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majority nations from entering the u.s. congressional democrats will hold an event tomorrow to demand that the president withdraw the order. confusion rippling through u.s. airports, some people are still detained even after judges in several cities granted an emergency stay for those affected by the ban. the legal maneuver did help get dozens released though, including a 5-year-old boy at washington's dull us airport. he was detained for hours while his mother waited and of course worried. the homeland security department just released this statement, quote, we are and will remain in compliance with judicial orders. we are and will continue to enforce president trump's executive order humanely and with professionalism. all that in a moment but first the white house just moments ago held a closed-door briefing for reporters and our white house correspondent athena jones is there. give us the skinny on this. what did you learn? >> reporter: a lot of pushback from the white house and what
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they consider to be not accurate reporting in the media about this travel ban and so they sought to i guess clarify a few things and express the fact -- to us the fact that they say they're extremely proud of what they've accomplished so far. they talked about a seamless implementation of this executive order, saying it is a really massive success story in terms of implementation on several levels. they say that from the beginning there should not have been any confusion about whether this travel ban applied to green card holders, also called legal permanent residents. from the start that those green card holders were exempt from this travel ban but went on to say they don't automatically get waved into the country. it's just that these green card holders are able to apply for a waiver and be exempted in, waived into the country. one official said that as of 3:00 p.m., that was the last check, some 170 or so green card
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holders or legal permanent residents were waived in. another thing that was interesting that they pointed out, we learned yesterday that this executive order had been in the works for some time, certainly during the transition. but they also said that several of the top immigration staff on capitol hill were involved in helping to draft these executive orders involving immigration, and i can tell you from my colleague jim acosta, the senior white house correspondent here, a top g.o.p. aid is saying we were not involved, i'm not sure who that official is referring to on the hill. so a little bit of a discrepancy there. one thing i want to note is that one question that came up is what happens after this 90-day pause. is it possible that more countries could be added to this seven-country list. one of the officials would not commit to predicting what could happen in the future in terms of the list expanding or contracting but they said that the overall goal here is to establish a vetting process by
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which people seeking permanent admission into the united states can be able to meet the standard of truly supporting our country and loving its people and embracing its values of tolerance, diversity, pluralism and not holding any views of violence, hatred, bigotry or oppression towards any particular race, class, gender or sexual orientation. this official said it will take a while to get there, it's going to require a rethinking of the interview process, a rethinking of what kind of checks are performed and what kinds of procedures are in place. really the white house trying to come to its own defense to justify the moves its made to continue to make the case that they did so because they feel that the current vetting process is, quote, woefully inadequate and to push back on what they think is unfair criticism by people including in their own party. >> they are getting some of that and then folks just not supporting them and staying mum.
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athena jones at the white house, thank you. now to the station's airports. on both coasts the u.s. capitol and in the south and midwest, you have major american airports attracting large and loud crowds of people who are angry with this travel ban and they're outraged that millions of people are being not allowed to enter the united states. we have cnn's rosa flores at chicago o'hare and in los angeles we have dan simon in l.a.x. dan, you are there. set the scene for us and tell us what people have been saying and what they're telling you. >> reporter: brianna, this protest at l.a.x. was supposed to end an hour ago but as you can see they're not going anywhere. protestors basically taking over the arrival and departure areas. it has been entirely peaceful but you can see these police officers who are monitoring the situation to make sure nothing gets out of control but so far
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these protestors are acting very peacefully. you can see they have their signs, their messages about this executive order and their displeasure with donald trump in general. now, we are told by attorneys who are representing some of those who have been detained that there are still a few people who are in custody, who are still detained, but we don't have a precise amount. we were told a little while ago that at least one person had been released. this is an iranian refugee who was in custody for about 24 hours. we were told that border patrol went through her cell phone, went through her luggage and then determined that she could go. but once again, still some people who are in detention here at l.a.x., as you can see. this crowd obviously still very loud and boisterous and it doesn't appear they're going to be going anywhere any time soon. >> we can actually see people
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behind you with the protestors and their suitcases. already, dan simon, thank you. i want to go to rosa flores now. you're in chicago. tell us what the scene is there, and it also seems like really folks are going to be hanging out for a while. >> reporter: brianna, take a look behind me. this is the arrivals lane here at chicago o'hare for the international terminal, and you can see that the crowd has been growing probably for the past 20, 30 minutes exponentially here. we've been moving back and seeing more and more people arrive. now, i just got an update from the immigration law clinic, the pseudo immigration law clinic that is inside this terminal helping immigrants and they tell me that they're still seeing individuals with green cards being held probably for maybe two to three hours. they're asking them a lot of questions, but they are being allowed to leave the airport.
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i talked to one family from syria. it was a young man with his mother. he said he was terrified. he was accepted to dental school in indiana, and so he described it as, quote, being terrified because he thought that his american dream was shattered because he thought he was going to be sent back. he was very emotional, but he was allowed to leave, and didn't want to talk to us for very long because he said he just wanted to go home with his mother. again, as you take a look and me here, a lot of people exercising their first amendment rights, speaking out for the individuals who can't exercise those rights, those immigrants who are being held in airports around the country or who perhaps are in fear of speaking out. brianna? >> rosa flores in chicago o'hare airport. let's turn our attention now to a major transit hub in north texas.
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a number of travelers detained at the dallas-fort worth international airport have been released and they were welcomed by hundreds of protestors who had gathered to protest donald trump's immigration band. dallas mayor mike rawlings joining me on the phone. mayor, you met with those who were detained. tell us about that. what did they tell you about the experiences that they had? >> well, it was an emotional time. it's been a heart-breaking 36 hours but we've gotten through it. nine of our guests were detained and all nine of those are now reunited with their families. a lot of tears, a lot of joy, but a lot of anxiety. they said that they appreciated the hospitality of everybody at the airport and everybody that
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was supporting them. this notion that everything went seamless was just not true. there's no reason, they said, that the airlines couldn't have been contacted immediately when this policy was put in place. there was no need for them to get through this problem. but there wasn't much bitterness. there was really just a love that they were here in dallas. >> so what did they go through though? did they describe this, how much time they spent -- >> yeah. >> who they had to talk to? >> they were all put in a room, a salon they called it, and we were able to bring water in and they had to spent the night. many of these families have been traveling for four days. they've had no showers, they've had very little sleep and they didn't knowhat was going to happen. in fact, one lady when she was taken from the airport to the place to meet the family wouldn't get out of the car and
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go in the building because she thought she was going to be detained again. so i'll tell you, once they got with those families and i saw the tears flowing and the joy flowing, it was a great moment. >> so where do you go from here, and is there anything that as a city you are trying to do since you are home to this huge airport? >> well, first of all, we want to welcome all these folks and we're going to do it family by family. we've got a great international community, and we're reaching out already to these families with support. we're going to support the students at our colleges, the families came over to be with them. and then we're going to make sure that we have a good relationship with the customs officials at dfw airport that is
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growing. this surprised many of us. everybody was very cordial. there wasn't any animosity, but it was just a bad plan, badly executed. >> you rebuffed that description by the trump administration that this was seamlessly executed, and you cited the idea that people would be coming in the air and could be turned away, that this was something that wasn't communicated to the airlines ahead of time. was there any other way that you saw that this could have been emented more fluidly? all you have do is say we're going to start on monday versus starting on saturday morning. there's not issue about why you couldn't have waited two days and let everybody -- >> they said they were worried they would be tipping their hands to terrorists who might move up their timeline to try to get in. >> i think that paranoia speaks for itself.
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>> mayor mike rawlings there in dallas, he visited with several of these detainees who went through quite the process getting in, as you see there, some being reunited with their families to great cheers by supporters and some protestors there at dfw. mayor, thanks so much for being with us. this hour is just getting started. we're going to continue to watch protests in several cities in response to president trump's travel ban. stay with us for that. you are live in the cnn newsroom. y282uy ywty
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people angry about president trump's travel ban have been protesting today from los angeles to kansas city to atlanta and other places. the president defended his ban saying, this is not a muslim ban as the media is falsely reporting. this is not about religion, this is about terror and keeping our country safe. let's talk about this now with our political panel. cnn commentator jeffrey lourd
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and a muslim-american playwright and "new york times" contributor. jeffrey, we saw this, we saw some of the confusion at u.s. airports. that's undeniable. you had washington's governor jay ensly saying that his airport got three bullet points from donald trump's team. they had no formal instructions on how to implement the ban. what do you say to those critical of the rollouas the white house is insisting that this was seamlessly implemented? >> from the white house perspective it was. listen, i've been in government, brianna, and i know that the best intentions, no matter who's the president, that there can always be confusion on these things but the white house feels things have gone very well. let me add one other thing here. i've been around the block as it were, and i've seen these kind of protests since i was a kid. the subject always changes, sometimes the chant are almost identical. we have a real issue here. president trump is doing exactly what he said he would do. there are people who opposed it.
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the election was held -- >> can i ask you about that because you said he's saying what he said he would do. because he promised a muslim ban and now he seems to be delivering, and yet also insisting it's not a muslim ban. figure that out for us. >> i read the same white house release you did and there's 40 countries with predominantly muslim populations and they're not affected by this at all, right? >> no, that is true and there's a number of countries where people looking at this say, look, if you're going to do this appropriately with terror threats, they really messed up and didn't put a lot of countries on there that should be on there like saudi arabia. >> let's go back to the obama situation. let's recall how that came about, that somebody came into this country as an iraqi refugee and later the fbi found out after he was already resettled in bowling green, kentucky, that his fingerprints were on an exploded ied in iraq.
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>> they paused for six months in 2011. >> not 90 days. >> anyone will tell you looking into that that it's not apples toapples, it's apples to oranges bec the broadness was very different than what we're talking about here. >> the objective is the same, to keep americans safe. i applaud what president obama did. >> the implementation not the same. >> everything is going to be different here but absolutely the intent is to keep americans safe. we've too many dead americans in america at the hands of people, whether it's ohio state where people were threatened or the university of north carolina or boston and the marathon or san bernardino or god knows 9/11. this is not acceptable. we cannot -- >> but no refugees, jeffrey. none of the perpetrators were refugees, jeffrey. let's be honest here. >> they were all advocating radical islam, let's be honest. they were all advocating.
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>> so are you saying that refugees, syrian refugees responsible, escaping right now a civil war which has killed over 500,000 people -- >> of course not. >> why are we banning syrian refugees but making an exception for christian refugees. of course this is a muslim ban. >> because, quite obviously, syrian refugees, 198 of them landed on the greek island who went on to kill 130 people in paris. it's common sense. >> you're going to violate the constitution and make an exception for syrian christians but we're going to be so hard-hearted that we're not going to invite syrian refugees. these are seven muslim majority countries that he's labeled. zero foreign nationals from these countries have killed an american in a terrorist act on american soil. this is hateful, divisive. >> one of the countries on this list is yemen and just today an
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american soldier was killed in yemen. why was he killed? he wasn't killed because he was fighting fundamentalist baptists from liberty university. he was killed by radical islamists, in this case al qaeda, killed him. >> are you saying all citizens from these seven muslim majority countries are radical? >> common sense, common sense. these people are there. >> can i ask you a question about how do you balance because i hear what you're saying. there are zero, you're right, there are zero. someone made a point earlier that it was aqap's mastermind bomb maker who was responsible for the underwear attempted bombing on a flight from detroit, the person who had that bomb obviously not from yemen but this was something that had in a way you could trace back to yemen. clearly there is a concern. do you give that credence that
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some people are really worried about what they say being a bigger problem in europe and they don't want that to happen in the u.s., and how do you balance that and implementing something to make sure it doesn't happen in the u.s.? >> of course we should have a concern. first of all, that underwear bomber was from nigeria, not the seven countries on this list. >> i'm talking about the okay administration of the device. >> a muslim ban is going to be ineffective, counter productive and our enemies will say, see, the west is at war with islam. now if you really want to do this musan i don't recommend targeting innocent people bed on national origin just because a terrorist came from that country. 15 of the 19 hijackers from saudi, one from egypt, one from lebanon, none of the countries mentioned. donald trump has business in saudi arabia, in oae and egypt.
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if you put saudi arabia on that list which will never happen, a lot of republicans, jeffrey, where i'm at in d.c. will lose their mortgages because they're subsidized by that country for lobbying. we have the most extreme vetting of any country of refugees. it takes up to two to three years, a 20-step process. intelligence agencies vet them. zero refugees have killed americans and terrorist attacks. this is so hateful. this is so closed-hearted. we are betraying american values here. people come to this country for refuge and you're denying them and people holding legal visas. a story, my friend jessica from uc davis law school yesterday said she's not muslim, not arab. she went to sfo airport 11:00 p.m. she said a 7 month pregnant iranian woman legally here on a visa who came back from
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switzerland was not allowed in. how is that humane, how does that make us safe and how are antagonizing muslims abroad helping our allies who by the a are fighting isis and al qaeda, what do they say, i'm going to fight isis and al qaeda but america will not allow a brilliant student to come and get an education. is that really american? >> jeffrey, answer that. >> so, when we let out of compassion an islamic woman come into this country on a k-1 fiance visa because of her grand love for her american boyfriend and she shows up in an office building and murders 14 people because they're at a christmas party because she came here with the dlib rant intent -- >> she would not have even been caught under this and you know that. you know where she came from -- >> it's the whole system. >> it wasn't one of these seven nations. >> was she a radical islamist?
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the answer is yes. >> how can you use that as an example when what you're defending would not have prevented -- no one thinks that she should have been let in, and yet you're defending something that wouldn't have been caught. >> that is not true. i am saying that the whole immigration system has a problem. that is the president's point. clearly there is a problem. how did this somali kid get in to study at ohio state and then he tries to mow down students and go -- >> jeffrey, you're on shaky ground, man. look, i think the president's problem is that he's catered to hate and division and racism. >> that's baloney. >> you think it's baloney. you think he doesn't have racism in his campaign had he called mexicans racist and criminals? >> hello. ask the father of jameel shaw. >> i'm asking you about donald trump, the man who you supported. >> gentlemen, i am unfortunately going to have to leave it there.
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i know you both have very strong opinions about this. i appreciate you, jeffrey, lourd and rashsha, thank you so much for being on. we have much more straight ahead. you are live in the cnn newsroom as we show you this live pictures coming to us from chicago d protestors at the airport there. audi pilotless vehicles have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks. and now much of that same advanced technology is found in the audi a4. with one notable difference... ♪ the highly advanced audi a4, with available traffic jam assist. ♪ ltry align probiotic.n your digestive system? for a non-stop, sweet treat goodness,
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by president trump this weekend restructured the white house national security council, turning it into something that senator john mccain calls a radical departure from any national security council in history. we have major general james spider marks. he is our military analyst with us today to talk about this. there's a couple of changes here, general, as you noticed. one is steve bannon, the president's top aid, is added as a permanent member, and we've seen other folks sort of in his role, maybe not as controversial an advisor as him be present at these principals meetings, but the other big thing is no permanent member dni, no permanent member chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. what do you make of that? >> yeah, it's unfortunate and i find it quite shocking, primarily because i know a number of the folks that are involved in the national security council that's being
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formed right now, and this doesn't make sse to me. brianna, two things in particular. one is the chairman of the joint chiefs is the principal military advisor for the president, the secretary of defense and the national security council and national homeland security council, so that makes no sense that you wouldn't want to have a uniformed voice in the room as a matter of routine. then secondly, the other thing that's troubling with this is not having a dni as a permanent rep. the director of national intelligence as an intelligence individual, the senior intel guy in the room, that guy or gal's primary purpose is to be a contrarian, to provide context and pushback on what might seem like good strategic or policy issues to provide the context of what's going on in the broader horizon and that's that individual's primary job. to exclude that individual moves you now in the probably more
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inex rabble path of making this a strong policy body which is why you would see somebody like mr. bannon in the room which i think is unfortunate. >> we're looking at some live pictures out of seattle of a protest of president trump's travel ban. what do you think about the fact that you have iraqis for instance who may have been interpreters or in other ways aiding u.s. forces and there are arrangements for those folks to come to the u.s. and ultimately pursue citizenship and they are being caught up on this, on hold at this time. should there be an exception for those folks? >> great question. yeah, i think there should be. the iraqis, we've been -- the united states has been a part of the iraqi landscape for the last 15 years. we've been side by side. we've some huiccups, some
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challenges, but our in-state is to move forward together. they are trying to reclaim mosul and making sacrifices to reclaim a land that they want and they want independence for and they charge themselves with getting that done. for us now to exclude them as a haven for terrorism is a very, very bad message. that needs to be pushed to the side. there needs to be an exception for that immediately. we could talk about the other countries. we could talk about those that aren't on that list, but i think the iraqis, immediately we need to lift them from that ban. >> general spider marks, thank you so much, really appreciate you being with us. there are protests that are just popping up in airports coast to coast. stay with us because we will bring this to you live, and you are live in the cnn newsroom. ew, really? oh, it's our verizon bill look at them. line access fee, administrative fees, there are even taxes on top of them. decent people shouldn't have to live like this
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people opposed to president trump's travel ban gathered to protest today from los angeles to kansas city to atlanta, and the president defended his ban saying this is not a muslim ban as the media is falsely poing, ts is not about religion, this is about terror and keeping our cry safe. let's talk it over now with the man who has advised donald trump on national security issues, james cara fan know. he's the heritage foundation's vice-president of foreign and defense policy studies. he was a member of the trump transition team. james, it's interesting because
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you actually were an advisor when it came to dhs, to the department of homeland security, and really between the election and between the inauguration you knew that this was going to be coming. why then was this -- a lot of people have looked at it and said this could have been rolled out a lot better. he could have had a better understanding of how this was going to go from department of justice lawyers, and the department of homeland security could have been looped in a lot better. >> i did work on the transition team and the first thing is there's only one president at a time. so you really can't go into a department and start issuing orders before january 20th. so there is a limited amount of things you can do. and i would also say in terms of the drafting of the orders, if there's one thing the transition team didn't lack for it was a lot of lawyers. so the notion that no lawyer looked at this or didn't have any competency on that, i'm not sure there's a fair criticism. i think what's fair to criticize is the administration hasn't been out there kind of defending
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this thing as they might have could. and i think part of that is because they've been so anxious to roll so many executive orders out the door. i'm actually -- i think by next week we'll probably have another wrath of executive orders and we'll all be talking about something else. >> why didn't they defend this video sif russly and it also seems as if -- you say that but donald trump himself issued a statement today and he seemed to try to put a softer spin on this and then you had the head of the department of homeland security talking about how green card holders aren't going to get caught up in this. >> i would say that the president's tweet is actually 100% accurate. the purpose of the executive order is to deal with the emergent threat, so it's not about politics, it's not about campaign promises. it's about the reality that tens of thousands of foreign fighters flowed into iraq and syria, and
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as isis loses space, the remaining foreign foighters are going to outflow -- >> but he made a promise at a time when there was a big concern about isis. >> all i can talk about is the reality of what we talked about in the transition team which is not about politics and campaign promises but about national security. everybody agrees that the foreign fighters are going to outflow to those seven countries and two likely flows of exit is either by getting a visa or going through the refugee stream and we know that because we've already seen it happen. that was the purpose of the executive order, period. >> i want you to listen to what the british foreign minister said about the travel ban. >> the only people celebrating are extremists around the world who want to tell people around the world that america wants to shut their doors to them.
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the only people propagating this gift is isis and al qaeda for who this plays into their narrative. >> james, we've heard some republicans raise this issue too, that this is something that will ostracize muslims, and could make some of them even more sympathetic to terrorists and their message and this could be a great recruitment tool for isis and al qaeda. is there a point there? >> no. i've heard that kind of silly criticism before. here are the facts that we know. president obama came into office dedicated to show a more positive face and more positive engagement in islam and that started with his speech in cairo. this administration spent eight years trying to show a positive face in this issue. the face of terrorism has exploded over the last eight years. there are more terrorist attacks globally and against the united states. if it's just about talking nice, then we wouldn't have seen the
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threat metastasize like we have. i think it's similar plastic and stupid to argue that there's a linear relationship between one thing and the other. to suggest it's true -- >> but wait -- mostly what we see is people's view on this is based on their politics, not based on the facts, period. >> james, he's -- and this isn't my opinion. i'm talking about people who have given advice to donald trump or publicly said things. for instance, general david petraeus in the past has said you engage in talk like this and it is a recruitment tool. you basically just -- i mean you just agree to disagree. >> for example, one of the things president obama said was that gitmo was the greatest recruitment tool -- >> but i'm talking about -- >> let me finish. >> no, no, james. see the difference between president obama and donald trump on this. i'm talking about someone like general david petraeus who donald trump considered having
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as a part of his cabinet and republicans who are saying this. i'm not talking about president obama. are you saying they don't have a point? >> i'm not talking about any advisers because they can defend their own comments. i'm just saying as an analyst who factually looks at the data, we haven't seen that kind of correlation. people said that gitmo was the greatest tool, recruiting tool, that isis ever had, and yet people who have looked at the data found that that was not true. they could not find a direct correlation between gitmo and the propaganda that isis was using. >> i'm talking about the language. >> what i'm saying is isis hasn't done any recruiting yet so for people to draw that conclusion, what they're doing is projecting their politics and their views and their beliefs and that's fine, they can do that. they're entitled to their opinion. but as an analyst that looks at the data, traditionally what we've seen is when we have these arguments about this is isis's greatest recruiting tool, 99.99%
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of the time that reflects a political opinion as opposed to the reality of what isis does and what actually motivates people to take up the cause of terrorism. >> i will say there are some certainly military voices out there that disagree with you on that, respectfully, i'm sure. >> that's fine. they can do that. i just deal with the data. >> james, thank you so much. we certainly appreciate you being with us and bringing your insight, especially as someone who advised the trump transition. we're glad you could be on with us, and we are going to be right back. staff meeting. noon? eating. 3:45? uh, compliance training. 6:30? sam's baseball practice. 8:30? tai chi. yeah, so sounds relaxing. alright, 9:53? i usually make their lunches then, and i have a little vegan so wow, you are busy. wouldn't it be great if you had investments that worked as hard as you do? yeah. introducing essential portfolios. the automated investing solution that lets you focus on your life.
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another breaking news story that we're following tonight and this is one that could have some huge consequences for anyone who is traveling tonight or tomorrow. delta airlines says its system is currently down in atlanta where its headquarters is located. what can you tell us? >> reporter: brianna, this is where we were in early august. it was an issue with the delta system so as a result so many people were affected and people, their travel plans were essentially frozen and that's what we see again here. atlanta hartsfield and there are massive crowds that are literally just watching and waiting to see how soon their travel plans will be back on track. here's what we know about what took place. according to delta airlines officials there was a technical issue with the system that
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regulates or at least monitors their checks and balances. as a result they then turned to federal authorities at the faa who then implemented a ground stop. as a result, planes are not getting in or out. we understand that planes that were in the air were allowed to land and -- brianna, this is something you don't see very often. look at the baggage claims on what is usually a very busy night at one of the busiest airports. we are told it could be a matter of time before these systems get back online. in the meantime the folks here have to wait and then the folks who are stuck on airlines on tarmacs also have to wait to see how sooner how much longer it's going to be before they end up in this terminal. guys? >> this is incredibly frustrating. all right, we know you'll keep an eye on that polo sand yoefl for us. coming up, the white house
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defending its travel ban. while thousands protest trump's travel ban, after the break, the aclu raising an eye-popping sum of money and we'll tell you about whether these protests could lead to a movement. you are live in the cnn newsroom. have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks. and now much of that same advanced technology is found in the audi a4. with one notable difference... ♪ the highly advanced audi a4, with available traffic jam assist. ♪ (ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh) (hush my darling...) (don't fear my darling...) (the lion sleeps tonight.) (hush my darling...)
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each week cnn's faried starts his show with his take on a particular story in the news. today he shared his theory on president trump's travel ban. here's what he had to say. >> here's my take, donald trump's executive orders suspending the entry of syrian refugees and anyone from seven muslim countries is filled for request for reports and information. the department of homeland security, the state department are asked to provide information on the numbers of foreign terrorists, and then to issue progress reports on the policy with more data within one and three months. so let me save the government some money and offer the data right now. alex of the cato institute, a conservative think tank tallied the number of americans killed by citizens of the seven countries banned from 1975 to
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2015. they are as follows. from iraq. zero. from iran. zero. from syria, zero. from yemen. zero. somal somalia, zero. and sudan, you guessed it, zero. incidentally that number from saudi arabia is 2,369 from the uae 216, why certain countries are on or off this list is truly mysterious. some newspapers have noted correctly that none of the muslim majority countries that have a trump hotel building or office are on the list. more broadly, it is pointed out that including 9/11, the chance of an american being killed by foreign terrorist on u.s. soil over that 41 year period is 1.36 million per year. being killed by a refugee, your
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chances are 1 in 3.64 billion per year. there's no rational basis for this policy. what explains it then? i suppose what's explained so much of donald trump's political career. the exploitation of fear. from the birther campaign to the talk of mexican rapists, trump has always trafficked in fear mongering. this time, to stoke those fears and present himself as the country's protector, he chose to punish ordinary men, women, and children, who are fleeing trichlt and violence, willing to brave the odds, bear the hardships and separate from family and home, all to try to come to america. these people are the road kill of trump's. but something sells being destroyed along with it, the image, reputation, and goodwill of the united states as the bee kochbt world. as someone noted over the past few days, donald trump seems to want to turn off that lamp on the statue of liberty.
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>> and you can watch every sunday at 10:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m. only here on cnn. well the air waves have been dominated by the growing opposition to president trump's temporary travel ban from seven majority muslim nations. our cameras have stayed focussed on the numerous protests at international airports, and also marches in major cities around the u.s. the american civil liberties union announcing that it has received some 290,000 online donations this weekend, that totals $19.4 million. but what about the trump supporters who like what the president calls extreme vetting? cnn's reliable sources host brian skelter joining me to talk about this. what do you think about -- there are a lot of people who support this. >> absolutely an example of divided america. you know, there was a quinnipiac poll a couple of weeks ago suggesting a policy is
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essentially what the trump administration put in many ways, it was supported by 48% of americans. almost half in half in the country in terms of the idea behind this ban. now we'll see in a few days and the weeks to come what the polls show now that these pictures are being seen by the entire country. it'll also be interesting to see if president trump's approval rating rises or falls. we know he's been a record low level for a new president in the modern era. we'll see if he rises or falls. you mention the aclu, i spoke with the spokesman for the aclu about this just a few minutes ago. these numbers are extraordinary. the aclu, it's sort of a cliche, right, to be a card-carrying member of the aclu it has a certain kind of liberal in the united states. well, now they are gaining new members by the hundreds of thousands. according to to the aclu, just this weekend, $19.4 million in donations on the web, normally, for an entire year, they get
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about $4 million from online donations. so that's five times as much just in one weekend. and by the way, it'll be over 20 million, they don't know for sure until tomorrow morning. what's most important, they're bringing in new members encouraged by celebrities like rosie o'donnell, wanda sykes, billy iker in, lots of celebrities on twitter saying go support the aclu. it's causing a lot of donations. it's interesting to see online effort to support these groups at the same time we're seeing these offline protests. >> and what do you think about the coverage of the travel ban? this is certainly something that has irked the white house. they don't feel like it's fair. they say this isn't a muslim ban and the media is misrepresenting it. >> well looking at these pictures, i'm struck as a visual person, the things about the coverage. when's the last time you saw a protest at an airport? there's something about the imagery here, especially the ones at jfk and l.a.x. and all the airports in between that made this even more news worthy.
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of course we've seen here in seattle, we saw it at other locations outside airports as well this weekend. this organized very quickly. it is true, some left wing groups have been helping make this happen, the aclu is one of them. there are many others providing financial support, but you think about the role of digital media and social media in organizing these protests. it's something that caught democrats and congress off guard in some cases by how fast this happened. you know, brianna, last weekend the conversation was, is this just a moment or is it a movement? is the women's march just a moment? i think what we hear now, we hear the roar of these crowds. we see the potential for a movement. maybe in some ways like the tea party was born in 2009. i'm not sure what the name of this is, but it is reminiscent of the tea party, but in the opposite direction. this time on the left instead of the right. >> yeah, we will have to see how much influence it has. brian stelter, thank you for that. for international viewers, you're returning to cnn
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international's regular programming, u.s., the next hour of cnn newsroom starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. you are live in the cnn newsroom, i'm brianna kooeler in washington. we have breaking news for you. one of the country's largest airlines is not flying right now. a full ground stop was announced by delta airlines just a short time ago. no delta airplanes are leaving the ground until the company solves what it calls automation issues. cnn's polo sandoval is at delta's hub in atlanta right now. and also with me is mary schiavo, she's our aviation analyst and former general at u.s. transportation department. how many flights are affected and how many people are affected? >> reporter: yeah, that number is tough to tell at this point, brianna. about two hours ago while we were

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