rolling mill operation is in the industrial midwest. our workers and my neighbors are steel men, train men, and oil men. these are the coveted reagan democrats. if you ask a reagan democrat today about the democrat party, you might get the answer limb zone liberal. a lot of these workers feel that the core interest groups of the party do not represent their values. for example, the abortion rights activists, the environmental activists, wall street, wall street lawyers. >> okay. wall street? >> yes. a lot of wall street supports the democratic party now. >> they don't support me. i didn't know what side of the ledger that was going on. >> i can assure you i speak a lot with all sorts of industrial people in the midwest, and that's what we hear. >> that's the impression they have. okay. >> in the midwest, if the democrat wants to recapture the reagan democrats, they need to begin speaking to some of these issues. my question for you is, how can

a democrat party which is separated by political philosophy and economic reality represent the constituents of the manufacturing midwest? >> well, i thank you for that question, because it's the challenge that some see the party has. i question when you said wall street, i'm like no. wall street comes out with its money against house democrats every election. so that was -- that took me down a different path. here's the thing. the democrats and the congress, people say to me, you're so good at keeping people together. keeping the democrats together. i said i don't keep them together. our values keep us together. that's what unites us. and while we may have different views on some of the subjects you named within our party, the one thing that unifies us is our commitment to america's working families. that's what we are. that's our organized purpose to protect the american families.

that you just named among them. and it isn't that we failed in conveying that message. how could it be when we, the democrats in the house and the senate with the president of the united states bailed out the auto industry. millions of jobs directly and indirectly changed, yet ohio, indiana, michigan, go for the republicans. who at the time said that we we were doing, mitt romney wrote in our bed to effect, what we were doing was wrong because it interrupted the free enterprise system because we were intervening and saving an industry. when we work there for collective bargaining, osha, they are anath on the republic. you named some priorities that people think we have over these priorities. it's not over.

they're part of our values. we we're not going to give up our commitment to nondiscrimination or what we believe about respecting the judgment a woman has that the size and timing of her family, but it is also important that we are -- have clarity and whose side we're on. and most of us have come. i grew up in little italy in baltimore, maryland. it was only a question of democrats and republicans. we're for working families. they're not. they're for trickle down economics. you give tax breaks to the wealthy. you trickle down, everybody gets a job. that's how they talk. we're talking about trickle up. increase the paychecks and the purchasing power of america's working families but the stagnation in wages that you -- that is part of the hart ache of families all over the country but also in the areas that you

mentioned, and i work closely with the steel workers. in fact, they named me a woman of steel. i'm proud of that. but that is the challenge, and it's not about choosing one over the other. it's about we're all in this together. i told norman leer, i said you had the right title, all in the family. but it's all america's family. and if we can work in a bipartisan way to say the jobs -- we have to prepare our country for the job of the future as we consolidate these we have. some people think the election was divided into those who saw their place in the future and those who didn't. or for their families. and so how do we say we're all moving in this forward together and as we have new opportunities, they have to be shared. if we're going to have technology and automation, we have to build buildings in which

they that can take place. we have to build community. community, community, community. in which we need schools and health care facilities and the rest. so there's plenty of opportunity for jobs that are not -- that in addition to the jobs we want to bring back or keep, but also to recognize that are the jobs of the future. but in our caucus we have this discussion, how could they -- how did they not know that we're there for them? well, as i said to a couple, i said if a wife says to a husband, you're not communicating, and he thinks he is, he's not communicating. so we weren't communicating. and so it's not about who we are. because who we are is to be there for america's working family, and we fight that fight every day against tax breaks for the wealthy. that's the fight we have with donald trump right now. no matter what he said on the campaign trail, he's right there to give tax breaks to the rich. and by the way, if they overturn

the affordable care act. get this. 400 wealthiest families in america will get a tax break of $7 million every year. >> so let me communicate this. this is what we call an assist. a soft landing, a lighter question from a student at nyu, trevor. >> thank you for your question. >> good evening. thank you for being here and thank you for taking my question. i was originally slated to ask a pretty soft question. given the dire circumstances, i'm so sorry, i wonder if you'd indulge me in a little bit more of a serious question about the future of the democratic party. what i've seen on nyu's campus and polls all over cnn even, harvard university poll last may showed that people between the ages of 18 and 29, not just democrats, not just leftists, 51

% of people between 18 and 29 no longer support the system of capitalism. that's not me asking you to make a radical statement about capitalism, but i'm telling you my experience is that the younger generation is moving left on economic issues. and i've been so excited to see how democrats have moved left on social issues as a gay man, i've been proud to see you fighting for our rights and for many democratic leadersi fighting fo our rights. i'm wondering if there's anywhere you see the democratic party could move farther left. if you think we could make a more stark contrast to ring wing economics? >> well, i thank you for your question, but i have to say, we're capitalists. that's the way it is. however, we do think that capitalism is not necessarily meeting the needs with the income inequality we have in our country. and let me tell you this.

i don't know how much time we have. about 40 years ago a little bit more now, no less a person in terms of capitalism than the chairman of the chairman of standard oil said, he talked about stake holder capitalism. capitalism that said when we make decisions as management and ceos of the country we take into consideration our shareholders, our management, our workers, our customers and the community at large. at that time, at that time the disparity between the ceo and the worker was about 40 times more for the ceo than the worker. as productivity rose, the pay of the worker rose, and the pay of the ceo rose. everything rose together. around 20 years ago it started to turn into maybe 15. two 20 years ago it started to turn into shareholder capitalism

where we're strictly talking about the quarterly report. so a ceo would make much more money by keeping pay low even though productivity is rising. the worker's not getting more pay and the ceo is getting a big pay because he's kept costs low by keeping workers from a share of the productivity they created and a right angle going in the wrong direction. the disparity between the ceo and the worker under the shareholder capitalism is more like 350 to 400%. from 40 to 1 to 350 to 400 to 1. that's an immorality. and it doesn't grow the economy. the more money you put in the pocket of the worker for the productivity he or she has produced, the more money they will spend, consume with

confidence, inject into the economy and grow the economy. so what you talked about and what you talked about are the same thing. the stagnation of wages and the financial instability that families are feeling tied with seeing priorities that are not necessarily ones that they have -- well, they care about it but it's not a job, and being able to have a home hoand send your children to school and have a dignified retirement. and capitalism should serve that purpose. the capitalist system has been well served by the so-called safety net. it's not just a safety net for individual workers. it's a safety net for capitalism. they can go through their cycles, and we have an employment insurance or all kinds of benefits as a safety yet. it enables them to go through cycles. but instead -- and there's some

enlightened corporations which say i'm keeping my whole staff through thick and thin at the end of the day, i have a productive, trained, loyal work force. so we have to change the thinking of people. i don't think we have to change from capitalism. we're a capitalist system. the free market is a place that can do good things. actually adam smith wealth of nations, the invisible hand, he was more compassionate. he wrote two books. his other book was about our responsibilities to each other as well as wealth of nations. i wish he had written one book wherein incorporated all of it together. i hear what you're saying about young people, and may i say we have our erik heads up something called a future forum. where young members of congress in their young 20s and 30s go around the country and listen to young people, perhaps he can visit you at school as well. but thank you for sharing. >> let's thank leader minority

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>> we want to welcome our viewers joining our broadcast from the united states. >> i'm john vause in los angeles. you're watching news room l.a. >> now president trump is moving to restore the conservative ideology to the u.s. supreme court. he's nominated gor sach. cnn's pamela brown reports. >> it's lovely to be here. >> the judge sits on the 10th circuit court of appeals. justice antonin scalia he could replace. and he believes in the literal interpretation of the constitution. >> the world suffered a seismic shock with the loss of justice scalia. >> they were good friends seen recently fishing together. after scalia's sudden death, he

spoke about getting the news while skiing. >> i immediately lost what breath i had left. and i couldn't see the rest of the way down the mountain for the tear. >> reporter: his legal opinions on religious liberty attracted the attention of trump helping make his pick. he sided with corporations who claimed it violated religious beliefs. he also wrote an opinion in a separation of powers case holding that too much deference was given by the court to administratorive agencies and pinned a book arguing against assisted suicide. he writes the idea that all human beings are valuable and the taking of human life by persons is always wrong. he was picked above thomas hordemhord hardman who we caught up with. at 49 years old gorsuch is the

youngest of among nominees. he could become one of trump's most lasting legacielegacies. >> if if he serves for 30 or 35 years he could have an enormous impact on the law of the land, especially with president trump gets another confirmation or two during his presidency and someone like gorsuch becomes the center of the court. >> he comes to the capitol has a teenager. his mother headed the environmental protection agency. he clerked for two justices and went onto become a partner at a d.c. law firm. then a senior official at the department of justice. while he sailed through his senate confirmation in 2006 when he was nominated to the federal bench.

>> we will do our best to keep the seat open. >> we'll fight it tooth and nail as long as we have to. >> reporter: with three justices in their 70s and 80s, judge gorsuch may not be president trump's last supreme court nominee. >> reporter: we're learning more about the details of bringing kne neil gorsuch. sources say he left in a back road behind his gated community and took a military aircraft to washington. it's clear the white house wanted to take measures to keep the top pick under wraps until that prime time announcement tuesday night. pamela brown, cnn, washington. for more now the big news about the supreme court we'll joined by john phillips and matthew litman. thank you for coming back. first question, i want to get the response here from -- hear the response from richard blumenth blumenthal.

this is what he said after the news broke that neil gorsuch was nominated to the supreme court. >> i believe he may be coming to court with an agenda that's out of the mainstream. and as much as i want to insulate the court from partisan politics. if i conclude he's mainstream with women's health care and privacy rights or worker and consumer protection or other kinds of public health and safety issues, i will use every tool at my disposal to block his nomination. >> we are hearing from a lot of democrats that have issues with gorsuch. right now the strategy isn't clear what they intend to do. will they filibuster or save it for the next pick which will probably be more important. >> i think you filibuster this pick as best. this was barack obama's pick to have. he picked america garland.

the republicans wouldn't have a hearing. the democrats should show no deference to this nominee. we have to fight this as much as we can. not just the issue of what they did to obama and garland. his views don't comport with the majority of america's views. >> they have two lines of attack. they can say he's not qualified which they really can't do that with the argument against meyers where they said it was nepotism. she was bush's attorney. she's not supreme court material. this guy is not better qualified. this guy went to ivy league institutions and has been approved by the u.s. senate in a unanimous vote. they've moved to option two. which is saying he's ideological extreme. we played a senator from connecticut. a senator from connecticut is going to come out against the nomination nation. the question is what is joe mansion going to do and

mccaskill. all the senators from represent red states. do they vote for him? my guess is yes. >>. >> and you portray two options. there's a third. the filibuster. if mcconnell wants to take way the filibuster option, he can. in the meantime democrats have to fight because the republicans showed no deference to obama's pick. there's no reasons why the democrats should do so. they should fight. the party's base will not allow anything else. >> does it come a point where it has to stop? >> let me say as a democrat, i'm tired of that argument. it's always the democrats who seem to give. and the republicans do what they want. when barack obama started as president, mcconnell said his number one goal wasn't anything about the economy or legislation. it was to stop barack obama from

being president again, and to go against barack obama at every opportunity. democrats have to fight. the base won't allow anything else. >> the politics is always going to be at play here. democrats have long memories and remember what happened when the leadership led them down this road during obama care and made a bunch of those blue dog democrats take poison kills and they got killed in the midterm election. if they force them to filibuster this nominee and not approve them, then a lot of those red state democrats will be former senators when they come up in the next term. >> let me say this. if the goal is to make president trump for popular, the democrats can't be a part of it. >> the senate democrats decided they will hold up the nominations of a number of cabinet nominees. the treasury, attorney general, all of them have been delayed by various tactics. this is what warren hatch had to say. >> they're id yoits. anybody that would do something like that, it's a breach of

committee rules and just getting along around here. we know we have differences, and we should be willing to meet in the differences. >> hatch a republican. are the democrats being idiots here? will the confirmation hearings move bard? >> i like him. he's getting more honest. >> looking a little bluer. >> what happened here is a lot of these nominees weren't properly vetted. as this process goes on we find out pretty bad things. tom price, we find out there may be some insider trading from when he was in congress and trading health care stocks that just came out now that he should not be approved as the head of health and human services. but the democrats are might. block it for as long as you can. we won't be able to block it forever, but block it. >> they're delaying the inevitab inevitable. it remind me when i was a kid and i had to go to the dentist.

i would hide in my closet hoping my mom wouldn't find me. maybe she'd say cancel the appointment. she would always find me. i would always have to go to the dentist, and that's what's going to happen here. these nominees are going to come up for a vote and they're going to be approved. >> but what the democrats are showing is there's a problem with some of the nominees. the people need to see what's going on. tom price is a perfect example of that. democrats are fulfilling their responsibility. >> and the education secretary, the nominee of education secretary plagiarized her answers what were submitted to the senate committee. this is a person who is going to be heading the education committee. if you plagiarize in school, you're expelled? >> right, and everyone has skeletons in their closet, but my guess is she'll have the votes. she was voted out of the committee. she'll be confirmed by the senate. there were reports of chaos

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it's 10:30 here. i'm john vause. >> the main headlines we're following for you this hour. donald trump has nominated 49-year-old judge neil gorsuch for the supreme court. if confirmed he would fill the vacancy left by scalia. it could confirm the conservative of the direction of the court for decades. >> a woman who has been killed. the family says the eight-year-old died during a raid in yemen from forces from the u.s. and the uae. her father was killed in 2011. u.s. officials have not confirmed her death. william ryan owens also died in the raid during a fire fight. police charged a 27-year-old university student in the shooting at a canadian mosque. six people were killed. he faces six counts of first degree murder and five attempted murder charges.

he's described as a lone wolf and is known for his far right views. rarely has there been a time of such national division and discord. over the past few days of protests, the supreme court could have a final day on many of president trump's controversial policies. for more on the implications of the president's nominations for the court, we are joined by joan. assuming neil gorsuch is confirmed, he'll restore the status quo to the court before justice scalia, so in many ways it's a wash? >> it is vote for vote. he's a conservative in the mold of antonin scalia. he's been consistent on issues that conservatives -- ma that's right to conservatives. they're narrowing the breadth of government.

reigning in the power of government agencies and he's an excellent writer. but he's not as provocative. even though it's one for one with the votes, you can't replace justice slcalia. >> as far as judge forsugorsuch concerned, he's young, 49. >> that's right. and antonin slee ya was 50 when he was nominated and served for 30 years. the last time we had someone younger than 50 was clarence thomas in his early 40s at the time. neil gorsuch who will likely be approved from what we've seen and know of the senate math where republicans hold the majority, he could serve for our generation and the next. >> when it comes to supreme court justices, there are always some surprises like when chief justice john roberts, a

conservative, ruled in favor of obama care. is the lesson here you don't know what you're going to get until you get it? >> that's right. and i have to say that the conservative activists who are working with donald trump have this mantra that i'm not sure all the viewers would understand, but it's no more david suitors. david suitor was appointed in 1990 named by george h.w. bush. people said he would be a home run for conservatives. he ended up serving in a very liberal vein until 2009 when he stepped down. so there is a warning in things that you often don't get what you think you have, but in neil gorsuch, he has ruled enough as a federal judge that i think we know what we have here. david suitor, i should mention, had only been a federal judge briefly. he was mainly a state court judge. if you listen to his testimony,

he left a couple clues. i don't think we'll see those clue this is time around with gorsuch. >> this terms of the supreme court, the game changer with president trump's second pick if he gets that chance. >> i think that's exactly right. and just so that you know, we've got justice anthony kennedy who is age 80 and has talked about possibly retiring. he might do that soon. then we have justice ruth bader ginsburg. she's going to turn 84 in march. i'm sure she does not want to retire while donald trump is president, but if something should happen to her and force her to retire, it would be a big deal, and same thing with anthony kennedy who'ven though he is in the conservative camp is a centrist conservative. he has stopped the supreme court from rolling back abortion rights too significantly or

overturning affirmative action. those are two areas where he in recent years cast a decisive vote, and in 2015 anthony kennedy wrote the opinion and cast the fifth vote to declare constitutional right to same sex marriage nationwide. >> okay, joan thank you. we are in for interesting days. a senate confirmation to come. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. bye. president trump's execive order prestricting thavl in the united states. the white house is insisting now the ban is not really a ban. jim acosta reports. >> reporter: across the trump administration, all of a sudden there seems to be a ban on the word ban. >> this is not a travel ban. this is not, i repeat, not a ban

on muslims. >> reporter: john kelly insisted the executive order does not amount to a ban. >> it's not a travel ban. >> reporter: tell that to the president who tweeted this. and don't forget he said this on saturday. >> working out nicely. you see it at the airports and all over. it's working out very nicely and we're going to have a strict ban and we're going to have extreme vetting which we should have had in this country for many years. >> reporter: white house press secretary sean spicer tried to explain it this way. >> the words the media is using, but at the end of the day -- hold on. it can't be. >> his words. >> thanks. >> reporter: even show spicer used the word ban himself on sunday. then there's what one rudy all-yawny told fox over the we

could weekend. >> when he first announced it he said muslim ban. he called me up and said show me the right way to do it legally. we focussed on instead of religion, danger. >> reporter: spicer 's answer fr that. >> ask the mayor. that's his opinion. >> reporter: they are pushing back on botching the executive order which led to chaos in airports across the country. >> we knew it was coming. and then we implemented it. >> reporter: paul ryan criticized the execution. >> i think it's regrettable there was confusion on the rollout. no one wanted to see translators and green cards get caught into this. >> reporter: the white house is standing by the firing of sally yates who balked at carrying out the executive order saying yates betrayed the department of justice. at her own hearing two years ago

yates told jeff sessions she was capable of telling the president no. >> do you think the attorney general has a responsibility to say no to the president if he asks for something that's improper? >> senator, i believe the attorney general or deputy attorney general has an obligation to follow the law and the constitution, and to give their independent legal advice to the president. >> that was jim acosta reporting. let's get more on the story. joining us a criminal defense and immigration attorney in san diego, and a businessman in tunisia affected by the ban. mr. hasani the white house press secretary called it an inconvenience. is it just an inconvenience for you? >> it's more than an inconvenience. it has a business impact on me and my company. and it also has a personal

impact. i've been traveling back and forth to the u.s. for the past 25 years for studying and doing business with u.s. companies. but now all of a sudden i'm finding myself, quote, unquote, a bad dude banned from traveling to the u.s. even though i have a very business reason. >> what are you being told? >> i haven't been told anything. i checked the u.s. embassy website. it says visas will not be issued and there's a hold on current visa holders. wait for further details. all the initial finding out is from the news and websites. >> stay with us. i want to bring in the criminal defense and immigration attorney. alex, how would you advise mr. alahasani? is there something worth fighting here? is it constitutional? >> it is something worth

fighting. when you look at the way the ban is written right now, it is unconstitutional. the due process clause says that someone cannot be liberty taken away from them without due process. and an example of it would be if someone is trying to take away your driver's license, social security benefits, welfare benefits. they can't take that away without a hearing. in this situation what's happening is they're trying to someone can leave the country and come back in and they're taking away that right without due process. now, that's a problem. so i would advise anyone this ban is unconstitutional as written. it is going to be stricken in the courts, and they're going to have to fight this and they're going to have to hang in until the right time to do it. >> that might be the case, but correct me if i'm wrong. the constitution protects religious freedoms for citizens. it doesn't say anything about refugees or immigrants or those in the process of being

naturalized. surely then that goes against your argument. >> well, there's other parts of the constitution as well. you look at the first amendment. and you have to look at the right -- putting one religion over another. and in this type of situation they're putting the religion of christianity above muslims. the other thing you have to understand is how this is affecting u.s. citizens. someone could have a family member or someone else. looking at it just purely under the respect it only affects u.s. citizens, that's not right. you have to think of it as ood reason why it's unconstitutional is they're favoring one religion over another. >> mr. alhasani, hearing with alex said, do you believe this is a ban against muslims in. >> it looks like a ban against muslims. it's written as a ban against muslims. the fact that the white house and the press secretary is trying to label it as something else is not taken away from this. and if i may say something on a

personal level. to me personally the people on the front line against terror are not the government or the intelligence agencies. but are the parents and the teachers and the scholars like myself who are trying very hard to protect our own kids. i have five kids. two are tareenager. i try to protect them from radicalization. whatever i say now is minimal in the case of what happened during the campaign, you know, climbtizing this ban. it's hard to explain to -- i was planning to send my elder son to the u.s. for school, and now i'm not sure i want to do that, because for one thing, he's not going to get there. i'm not sure he's going to be safe or not. it's very danger for us. as parents who are really on the front lines acting against terror, preventing our kids from being radicalized.

it's difficult to hear this stuff in the media. it looks and feels like a muslim ban, and it is one. >> and alex, president trump has said the u.s. would resume visas to all countries once secure policies are in place over the next 90 days. what happens after that? give us a sense if you know of what would be the next step. >> he said he's going to reissue them. there a lot of stuff on the campaign that's been said. they're trying to back hedpeddl. i think it may have to happen sooner because of challenges in the court. >> there's challenges saying this ban is unconstitutional and they've put a stay on all the rulings. if what they are not calling a ban but if the ban is lifted, and they say they're going to reissue the visas, then it could be pointless at that point. what was the point of having the 90 day area? i think after the 90 days

they're going to create at least another executive order or something in place to try and keep their motive going. >> alex, the criminal defense and immigration attorney in san diego and mr. hasnai, a businessman from tunisia. as soon as you know more about your status, get in contact with us. we'd love to hear what happens next on your journey. thank you to you both. >> thank you. >> we'll have a lot more on president trump's order to deny entry to the u.s. to travelers from countries. after the break we'll go live to baghdad for the latest there. and safe driver, mu, that help them save on their car insurance. any questions? -yeah. -how do you go to the bathroom? great. any insurance-related questions? -mm-hmm. -do you have a girlfriend? uh, i'm actually focusing on my career right now,

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on the ground? >> yeah, isa, sad to say, despite two and a half years of this conflict and two ceasefires, the violence has never really properly stopped. but we have seen an escalation in recent days. since the weekend the ukrainian side saying eight soldiers have been killed. we're hearing ten civilian casualties. and casualties on the russian side as well. we're hearing 20,000 people or more are still without heat, water, or electricity because of shelling of critical infrastructure in that area. as you say, both sides are blaming each other for the escalation of this conflict. take a listen to what the ukrainian president had to say about it. >> translator: today for the first time in many days, grad systems were used against civilians and our division. large caliber artillery was used and there was intense shelling. if someone dares to talk about

lifting sanctions, then what else do you need to bring the aggressor to responsibility? >> reporter: and the russian foreign ministry also releasing a statement, saying that the ukrainian side are the ones using the heavy artillery in violation of the minsk protocol. that ceasefire agreed in september 2015. and the us state department also put out a statement yesterday, urging for an immediate ceasefire, saying they're supporting the minsk protocols. rex tillerson, the new secretary of state, expected to be sworn in later today. this will be one of his first tests. >> thank you very much, claire. good to see you. you've been watching cnn newsroom, live from los angeles. i'm john vause. >> and i'm issa soares in london. we'll be back with more news after a very short break. do stay here with cnn, we are of course, the world's news leaders.

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