said you can't make any progress if you stop along the road to deal with every barking dog, fair enough, and you are suggesting there's a bear, and how much are we seeing in the polls of the president-elect's apparently sheltering and placating of russia? >> i am very concerned about the

statements about russia, and this is a guy that used precision-guided missiles to hit hospitals, and of course he continues his dismemberment of crimea and ukraine, and the list goes on and on, but i also am concerned about his comments about nato, and chris, if i could refresh your memory, we were attacked on 9/11, and not any of these countries and they sent their young men and women to serve in afghanistan, and over 1,000 were killed in afghanistan, and not because they were attacked but because we were attacked, and the nato agreement says once one is attacked all is attacked, and they were not attacked but we were attacked, and we should never forget that. >> fair and strong point.

the president-elect saying nato is obsolete. what is your message to him in light of the concerns that we are hearing out of germany, out of china and out of the european union. >> obama has harmed it, and i want to thank trump in saying he will increase the spending in defense, and i don't think the world is 21% safer, and second of all, obviously the world is on fire thanks to a total bismol failure of leadership for the last eight years, and tell vladimir i will be more flexible

when i am elected, and isis is the jv, and the list goes on and on and along with congress cutting on defense, and i have a plan to increase the spending and restore the military, and we better do it because the world is on fire and they got the message about a weak america. >> i will circle back to the politics. what do you want the american people to know about the situation with the u.s. military? what needs to be done and what are the prospects for getting it done? >> i blame congress has well as barack obama for the mindless sequestration, and they were flowing out good and bad programs, and congress has not done the job we should have done, and i am glad the president commented on that, and we are going to have to rebuild our military, and we have the smallest army and air force and

navy in modern times, and we will have to rebuild and spend more money and reform the way we do business, but right now the advantage that we have held for the last 70 years is now being eroded as the russians and the chinese have increased their capabilities, not to mention iran and other nation states, so i think we need nato more than ever, and we are also facing a long-term battle against this radical islamic extremism, which clearly we have not won. >> part of our military strategy includes intel, and what do you think about him disparaging the intel community and relating their behavior to nazis. what do you make of that? >> i am sorry to see it, because it helps neither the

intelligence community, which has not been infallible, we know that although they are vital, of course, and this kind of confrontation cannot be helpful and i am worried about the morale of these men and women who labor out of the spotlight in the shadows defending our nation in the intelligence business. they are incredible patriots, and i -- i don't want to see their morale hurt. >> so one of the big keys, of course, going forward will be the cabinet position, specifically secretary of state, and the president-elect's nominee is rex tillerson, and you have decided or not whether or not you are going to vote for him? >> i am not and i had another conversation with him yesterday and he explained better to me his relationship with vladimir putin, and chris, i just -- when i see what vladimir putin has done in the way of literally

committing war crimes intentionally, i point out again, precision weapons used in aleppo to strike hospitals and kill innocent men, women and children, and that's just an example. i question the recipient of a friendship award with vladimir putin. see my point? >> i see why you are raising questions, and what are you going to do about it? you said you have not decided about yet, and how much thought are you giving to how you are going to deal with these situations if they continue the same way, if the president, then, not just president-elect, says i trust merkel and putin going forward, you know, and the equation between those two people, and how are you going to deal with those two as you go forward? >> i have a very close relationship with general mattis and general kelly, and i know and respect general flynn a

great deal, and a lot of the people that are going to be around the president i have known for many years, and i trust and respect, especially those individuals that i just mentioned, so i want to work with the president. i know i can work with the secretary of defense, secretary of homeland security and others because i have in the past, and so i will look forward to the opportunity of working with them, and look, the world is on fire, chris, and we are in more danger than in 70 years and the european union is under the most strain, and the refugee problem continues and the chinese with their most aggressive behavior, and vladimir putin continues to play a major role in the middle east, and he was absent from the middle east a few years ago. >> last question, because a lot of the tone will come from the top. if we look at what is going on

with congressman tom price now, and there are ethics questions coming out about past trades and i know he has a good reputation in congress, and he is the only one with a semblance of a plan to do something with the aca, and you have the pressure from the top of the governmentet et e ethics, and you have somebody with the conflicts that are going to pass on to the senators that are going to vote, and are you concerned about that? >> i think it's important that we add here to the constitution, and that's the senate's responsibility of advise and consent, and we are an armed services committee, and no matter how qualified an individual is, they still have to pass the advise and consent aspect of any nominee, and i don't know that much about congressman price's qualifications or lack of, but i do know that we need to exercise

our constitutional responsibilities, otherwise we are guilty of not doing so. >> we are going to have a transition of power in a few days from now, and president obama will be outgoing, and you have your criticisms for what you see, specifically with foreign policy. is there anything that you would congratulate the president for as he leaves now in terms of his legacy? >> i congratulated him many times going back to november of 2008. he was a stateman to the world that america will elect a person as president of the united states no matter what their race, color or creed is, and it was a signal and something that all of us can be very proud of. >> senator john mccain, we look forward to seeing how these hearings go, and we understand the importance of the military spending bill, and you are always welcome to come here as it makes its way through the

process to make the case. >> thank you. always glad to be with you. >> the pleasure is ours. be well, senator. >> thanks. in just minutes we have woodward and burnstein, together again. the journalist discussing a very important situation, the cnn report, what they each make of this situation journalistically on the show. and the underwater search for malaysia airlines flight 370 that we remember vanished three years ago, and 239 people were onboard, and searchers spent millions of dollars and scoured thousands of square miles of the indian ocean, and in a joint statement, the officials said they did not make the decision lightly or without sadness. and then the manhunt for the nightclub gunman is over, and arrested the suspect and four

others in a hideout in an istanbul suburb, and we know that for a fact, and however the city's governor said the confessed shooter confessed, and we know 39 people died and dozens more people were injured in the early morning hours of new year's day. a u.s. citizen is among five people killed in a nightclub in mexico. authorities are ruling out terrorism. they believe the incident was from a personal dispute. and the american citizen was killed in the crush of people trying to get out. we will talk to a democratic congressman that has not decided whether or not he will attend.

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a number of democrats say they will not attend mr. trump's inauguration. about 20% of the democrats in the house of representatives say they will skip it, so will this move cast a shadow over what is normally a momentous celebration? joining us is a member of the congressional black caucus. >> good morning. >> are you going to go to the inauguration? >> not decided yet, and listening to the issues and over the mlk weekend i was talking to a lot of my constituents and i think there's a lot at stake here. >> what are you waiting for? >> if i go it's not to celebrate, and it's there to understand the office of the presidency of the united states of america, and i want to make sure if i go that i am in the face of this president and know he can not get around me and other members of congress. i see others he is talking to, and they are not members of congress that deal with policy issues and i want to deal with the policy issues and challenge him and go back and forth,

something that did not take place during the debates. >> there you have it. isn't the peaceful transfer of power and that tradition in our country, doesn't that trump any personal beef you have with any incoming president? >> which is why i am considering going and i don't want to be there, and it's good we are having the peaceful transfer of power, but i would not hangout in a celebration with an individual who says it's okay to grab women by their private parts are calling individuals who happen to be of mexican descent rapist and criminals and started the birther movement -- >> wouldn't he say all that was in the past and that was during the campaign and now it's time for a new page and to move forward and attempt to have some sort of progress or unity for the country? >> that tells me who he is as a person, and so i don't like him as a person.

i do have to deal with him because the electoral college has determined he will be the 45th president of the united states, and that's why i am considering going and i want to be in his face with a legitimate agenda for the people i represent and for all americans. >> was your colleague, john lewis, wrong, to say that mr. trump is an illegitimate president? >> congressman lewis is not wrong, and he has earned the right and respect and he has put everything on the line for this country and he, indeed, is one that made this country great. >> you are the person that said the electoral college voted for him and -- >> that is correct, and john lewis is right to make his statement of his beliefs because he put his life on the line for the country, and donald trump has never done anything for anybody other than donald trump. it seems to me if the president-elect wanted to do the right thing instead of coming back at john lewis, he should

have said i would love to sit down and talk to you on how we could make this country moving forward and how we can work together on policy that would benefit this country and let's have a dialogue in regards to that as opposed to what he has been doing with everybody, calling people names. >> of course, he is understandably upset that he was called an illegitimate president because he was elected legitimately. >> you cannot respond in methods that are immature and child issue. >> cnn found a couple of clips of mr. trump back in 2014 where he had a very different take on russia than what he appears to have today. so let me play those for you and get your reaction. >> mitt was right, and he was also right when he mentioned in the debates, and russia is our biggest problem and they are not strong economically. >> we should definitely be wrong

and do sanctions and we have to show some strength. putin has eaten obama's lunch, and therefore our lunch for a long period of time. >> he said we should definitely do sanctions, and he doesn't feel that way, it sounds like, anymore. what has changed? >> i don't know, donald trump has flip-flopped through the whole election campaign, and i think we are going to have to confront him. i think we are in a very serious scenario domestically and internationally, and that's what has a lot of individuals concerned about his presidency. no matter who you talk to, as i walk the streets and go across the country, americans are concerned and i sit on the foreign affairs committee and as i talk to individuals internationally, they are concerned. they are asking people to come to talk because they have no clue what donald trump will do as president. >> what is your biggest concern? >> what my concern is, when you start making statements as he has with regards to russia, and

whether nato shouldn't exist and the eu, that has an impact on the economy when you are picking fights with china, and with mexico, and you know, with all of our allies, and those have consequences. words have consequences, especially if you are the president of the united states. you cannot just go on and get on a twitter and put statements out and think you can govern and legislate in that manner. >> he also picked fight with the intel community, as you know. mr. trump is understandably, i think, upset that this dossier of opposition research that included some wild and unconfirmed accusations about him got leaked, and he likened it to nazi germany, and what do you make of the rif with the intel community? >> mr. trump has to understand everything is not about him.

when you are the president of the united states, it's not about you and it's about the country. when you are the leader of the free world, it's not about the country but about the world, and it's so small and interconnected that we have to figure out how to do this thing and work together, and mr. trump if you go by his life's work, it has only been about him and his family, and as president of the united states, it has got to change. and it's only the american people that are going to be able to compel him and force him to change and that's where our voices have to be loud and clear. >> perhaps we will see you at the inauguration later this week. thank you so much for being here with us. >> good to be with you. >> what is your take on all of this? you can tweet us @newday, or

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is going to interoffice on friday as the most unpopular incoming president in decades. a brand-new cnn orc poll shows 40% approve of how trump has handled the transition. >> the president-elect now tweeting about this moments ago, and he said the same people who did the phoney election polls and were so wrong are doing approval polls and are rigged.

>> just to be clear, it was within the margin of error, this race, clinton ahead of the president-elect, four points and sometimes three points, and some of the state polls were off, but clinton won the popular vote by just under 3 million votes, again, within the margin of error. let's get to the bottom of line now with award-winning journalists, together again on our air, reunited and it feels so good, gentlemen, great to have you both here. karl, let me start with you. it's not a surprise mr. trump would not like the latest approval numbers, and so what is going on? >> he's right. he's the president-elect of the united states, and he won the election, and he is taking a

little bit here at the way the press is playing some of this. we know what the tweets are about and we are familiar with them now and he has thin skin, and no surprises and i don't think it's a huge story and there are much more important things going on than the poll numbers and we have a president-elect of the united states who raised all kinds of questions with the intelligence community and people in congress and with the black community, and a unique situation, a troubled country, troubled at his come into the presidency, and along with the fact that he has some great and enthusiastic support, and that's more important than the numbers. >> bob, we see a little bit of the coming together with the two, policy and messaging with this poll on the specific issue with confidence and the intelligent community's assessment of russian hacking, and we have a whole spectrum of

likeliness of what people see, and donald trump was very slow to that conclusion, and some would say he has not fully accepted it yet, and how does that play out in your mind? >> well, he said it. i think the intelligence community has come up with a good assessment and has good intelligence, and as trump has said, russia is behind the hacking. but card is right, there is not about polls but it's about what he's going to do as president. there are -- if we were to list the questions on a white board or in any form we would be on the show all morning, there are so many things that need to be answered. my approach, and i know karl's approach from the work we did 45 years ago, that you have to look

at what are the facts, who are the witnesses, what is the quality of the evidence, and we need in a very aggressive but fair way to explain what he's going to be doing as president, and it's going to be a hell of a story. >> bob, i want to stick with you with one second because you said you believe the dossier that was presented by the intel community to mr. trump as well as president obama, it included the opposition research with wild unconfirmed a unconfirmed accusations about mr. trump and you called that a garbage document and what did you mean by that? >> first of all, the meeting that the intelligence chiefs had with trump was to go over their very good assessment of russian hacking, and then they added, as cnn first reported in a terrific

story because this is news, this two-page summary of this dossier that is full of all of these unconfirmed allegations. i have read those 35 pages, and the quality is not good, and it is the sort of document -- they tainted the good report they had on russian hacking by including this, and they shouldn't have done that. >> the intel community. >> they should have found a channel to make sure trump got it maybe through the white house counsel. >> fair criticism, but in terms of the cnn reporting, what did you make of our story? >> i thought it was exactly right, and it did not go into the unsubstantiated detail, but it said that the intelligence chiefs presented this to trump, and that clearly is news, and i

thought it was done in a very restrained, accurate way, and the cnn story said, look, we can't substantiate any of this so we are not going to publish the details from it, and somebody else published the detail and it's out there and people are going to be looking at it, but you have to jump into trump's position and as karl and i learned many years ago, chronology is important, and before trump was elected a lot of the former intelligence chiefs attacked him, said, oh, he's an unwitting agent of the russian federation, and said things about him, which, of course, he didn't like, and then all of a sudden this two-page summary is presented to him, and

he says, wait a minute, is this fair, and in my view it was not fair. >> fair enough, bob. where are you now, karl? >> part of the extraordinary elements of this story is what bob just said, the idea that the intelligence chiefs of the united states of america would assert that the incoming president of the united states is questionable in terms of his relationship with the russians is absolutely an astonishing starting point for all of these stories. and where does some of this come from? some of it comes from the fact of his lack of transparency about his business dealings. what did donald trump own in greater russia, and not just russia, but greater russia, the old ussr, and what does he own and who does he own it with and how much does he owe to people in that part of the world?

we know almost nothing about his underlying finances despite that dog and pony show he did the other day with all those envelopes and his lawyer that we are not allowed to look for, and whether or not as "saturday night live" indicated there's anything in the envelopes. this is a big story, and we need to know what does he own and how much does he own and what is it. >> bob, you were going to make a point? >> yes, and there are all kinds of questions here and they should be addressed and i think lots of reporters are looking at them, but for the intelligence chiefs to pass on a summary of something that is totally unsubstantiated, james clapper who is the head of intelligence and the director of national intelligence, and afterward said it was not an intelligence community document, and there

was no verification of it, and, you know, that has no place in an intelligence briefing, and i think they undermine the main point they were making in their good intelligence report that russia was behind the hacking here, so my view, they made a mistake, they should have found another way to get this out, but this is in this model of who is donald trump, what are his relations, and carl is exactly right, we have to find out -- but it's not the job of the intelligence community to go out and give him a summary in an intelligence briefing of stuff that is totally unsubstantiated. >> they made their determination and it can be criticized, but my question is, i am not hearing

any part of your analysis in the response to that. i get why he wouldn't like it and i get why you would say maybe it was not the right venue, but the president-elect's response was to undermine the legitimate see of the intelligence community and shelter russia from responsibility to the attacks and conflight the reporting of cnn and buzzfeed and call us fake news. where does that factor into your analysis about the president-elect? >> well, first of all, i mean, they -- they did say that russia was behind the hacking, and trump has agreed. that's the key issue -- >> he paused when he said it. he said, i now think it was russia, and as you know, he thought that conclusion a long time, and he said he had information -- >> well, this is the whole problem of reading exactly what

he is saying and what he means, and at the same time, the whole approach by the intelligence community, by journalists, has to be fair and aggressive. to do this was a mistake, and cnn in their initial report acknowledged that by saying we're not going to go into detail, and the intelligence community said, oh, by the way, this was not an intelligence document, and we can't substantiate any of it, so they made a mistake. my view, they should -- apologies are cheap, and they should apologize -- >> the intel community? >> he needs to have good relations with them, and the idea this has gone off the rails is a tragedy for national security in this country. >> carl, sum this up for us?

>> first of all, i am not sure an apology is due. there could have been a different channel. the fact is the intelligence chiefs of the united states thought this information needed to be brought to the president-elect of the united states and the outgoing president. might there have been another channel? that's up to those guys. but the real summation here is we need to know substantively much more about donald trump, his relationship with russia, greater russia, russians and his business affairs and how they relate or don't relate to what he is acting on as president of the united states, and the conflicts of interest, and this inner face of the intelligence community which has little trust in him, which is extraordinary, and how does this situation play out. >> woodward and burnstein, still at it.

>> you have a few seconds. >> very quickly, look, these relationships between a president and particularly the cia, it needs to be a relationship of trust, and they need to be able to talk to each other in a very direct way, and they have to deal with some of the most sensitive operations that are going on this minute. >> yeah. >> and it's not something you pollute that relationship when you throw in a summary of something that is totally unsubstantiated. >> okay. great points, both of you, and great to have you together here on our air. thank you very much. so there's a new film and it tells the true story of how ray crock turned mcdonald's into the multibillion dollar business it is, and michael keaton is here to tell us about it next. >> he doesn't look like he is

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>> yeah, it is. an amazing story, actually. >> it is an amazing story. what do you we need to know about ray crock? >> first of all, the front half of the movie, i have great respect for and a really hard worker, and he was not given anything and did it all on his own, and worked hard and created this and had a vision, and was a visionary, and his focus was remarkably intense, and i didn't know there were mcdonald's brothers, did you? >> no. >> the story is interesting. you could argue that ray was the original, without knowing anything, the original brander. >> funny you say that, because so many people said this movie is incredibly timely, not because of mcdonald's but

because of donald trump, and the headlines, this is the film celebrating mcdonald's, and michael keaton super sizes mcdonald's and births trump's u.s. what is the connection? >> i will give you the big difference. the president-elect -- wow, that's hard to say. there's no doubt he probably worked hard. i can't judge that, i was not there. but he was given a big jump monetarily, right? he just was, and ray crock was not, ray crock had nothing and he built this up himself, and in terms of, you know -- >> packaging and sloganing, and creating something, golden arches. there's a lot of those

parallels. >> i wouldn't draw those parallels -- those particular parallels. this is alleged, by the way, and this is the alleged parallel, that it was the -- and this probably is close, the inscrupulous. ray did some things that were, and so did the president-elect. >> why do you trip over the term "the president-elect "? >> because it's a worrisome thing, and we could be here a while, and i don't believe in real quick sound bites because i think that's unfair to everybody, and look what you were just talking about, and let's start with that, with woodward and burnstein, and that's insane. and we were just talking about the movie called "spotlight" --

>> yeah, about the catholic church, in scandalism in boston, and journalism cracked it. >> you have to be relentless and can't settle for one or two sources, and they did mess up, and i would not back off, and i would come out, and -- even though they said we are not substantiating this and there's no truth we feel it's necessary to be exposed to some degree, and they should say we made a mistake and we admit it, and if they cower now, disappear and say we are not legitimate, that's a mistake. >> that's not what they are doing. you have to have rock solid sources if -- >> i agree. and the problem is, it sets you

guys, and it sets the times -- it sets a lot of people back, because that's a great target now for people that want to think this way anyway, to say that's ridiculous. >> we saw that happen. >> the flip news, and you flip that and use fake news as an advantage. >> we saw that, and it did happen that mr. trump was presented with the dossier, that is real journalism. you feel like you know all of this world because of "spotlight," and -- >> and we should talk about the founder, and "spotlight," did a great job of explaining how real journalism works and that's important to me. >> what did you learn about the founders? what did that teach us about what works well? >> this is a classic, and this is story of the free enterprise system, capitalism, and people

want to keep saying the dark side of capitalism, and i am a believer in the free enterprise system, and what it meant at the time in america, and how it pertains -- how relevant, i guess, it is now, when you consider how many wealthy -- there was a list the other day of the 10 top billionaires in the world, and i don't have the statistics, but it's the top third, and more than every one in the bottom third of the world. >> very entertaining, and as you are, always a great job. you can catch "the founder" in theaters nationwide. and we will have a quick break, and see you tomorrow. thank you. and start to cause what we call acid erosion. if there's a thinning of the enamel, the teeth actually start to appear more yellow. with pronamel, it is making your teeth harder and stronger

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this is cnn breaking news. >> good morning. i am carol costello, and we begin with breaking news this morning, and vladimir putin just accusing the obama administration of trying to undermine trump's legitimacy, and saying attempts are damaging to the united states and compromising material against trump is, quote, obviously, fake. let's get right to jill doherty, and she's a former cnn