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international's regular programming, u.s., the next hour of cnn newsroom starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. you are live in the cnn newsroom, i'm brianna kooeler in washington. we have breaking news for you. one of the country's largest airlines is not flying right now. a full ground stop was announced by delta airlines just a short time ago. no delta airplanes are leaving the ground until the company solves what it calls automation issues. cnn's polo sandoval is at delta's hub in atlanta right now. and also with me is mary schiavo, she's our aviation analyst and former general at u.s. transportation department. how many flights are affected and how many people are affected? >> reporter: yeah, that number is tough to tell at this point, brianna. about two hours ago while we were sitting here at the
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airport, the voice over the pa system announced that the delta system is down. and that no planes were getting in or out. this is what we've seen here. just people, sea of people, folks that are just literally watching and waiting to see what the future holds in store for them. what happens to their travel plans. these are folks that planned to be leaving atlanta tonight, but as a result they are waiting to speak to agents here to find out what happened. so this is what the airline is saying that that issue that you mentioned, it's a result, the faa, implemented a ground stop for delta airlines. as a result, planes weren't moving. aye spoken to several people, aye been messaging with several people who are out on the tarmac, their planes, as soon as they were wheels down here. they're still sitting on the tarmac. as a result if you look at this, you see the crowds here in the ticketing area, but then you look at the baggage claim area here in atlanta heartsfield, and you can see, it's quite empty. and that's really rare on a sunday. aye flown in and out of this airport countless times and usually on a sunday night, this
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place is packed with the last minute flight coming in from other parts of the country and the world. again, delta airlines right now asking for patience as they try to find out how soon their system will be back up and running and then they can turn to the faa and request that that ground stop be lifted, brianna. >> all right, polo, thank you. mary, how bad does this have to be? this problem, this looks like a nightmare there on the ground, and that's just in atlanta. so, how bad does it have to be for delta or any airline to issue a ground stop? >> well, it has to be pretty bad because we also have to remember in this day and age, everything that an airline does is by computer and it's not just the ticketing and the baggage operations, it's also communication with the federal aviation administration, air traffic control, with movement at the airport. and as our airlines and air traffic control system have gone to a full computerized operation, any glitch in the computer gates cold and the
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system gets the flu. and that's thousand goes. delta had this happen last august too. they cancelled 2,000 flights and 150 million bucks. >> oh my goodness. so what do they need to do in order to get things operational again and what are we looking at? what are the delays and just the slowdowns and the back-ups going to be? >> well welcome every major carrier has had an outage within the past year or two, american, united, southwest, british airways, and what happens in each case, delta had one, and they had to in many cases, kind of do what we all have to do, they have to reboot and sync them. they have to sync them together. if they've gone to emergency back-up, then when they bring the system back up online, they have to make sure serving operating in realtime because of the crucial safety concerns of running an airline and communicating with air traffic control with federal aviation administration. so, last time it happened to
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delta, it took two days to work all the kinks out of this system, cancelled 1,000 flights the first day and 1,000 flights the second day and back up and running. it's not good news for the passengers if it looks like it might be a two day or more glitch. for some of the airlines, it's taken longer to clear them out. >> we will keep an eye on it. sounds like this could be very serious. we appreciate your time. and we have some more breaking news, president trump defending his travel ban, even as attorney's general from 16 states slam it as quote unconstitutional, un-american, and unlawful. protesters gathering in cities across the united states from new york to boston, los angeles, and beyond. all in response to the order that effectively bans 218 million people from seven muslim majority states. muslim majority nations. now a u.s. citizen from yemen says that his brother's wife and seven children were detained at an airport in pittsburgh. >> they placed him in isolation
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in a small room and treated them as criminals or as people who may have committed a crime. they were six years old and seven years old, it's a terrorist just because they came from yemen, then i think where is the humanity? >> now the president issuing a statement that defends the ban, quote, we will continue to show compassion to those pleaing oppression. this is not a muslim ban, this is not about religion, this is about terror and keeping our country safe. m and now another sign of how surprising this travel ban was for some in congress, sources tell cnn a republican congressional aid blasting the white house over how it alerted capitol hill about the travel ban. the aid telling cnn the lawmakers in both the house and senate on the relevant committees are quote pretty pissed about how this went down
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based on earlier drafts, most were anticipating a milder version of this executive order. the aid said the reaction was quote, we see the final eu and say holy, and that is an expletive, what did they do? he also said, our leadership was basically in the dark. i want to talk about these protests now, we have live team coverage across the country. rosa flores is at chicago's o'hare airport, dan simon is at l.a.x. what are you hearing from the crowd there? and this has been going on for hours now at this point. >> reporter: it has brianna, as you take a look around, you'll see that this crowd is actually also growing. there are a lot of people here outside the international terminal. this is actually the arrival's lane, but it has been blocked off to accommodate all of these protesters. from talking to them, i can tell you that they are very passionate about being out here.
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they say that they are here because they are passionate about speaking out for immigrants who perhaps can't speak for themselves because they are being detained at airports or because they are too afraid to speak out. i actually spoke to some of those immigrants who did not want to speak on camera, brianna, but they were very emotional because they were held here at o'hare for a few hours. they were questioned, asked many questions. i did ask one of them, one specific gentleman coming in from syria about his cell phone and about his social media, about his twitter because as you know, we have been hearing those are the questions being asked. and he did confirmed that they took down the cell number and asked him about his twitter feed, the social media sites. he was very emotional, very moved and just left after. now, one of the other things is that they tell us that you know, they hear from american
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politicians all the time that people who want to come to this country need to get in line. they need to get to the back of the line when it comes to refugees, brianna, of course, they have been on the back of the line. and as we've been reporting, freen refugees go through a strict vetting process. so for them, for the thousands of refugees who are scheduled to come into the united states in the coming months and now with this active ban, they have been at the back of the line, but now, they're not being allowed to enter the united states. and so that's why we're seeing a lot of people here who are speaking out for the refugees and the immigrants from those seven countries who are banned with the executive order. brianna. >> all right rosa flores in chicago, thank you. now to los angeles. there is a loud gathering of the protesters at l.a.x. cnn's dan simon is there. what have people been saying to you there, dan? >> reporter: well hi brianna,
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according to an immigration lawyer who is monitoring the situation at l.a.x., there are still some people who are detained, but that is something we have not been able to confirm with federal authorities, but you can see there are still a number of protesters here. this represents really a small slither of those who were here earlier today, but as you can see, the crowd remains pretty strong and they are still voicing their displeasure over this executive order. we should tell you that los angeles has a very large iranian american community. so it's no surprise that you did see the value of people here show up at l.a.x. as you look around, people from all walks of life, all ethnicities trying to get their message out and as you can see by the number of people still here as the sun has gone down. they plan to stay for quite a while. and we're already hearing about some momentum and some efforts to organize another rally
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tomorrow. brianna. >> so, you're hearing that there's going to be something for tomorrow. how are people communicating? is this -- are they just doing this on social media or do you expect the same people to come back tomorrow? >> reporter: well, obviously tomorrow being a workday, we're not quite sure what that will look like, but this is something that took shape really quickly over the weekend. yesterday, it was just a spontaneous crowd that gave momentum as the images were broadcast over social media and through television. today was much more organized, but now they say they want to keep this protest alive. so we're hearing about people wanting to congregate tomorrow and i'm sure those plans will take shape in the overnight hours, brianna. >> all right dan simon, thank you. and coming up, america's make it to the north is sending a message to people stranded by president trump's travel ban. what canada is telling those who might be turned away by the u.s. when we return.
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america's northern neighbor is rolling out the welcome mat to those left stranded by president trump' immigration ban. the immigration minister is offering this impacted by the ban. tell us more about this, paula, this is certainly a statement coming from canada. >> it is a statement, perhaps more subtle and symbolic than really the government wanted us to look they don't know anyone in the situation. what kind of situation, they come to canada? that's people who find themselves stranded because of the ban. and they wouldn't really elaborate more than that, only to say they'd continue to work with counterparts and see who fit within that category. a busy day today in canada's well in terms of people working with the white house trying to
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figure out the ban. what's so interesting here, brianna, is the man who made this decision, the immigration minister here, mr. hussein is somali born. for a while, the government was figuring out whether or not that applied to him, this ban, in terms he could not travel to the united states. the government clarified that and what we got was a back story about the white house going back and forth at the kad aid in yan government, which i'm sure they've done with other governments to say look, if you're a dual canadian citizen or permanent resident of canada, you will be vetted as usual at the airport, but you'll be allowed to enter the united states. crazy day. >> this is subtle, and how is the criticism been of president trump? has it been pretty low key are they being careful not to outright criticize him? >> tryings to underscore the
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government. the minister said from somali himself was asked directly why not condemned. we will tell you that we will continue on those who seek sanctuary and operation as a great, great. boost to our economy's growth and prospertive all canadians, i'll give him a buy on a great, i don't think he meant that as a humorous adjective here. saying look, canada remains open, we'll offer sshlt, but not wanting to get involved in the controversy over this ban. the kind of controversy that you've been covering all day. >> all right, paula newton, thank you for that report. while we've seen massive protests across the u.s., the travel ban is likely popular among many americans. we're going to talk about that and the backlash next. you're live in the cnn newsroom.
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affecting some 218 million people from seven muslim majority countries. and despite images like those repeated in cities all across the country, cnn's own jake tapper learned that white house policy director steven miller told government officials yesterday that the american people are firmly behind this executive order and not to be distracted by what he calls the hysterical voices on tv. trump's chief of staff also refusing to apologize for any confusion. >> wasn't chaos. the fact of the matter is 325,000 people from foreign countries came into the united states yesterday, and 109 people were detained for further questioning, most of those people were moved out. we've got a couple dozen more that remain. and i would suspect as long as they're not awful people, that they will move through before another half a day today. and perhaps some of these people should be detained further, and if there are folks that shouldn't be in this country, they're going to be detained.
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so apologize for nothing here. >> let's talk this over now with our panel. we have cnn political commentator and former reagan white house political director jeffrey lord. muslim american play right and "new york times" contributor. so could trump's team be right here? despite the protests, there are probably a large number of americans who support this travel ban. i think we've seen some research that shows there is a large contention of americans who are right on board with this. >> well, let's not talk about all and ty fact -- alternative, but donald trump lost the majority vote, there weren't three million undocumented individuals who voted illegally. majority of americans are. he has the lowest favoritability of any in modern history. if you are to look outside and look at these beautiful crowds, spontaneously, these women left the comfort of their homes, families, left their weekends to hold up signs welcoming immigrants, visitors, and
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refugees to this country. they are embracing the legacy of america. what makes us so great. these are people with different religions, different ethnicities, in chicago, boston, sfo, jfk, and look at that right now, it's beautiful. i tell all my muslim friends who've been watching this election cycle, my family abroad. is america really like this? do they hate us? do they hate muslims? do they call mexicans rapists and criminal? are they this hateful? i said turn on the tv and go to social media, and look at hashtags, that's america. that's the majority. this multicultural coalition of the willing that is embracing our beautiful legacy of being a sanctuary for people who are looking for some economic betterment or for some religious freedoms, this is a country of immigrants. and one last thing i'll say, happy birthday to my mother, it's her birthday today. she is a pakistani muslim immigrant, who has been in this country for 40 years. she makes amazing food while
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watching the golden state warriors and cursing at donald trump's hateful muslim ban. and immigrants like her, and children of immigrants like me and refugees have made this country great for centuries, we'll keep making this country great. we're not going away. you can't stop us. we're too resourceful, too smart, too talented, we're too loving, and we're going to win. >> jeffrey, i want you to respond to that -- >> can i answer that? >> yes, please. >> well first of all, my 97-year-old mother is in the other room and bang me over the knuckles if i didn't wish his mother happy birthday. >> thank you, sir. >> this is america. this is 100% descended from immigrants, there is no one in america who isn't a descendant, nobody is trying to keep them out. we're all the descendants -- >> except donald trump. >> all the president is trying to do here is protect those of us who are inside the united
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states of america from being killed by people outside of the united states, not just americans, but canadians and french and english and spanish and on and on and on the list goes. that's all. >> jeffrey, wouldn't you agree -- yes, sir, go ahead. >> on the inside and they've got it exactly right, we should not make too much about these television pictures. i remember when there were a million people protesting ronald reagan's cold war policies, he won reelection the following year with 49 states. so just because you've got all these people there doesn't necessarily mean all the american people agree with you. >> so, you could just show how donald trump is so culturally tone deaf, number one signs this executive order on national holocaust remembrance day and didn't mention jewish people, if you're following jewish people,
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neonationals love him. he was watching finding dory and so tone deaf he doesn't realize that's a movie about a fish that's desperately trying to find it's family after being separated. and that's what's happening right now. that innocent people are being separated from their families like that iraqi translator who helped u.s. forces in iraq, he was detained at jfk. his crime, his national origin. or like i said in the last segment, the seven month pregnant iranian woman was detained in sfo. how does this make us safe? it doesn't. it's hateful -- >> it makes us safe because. >> reporter: jeffrey -- can i ask you, we heard kellyanne conway say, these -- whatever, dozens of people who have been detained that it's a small price to pay for safety. and yet, i imagine that even people who really want -- and i imagine you do, but you correct me if i'm wrong, these are not
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good images for donald trump. even if he is doing something that he promised and that people support, he's really motivating so many people against him, it seems like this is not how in retrospect a lot of people even backing donald trump would have wanted this to go down because it doesn't really serve him. >> again, respectfully, i'd say, if in my lifetime where television has become a major force, other american presidents have faced this kind of situation where there -- i mean, not to put a point on it, in 1970, i was protesting the shootings at ken state when richard nixon was president. they shut down colleging all over the country. in a sense, it backfired. it helped president nixon as did the later things i was talking about -- >> and then later resigned, jeffrey. he later resigned. >> well yeah -- not -- >> just saying, i'm just putting it out there. >> i know, but no, he was
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reelected after all those demonstrations. so that's my point. you've got to be very careful and steven miller has got it exactly right here. all of these television images can portray a situation, i know that -- i mean, this is the nature of television. i don't -- you know, i understand that, but other presidents have seen this and then the end results are not the same. >> but jeffrey, have they seen this ten days into their administrations? >> brianna, i'll make a bet with you, we're going to see this through all four or eight years of the trump administration. absolutely. we're going to see this. >> brianna, an entire gender marched against donald trump the day after he was inaugurated. an entire gender. 3.2 million people, the largest marches in american history, marched against him, and he has dropped eight points in one week, and he has the lowest favorability rating. >> i don't know if you can say that was -- i am not trying to diminish how large and
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unexpectedly large the marches were, the women's margin, but certainly these were women who were to a certain side of the political spectrum who did not support donald trump? i mean -- >> come on. >> this is the majority. >> you have to admit there are a lot of people, and even if it's not a majority, it's close to it, who are really supporting this move. >> so brianna, you're right, there are americans, 63 million americans who voted for donald trump, and the recipe he used to get elected is nothing new. it's a molotov cocktail of anger, fear mongering, racism, and hate, and used against -- >> wait, wait, wait -- >> mexicans, women, african americans, and muslims. and he appealed to nationalism and economic uncertainty. and that has worked as a recipe not just in america, brianna, but through other nations. people think he will make america great again by being tough. he was tough, i triple dog dare donald trump, live on cnn, if you want to be tough on national
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security, spend one tweet, 140 characters criticizing vladimir putin who illegally interfered into our elections allegedly to help you, donald trump, and who allegedly has compromising information on you. if he was tough on that national security, he would go after saudi arabia, 15 of the 19 hijackers were saudi and he does business with them. and if he went against saudi arabia and put them on the lais like last time, republicans would lose a lot of money because they're lobbyists. this is fear mongering. >> final word to you, jeffrey. >> final thought, i don't want to veer off into the molotov cocktail. it's the classic recipe of racism plus progressivism to get progressive agenda through. that's a whole other subject. this is not donald trump -- >> let's stay on topic here. we're looking at pictures of -- >> that's besides the point. that is my point. that is my point, the travel ban is something that clearly a lot of americans support, they don't to want see anymore mass murders
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and christmas parties, they don't to want see boston marathon situations. they don't to want see anymore of this in this country. not one more american -- >> but jeffrey, those folks wouldn't have been caught -- this executive order would not have stopped -- >> isis is going -- isis is going out of it's way to infull trait refugee groups with their fighters. and in fact president obama banned iraqi refugees for six months precisely because taken into this country and settled in bowling green turned out to be a bomber, and the fbi -- >> zero refugees. zero refugees have committed terrorist acts against -- >> i'm going to -- gentlemen, gentlemen, i'm going to have to leave it there. i'm going to have to lee it there. >> thank you so much. >> happy birthday, mom. >> thank you jeffrey for wishing my mom happy birthday. >> happy birthday to your mother, of course. >> thank you so much. >> from all of us here. still to come, steve bannon
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detention facility from the initial group affected by the travel ban executive order. the dhs says everyone has either been released into the u.s. or put on a plane back to their home country. amid all the protests and chaos following president trump's sweeping refugee ban, there's this, his reshuffling of the national security council. donald trump gave his chief strategist steve bannon formerly of breitbart news a seat on while downgrading his military chiefs. i want to bring in retired general mark hurtling, you're watching all of this develop, what's your reaction to these changes? >> the first thing i better say is happy birthday to waja's mother as well. my first reaction is the national security council dates back to 1947. it has changed multiple times based on each president's personality and what they've wanted to do with it.
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there are only five members, brianna, and that's the sec state, the vice president, and the director of the department of energy. so the rest of the members can go in and out based on whether the president wants to make this an inclusive body or an exclusive one. from all indicators in looking at the last five or six of these councils, they have changed very little over the last couple of administrations, and it looks like mr. trump has taken literally cut and paste job from bush 43 by pulling in some and putting out some. the one that most concerns me or the two that most concern me are both the chairman of the joint chiefs and the director of national intelligence, not being ones who will be at every meeting. although the nsps which was issued by the trump administration said they would be invited in when necessary. i think they better be in there most of the time given the indicators of security across
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the globe and how even domestic policy issue affects things that have to do with intelligence and security. >> so what happens if they're not there? i mean, when you're thinking of a situation that would concern you, what would that be? >> well, a couple of things. well, it could be anything. it has to do with the state of the military that the chairman could give, budget advice if you're talking about giving budget to one program, it's going to take it from others and sometimes that's the military. how you use the military, it's -- the chairman is the advisor to the president, the vice president, and the sec as well as the national security advisors on all things military. he has his pulse on the military operation. the same thing with the dni, he knows in intelligence better than anybody in that room. they not only can give advice in the room, but they can take it back to their headquarters, the discussions that occur inside the oval office and say, here's what's going on, let's get ahead of this, let's start some planning. and let's direct our resources into different directions.
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if they're not in the room, it's like intending a meeting in a corporation. sometimes you get the work, sometimes they forget to tell you, and that could have tragic effect when you're talking about national security. >> i want to talk to you about the travel ban that we're -- we're seeing all the protests right now, these are live pictures coming from seethe. what about this idea, and we've seen this even play out today, a lot of times -- and this is just a number of say iraqi interpreters or other iraqis who have been very helpful to the u.s. military and you've worked with a number of them from your days in iraq, they could get caught up in this where they're not granted access to come in. what do you think needs to be done? >> well, in this case, brianna, this whole couple of last days have troubled me greatly. and whenever i have these kind of problems and great military mentor once told me, i better look to aristotle and think about logic, reason, and
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passion. from a logic perspective, this ban has given everything to our enemies and taken a lot from our friends. i've heard from multiple of my iraqi friends, general officers and colonels who were in the fight in mosul, we stay in contact. they say what's going on with the united states? we're fighting isis just like you are. why would you president ban iraqis from coming in? there has been discussion in the iraqi government about banning u.s. citizens to include journalists and supporters to iraq based on a tit for tat. isis is reacting, there's multiple indicators they are cheering this move. even though i heard him say earlier there's no indicators that's happened. trust me, this is equivalent to what happened with the scandal. they are launching on this and saying, this is the greatest thing going. okay. that's the logic piece. you take a look at it from a military planning perspective. then there's the belief piece. if we believe what's at the base of the statue of liberty about
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giving our tire, poor, huddled masses and coming into the united states, this is counterproductive to our beliefs. so from a belief standpoint, it's not very good. now i'm going to get into the emotions because you ask about my iraqi friends. there have been multiple iraqi interpreters that i have written letters for to the state department to help get into the country. one of them is living in detroit, michigan, and we still have conversations, he has a family there. he has a seven-year-old child who he wants to go to west pointe some day and be a soldier just like all the soldiers that got him out of iraq. and for every one case that jeffrey lord can give you about bad things that happen, i would bet our immigrants from most of these arab nations, i could give you 1,000 cases where good things are happening because that's what immigrants do. and that's the emotional piece, i've got to be careful of that because i am your military analyst, but that's how i feel about it. >> general, we certainly appreciate -- it was pretty logical the way you broke it down. we'll give you that, general
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hurtling, always great to chat with you. thank you for coming on. >> always a pleasure brianna, thank you. still to come, president donald trump sending shock waves through refugee communities here on u.s. soil. randy kay met one vermont family who just arrived from syria, and now they fear they'll be sent back. we'll have their story straight ahead. you're live in the cnn newsroom.
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with just a few quick strokes of the pen, president donald trump has banned more than 218 million people from entering the united states. they're from seven muslim majority countries in the middle east and africa, but the group perhaps most at risk, families fleeing the humanitarian crisis in war torn syria. cnn randy kay travelled to vermont to meet a family who fears they may be sent home just days after their year's long journey to reach america. >> reporter: one week, that's how long this syrian family has been in the united states. they arrived just two days before donald trump was inaugurated. hazar was a french teacher, her husband was an accountant. they fled from damascus to turkey with their children to escape the violence. after two years of background checks, they finally made it to vermont. >> translator: we were worried about ourselves.
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worried about our children. we came here, we want to live in peace. it's better than living in the war situation we were in. >> reporter: they are the first of about 25 syrian and iraqi families expected to arrive in rutland, vermont, by september. about 100 refugees in all. rutland's mayor invited them to set until his city around the same time then candidate donald trump vowed, if elected, he'd stop the flow of refugees into the u.s. and deport the ones already here. >> this is just plain the right thing to do from a compassionate and humanitarian perspective. >> reporter: but that's not the only reason the mayor is welcoming the refugees to his city. he's hoping they'll help revitalize it. the city of rutland suffered a major population loss, making it hard for big companies here to fill jobs. the mayor is hoping that syrian refugees will not only add to the population, but also to the work force. the unemployment rate here is about 3%. dangerously low, says the mayor. >> we've got dozens, scores of
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employers in this community saying they've got hundreds of job openings they just can't fill. >> reporter: but now his whole plan to revive rutland could be in jeopardy, pending an executive order from president donald trump. >> i think all of us have some fears about that. i think his concerns are misplaced. the security measures are in place for refugees, especially coming from syria, will not put this community at risk. that's a fact. >> reporter: this couple is hosting the syrian family until their apartment is ready. do you wish that president trump could meet the couple and the family that enough your home? >> i wish that anyone who thinks that it is a bad idea for them to come could just ooempb take a little snapshot. they're wonderful people. they're not coming here to harm us, they're coming here to escape harm. >> reporter: tim cook, a doctor in town, says he doesn't want refugees set national league his city. not because he thinks they're dangerous, but because he thinks
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they'll end up costing tax payers money. so are you saying the mayor and whoever decided that the refugees come here got it wrong? >> yes. unequivocally. >> reporter: he says he fully supports president trump's opposition to taking in refugees. >> i think we've done enough as a country. i'm tapped out. and this nation is tapped out. we need to fix our own problems first. and then we can, you know, reconfigure and rescue the rest of the world. >> reporter: this family says they're not worried about president trump's plan, they feel safe and secure in vermont already. >> i like vermont and the people of vermont. >> the people. >> yes. >> they're very nice. >> yes, yes. >> reporter: you might have to learn to ski. >> i like skiing. >> new sport. >> reporter: exactly.
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one week, they hope it's only the beginning of their new life in the united states. randy kay, cnn, rutland, vermont. >> the growing opposition to president trump's temporary travel ban from seven majority muslim nations has dominated the air waves this weekend. and we've focussed our cameras on the demonstrations at international airports all across the country. the american civil liberty's union says it received 290,000 online donations this weekend. that totals about $19.4 million. that is about four or five times what they would normally get in a year just to put that in context, but what about the trump supporters who like what the president calls extreme vetting? cnn senior media correspondent brian stelter joining me now, and brian, you spoke with an aclu spokesman tonight, what did you learn? >> they will top the 20 million marker probably tomorrow, but for now, as you said, $19.4
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million. many times what they normally make in online donations for an entire year. this has been a gavelizing moment for groups like the aclu. many americans who don't know what to do, maybe can't attend one of the protests choosing instead to donate money. about 290,000 online donations overall. >> you're looking at the coverage of this, because this is something that the white house has really taken issue with, they don't feel like it's fair. what is your assessment as you look at the coverage? >> certainly the pictures tell the story, and the messages on the signs really tell the story. one of the colleagues pointed out that many of the signs at the protests he was seeing in l.a. were personal. actually directed at steve bannon. blaming trump's chief strategist for these moves over the weekend. many other signs, some of them humorous, some serious. not all of them directly addressing the travel ban, but many of them very pointed about this. and much of this really focussing on trump in one way or another.
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we know the president is an avid cable news consumer, surely he has seen this weekend. maybe even heard some of it from outside of the white house on sunday, and i'm struck, brianna, that this is not just in big cities. we're looking at seattle here, not surprising you can get a big crowd in seattle for a anti-trump protest. look at boise, idaho, the idaho statesman reporting hundreds there. the kansas city star, reporting hundreds of protesters in kansas city. i was just watching a live stream from las vegas, mccarron international. that's some of what's going on here. digital media allows people to tell their own stories from the protests. in a way that wasn't even true eight years ago when the tea party was born and was not as true as it is today when the occupy movement was born a number of years ago. it was because everyone now has their cell phones. they're able to live broadcast at these protests and of course, in some cases, attract their friends to come join them. >> so two straight weekends now of protests over donald trump or his policies, and there's this
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question about whether this is just a moment or this is a movement. i wonder what you think, brian, or if just too soon to tell. we think back to other movements, right, we think about occupy wall street, we think about the tea party, i think about how occupy wall street ultimately -- even though for weeks and weeks and there were people really occupying public spaces, it fizzled. >> it fizzled, but i saw remnants of it this weekend. for example, in boston, elizabeth warren, the senator, getting up at a protest in boston using the people's mike, something popularized by occupy in order to speak to the crowd and the crowd would repeat what she would say. we're seeing some of the same protesters at these events of course. you're right, occupy, the physical encampments did fizzle after weeks. this is a different kind of movement. and i'm curious to see what this look likes weeks and months from now. i think it's notable, women's march happened surprisingly
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large crowds. and then there was the question of whether a one day one off. i think now we can say it's more than that because of what's happened pretty quickly this weekend, but it's going to remain and open question. what happens in february, march, april, we know there are other movements, other protests planned, they're organizing efforts on facebook for those. we will see how big those become and of course, what donald trump says about it. if he is watching as i expect he has been watching this weekend, i'm curious to see if we will see a bar issued tweet about this in the morning. >> research shows, you know, there are many, many americans who believe in certainly a proposal similar to like what donald trump has put forward in this executive order. does seeing this demonstration of people who are against it give us a false idea of where the country fully is on this issue? >> i am concerned about that. i was speaking to a guest on my
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program earlier today. these top editors and yes we never to cover what the protesters are saying. we have to find people who support the efforts. you've been interviewing some of them here on the program this evening. especially gop congressman, they're not interested in going in front of the cameras to talk about this. even though they privately support it and they know their constituents support this as well. certainly the opponents are louder this weekend. you know, i spoke with one iraqi man who used to work for the los angeles times in baghdad. he basically kept the bureau online all weekend. he said to me, my father couldn't get into the u.s. this weekend. i'm not so concerned about that inconvenience, i'm concerned about next week. next year. right now, the opponents more vocal than the supporters of this. >> brian stelter, thank you so much for that. next on cnn, it is anthony bourdain, parts of unknown, thanks for joining us for cnn
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special live coverage of the nationwide protests to the president's travel ban. for updates any time, log on to cnn.com, i'm brianna keeler, and i hope you have a wonderful week. ♪ (vo) do not go gentle into that good night, old age should burn and rave at close of day; rage, rage against the dying of the light. do not go gentle into that good night. ♪ ♪
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