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president trump and pence making it official after laboring questions about his lack of government experience and business ties with russia, rex tillerson is secretary of state. they had the consequences of the decisi decision. >> i returned from a visit with a great, great family. it was something very sad and very beautiful. ryan was a great man. secretary tillerson, i first want to congratulate you and your entire family on this incredible honor. it is that. an incredible honor. you bring the unique skills and deep, deep insights and i got to see it firsthand into foreign diplomacy and the nation needs
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to foster security in a world too often trapped. right now it's trapped in violence and in war. you understand that the job of our diplomats and the mission of the state department is to serve the interests of the united states of america to make our nation safer, our country more prosperous and our people much more secure. in that mission you also understand the importance of strengthening our alliances and forming new alliances to enhance our strategic interest and the safety of our people. your whole life prepared you and you had a tremendous life and doing it magnificently. i can say this is a man that is respected all over the world
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before he even begins. and he is beginning the most important journey. this is where you were meant to be right here today at this cross roads in history. it's time to bring a clear eyed focus to foreign affairs to take a fresh look at the world around us and seek new solutions grounded in very ancient truths. they have a right to pursue their own destiny and all of us are better off and we act in concert and not in conflict. there has rarely been conflict like we have in the world today. very sad. i'm excited for you and excited for your family.
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perhaps most importantly i am excited for our great country. though you inherit and we can achieve peace and stability in these troubled times. may god bless you in this journey and may god bless our very, very special and great country. thank you very much. >> president trump noted he is just back from dover air force base and the return of the owens slain in that over the weekend. more on that from elise. >> a scathing protest is
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growing. protesting the policy banning visas from seven majority countries. in an internal memo, they warn the executive order will not achieve the aim of making the country safer and is likely to alienate allies in counter terrorism efforts and increase anti-american sentiment and foster extremism. >> it is unprecedented and goes to the deep and brought concern over the actions taken. >> it came in and awarded employees without retribution. from the white house, and they should get with the program or go. >> one long time officer used his farewell address to stay and uphold their oath to defend
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america from all enemies foreign and domestic. >> the tell us without professionals was by definition an amateur policy. you have to bring the country forward. >> they're must confront allies that they are increasing the threat with the latest moves. >> they will use any opportunity they can to make difficulties to create the environment they want to radicalize people to bring them over to their side. it is propaganda for them potentially. >> in canada one lawmaker compared trump's policies to fascism. >> we will call for the canadian government to stand up to the fascist donald trump. >> hear hear! >> is he expected to try to smooth things over when he starts work tomorrow?
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>> that's what diplomats are hoping. i spoke to a lot of them and they say one of the early things he can do is come in and speak to some of the authors. it's not just about this policy, but the way it was rolled out. it was not consulted at all. they will be backing for assurances and he hears them and respects them. that can go a long way. he said he wants to hear from people throughout the building and speak to their interest and concerns. they will be looking for him to set the tone as someone who is willing to listen to his foreign
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service. >> we will talk to the panel about that. they had a warning for iran and a failed medium range missile test. >> president trump criticized the agreements reached between iran and the obama administration as being weak and ineffective. iran is now feeling emboldened. as of today, we are putting iran on notice. >> the general did not take questions and did not specifically point out what being on notice is. obviously a strong from secretary flint. what's the latest? >> some people are calling this a red line if it is at this point. it was meant to sound like a
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hard line. this is after the missile launch that is considering a range of options that nothing is off the table whether they contacted iran. they did though take the opportunity to criticize the o bam administration's response. that caused the obama administration to lash out. they are going on twitter and saying that look, while this is going on, there is an escalating situation of violence in ukraine. they chose to call out iran and the obama administration and not criticize vladimir putin. >> thanks very much. joining us is trump supporter and editor jeffrey lord and
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contributor to the hill and "new york times" columnist and analyst mark herdly. let's start with you. we heart him talk about being on notice. you don't do it in this manner. the reason i say that because many will tell you is the language is very precise. there is no definition of putting people on notice. it's troubling first of all. to have a military guy or former military guy standing in the adviser's role saying this in the open and two of the five paragraphs in this press release and by the way it's a press
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release. it wasn't delivered to that country and allies were not informed and most importantly the military was not informed. the commander said he had no idea this was going on. this is another uncoordinated action being announced by a military guy to the press without the diplomatic soft stroke that you have to take. i get it that mr. trump is a different president, but he is dealing with sovereign nations and this is unfortunate. >> jeff? >> i lds disagree. i want to read you a line after trump was inaugurated after he received a question on the soviet union. the president broke all kinds of land records here when he said the soviet union had open low and publicly declared that the only morality they recognize is what will further their cause
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meaning they reserve the right to commit any crime to lie and cheat. >> i can only tell you in the world of washington and diplomacy and the media, they were aghast that a president of the united states would say this. his point was he was sending a message to the soviet union. that's what general flynn is doing. reagan was the president of the united states and said these things. there was a reason to do these things. he did it. >> that's a statement. there was a power in that message that said this is what i'm going to do. it wasn't bluster. we have seen a lot of that. we have seen a lot of action and not a strategy or progress. there is a lot of difference between actions and signing
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things. he came in with a strategy and that was part of it. as others have said, why isn't he talking about what's going on in ukraine. they advanced on three different axis. why aren't we talking about that? >> the pick up on the general's point, today it became much more kinetic that means forces are engaging. 19 people killed in eastern ukraine just to the north. these are russian-backed separatists fighting the sovereign nation of ukraine and we are saying nothing while the iranians have tested a missile and the united states has a right to call hem on that and explain.
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it's better done in concert with allies and diplomats and the generals. the contrast is being noted. the president spoke to president putin. we haven't gotten that conversation, but he did when he spoke to the australian prime minister. he told the prime minister implying he et gets along better with putin who is supporting separatists who are killing allies. this is amateur hour and it's dangerous. >> there were a lot of republicans asking why isn't the obama administration talking as we like? they are using tehran talking points. harsh words. for mike flynn, a high ranking general, he know what is he is
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doing. they attacked the ship thinking it might have been an american ship or a dress rehearsal from defense analyst for him to come out and say iran is on notice, i'm not sure why that is controversial. >> i would go back to russia one more time instead of deflecting back to iran and ballistic missiles in their sovereign right to do. it is not outlined as that is against the law. they have done something they have the right to do and russia continues in the 19 casualties and deaths today, they have been building and it's continuous after mr. trump's phone call. this is an allied nation.
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he has a rich history and they have a specific history. we need to see putting around on notice. donald trump is so far governing as he campaigned. he spent a lot of time talking about his displeasure with the iran nuclear deal and signalled he had a different add tut than the obama administration and we are seeing that in this. this is part of the larger context. we have to look at the bigger picture. >> we have to take a picture. the first lady responds of reports she may never move into the white house. the latest on that ahead. i mean wish i had time to take care of my portfolio, but..
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giving the address where they made pointed comments and suggestions. do you think this is much a do about nothing or is this a good thing? >> this is a good thing. i'm sure he's a good person and it's all professional, but don't let the door hit you on the way out. >> i kind of knew that. this is problems for them filled with lots of liberals. most of them are unionized and i looked at this and they gave it to republicans. they think they are running the country.
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the president of the united states be it donald trump or barack obama or anyone else is the person who went out here and did the hard work and got elected. they were expected to run the government. if they don't like the policy, heavens, resign. >> why shouldn't the president have the people. >> it was done to bill clinton. some history created by dean rusk in 1971. we were engaged in vietnam. a lot thought it was a bad yet. it was one of the great successes. it does that and allows experts to speak out when they believe the government is wrong without having to resign and when president clinton was president, about a dozen folks sent messages saying we were being too weak on ethnic cleansing in bosnia. they wound up being right. we went to war to stop it. 50 or 51 when president obama
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was in office saying we were being weak on syria. we haven't changed the policy. we will see what president trump does. ike said never confusion honest decent with disloyal subversion. the state department gives an award for them. that's how wonderfully that took hold. you don't want a bureaucracy. >> there is a difference between trying to sabotage it. >> it's interesting because donald trump said as a leader he likes to hear decenting voices. >> did he say that? this is largely about liberals in the bureaucracy.
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this is about in this early phase of administration. without being vetted and getting the input that would normally be caught and received. a lot of people are feeling shutout of the process and feeling things are being done done in a rash way. we have seen that in terms of confusion. green cards were affected or not. was this a 20% tariff. orders have been written and think that's part of what is fueling the robustness. >> i think we have two categories. to paulo point, they have been here for years and years. what we saw earlier in the week, the acting attorney general to
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not defend the action. >> oath is to the constitution and not to the president. >> the phone call with australia's prime minister earlier. "the washington post" just wrote about it and explain what occurred in this. >> president trump smoke on a day where he had five phone calls with world leaders and trump has taken issue with a refugee agreement between the united states and australia under president obama that would allow roughly 1200 refugees in australia to apply to enter the united states through the screening process. he got angry with the prime minister about that according to the sources. the all only lasted about 25 minutes. among the things that trump did
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as he bragged about the magnitude of his electoral college win and the crowds is something he has begun doing and that happened with the australian prime minister and at one point he told the that look, i have spoken with four other world leaders including vladimir putin and this was the worst call by far. that's pretty strong language for the president to be making to the australian leader. australia is one of the u.s.'s long time allies on trade, intelligence sharing and defense matters. >> this call took place saturday? >> that was a day when trump was at the white house making calls to various leaders. >> fascinating details. from "the washington post" with details on the call. >> i mean paul, why do you bring it up? >> it's astonishing.
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australia is one of our closest allies. we will have arguments, but it's vexing that the president wants to pick fights with our allies. the mexicans and now apparently with the australians. the british are talking about not allowing him to come to the country and not a peep about the aggression by russia. he seems to be more pro russia than pro ally. >> one of the things is that donald trump and elsewhere in the world, there is an upset, if you will, a revolution whether it's in america or around the globe. it sounds like it is of that variety. >> why not in the white house is
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talking about iran will you have people being killed by advancing. >> i don't know the ins and outs of that, but i am sure as these things are brought to his attention, he will deal with it. what the conversation with the australian prime minister says to me is he is fearless whether he was dealing with jeb bush or whoever, he is now on the world stage and he will be fearless with this. it's easier to beat up on australia. >> if he felt there was cause, he would do it in a heartbeat. >> how his victory went down. when is he going to talk about that? all this talk about him leading a movement which in his words
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the likes in which the world has never seen. there are plenty of other antecede antecedent. i am getting tired of are heading him about using that to talk about how great his victory night was. this is not presidential. >> it represents a movement to challenge the status quo. >> would you describe the size of this movement? there may be a movement, but he literally says the likes of which the world has never seen. >> that the world has never seen anything like this movement. >> lots of stories that he is a president like no other. >> we know that president trump talks about his victories with morn leaders. >> what's the tonight of that.
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>> for the first time we have american policy. i understand you want to focus on the electoral victory, but i want to focus on the other half. i thought it was far more important. we had a somali refugee and attack citizens. for him to advocate for america's interest and say we are putting a halt to this even if the prime minister doesn't like that, that is a good thing. >> he doesn't need to take this digrigz all the time. >> this is a case study where as the american public is 50 on the world stage and we'll advocate for the interest. it is posed as an american first
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policy. what we are seeing, that's an america only policy. that's troubling to me. we spent decades trying to build alliances and what we are seeing in the first 13 or 14 days is a lot of signatures on executive orders. what we haven't seen yet is a reaction to a crisis. when that happens and think it will in the next 30 to 60 days. he will look for alliances and the campaign where he was assaulting all the other candidates. they all came around to him. when he tries to find the threat, he will find america all by itself. >> we have a lot more ahead, president trump's preem court pick and courtesy calls to senators and battles over the picks ramped up. republicans voted without democrats when they boycotted
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>> the federal appeals judge had their first round of meetings on capitol hill with vice president pence at his side. chuck grassley plans to be in confirmation hearings in six weeks. that comes after republicans refuse to hear president obama's pick to fill the same seat. they have to decide how aggressive they want to be. president trump advised senate majority leader advisedto tomttm
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to go nuclear. >> this consumed a lot of debate internally at a private retreat in west virginia. talking about the tactics as well as a private lunch meeting as well. and liberal fire brands want to fight this nomination and do everything they can to block gorsuch from getting the spot. ones up for reelection is reserving judgment and they are saying maybe this is not the fight to wage since the conservative may be worried about the next time. they don't have to worry about seeing republicans gut the filibuster and worry about the fight if it's a conservative replacing a liberal justice. that is putting leaders like chuck sumner a tricky spot. >> i know you talked about calls
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from the left. >> man chin is one that they are courting. he met with neal gorsuch earlier today warning liberals that it's time to work with president trump including on this nominee or they can risk super minority status. take a listen. >> if we are going to be back in the majority, they will have to work with moderates and people from red states like myself that may not be able to support certain levels of a base that goes there. they have to understand that or they will be in the super mi minority. >> this is the crux of the debate on how to move forward. liberals believe it's time to move back to the ideological roots. people like joe manchin may get overruled.
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>> they want to go nuclear if necessary, lower the threshold for a nominee from 60 to 51. how do republicans feel about that? >> they are open to it and even though they oppose changing the rules in the past. i talked to a number of republican who is are not ruleing it out. they are saying bluntly down to the rank and file, no matter what, donald trump will get his nominee confirmed. he can read between the lines and they are rate to go nuclear. >> now the other battles, we confirmed exxon-mobil ceo rex tillerson as the next secretary of state. we have the latest here. the republican moves to push through several nominees. >> the partisanship is not exactly a new development.
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we are seeing what changed the moves in committee to move them along. they were in the midst of their second boycott over the course of two days. while it exists, these moved through nominees and it's a regular order. we moved far beyond that and the underlying reason is this. democrats as it stands have no mechanism of blocking. if they stick together every one of president trump's nominees will be confirmed. because of that, democrats are trying to pull any lever they can find to slow the process down. we have seen a lot of frustrated republicans even if it doesn't track. are that's right. this is the new normal and it's getting personal. i want to play this for you.
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this is not how they are supposed to happen. >> when describing this history, senator cruz misrepresented what happened. i would like to take this opportunity to set the record straight. i would think that was in his absence. >> here should be here. are they make the case and go back to you. >> i not to this. we are here to talk about the president's nominee and not his colleague. disparaging a colleague on this commtee and particularly in the colleague's absence. it's inappropriate and i object. >> can i speak to that? >> you can speak to it, but we would be better off if we let it go. >> you mean let me continue my
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speech? >> would you do that please? >> i will. thank you. >> we are seeing exchanges like that break out. republicans have stayed in line and haven't broken at all. that changed today. they are they could be opposed to betsy devos as education secretary. republicans can lose three senators and at this point, they are not expected to do that. this is as tight as it can get. the vote will be 50-50. republicans control the white house. mike pence, the president and his capacity will come up and cast the tie breaking vote. >> for the trump presidency, a lot is under scrutiny and in a moment i will speak with glen beck who was no fan of president
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president trump pledged to get things done in office and whether you support him or not, he is living up to that promise. it has been a busy time. in less than two weeks he has signed more than a dozen actions. with immigration and refugees and he announced judge neal gorsuch. especially with the pick he won over any of those who criticized him.
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glen beck and syndicated radio host. >> glen, you had a fair share of criticism of kennedy, trump, and president trump. does it make you rethink your assessment of the president he would turn out to be. >> yeah, in some ways yes and some ways no. this is a great surprise for a constitutional conservative. that was skeptical of what president trump might do. i apologized to everyone who listened to me and i said during the primary, if you are hanging your hat on this, i don't think it's a done deal. i department think he would, but he did. for all of those evangelicals that put everything aside, this
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is a big move for donald trump for them. >> what about what else you have seen? i assume they are concerns you continue to have. >> yeah. several. let's take the muslim ban. i saw president trump as he was signing it talking about a ban, i thought oh, my gosh. this was one of the things i thought was horrible and how is this happening through executive order. this was horrible. i watched it on the news and i heard the media talk about it and then i went and i read the executive order. it's not a ban. it's a pause. it may turn into a ban. i don't know. it may turn into nothing. i don't know. it's a pause. what happened was i think
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president trump was calling it a ban to throw a bone to the people who want a muslim ban and i don't know who those people are and the mead why picked it up and without reading it or knowing it was a ban called it a ban and everybody started to march. i will tell you, you have been in dangerous places in the world. there comes a time when you can sense trouble coming. donald trump is a counter puncher. good or bad, like it or not. if you hit him back, he said i will hit you back twice as hard. people in the press are hitting him back. i hit him back. he hits back twice as hard. we are escalating things. my question to the american people is, how does this end?
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we have to -- i feel like matthew broderick in war games and saying the only way to win is not play the game. how do we not continue to escalate until we are killing each other. this is a thought process that you have been undertaking for a while. you are reflective of your own past comments and you talked about adding to divisiveness in the past. this is a continuation for that and for you, what is the answer? i know many people in the press say it's you have to stand up for facts and what is true and what is not. you shouldn't have a knee jerk
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response. >> i gave an interview to somebody this week and they said can you name an intellectually honest and curious reporter? i can come up with one name and it was yours. i'm not saying that because i was on your program. that was the response. i don't know enough people who are actually intellectually curious and honest. they will look at the ban and say why are we running this story. i have not heard anyone in the media say there were things we did who were wrong. >> one of the things that were the former chief of staff who
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talked about the talked about campaigning to being president and being in the white house and governing. particularly for president trump who has not served in government previously. that transition and for president obama it was and many candidates. it's a difficult thing. i wonder what you have been seeing is part of a realignment and transitioning and figuring out the government and how much is something more. >> i don't -- i'm not sure. i am again compelled to express my concern about steve bannon. he is a very dangerous man and is a self proclaimed leninist who appreciates lenin's
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technique of burning everything down and destroying the system to rebuild another one. i don't know if it's politics and if there is a bigger game, but each of us and me included have to watch our words and say how do i deescalate this. you only going to ratchet and make you more angry, the press has a profound responsibility to tell the truth and not politic or campaign or be viewed as an army or a service of one party. and to me that means you almost have to overcorrect on some things but not when it comes to the truth. >> well, i agree with you on that, and i do think it's easy to get into a pattern in covering things, even if you're
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not in public life, just as a citizen watching things, to instantly have a knee jerk reaction of a negative knee jerk reaction. i think that's the easiest thing in the world to do, and i think all of us have to check ourselves whatever political stripe we are, whatever our role is in looking at things with fresh eyes and with unbiassed eyes. i think that's the most critical thing for certainly reporters. reporters to do. >> let's just keep our eye on things and try to be reasonable, and just be vigilant on that. >> i appreciate your being on. >> thank you. up next, more breaking news. melania trump responding to a report that she might not move to washington. a report on that ahead. ♪
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well, there's more breaking news, first lady melania trump is responding to a story about whether she and her son barron will eventually move to the white house. the statement, mrs. trump will be moving to washington d.c., settling and splitting her time between new york and d.c. in the meantime. she has taken the responsibilities of the role of first lady very seriously. she's going to go about her role in a pragmatic and thoughtful way that is unique to her. president trump's daughters what the one who traveled with him to dover air force base. more now on the first lady.
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>> congratulations mr. president. >> reporter: it's been 12 days since her husband was sworn in, and melania trump has yet to return to washington d.c. without her living under the same roof, the responsibilities of the first lady are in limbo. that means no white house tours and no appointed social secretary, there's no one to plan state dinners or the annual easter egg roll. >> we must find better ways to honor and support the basic goodness of our children, especially in social media. >> reporter: mrs. trump says she plans to take on cyber bullying as first lady, but she has not yet announced a platform of causes or event or her washington callender. she has also not hired a full staff. all things past first ladies have done almost immediately after their husbands take office.
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in november, her husband told reporters that mrs. trump would delay their move to washington until 10 year old barron trump completes his school year. president trump said the first family would return to d.c. on weekends. but melania has not returned since the first sunday after president trump was sworn in, which is also their wedding anniversary. the only site sighting of her was on monday night when the paparazzi saw her running errands. melania trump made few public appearances on the campaign trail, a decision she told anderson cooper was hers. >> they would have me on the trail all the time. they wish to have me there. but i made the decision. i will be a parent to our boy, to our child. >> reporter: she spoke at the republican national convention in august, where she was met with allegations she plagiarized part of her speech.
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>> he's tough when he has to be, but he's also kind and fair and caring. this kindness is not always noted. but it is there for all to see. >> reporter: and she defended her husband when the "access hollywood" tapes were released, calling it "boy talk." >> i said to my husband that the language is unappropriate. it's not acceptable. i accept his apology. i hope the american people will accept it as well. and it was many, many years ago. he's not the man that i know. >> reporter: she traveled to washington for the inauguration, looking every bit the first lady
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in a jackie kennedy-inspired ensemble and gave brief remarks at the armed services ball, thanking attendees for their service. >> i'm honored to be our first lady. we will fight. we will win. and we will make america great again. >> and kate bennett joins me now. i understand there's new information about the first lady's transition to d.c. >> reporter: that's right. the first lady's office announced she has hired her first official staff member, lindsey reynolds, to be her chief of staff. in the release tonight about the hiring, ms. reynolds says she is putting together a professional and highly experienced team which will take time. i'm excited to be bringing together such a dynamic and forward thinking group of individuals who will work together to make our country better for everyone. again, ms. reynolds is the first official hire. the first lady has yet to hire a communications person, a social secretary. there's still many, many open positions in the east wing. however, ms. reynolds says she plans to get the visitors' office up and running so tours can resume as quickly as possible.
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>> thank you very much. our breaking news on president trump's national security adviser michael flynn, the fallout from telling iran that it's officially on notice. >> welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm john vause in los angeles. >> and i'm isa. thank you for joining us. australia's prime minister is refusing to comment on a heated phone call over the weekend with u.s. president donald trump. sources tell cnn mr. trump rejected an agreement to take in more than 1,000 refugees. many of the seven countries from th
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