tv United Shades of America CNN February 4, 2017 7:00pm-8:01pm PST
7:00 pm
funding won't be offset by spending cuts because the plan is a national security priority. >> we see this as something that is of crisis proportions, with respect to opioids, with respect to drugs, with respect to the fact that we have a porous border. so this is a national security issue. >> reporter: manu raju, cnn, capitol hill. it is the top of the hour. i'm boris sanchez in atlanta and this is a special live edition of "cnn newsroom." welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. we start tonight with breaking news. moments ago, during a gala at his resort in palm beach florida, president trump told reporters that he's confident his travel ban will be reinstated. the president's post comes as the department of justice formally challenges a federal judge's decision to temporarily block mr. trump's executive order, which bans citizens from seven muslim majority countries from traveling to the united states. cnn's sara sidner is outside the ninth circuit court of appeals, where the legal papers are going to be filed.
7:01 pm
sara, what happens next? >> reporter: so here is what we know as far as procedure. and it is all very procedural at this point. right now, there's a motion to appeal. the appeal has not actually been filed, but the notice of appeal has been filed with the court in washington. and from there, we're expecting the department of justice to file an appeal with the ninth circuit court. what will that then activate? it will activate likely three judges, who are on a monthly basis, three people decide these emergency stays. they decide whether or not they are going to agree with the courts, that the lower court or whether or not they are going to disagree with the lower court. so that's where we are now. likely, this will happen, electronically, either over e-mail or a phone call, but what we are still waiting to see is exactly what the department of justice files. we are expecting them to try to file something that would stop the court from enforcing that
7:02 pm
stop tonight ban, if that makes sense to you. so basically, they're trying to say, we want the ban reinstated while this goes through the court. now, we already know that the judge in washington has been very clear in his statements, that he is, feels this needs to be put on hold for now, but the case will still happen. there will still be likely, perhaps, a file in his particular courtroom, with the case that's been filed by the attorney general of washington. though this ninth circuit court of appeals could decide, you know what, wegree with the doj or we agree with washington. now,hat's going to happen next and what is the likelihood that the ninth circuit court of appeals is going to agree with the doj? we asked a legal expert, rory little, who is a uc hastings professor about that. >> the trump administration would have to say, there's something about this stay that harms us, irreparably, and i'm
7:03 pm
not sure that we would really have any showing on that, since the immigration authorities still have authority to keep out bad guys, whether this order's in place or not. you can always keep out bad guys. and then they would have to say, the trump administration would have to say, on the merits, the judge was very clearly wrong. in other words, when he says there's a likelihood of success on the merits, you would have to say, no, there's no chance of success on the merits. so, the standard to get this reversal is really very high and i think unlikely. >> reporter: and one thing he mentioned, he said, you know, the country should be heartened that what happened here is that there are three branchs, right, of government, that are supposed to be checks and balances, and that the executive branch is listening to the judicial branch. they have reversed and dope exactly what the courts have ordered. and saying, look, now people from those seven countries that have legal documents to come into the united states are allowed in. at least for now. boris? >> yes, sara, it's a rapidly
7:04 pm
changing situation, and a lot of travelers might wind up in legal limbo. thank you so much for the update. after the judge temporarily halted the travel ban last night, airlines were told to operate as normal, and that means that previously banned travelers are now being allowed on flights to the united states. so where do they wind up? what happens to them now? i'll put that question to immigration attorney and an immigration law professor, michael wilds. for transparency, we should tell you, he represents the trump model agency and he actually represented first lady melania trump when her immigration status was questioned. so, michael -- >> good evening, boris. >> good evening. so specifically, about these travelers that might wind up in legal limbo if there's a reversal of this temporary restraining order, what happens to them if they're, again, in the air and land as this thing is reversed? >> it's like a giant yo-yo, unfortunately. and you should see the e-mails and text messages and the extraordinary delicacy of the council thwe're giving clients e
7:05 pm
world and nation over. these individuals could be stopped at a moment's notice, the way this is going pip doubt the tro will be removed. the court is a more liberal court and the judge would have had to errored after seeing all the testimony, they the often defer to the district judge. but effectively, the trump administration would have a better snapshot this weekend than they had last weekend to handle in a gentlemanly sense, the individuals that are coming. let me give you a little bit of a snapshot, if you can. and i do believe, fundamentally, the president is a patriot and is well-intended on making america safer. but we have cancer doctors, we have titans of industry, i have all sorts of foreign students that are in school or parents of very legitimate people who have already had green card cases approved and they're in limbo and don't have their documents that now have to make decisions
7:06 pm
between staying put or going. we have a journalist that we're consulting with, on this delicacy, god forbid he's ever put on a plane or not returned properly to the united states. the stakes are very high. the power of congress is really what rules the roost when it comes to immigration. and unfortunately, the president, at this point, has used the vacuum created by the deafening silence in washington to do something, but i don't think he's done it properly. purely a breach of our constitution. you're not allowed under the 1965 rendition of the 1952 act to discriminate-based on national orange. and that's what the president did here. albeit, well intended, saudi arabia, indonesia, and a lot of other nations have been left out of the loop. nobody has created any immediate or irreparable harm to us that we couldn't have had a more conceived and a better rolled out program. >> vice president mike pence has
7:07 pm
said that the white house is planning to use all legal measures to get the ban back in place. obviously, the president has a lot of leeway with executive orders, especially when it comes to something like national security. what else can we expect them to do, in any scenario. let's say that ultimately, it's decided that this ban is unconstitutional. what can we expect? >> remember, by the way, the hallmark case that happened in the obama administration -- >> in texas. >> daca ended up going to the courts and took months to be adjudicated. we can expect that the government will play this system in the district court, the circuit court, and even go up to the supreme court. but congress has not abandoned its responsibility on immigration. it has delegated certain authority to the president, but there are no declarations of war, there's no immediacy to this. and god knows we need a better
7:08 pm
vetting of some parts of our immigration system, but we fought pirates in the days of the 1700s, the alien sedition acts. we didn't lose the moral compass that we are to the world and stop taking immigrants, those huddled masses that appear by lady liberty. we learned during the era of the ha holocaust and learn every week that we have to take a better standard. it's 2017. we have to make sure we don't set ourselves up for the next civil rights movement, which is really a deflection of what we need to do. there is, in my opinion, a tedium when it comes to the war on terrorism. and we have to finish it, but we also have to embattle it properly. and by the law, and this is a president and the first lady, i can say, that prides themselve on great complice, o respect for the rule of law, and i believe, ultimately, we're going to get a better product because of our checks and balances. >> and certainly, that was put into question by that tweet, saying that judge robart is a
7:09 pm
so-called judge. i wish we had more time to discuss that. unfortunately, michael wilds, we are all out of time. straight ahead, we continue to follow our breaking news on the travel ban. plus, new comments from president trump about russian president vladimir putin. that's next on the "cnn newsroom." g per rollor mom" bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more "life" per roll. bounty, the quicker picker upper
7:10 pm
what twisted ankle?ask what muscle strain? advil makes pain a distant memory nothing works faster stronger or longer what pain? advil. "how to win at business." step one: suck on and point decisively with the arm of your glasses. it is no longer eyewear, it is your wand of business wizardry. abracadabra. you've just gone from invisible to invincible. step two: before your meeting, choose la quinta. the only hotel where you can redeem loyalty point for a free night-instantly so youan prepare to win at business. book now at lq.com
7:11 pm
remember when you said men are supeyeah...ivers? yeah, then how'd i get this... ...allstate safe driving bonus check? ...only allstate sends you a bonus check for every six months you're accident free. silence. it's good to be in, good hands. we'rebut maybe we've had it wrong all along. maybe our most extraordinary moments happen when we feel small. princess cruises, come back new.
7:12 pm
some startling words from president donald trump this weekend on russia and that country's president, vladimir putin. president trump not denying that putin may be a killer, and then adding something that's raising a lot of eyebrows, an implication that is certainly cryptic. he says there are a lot of killers. listen to this. >> do you respect putin? >> i do respect him. >> do you? why? >> well, i respect a lot of people, but that doesn't mean i'm going to get along with him. he's a leader of his country. i say it's better to get along with russia than not. will i get along with him? i have no idea. >> but he's a killer, though. putin's a killer? >> a lot of killers. we've got a lot of killers. what? you think our country's so innocent? >> let's get to jill dougherty, she's a cnn contributor who is l s.moscow bureau chief for seve jill, in the hours since that
7:13 pm
short clip was released, reaction from analysts, foreign policy experts that we've talked to, has been one of alarm. not just that president trump would double down on, you know, his claims of respect for vladimir putin, only a few days after the ambassador to the u.n., nikki haley, blasted him in front of the united nations, but now also the fact that he's suggesting that both countries have killers. are you surprised by this? >> i am shocked by it. i'm not surprised by it. because mr. putin -- mr. trump, president trump, said that during the campaign, back in 2015, in december, he had another interview at that point, it was with msnbc. and he said, our country does plenty of killing, too. so he has said this before. but he said it as a candidate, at that point. and now he's saying it as president of the united states. and it is extremely undermining of the united states and its position around the world to say
7:14 pm
that it essentially is a country of killers. this is something that you would actually hear from, let's say, russia, and some of russian propaganda, the media, et cetera, who would make that point. that the united states has no morality, that it goes around the world, killing people, and disrupting. but you don't expect that -- to hear that from the president of the united states. >> all right. another thing president trump said was that it's better to get along with russia than not. is it really that black and white? we either get along with russia or we don't? it seems like an oversimplification. >> well, it is an oversimplification. but this, again, is something that the president has said many, many times. i mean, that is essentially, boris, his mantra. yes, i respect president putin, boy, wouldn't it be nice if we got along together and we could fight terrorism together? i don't know how i'll actually
7:15 pm
ultimately get along with him, but boy, we should work to fight terrorism. we've heard this, for now like a year. but i think the question is, at this point, what exactly does that mean? if you're going to work with russia, let's have some specifics. where is the policy? and this is where we don't hear anything. in fact, you pointed out, you know, comments by nikki haley, who is the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, really laying into russia for the action and the fighting in ukraine, saying that sanctions are going to continue, as long as they occupy crimea. that's diametrically opposed to what president trump has been saying. so, where's the policy, specifically, what is he going to do? it's really, at this point, very, very confusing. >> yeah, and after her comments. the white house seemingly backed her up. so it's really a curious comment to make. jill dougherty in moscow, thank
7:16 pm
you so much. still to come, millions were affected by president trump's travel ban order. coming up, you'll meet a young iraqi boy separated from his parents as his life hangs in the balance. to those who know that the essence of integrity is a promise kept. ♪ if you've got the time welcome to the high life. ♪ we've got the beer ♪ miller beer
7:18 pm
i realize that ah, that $100k is notwell, a 103fortune. yeah, 103. well, let me ask you guys. how long did it take you two to save that? a long time. then it's a fortune. well, i'm sure you talk to people all the time who think $100k is just pocket change. right now we're just talking to you. i told you we had a fortune. yes, you did. getting closer to your investment goals starts with a conversation. schedule a complimentary goal planning session today.
7:19 pm
the justice department is challenging a ruling from a judge in washington, that put a temporary stop to president trump's travel ban. the white house wants the ban reinstated. trump's executive order effectively stopped people from traveling to the united states from seven muslim majority countries. let's turn now to cnn aviation analyst, mary schiavo. she's also a former inspector general at the u.s. department of transportation. mary, airlines that had been stopping travelers from boarding planes were told today to go ahead and allow those passengers to fly, but this back and forth has to be at the very least, stressful for airports, airlines, and travelers, right? >> absolutely. it can be very costly, as well, because the u.s. and many countries have programs and requirements in place that if the airlines don't flag a visa problem or a passport problem before they transport the
7:20 pm
passenger to the united states or to other countries, for example, australia, the airline can be fined for doing, transporting someone without the proper visas or a valid visa, and then the airline can be responsible for returning that person back to their last place from which they came. so, from whence they came. so it can be very frustrating, frightening, very frightening for the person involved. but also costly. but there are regulations that help protect the people while they're in transit, as well. at least in the united states. >> well, let's talk about that. because if the department of justice ends up overturning this j judge's order, we might see a repeat of what we saw a week ago again with travelers in limbo flying in the air as the travel ban takes effect again. if it takes effect before they take off, all u.s. carriers have the ability to enter them into
7:21 pm
the computer in advance, so the united states will know who's coming before the plane ever takes off, before they get here. so persons flying on u.s. carriers will actually have some assurances before the carrier actually boards them. of course, that doesn help if it happens while they're in the air. there are some foreign carriers, non-u.s. carriers who have refused to participate in this pre-clearance program, and so persons on those airlines, most of them are from the middle east, won't have this safety net of the airline checking in advance. but if you're in the air, let's say you're in the air and this travel ban goes into effect, when you land, there are u.s. regulations that say you have to be given food, water, comfortable place to rest. you will have to be -- you will have to leave the country. you have to go back. but then the airline is supposed to help you and get you out of the country. can they charge you for it? yes, they can. but there are regulations that govern your treatment while you're here. >> sure. now, let me ask you this. customs and border patrol, how quickly can they respond to a
7:22 pm
change in the law? we know that even as of late last night, when this freeze was put in place, the temporary restraining order was put in place, they went to work immediately, recertifying a lot of these visas that had been canceled. if they have to undo that, how quickly do you think they could? >> just as quickly. after september 11, 2001, we weren't prepared, we didn't have the computerized systems, we did not have the ability to check and track people that we do now. so they will have the ability to act very, very quickly. almost everything is comput computerized now. and they will be able to literally -- i hate to use an old-fashioned saying -- but they can turn on a dime. if they have to change the way they process or who's allowed and what visas are active, because of the computerized systems that we have now, all put in place after september 11th, they'll be able to do that very quickly. >> and what kind of concerns might airline executives have at
7:23 pm
this point about the potential for, as you mentioned earlier, a loss of profits here, if there's so much uncertainty around who can fly where? >> well, airlines are kind of caught in the middle on this one. that's why all of the u.s. carriers and most carriers around the world have on their websites and in their contracts of carriage. you don't get them with your ticket, your electronic ticket, but they're on the website and they govern -- it's a contract that goes along with your ticket. and all of the contracts of carriage say it is up to the passenger to check and double check the visas, make sure their visas are right. of course, they can't help it if they're in the air when it changes, but all the airlines try to put that on the passenger. but regardless of those contracts of carriage, many countries, ours included, find the airlines that they transport someone without the proper visa and they, you know, basically, they get sent to the united states or go to customs and immigration and they're not legally here, the airline can be fined $3,000, $5,000, or more in
7:24 pm
other countries. and then the airline, they have to be taken care of, until they can be put on the next flight back. >> all right, mary schiavo, we appreciate you turning on a dime to be with us late this saturday night. thanks so much. straight ahead, president trump vowing he will appeal -- he will win his appeal of the travel ban. next, our political panel weighs in. stay with us. you're live in the "cnn newsroom." for lower back pain sufferers, the search for relief often leads... here... here... or here. today, there's another option. drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity, and helps you get back to things like this... this... or this. and back to being yourself. aleve direct therapy. find yours in the pain relief aisle.
7:25 pm
just like the people every business is different. but every one of those businesses will need legal help as they age and grow. whether it be with customer contracts, agreements to lease a space or protecting your work. legalzoom's network of attorneys can help you, every step of the way. so you can focus on what you do and we'll handle the legal stuff that comes up along the way. legalzoom. legal help is here. audi pilotless vehicles have conquered highways, mountains, and racetracks.
7:26 pm
7:28 pm
it is breaking news this hour on cnn. the president confident that he will prevail over a federal court order that temporarily put aiorts back to business asd usual, as if that travel ban he signed never happened. i want to get tara setmayer here, a cnn political commentator and a former aide to a congressman. and salena zito joining us again. tara, the words of president trump tonight, we will win, for the safety of our country, we will win. he's talking about that formal appeal from the department of justice, to try to get that seven-nation travel ban reinstated. but considering all these protests around the world, all the political capital that he's using to trying to get this thing reinstated, would it ultimately be a win for him? >> well, i think, politically,
7:29 pm
this has been really problematic for him. and it could have been an easy win, if they had implemented nit a way that actually included all of the stakeholders involved, the other cabinet agencies, like dhs and defense and even the state department, when they decided to put this together. i think most reasonable people in the united states, if this had been explained in a way that made sense to most people, would have agreed that the travel ban was necessary because of reasons concerning the program being broken, concerns that even the obama administration identified. these are seven countries that the obama administration identified. so, there wasn't this big h hubabaloo about this during the bush administration, but because the way he pushed this through, adding in aspects of the executive order like green cards and things like that, without the input of the dhs secretary
7:30 pm
or the secretary of state and others, it has created a mess. and now you have the president of the united states questioning the credibility of a judge who is looking at this order and saying that they found it to be unlawful. so, i think that what could have been a positive win for president trump is now turning into an us versus them battle, a potential crisis between the executive and judiciary branch now, that was completely unnecessary and self-inflicted by trump himself. >> salena, what tara just said has been echoed by several republican lawmakers who have said that the rollout of this executive order was at the very least, sloppy. and perhaps ineffective. what's your take on how they approach this moving forward? >> well, going forward win mean, i think the best thing that he should do -- or should have done, from the onset, was get out there and say, look, i know i said a lot of harsh things
7:31 pm
during the campaign. it was a campaign cycle. some of those things were regrettable. and going forward, i'm putting this pause in place, because i believe that it is important to keep the american people, the american treasure, safe. here are the reasons why we use these seven countries. they were a continuation of the obama administration. this is really nothing new in that aspect. and it is a pause. let me reinforce that. and then we'll see what we can do to make you safer, so that we don't open ourselves and make ourselves vulnerable to people that want to do us harm. and there's still an opportunity to have that sort of conversation with the american people. right now, everyone's just sort of fighting against each other and no one's making any headway. and i think the american people, you know, trump supporters aren't happy and defensei because they feel as if they need to defend him, and the
7:32 pm
people that don't like him are out in the streets or a portion of them, protesting them, and, you know, we're just stuck at the 50-yard-line. we're not moving anywhere. >> tara, our new cnn poll that came out last night shows that a majority of americans disapprove of the travel ban. about 53% oppose the executive order, though, as salena rightly pointed out, a solid 47% of our country, 88% of republicans, approve of what the president is doing. in fact, he is doing what many politicians rarely do, which is keeping a campaign promise. how do you think republicans that are supportive of this view this legal battle that's now brewing? do they see it as just, you know, an actist judge trying to stand in the president's way? >> of course, they do. because that's the way the trump administration has frame d it. the judge that issued this order was a bush appointee. and it is out in the ninth circuit, which is known as one
7:33 pm
of the most liberal -- if not the most liberal circuit in the country. that narrative can be pushed, which is unfortunate, because as a policy, this actually does make sense, but because of the way donald trump himself has handled this, the words that he's used, he's been combative about this. all he had to do was give -- just like salena said, give some explanation and context as to why he thought this travel ban was necessary. and even why it originated in the bush -- in the obama administration. then people would have looked at this with a little bit more -- a little more rationally. unfortunately, now, you have so much emotion on both sides. you have the people in the trump camp that are dug in, that believe that they have to defend donald trump, no matter what he does. and you have the people on the left who feel as though everything donald trump does is an affront to democracy here in the united states and then you have the people in the middle
7:34 pm
going, what is going on here. it's difficult to sift through all of this noise, because of the way the administration has handled this themselves. so, unfortunately, mr. trump doesn't show any humility when it comes to these situations, and as yet to show that there have been -- i mean, they had to make a tweak with the green cards. that was a huge, huge mistake. i don't know why they didn't anticipate, when he signed that executive order, that there would be people on airplanes on their way over here, with approved visas. clearly, this wasn't thought through. they should have made exceptions for that, right away, so there could have been a smooth transition into that temporary travel ban. but they didn't do that. and the only way we get out of this is if the president himself shows leadership and some humility and elains this. perhaps that's what mike pence will do. maybe his other surrogates will do that, but donald trump has to stop tweeting and insulting judges and calling things ridiculous and being petulant about this. this is a serious issue.
7:35 pm
>> tara and salena, we are out of time. but thank you for sticking around with us late on this saturday night. thank you. >> anytime. >> ahead in the cnn news, you'll meet a young iraqi boy separated from his parents as his life hangs in the balance. the president's travel ban is bank accounting his family. and also up next, we head to the heart of trump country, beattyville, kentucky, where more than 80% of the residents voted for president trump. can the president win the war on poverty launched nearly 80 years ago not for from there. >> do you think most of america understands -- >> no. what you went through. >> i think most of america understands, and that's why the election went the way it did. my belly pain and constipation?
7:36 pm
i've heard it all. eat more fiber. flax seeds. yogurt. get moving. keep moving. i know! try laxatives. been there, done that. my chronic constipation keeps coming back. i know. tell me something i don't know. vo: linzess works differently from laxatives. linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. it can help relieve your belly pain, and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements that are easier to pass. do not give linzess to children under six and it should not be given to children six to seventeen. it may harm them. don't take linzess if you have a bowel blockage. get immediate help if you develop unusual or sere stomach pain, especially with bloody or black stools.
7:37 pm
the most common side effect is diarrhea sometimes severe. if it's severe stop taking linzess and call your doctor right away. other side effects include gas, stomach-area pain and swelling. talk to your doctor about managing your symptoms proactively with linzess. new girl, huh? yeah, i'm -- i couldn't help but notice you checking out my name your price tool. yeah, this bad boy gives you coverage options based on your budget. -oh -- -oh, not so fast, tadpole. you have to learn to swim first. claire, here's your name your price tool. -oh, thanks, flo. -mm-hmm. jamie, don't forget to clean the fridge when you're done. she seems nice. she seems nice. [ door closes ] she's actually pretty nice. oh. yeah. "how to win at business." step one: suck on and point decisively with the arm of your glasses. it is no longer eyewear, it is your wand of business wizardry. abracadabra.
7:38 pm
7:39 pm
one judge's ruling has the potential to affect millions around the world. as we wait to see how the legal fight over president trump's travel ban will unfold, we want to focus for a moment on a single family, trying to be a family in these difficult times. cnn's chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta, reports. >> they give you these little gas heaters to heat up. and if you don't unclog it and a fire breaks out, by the time they got him, the plastic melted and fell on his face and feet. >> reporter: it was dobermine's first birthday, iraq, january 4th, 2016. in an instant, the soft cartilage of his nose, his lips, and most of his face ravaged. the images are tough to see. >> you realize there's something different about him, and it's really sad, because these kids,
7:40 pm
they're scared of him. >> reporter: his name means wounded heart and his hurry is complicated. it's a story of being trapped. his family fleeing from isis to this refugee camp and now trapped in the united states, without his parents. you see, this woman, adlai, is to the his mother, she's not even a relative. she is simply a kind stranger. his parents, a world away, but we tracked them down in northern iraq. it's really hard, his father said, he's a little boy. he needs his parents. so what happened here? well, after the fire and burns, the british aid group, road to peace, arranged for he and his father to come to shriners hospital for children in boston. that was for the first of a series of operations to slowly release the contractions of his lower jaw and lip allowing him
7:41 pm
to take a bottle again. but with his wife about to give birth back in iraq, he couldn't stay. and he backed adelaide to care for his son. >> so at that point they said, please take care of him and we'll be back. >> he said, we'll be back in four to six weeks, at the most, because they weren't sure of the exact due date for his wife. six weeks go by, then a month, two months, now we're at three months. >> reporter: when his little brother was born, the day after the election, his parents, grateful that the united states had provided medical care, decided to name their newborn son, trump. that's right, trump mosun. we want to show our appreciation to america for what they're doing for our boy, that's why we named him trump. then, despite being initially approved, early in january, their visas were revoked. they were in iraq. two yearly dillabrine was in the
7:42 pm
united states. his father said they didn't give us visas because they thought we would go there and stay. we want to finish our son's treatment and then return home. cnn did reach out to the state department for comment and are told, quote, we are not able to discuss the details of any visa case. then things got even worse. >> i'm establishing new vetting measures to keep radical islamic terrorists out of the united states of america. >> reporter: president trump likely made it impossible that his namesake, along with mom and dad, will travel to the united states anytime soon. >> that's what we're afraid of, is they have to wait 90 days, and he doesn't have that. he needs his surgery as soon as possible. >> what's the sentiment or the emotion? are they angry? >> not really, just sad and hopeless. they don't know what to do.
7:43 pm
>> you think there'll been an exception made? >> we're praying for that. >> we are watching to see what happens next in ts story. dr. sanjay gupta reporting, thank you. dearborn, america, is sometimes referred to as the capital of arab america. it's opal to business owners who say they've been living the american dream. but now after donald trump's travel ban, some of them say they don't feel so welcome anymore. here's their message to the president. >> i'm part of a family that owns authentic yemeni restaurants. >> we own a bakery, middle eastern. it's been open for 30 years. >> we began in 1979. the founder was my father. he emigrated here from lebanon, due to the war, in 1976. and he came and began his own american dream. >> my family is from yemen. my father emigrated to the u.s.
7:44 pm
in 1973, i believe. my father moved here in 1995. >> we have about 200 employees, total. >> we have 10 to 15 employees. >> total of probably 20 to 25 in this location. >> many of our employees, what they do have in common, is that they're fleeing a difficult situation, whether it be lebanon, will it be iraq or syria. almost everyone here has found the american dream in dearborn and they've grown from that. >> we have a big community in dearborn. >> we're here to support our family, to make a better leaving. we're here to have our kids educated. we're here to get better chances in living, like anybody else. >> above all else, i would say that we feel misrepresented, at times. >> younis, since, you know, the ban, you know, mr. trump came up, it's pretty hard. i mean, people are very devastated and sad, shocked.
7:45 pm
>> people feel like they have almost a loss of security. and they feel misunderstood. >> it's even hard for us to explain to our kids. what are we going to tell them? that our president made ban against us? against our people? it's horrible. >> i'm an american citizen, but i would feel less welcome. people will look at you differently after that. he changes the point of view of arabs, everybody. and muslims around the world, he changed how people look at us. >> even business, everybody knows shiba is yemen. so it's like, okay, so you're considered one of the terrorists? you know, to be that person that's been targeted from, you know, the world leader, mr. trump. you know, it's not easy. >> he should come to dearborn and have a meal. that's all i can tell him. >> president trump's promise to make america great again is a phrase that brought hope to many economically struggling corners of america.
7:46 pm
one such place is beattyville, kentucky. many in that town of about 1,200 have been without hope, not just for a couple of years, but for generations. now the president's promise to bring back american jobs is giving them a reason to look up. cnn's poppy harlow went to beattyville to hear directly from the men and women who think trump is their best chance for better days ahead. >> i'm very hopeful that the jobs will come back because of trump. >> i guess i'm most hopeful for opportunity and job growth. >> i'm hopeful that we will have jobs in kentucky. >> just to keep our young people here. give them a future. >> we have fresh meat in the white house. >> reporter: it's hard to find more natural beauty than the rolling hills surrounding beattyville, kentucky. >> i just love this area. >> it's beautiful here. >> to say folks here are proud of their town is an understatement. and they're no fan of the recent
7:47 pm
headlines about it. this is beattyville, kentucky, one of the poorest, predominantly white towns in the country. more than half of the people here live in poverty and rely on food stamps. less than a hundred miles from here is where president lyndon johnson declared the war on poverty, just over 50 years ago. >> this administration, today, here and now, declares unconditional war on poverty in america. >> but for decades, people here are struggled, more and more as their factories have shuttered and their coal mines have closed. now, though, there is a sense of hope that you can feel across this town, something many here have not felt for a long time. >> a lot of people are happy. i mean, some even ecstatic that we now can say president trump.
7:48 pm
>> president trump won more than 80% of the vote here. everybody was excited. someone told me this morning in eastern kentucky that the coal trucks are already out and about. >> reporter: donna has been running this gas station for about a decade and knows just about everyone in town. do you feel hopeful after the election? >> absolutely. he's already done more in a week than obama did in eight years. >> reporter: president trump? >> for the american people. >> reporter: i'm fascinated by what gives people so much hope. what do you think it is? >> the change. the fact that they want -- he wants -- i believe he wants to take care of us, the little people. and he understands us better. i think he's going to quit giving money to all these other countries and take care of america. >> reporter: but more melissa alan, hope is hard to find. >> do you make enough to get by? >> not without working seven days a week, no. i've lived here my entire life.
7:49 pm
i've lived in poverty my entire life. so, there's really no hope. >> you're young, melissa. >> i know. >> none? >> every week, you got to rob peter to pay paul. i've had my electric shut off, i've had my water shut off. >> do you get a sense that people here are more hopeful now because of the new president? >> it seems like people are, but it's kind of almost like wishing on lost hope. because it's been this way for so long. >> reporter: her livelihood crumbled when one of the town's biggest employers shuttered six years ago. >> i worked at lion apparel. we had a sewing factory. >> the big factory? >> yeah. >> as a matter of fact, i worked there for almost ten years. >> were you making a pretty good income there? >> i done decent there.
7:50 pm
one of the only decent-paying jobs left. and i was actually the highest paid employee on the sewing floor. >> wow. >> yeah. >> but when that factory shuttered -- >> i did too. i mean, honestly. >> now taking ago. >> now taking care of her 5-year-old son means working up to 60 hours a week and still relying on $100 of food stamps each month. >> i don't understand why minimum wage here can't be raised. i don't get that. >> reporter: more than 43 million americans are living at or below the poverty line. in beattyville the economic decline didn't come quickly. it's been a slow painful drip of job losses for decades. >> reporter: so what happened? >> our industry went away. we were slow to realize that. we were the number one oil producing county east of the mississippi at one time. >> reporter: plenty of money here at one time. >> at one time. the gem of eastern kentucky. i don't blame either party. i blame the system that creates
7:51 pm
the situation where everybody says everything's wonderful and it's not. >> reporter: chuck runs the local paper here. >> the hope seems palable. >> it is. simply because the back here for the last fee generations we've been getting lots of promises and there's been a lot of money thrown at the issues. >> reporter: help me understand why so much hope is being placed in president trump. >> his bluntness which is very disquieting to people is refreshing. >> reporter: but bluntness may be refreshing it doesn't always equal jobs. >> it does not all equal jobs but he out and out says i'm going to give you jobs. there's december operation back he here. >> reporter: suns loots isn't
7:52 pm
convinced president trump will bring beattyville what it needs. >> he makes a lot of plomss. he said a lot of things that sound great to some people who may not have as much insight into it as they could have or they should have. >> reporter: her concern, cut backs in social programs here. >> those are resources that we need more of. we don't need to lose what we have. >> i don't think think that trump has a clue about the little man. when you're born wealthy and everything's been handed to you and you have everything that's in your world that's gold plated, come to our world. come and see how we live. >> reporter: regardless of party, one constant you hear, something must be done. so beattyville doesn't lose the next generation. >> reporter: we're losing our
7:53 pm
young people. they have to leave after graduating college. we need good paying jobs to stay here. this is our american dream. just to raise my family in a safe environment in a small town and i think that's what a lot of people here want. there's not opportunity for my children here, no. and that's what i worry about. >> when jobs leave, it's just difficult to bring them back in with the infrastructure we have. roads, internet connections. >> reporter: how mucho you trust donald trump? >> i don't know yet. i mean really. i have faith that he's going to work -- he's going to work for the people. i have faith in that. >> reporter: married 22 years and parents to three daughters, harold and lee an dra share a modest home in the hills with seven dogs and a lot of love all around. >> we were the ones that fell in
7:54 pm
the crack, you know. in our world you don't pay your bills this week. you pay a bill. you learn to live humably. >> she is an artist. he's a mason. he drives two hours each way to and from work because the best paying job close to home only paid $11 an hour. do you think most of america understands what -- what you live through? >> i think most of america is where we are and that's why the election went the way it is. >> reporter: can donald trump help you? >> if he brings jobs in here, the prison in here is shut down. they opened it back up, look how many people they laid off and had to let go. a lot of jobs people lost right there. >> reporter: what's trump's promise to you? what can he do for you? >> any change from what we've had, and you know what? i understand that obama has done great for some people and i'll
7:55 pm
give him that. it didn't help us. it didn't help us at all. >> reporter: do you feel forgotten? >> sure, sure. i don't -- i don't know why my kids have to work two jobs each. we don't want free college. we don't want everything free. we want to keep our sense of pride that we take care of ourself. >> reporter: one day they'd like their american dream and their first vacation in a decade. >> grand caon. he has said that since we've been married. we will go to the grand canyon one day. >> reporter: the day we landed the stock market hit a record high but dow 20,000 doesn't help many folks here. >> for the majority of the people here, the stock market is something interesting to look at. >> reporter: it's factories like this one where melissa and hundreds more made a decent living that president trump has promised to resurrect.
7:56 pm
it's a promise so many people are holding on to tightly what gets you buy every day? >> hayden. >> reporter: do you believe he can have a different life? >> i hope he does. i don't want him to struggle like i do. you have to feel for those folks. i'll be back tomorrow afternoon at 2:00 p.m. eastern. we hope you will join us the legal fight over president trump's travel ban and protests across the country. continuing coverage over breaking news tonight. again, thank you for joining us and have a good night. so he built secret hiding places where nothing could get in. the boy didn't like looking people in the eye. it made him feel uncomfortable. one day, he found out he had something called autism. his family got him help.
7:57 pm
7:59 pm
i am a first responder tor and i'emergencies 24 hours a day, everyday of the year. my children and my family are on my mind when i'm working all the time. my neighbors are here, my friends and family live here, so it's important for me to respond as quickly as possible and get the power back on. it's an amazing feeling turning those lights back on. be informed about outages in your area. sign up for outage alerts at pge.com/outagealerts. together, we're building a better california.
8:00 pm
>> hello and welcome to our viewers in the united states and indeed all around the world. >> it is 11:00 p.m. on the u.s. east coast. 4:00 a.m. in london. cnn "newsroom" live from atlanta starts right now. >> we start this hour with the breaking news in the u.s. the justice department appealing a federal judge's decision suspending president trump's travel ban order. >> the move comes as many airlines have begun to allow people from the blocked countries with refugees with valid v
89 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on
![](http://athena.archive.org/0.gif?kind=track_js&track_js_case=control&cache_bust=1686127601)