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well, topping this hour of 360, president trump swearing in rex tillerson. the ceremony came just after president trump's visit to dover air force base. it also comes after his national security adviser sent a sharp message to iran. and of general petraeus had a warning for the white house about maintaining ties with
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europe and not antagonizing moderate islam. >> americans should not take the current international order for graptded. it did not will itself into existence. we created it. likewise, it is not naturally self-sustaining. we have sustained it. if we stop doing so, it will fray, and eventually collapse. this is precisely what some of our adversaries seek to encourage. we must also remember that islamic extremists want to frame this as a clash of civilizations with america at war with islam. we must not let them do that. indeed, we must be very sensitive to actions that might give them ammunition in such an effort. >> general petraeus talking to lawmakers. more now with general flynn talking to tehran. michelle kosinski has more on that. >> reporter: a tough line at the white house today. >> we are officially putting
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iran on notice. >> reporter: michael flynn offering a cryptic warning after iran tested another ballistic missile sunday. >> the obama administration failed to respond adequately. including support for terrorism and other violations of international norms. >> reporter: the new administration making it clear it believes the missile launch violated a u.n. resolution. flynn's comments today follow this warning from u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley yesterday. >> the united states is not naïve. we're not going to stand by. we're going to act. we're going to be strong and do whatever it takes to protect the american people. >> there's a new sheriff in town. his name is donald j. trump, and we're not going to follow the policies of the prior administration. >> reporter: wanting to send a strong message. but how exactly the u.s. will act is unclear. administration officials say they're not taking any options off the table, including a
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military response. the former deputy national security adviser for president obama ben rhodes lashed out on twitter. iran has launched ballistic missiles several times. the treasury department did impose sanctions. but prior tests have gone down with no more response than statements of condemnation. experts say the missile tests, while provocative do not violate nuclear deal the u.s. and five other countries helped negotiate. >> some will say that there are some in iran trying to sabotage the nuclear agreement that we reached. they're trying to take provocative actions to get us to pull out of the agreement. >> reporter: trump on the campaign trail talked about getting tough on iron ban.
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>> i will make that agreement so tough. if they break it, they will have hell to pay. >> is the state department shedding light on how they plan to move forward or do they know? >> reporter: actually, no. keep in mind rex tillerson was just sworn in tonight. so there could be a lot more clarity as of tomorrow. but at this point, the state department isn't even using the same language as the white house. they said that the missile launch violated a u.n.resolution. but they will only say that it's provocative and there isn't clarity as to what exactly are these options for a response that the white house is talking about. it seems like there is going to be a period of time when the u.s. coordinates, looks into what happened, talks to the u.n. security council and -considersa response then. >> jeffrey lord back this hour.
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also christopher hill, former u.s. ambassador. general hurtling. you know general flynn. when he says iran is on notice, was it intentionally vague or a mistake to be vague? >> i'm sure it was an attempt to be vague. mr. trump has said he's going to do that all through the campaign, not signal his intentions. but you can't use vague language in diplomatic affairs. you have to be somewhat precise and also nuanced. and for anyone who says this is a different president, he's going to do it differently, that's fine for mr. trump, but he's dealing with over 200 nations in the world that are used to doing it a different way, and i think it will be problematic and troublesome if
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this kind of language through either press conferences or tweets continues as opposed to diplomatic channels. >> i guess it's a novel question, but when the iranian government hears it's on notice, how do they interpret that? or at least the different factions in iran? >> it's difficult to say. as the general quite correctly stated, this was too vague of a statement. either it's an empty threat, bluster, or it is the first sal v salvo in what could be an accidental confrontation. there's no question that this was a provocative act on the part of the iranians, and i think it's fair to say it was a testing of the new trump administration. but unfortunately, we have an administration that bus of the way it acts has in many ways
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mixed a level of frankly incompetence and zealotry into what could be a dangerous mix for national security. >> ambassador, how do you see this? >> i think the iran deal, by all accounts, the iranians are holding to the deal, but it's on a very strict constructionist basis. that is they're not reining in their support to hezbollah, they're not reining in a missile program, especially a missile program that's not directly righted to t related to the nuclear program. the trump administration has never been pleased with this agreement. but more importantly, neither has the entire arab world or israeli the. what the trump administration is trying to say is look, we've got
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our eyes on the iranians, we're really seized with this. we're going to kind of push them on these issues. so i think to some extent it's an effort to make nice to the arab world and perhaps to mr. netanyahu, who's already on record saying we ought to go back to sanctions. so i think they're trying to thread a lot of needles through, and i think they're going to have to figure out what they really want to do. and there's no question that great powers can't bluff. so we've got to be a little careful when we're putting them on probation or whatever we're trying to do. >> is it clear to you who in the administration is sort of the point on this? obviously, donald trump is president. but we heard general flynn's remarks. now rex tillerson is sworn in. is this something he will be handling. >> i think so. it will depend on what the nuance of the issue is. and let's remember here what you were talking about the difference between the white
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house response and the state department response that is much more measured. historically speaking, the state department, no matter who is president is sort of that way. i mean -- >> the language. >> the language, the tale of ronald reagan's famous "tear down this wall." the state department until the last minute was saying please don't say this. so -- >> amend this wall. >> or maybe just not say it at all. and that is to be expected. and you always have this eaissu with cabinet members. will this happen in the trump administration in the? we're seeing some kind of disturbance in berkley. what's going on? >> reporter: well, anderson, what you're seeing behind my is quite a bit of commotion. this is an event at berkley,
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where milo yan onless was invited here to the campus, and you can see from the reaction. i'm going to step out of the shot here, what is happening here is that these are opportunity protesters, anarchists from what i can gather, trying to breach the building right now. ah! back up! watch out! >> go! let's go! >> so we're trying to -- >> reporter: we're backing up. we're backing up. we're backing up. >> can you explain what just happened there? >> reporter: what you can see, anderson is they're trying to disburse the crowd. i don't have any idea how many people are here. but you can feel that there's a lot of tension. from what i can tell, police officers who are dressed in riot
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gear are just trying to keep this building where this event is supposed to be happening, secure, what we saw are some of the people picking up barricades and trying to ram through windows, and we're going to try to get a little bit closer again. >> can you kind of give us the lay of the land? this is a demonstration against a speaker who is, was invited to speak at the berkley, in berkley, california. >> reporter: okay -- >> and there's a number of times and appearances that he's made on college campuses that there have been demonstrations against him. clearly this is taking it to a new level. she is saying there are anarkist types who are trying to breach the building, and we've lost ifv. we're trying to get restored.
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you can see two different vantage points. that would appear to be the building on campus in which i assume the speech was to take place. i'm not sure if the speaker is inside there or exactly what, if the speech is continuing or ever even started. in some cases on these campuses we've seen the speech has had to be stopped. we see a balcony, and it's not clear to me, there's an individual on the balcony. it's not clear if that's a camera in the person's hand. can you give us the lay of the land in terms of where the protesters are, where you are, where the protesters are and is the speaker inside the building? >> reporter: we don't know if the speaker is inside the building. the vantage point i'm ate, , wee on the ground floor, and we are looking at officers dressed in riot gear. i'm not exactly what they're
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deploying, but they're deploying something from their -- >> we're also seeing, there are protesters with makeshift shields that they are actually using, and they're also throwing things either at police or at the building. can you see that as well? those are shields that they've made? >> reporter: yes,ki see them. it looks like they're cardboard shields with black tape over them. what we, what i'm looking at now is that the crowd is pushing back. some of the most, the ones that have been the most violent, they have been dressed in all black. they have black scarves covering their faces. they have picked up barricades that have been separating the crowd and the protesters and the building, they've literally breached these barricades, picked them up and smashed them through the first floor of this building. in the lights that were set up, the streetlights that were set up, have been completely knocked over.
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i can see the word milo spray painted on it with it crossed out. and right now it just looks like the crowd is not leaving. they have backed up a little bit from the student union building, and there's a bit more space between them and the police, which is something that officers certainly want to try to do at this point. and it looks like they have something that they're, i've seen a lot of fire here, that they're throwing something. i don't know what type of device it is, but it is catching on fire, and that is certainly a very big concern, but i don't know if you can hear all of this noise behind my, anderson. >> yeah. >> reporter: this crowd is not leaving. they are not backing down. >> it is hard to tell crowd numbers, i don't want to give a sense of this being larger than it is or small irthan it is. do you have a sense of how ma many protesters there are?
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>> reporter: i can see at least a dozen police officers, but on my way walking in, there were a number of officers that i walked by, so i couldn't guess on how many officers. as far as the protesters, when we walked up right before all of this happened, it looked like this entire square was packed. i don't believe that any of the protesters have left e . it looks like they've pushed further back into the crowd. if you see the size of the square, it was completely full, and now it's spreading out around the building. this is a very sizable crowd. >> do you also have a sense of what the schedule for this evening was when this event was supposed to take place, how long this demonstration had been going on for? >> reporter: the demonstration started about an hour and 15 minutes ago. that's when we first saw the crowd beginning to form.
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the speaker wasn't scheduled to speak until about, there's still at least an hour and 40 minutes before he was set to speak. the doors had not yet opened. we did see some of the leaders who are invited him to this event go in. much of this building was completely empty except for the police deeptd, for the officers who were here. i'm hearing -- okay. we're hearing an announcement. the police are asking everyone to disburse. >> saying if you do not disburse. >> reporter: dh >> reporter: they're trying to get the crowd to disburse. >> on the right hand of the screen you see officer on a bull horn, warning them if they do not disburse think riey risk be arrested.
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that's another vantage point. >> reporter: anderson. >> i don't see anyone moving. >> the speech has been canceled, it was announced over twitter. we just heard that. university in berkley has announced that this speech has been canceled over their twitter account. we'll see if that word is given to those protesters, and obviously, those protesters will certainly see that as some form of a victory, though, you know, again, the counter argument for that is an acceptance of free speech on a college campus, but we have seen a number of these sorts of protests certainly around this particular speaker. and there'sclearly clearly a po presence there. i want to bring in jeffrey lord.
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certainly, we have seen protests like this in america's past. it is jarring to see protesters with pre-made shields and dressed all in black, sort of in this organized fashion, trying to stop someone from speaking. >> the first thing that popped into my mind became ronald reagan, when he was governor of california he sent the national guard into this very university because of what they called the free speech movement of the day. they'd taken over a part that had been supposed to be dormitories and they wanted to steal property from the university. governor reagan was angry. he sent the national guard in. i believe there was a student killed in all this. this university has a history of doing this kind of thing. it's very part of the left. but to your moirngts whethpoint milo, who is jewish and gay.
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this is part of their dna. it's not good. you see this behavior right now. it's self-explanatory. it's terrible. >> the other question is, does it, who does it actually help here? you know, for somebody like this speaker, this kind of attention just emboldens them. he has a book deal. probably more well-known with each of the passing protests. >> i don't know him. i've been on his radio show to discuss the issues of the day. and he styles himself as a bit of a provocateur. >> i think maybe more than a little bit of a provocateur. >> but all of that is find eve.y but their is is nazi-style beha
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when they're smashing things. this has no place in america i don't care who the speaker is. >> this is a campus in which, you know, over the decades has seen large numbers of demonstrations. has seen, as jeffrey was talking about, violence in some cases but also plenty of peaceful protests and active protest movements on campus. >> kyung, i don't know if you can hear me. is it clear how many of these protesters are students at the university, how many have come from outside? do you know? >> reporter: i can't tell. when i was wandering through the crowd, a lot of the crowd had cal clothing on. so the people you're looking at, though, and i'm not sure what camera you're looking at right now, they're wearing black. about half of them have cal clothing on. half of them do not. so i do not -- whoa.
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okay. sorry, we're trying to move back. oh! wait! okay, okay, we're backing up, backing up. >> so that, kyung, that area that you are now backing up from, is that the entrance to the building? is that just one side of one particular entrance? >> reporter: this is the, this is one entrance to the building. this is the entrance we believe that people were lining up to go in to see the speaker. there is another entrance, but this has been sort of the focal point your the protesters have been trying to stop people from going in. something i need to explain as well, what is hanging over all of this, when you walk through the crowd and talk to people, they say yes, it is about this event, it is about this speaker, but this is also about national politics. this is very much about donald trump. there are a lot of signs of anti-trump signs that are here. people speaking about the
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cabinet. so this, on the surface, does appear to be just about this one event, just about this one speaker. but i can tell you from everything we've seen here, national politics hangs over all of this. it is inflaming all of the passions here, and while it does look like the most energetic people, the ones who are violent are driven by whatever motive, what is riding over all of this indeed is national politics, anderson. >> i understand that the police have now said and correct me if i'm wrong, that they in a matter of minutes plan to clear the area. there you see somebody lighting -- >> reporter: oh, back up! okay. >> so kyung -- >> reporter: i'm not sure how much gasoline is in that. >> did you hear from the police that they plan to clear this square down? >> reporter: there was a warning from the police, a verbal
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warning saying to get out of the square. and as we're backing up here, this is something clearly that they've got to get a handle on. >> what is that actually burning? is it, it looks like something with a door on it. is it a -- >> reporter: it's a light, it's a streetlight, the kind of lights you see when there's a major event, that the city pulls out, so it's a large light that was tipped over and now has been set on fire. >> uc berkley police have announced over twitter that the speaker -- police have announced over twitter that the speaker who was scheduled to speak fo tonight on campus has left the campus and is no longer there. clearly they are trying to defuse this as much as possible and get people to move on. it does not look, and kyung correct me if i'm wrong, does it look like people are clearing out in response to the police? >> reporter: oh, no. just as i look at the arc of the
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crowd here, i mean, yeah, no one's moving. you know. there's a large crowd here. they're just watching this light burn and there is a very scary energy happening here. people are waving flags. a lot of people look very delighted that this is happening, and as i'm sure people are on twitter looking at this, what they really wanted was exactly what you just said, anderson. they wanted to shut this down. and so, you know, no one's moving. at some point -- those are -- >> sounds like firecrackers. >> reporter: that's fireworks, fireworks. >> kung, it looks like an accelerant used, was an accelerant used on that fire? that's a metal object that's burning. is it gasoline that's burning? >> reporter: i don't know.
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that's what's a little alarming. i'm not sure. what we have seen are some of the protesters throwing -- >> you know, i'm being told, i'm being told it's a generator. it's a free-standing light that has its own generator which likely has gasoline inside it. so that's probably what has ignited. so you're wise obviously to try keep your distance from that. not clear how much gasoline is inside that generator. we're looking, kyung, on the right-hand side of our screen, we're probably watching from your camera, a tight shot of the flames on that light. on the left-hand side we're looking at from our affiliate kron which has a different vantage point, some people who are standing around, but it looks like, kyung that the roeters, are yroe protesters, are you in an area where the media is and the
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protesters are pushed back? can you explain the layout? >> reporter: where i'm standing is, if you have an aerial vantage point, it looks like there's a ring around this building. i'm standing pretty close to this light that's burning. so i can see the entire arc of this crowd, and as this fire gets bigger and bigger, there are cheers from this crowd and people getting closer to try to take pictures, which is astonishing to me, and the firecrackers are still going off. so -- >> and there we see another blaze. >> reporter: there's another fire being set here. that's an american flag that they have set on fire. ooh. so yeah. i can't tell from where i'm at, because i'm standing toward the front, close to the fire. i can't tell how far back this crowd goes, but from where i am, there's a ring of protesters surrounding this building. there are dozens and dozens and
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dozens of protesters standing around, just watching all of this happen. so we did hear from the police that they were going to try to cheer th clear this area. >> this fire is spreading. i assume that's the gasoline. >> reporter: that's a tree catching on fire. let's back up. >> it looks like not only that tree could, it looks like the fire could get close to the building. there are police who have been monitoring this from that very balcony. they will have to move off from that direct area because of the smoke and the actual flames. that is the balcony that there were police not only with what appeared to be tear gas devices but also a bull horn in order to try to get people to move away, telling people that they face arrest if they remain at this demonstration. we're going to take a quick break. we're going to return to this protest at berkley, california. more news ahead. we'll be right back.
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and welcome back. you're looking at live pictures from similar but different vantage points from berkley, california. protesters storming an event with milo yiannopoulos. our kyung lah is joining us. any sense that the crowds are starting to dissipate? >> reporter: no, absolutely not. we've moved sort of closer to try to get a look at who these protesters are. they're very young faces. i can't tell if they're all students or not. but you can see the size of the crowd. it's almost turned into a party atmosphere here, as word is spreading that the speaker will not be, that the event will not be moving forward, and even though we've seen incendiary
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devices go off, we've seen them tip over that light. there's a fire going on. part of the tree caught fire, they are beginning, again, to try to approach the building, so it's, it doesn't look like this crowd is moving, but what the police department has announced is that they want this crowd to disburse. we can see police officers on the balcony of this building. and you look over here, look over there, jordan, you can see that there are basically, it feels like a street party. it's so unusual, given that just a few minutes ago, we were seeing them ramming barricades into the windows of the student building. as i look inside, i can see that a lot of the windows have been smashed. and i'm going to move a little bit closer this way. and i'm not sure, anderson, if you're seeing my camera or not,
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but there are a lot of signs here that say "resist", "this is war", a number of signs saying that, looking at this one, "no safe space for racists", and a lot of people dancing. i'm going to guess that the people in all black who have their faces covered, because this is an area known for, for lack of a better term, professional protests in the bay area, that they are not students. but some of them are. i mean, i can, or they're just wearing the school clothing. but -- >> okay. you know, kyung -- >> reporter: the song that they're playing, i just want to point out. >> no, go ahead. go ahead. >> reporter: the song that they're playing is a rap song, with donald trump's name in it. so earlier, i was talking about how national politics hangs over all of this. it certainly is. they're playing it. and they're playing the song,
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they are, at the same time, angry about the speaker, but also angry about national politics. or, they could just be using it as a reason to riot. that's another option that could be happening as well. if you look at the depth of this crowd, anderson. >> stand by with us if you will. on the phone is a reporter with the campus paper. thanks so much for being with us. how -- can you just explain sort of your vantage point on this, kind of what the schedule, how, how this all transpired? >> caller: okay. so a lot of, so people started dancing around 5:00, there was an organization called this is fascism.org that started the protest. around the time when milo was supposed to speak they moved around the mlk student union
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where he was supposed to speak. and there was a lot of organization to block the doors. they covered, they surrounded the entire building. also while that was happening, some individuals in black started a fire on bancroft way. blocking off traffic. and then i went back to the building and saw that there was firecrackers that had went off. people started breaking the glass of the student union. and then that's kind of when they canceled the event. >> and is that the building we're looking at now? is that the student union where the event was to take place? >> reporter: yes, yes, that's the building where the fire is in front of, currently. and people are surrounding the fire, dancing. >> and is it your sense that most of these, most of the people protesting are actually students? you mentioned this group that was trying to organize it on
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social media. is that a student group? >> caller: no, that is actually a group from the berkley community, except i'm not exactly sure. they just told me that they were with this is fascism.org. i also saw berkley high school teachers here. i'm not sure if they're berkley high school students, but i saw a few teachers. a lot of older people too, not just students, but yeah, i would say a lot are students and professors. >> and how much of this is about this particular speaker who we've seen demonstrations against this speaker on other college campuses, and how much is it a larger protest about other issues? about whether it's donald trump or whatever it may be? >> caller: yeah, so i was covering the event, so i don't really know what, i mean, i know that they were doing a lot of chants against trump and against fascism. and there were a lot of chants against the new presidency. but a lot of it was to do with
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milo and how i saw a lot of posters that said hate speech is not free speech. stuff like that. >> how much publicity did this speech have in advance? and i'm assuming this is not a live picture, this is actually people, looks like they're hammering at windows. i guess it's of the student union and ramming barricades, do you have a sense, melanie of what kind of police presence is there right now? we see police officers inside the building. we saw some on the balcony. are there many on the ground in front of the building at all? >> caller: i don't see many police officers among the crowd. a lot of them are on the balcony. it's mostly students that are surrounding the fire. >> and is it all just campus police officers? or is it local police officers as well?
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>> caller: i'm not sure if the berkley police department is here, bu here, but the university police department is here, and they had police departments from other u.c. campuses come up for this event as well. >> i'm not sure how long you've been at u.c. berkley, but how often are there protests on campus? >> well, i've been here for a year, and protests happen very, very often. it's just the nature of the school. and it's something i cover as a journalist here as well. so yeah, protesting is a thing here on campus. >> and in terms of the protests you've seen in your year there, is this the largest or the most, i don't know how common it is to have fires lit, what do you make of it? >> caller: yeah, so i mean, i covered on election night, i mean, this is the biggest protest i've seen in terms of how much it escalated.
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i've never seen fires before or tear gas or rubber bullets, but on election night they marched down telegraph and they did that on inauguration day. >> and we saw attempts to extinguish the flames. you mentioned rubber bullets and tear gas, do you know for a fact that those have been used? >> caller: i'm sorry, can you repeat that? >> do you know that rubber bulletes a bullets and tear gas have actually been used? >> caller: yes, i was there when the rubber bullets were used, and i've never experienced tear gas. >> we saw windows being broken, people in black. these are live images, a window that must have been shattered
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sometime earlier. it does look, kyung, in this view from i think your camera, there are a lot of people milling around very close to the building. is there a police presence actually on the ground, outside the building? are they mostly inside the building? >> reporter: the police officers we've seen are right above us on the second floor, and what you're seeing here is, you know u the barricades, the result of some of these protesters ramming barricades through the first floor here. you can see for yourself, anderson. they have taken these steel barricades and rammed through at least some of these windows, and take a look down this way. you can see a barricade sticking out of the window. i don't see any officers here, at least where i'm standing. you can taste and feel the tear gas that's been deployed. but, you know, other than that, there's really no sign of the
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police, just right in my vantage point. i did earlier see them on the second floor. one of the students, he just saw them. but i don't see any police officers here on the ground floor. and you can see there's quite a bit of a crowd. i want to walk you over this way. excuse us. you can see this way. you can see, get a better look at the crowd. this is a large crowd. and despite police orders, telling them to clear out, they're not going anywhere. and they're still chanting. they're still dancing. we were asking about some of the homemade shields. i can see some of them here. they're holding them up. they're using them. and they're surrounding this, what's left of this fire, almost as if it's a party, you can see people moving around and dancing. so, you know, the police did give the order to disburse some time ago. it was at least 10 or 15 minutes ago, and no one here is heeding
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that order. >> kyung lah, appreciate it. we will look at whether donald trump supporters are happy with his supreme court choice and his executive order on immigration. that's next. z282uz zwtz y282uy ywty hey julie, i know today's critic...need a sick day. dads don't take sick days. dads take dayquil severe: the... ...non-drowsy, coughing, aching, fever, sore throat, stuffy... ...head, no sick days medicine.
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the trump administration isn't even two weeks old, and the reviews are mixed as you would ex-nepect in this polariz nation. some protesters are on the berkley campus tonight. the very same night many are celebrating that donald trump is delivering on his campaign promises. tonight what people are saying on a conservative talk radio show in pennsylvania. they're not all on the same page, but they are an important piece of the story. randi kaye report ths. >> reporter: just hours after donald trump announced his pick for the supreme court, the phone lines at 1210 kpht radio are on
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fire. >> i think this is what we elected trump to do. this is a hatchet fight. it's not reaching across the aisle. it's not playing nice. it's not trying to be professional. it's hand-to-hand combat. >> let's go to joy. >> i like the pick. because he's in the same mold as scalia. >> reporter: one said she thinks the nomination is a major loss for democrats. >> when it comes to abortion and the immigration laws, everything, a lot has changed in over 200 years, and i think that the democrats are kind of looking at maybe more of a modern-day take on the constitution whereas this guy is just representing another conservative view. >> reporter: listneeners also
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ready to weigh in on steve bannon who many consider the architect of the travel ban. . >> i file lieel like he's the oh the godfather >> think donald trump is an executive and appreciates the unique tools he brings to the table. only person in the room able to connect the dots. change maker and disrupter, true north. >> not everyone is sold. >> sven galley, forward turning leader headed into the apocalypse. i voted for trump. he's making me nervous. liability. way out. >> caller described him as nasty and devious. >> brought in to be the old junk yard dog.
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that's only good he serves. need to get back into the kennel. >> travel ban on muslims and refugees, mixed opinions on that too. >> doing what he said he would do, everybody going nuts. obama didn't do anything he said he would do. we have to vet people coming into the country. that's law. trump is saying enforce the laws there. >> extreme vetting is nonsense. process takes 2 1/2 to 3 years. if i'm terrorist and plan on getting over here, it's least efficient, you'd be a stupid terrorist. >> of all the topics earlier steve bannon got them most fired up. asked the host why? he seems to think listeners believe in the utopia that he seems to have, will deliver on
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this heavenly country to conservatives. he also thinks his listeners see bannon as mythological figure, genius, like where he is, with the president's ear and whispering in it and think he has great influence over the president and happy about that. >> thanks randi. just ahead fallout from the travel ban overseas and here at home. healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose. the east and the west are mine. the north and the south are mine. all seems beautiful to me.
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quick update at berkeley. milo yiannopoulos just spoke. i have been evacuated from the campus as violent left-wing protesters lit fires. my team and i are safe. event is canceled. let you know more when the facts become clear. he says the left is terrified of free speech and do anything to shut it down.
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and before the break heard callers on conservative talk radio about donald trump and his policies. thomas friedman is explainer of things going on. new book is out. i spoke to him earlier. in terms of the overseas reaction. even if it's short-term and temporary ban, long-term ramifications. >> look at it two ways. one is ban itself, do in iraq, so contradictory, asking iraqis now to join us in battle against isis in mosul and asking all sunni muslims to join us. at the same time saying you're banned from coming to our country for the next 90 to 120 days at least. at the same time they're watching cnn and the news, what they're seeing is incredible
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sign of health in our society. embrace of pluralism. people going into the streets all over the country actually to resist this ban. i don't think the message is just one way. think about what a remarkable country this is. we twice have elected a black man who defeated a woman who ran against a mormon. who does that? it's beautiful thing about america but don't sense that donald trump embraces that. >> if you're in iraq right now and u.s. forces on the ground, president is talking about taking your oil, which he's talked about during the campaign, and questioned him about that. made no sense, actual plan. send in u.s. oil companies surrounded with troops and take the oil, to the victors go the spoilz. talked about that as president of the united states. saying we haven't done it, maybe we'll have another chance.
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do you get people to cooperate in the fight against radical islamists and people we need are muslims, whether we like it or not. >> talk about the oil thing first. how brain dead stupid it is, you don't go in with a straw, take oil out like a milkshake and leave. it's spread out, would have to permanently occupy iraq. >> and by the way, they're allies, not enemy we're the victor over, they're supposedly our ally we're helping, that's the idea. genesis wiping isis off the face of the earth. at the same time we may take your oil and don't apply for the visa. and what bothers me more iraqi, syrian, egyptian, just to name a few thinking of coming to
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america to study. this is iphone. invented actually by guy named steve jobs. c conceived by him. guy who conceived steve jobs, immigrant to university of wisconsin in 1950s, came from syria. so this phone actually, now the center of our lives, started with a syrian immigrant who came to our country because he believed in the american dream. >> also interesting the countries on this list, and which are not. saudi arabia, which you know, 9/11 hijackers, majority or saudi if memory serves me. afghanistan not on the list. >> and egypt and conceived by pakistani. makes no rhyme or reason. probably countries that can
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least defend themselves from this kind of thing. >> you hear from people who say this makes me feel safer. heard a lot about feelings in the campaign. well i don't feel like things are better, don't feel safer but the reality is if you look at who committed terror attacks in the united states it's not refugees coming in. >> right. and there's no question, the trump campaign spent enormous amount of energy making people afraid. afraid of muslims, mexicans, trade and globalization and presenting donald trump as the man who will protect you from all of that. frankly it worked. that's not to say there aren't real issues around this. islam has issues with pluralism. trade has cost some jobs. all have a grain of truth and maybe more in some ways. the challenge for a moderate
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republicans and democrats is to acknowledge what is true and -- trump has grabbed people by the gut and taken them i think to a bad place. i think the challenge of moderates is to grab them by the guts, acknowledge your concerns and fears but let's go to a different place. where he's taking you actually won't work. >> tom friedman. thank you so much. hand over to don lemon for "cnn tonight," see you tomorrow night. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon. look at that. live pictures now. breaks news out of california. the speech by controversial brietbart editor at uc berkeley canceled tonight in the wake of protests that turned violent. looking at live pictures. want to get to national correspondent on the scene. following it for