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employees even though she couldn't afford it, i think that showed how out of touch the democratic party has become and why they're no longer trustwort trustworthy. >> one-word answer. did your boss win? >> bernie sanders won, clearly. ted cruise wants to deny the woman who had m. s. from her medicaid. he wants to make sure that if you get insurance companies don't have to take you on. it's terrible. >> the debate is so far from over. thank you so much. thanks for joining us at this hour. "inside politics" starts right now. thanks, guys. had he low, and welcoming to "inside politics." i'm dana bash. john king is off today. president trump says today is a sad day for america, but not because of any court ruling affecting his attempts to ban travel from seven muslim countries. the president is irked because the executive action he put out there is being second guessed at all. the ninth circuit court of appeals, which heard arguments last night, hasn't ruled on
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anything yet, but the for and against back and forth that we heard, president trump heard last night, did not make him happy, and today he vented at a gathering of police chiefs and sheriffs here in washington. >> i think it's a sad day. i think our security is at risk today. it will be at risk until such time as we are entitled and get what we are entitled to. we need security in our country. we have to allow you folks to do your job. you are great people. great men and women. we have to allow you to do your job. we have to give you the weapons that you need, and this is a weapon that you need. they're trying to take it away from you maybe because of politics. >> now, president trump read the statute that gives presidents broad authority to regulate entry into the country, and to him it's open and shut. >> i understand things.
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i comprehend very well. okay? better than, i think, almost anybody, and i want to tell you, i listened to a bunch of stuff last night on television that was disgraceful. it was disgraceful. because what i just read to you is what we have, and it just can't be written any plainer or better. you can be a lawyer or you don't have to be a lawyer. if you are a good student in high school or a bad student in high school, you can understand this. it's really incredible to me that we have a court case that's going on so long. >> joining me now, four people who were very good students in high school, glen thrush of the "new york times." cnn's sarah murray, margaret of bloomberg politics and dominco. as a candidate donald trump saw
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the world as a scary place. now that he is president, he sees it as even scarscarier. >> we will work with you on the frontlines to keep america safe from terrorism, which is what i began this with. terrorism. a tremendous threat far greater than people in our country understand. believe me. i have learned a lot in the last two weeks, and terrorism is a far greater threat than the people of our country understand. >> all of you have spent a lot of time, as we all have, covering donald trump on the campaign trail, and now as president, sarah, did anything he said today surprise you. >> i don't think it was a surprise. i think it's interesting to see how he seems to be sort of using a little bit of fear mongering to try to somehow move this
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through the court, which i don't think is necessarily going to sway judges. >> it's a travel pause assist they call it or refugee ban. >> fear mongering and pressure. some people might say it goes beyond that, and to bullying. i want to play one of a bit of the president's comments from this morning. >> i don't ever want to call a court biassed, so i won't call it biassed, and we haven't had a decision yet. >> it would be so great for our
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justice system if they would be able to read a statement and do what's right. >> it's like queens jazz. here's a ballad tempo today. it was a very rumanative kind of thing. i want to expand on what sarah said. i don't think this is just about the court case. he has had a stumbling first two weeks. the roll-out of his executive order on the immigration ban was zas russ and poorly implemented and -- he barely got his education secretary by. we are hearing all kinds of stories about internal turmoil in the white house. i think i wouldn't quite call it fear mongering, but this very dark vision of the country, this isn't just about a court case. this is what he, i think, is going to in order to centralize his presidency and have people view them as being more presidential. >> glen would recognize queens jazz. i'm part of the ban too. i would just say that there have
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been lots of instances, though, when presidents have criticized the court. they don't use this kind of language that donald trump does if we want to talk about his meter and tone and all that, but, you know, president obama at the state of the union, which invoked, you know, justice alledo to shake his head and say no. you could go back to 2008, george w. bush on gitmo. 1974. nixon on the watergate tapes that he didn't want to release. they don't usually do it in that kind of tone or call judges so-called, and president obama was pretty self-conscious about it, talking about all due deference to the separation of power.
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>> for reading a 1986 letter written by coretta scott king opposing jeff sessions, who was nominated at the time for federal judgeship. now, of course, he is the president's nominee for attorney general, and as we have it right now, senior congressional reporter manu raju has elizabeth warren next to him right now, as a special guest. manu, take it away. >> last night, as you were carrying forward with your criticism of senator sessions, you were warned multiple times by the presiding officers, by senators that this could actually violate the rules of deck decorum in the senate. you pressed on anyway. why did you do that knowing it could violate the rules of decorum? >> i went to the floor to debate whether jeff sessions should be the attorney general of the united states. what i did was i quoted from ted kennedy's statement, senator ted
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kennedy's statement, in the judiciary committee from back in 1986 when senator sessions was being considered to be a federal judge. senator sessions, now senator sessions back then was a u.s. attorney who had brought a prosecution against civil rights workers for helping elderly black citizens vote, so i read senator kennedy's statement. i thought that was entirely fair game in the united states senate, and i was warned -- i thought i don't see it, but all right. then i turned to read coretta scott king's letter. as you know, she's the widow of dr. martin luther king, and she wrote about senator -- then attorney general sessions, u.s. attorney sessions. she wrote about him, and i started reading her letter. she wrote, mr. sessions has used the awesome power of his office
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to chill the free exercise of the vote by black citizens. mitch mcconnell said that i was out of line and shut me up. >> if you knew it was potentially a violation when they warned you, why not just move on? >> i was moving on. i was moving on to talk about the facts of what jeff sessions had done when he prosecuted civil rights workers who were trying to help black citizens vote, and i thought quoting coretta scott king's letter to the united states senate about that was absolutely relevant. it is a moving letter. it is a powerful letter, and it's a letter that tells us not only about our history generally, but specifically about jeff sessions. >> senator, you have served with senator sessions for several years. do you really believe what that letter says that she -- that he could unfairly intimidate and
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disenfranchise elderly black voters? >> yes. i believe the facts show that is exactly what he did. in fact -- >> you think he would do that as attorney general? >> let me read to you what she says he did. >> do you think he would do that as attorney general? >> she says he accomplished -- mr. sessions accomplished with a federal prosecution what the local sheriff's accomplished 20 years ago with clubs and cattle prods. she also talks about in here how many elderly blacks were visited multiple times by the fbi who then hauled them over 180 miles by bus to a grand jury in mobile when they could more easily have testified at a grand jury 20 miles away in selma. those are actions. those are facts. from that the conclusion that coretta scott king drew was based on his record. i believe his confirmation would have a devastating affect, not only on the judicial system in
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alabama, but also on the progress we have made everywhere. toward fulfilling my husband's dream that he envisioned more than 20 years ago. >> twha do you think about the fact that today senate democrats read from that letter and submitted it for the record. they were not -- republicans did not try to cite that rule of decorum? what is your reaction to that? >> i have no idea what the republicans are up to. you should have the republicans about this. i will say, i hope everyone reads coretta scott king's letter. when i was silenced, i went outside and read it on a live feed and posted it on facebook, i tweeted it. i want everyone to read this letter, including the republican senators who will be voting on his nomination tonight.
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>> is this kind of rhetoric what voters are asking for right now, to fight donald trump tooth and nail? >> i don't think voters are asking us to ignore facts. i don't think voters are asking us to say, you know, we're just going to ignore what this man did to black citizens because it's not only the black citizens. the speech also talked about what he has done with immigrants, with women. the real question for an attorney general of the united states is whether or not he can be trusted in the hours when you can't review what he does? can he be trusted to do two things to stand up strongly on behalf of everyone, not just those he agrees with, but everyone and, secondly, does he have the intestinal forditude to stand up to the president of the united states when the president issues an illegal and unconstitutional order? those are the jobs of the
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attorney general of the united states. what coretta scott king said is directly relevant to the first of those. >> what do you say to critics that think you are doing this to help position yourself for a possible run in 2020? >> i say i'm doing my job. it is my constitutional responsibility to debate jeff sessions as attorney general of the united states. >> that's something, though, you are open to right now, thinking about -- >> i am open to doing my job, and that is to debate whether or not jeff sessions should be attorney general of the united states, and that's why i wanted the opportunity to read coretta scott king's letter. it is a powerful letter. i urge everyone to go and read it. >> did republicans give you guys a political gift here? this is something that you probably would not be talking about today had they not invoked this rule. >> i would be talking about it. i talk about it as much as i can. it is a powerful and moving letter, and it speaks to a moment in history in the 1960s, a moment in history in the 1980s
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and a moment in history right now in 2017. >> and some of the democrats are also trying to raise money off of this. are you okay with that? doing this. how much money have you raised for your campaign? >> heavens, i have no idea. this is about trying to get people to read coretta scott king's letter. i really believe if all of my republican colleagues would read the letter, there would be some who would say i don't want to stand with him. >> are you okay with any of donald trump's cabinet nominees right now? i know you voted for ben carson. why did you vote for him? why is he different than, say, jeff sessions? >> the secretary of defense, i supported the secretary of defense. i think that general mattis working hard, and i hope is going to be a strong and independent voice, but let's be clear. the kind of people donald trump is sending our way, i mean, you -- it's like a bad movie.
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right? he is sending us a secretary of education who doesn't believe in public education. he is sending us an attorney general who prosecuted civil rights workers for trying to help black citizens vote. >> what about andy pos ner? are you going to fight him? >> you bet. a secretary of labor nominee whose whole profit model was how to squeeze the lowest wage workers in america, how to get them to work off the clock. committed labor violations. it's one after another. secretary of treasury. >> you were okay with ben carson? >> there are important, important, important votes coming up, and i think we got to be in there ready to fight. donald trump has the power to nominate. our power is the power to advise and consent. ultimately, if these people are okay with the republicans, look, i get it. we may not have the votes to stop them, but we sure as heck
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need to make it clear to the republicans and to the american people exactly who donald trump is putting in charge of our government. >> senator -- >> that's what this is about. >> i know you have a busy schedule. thank you so much for talking with us. dana, back to you. >> thanks, manu. senator, before you go, i believe that you can hear me, i just -- >> senator, one question from dana here. >> senator, if you could just hear me. i want to read to you one thing just to follow-up on what manu just said, that your colleague senator sanders just tweeted. he said, "when i read the same letter as senator warren, no one prevented me from speaking. senator mcconnell owes senator warren an apology. _#let liz speak." do you agree with him? >> i think that this is up to senator mcconnell. he is the one who shut me up, and i am not allowed to speak on the floor of the united states senate until after the vote on jeff sessions. ultimately, what this should all be about is trying to get everybody and i mean everybody, to read coretta scott king's
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letter. it is a powerful letter. i posted it on facebook. i have tweeted it. get out there and read the letter. it's not just people all across this country. it's republicans right here in the united states senate. read that letter before the vote on jeff sessions. >> senator, before i let you go, just one final question. i amle told that while -- after you were reprimanded at first, some of your colleagues quietly came to you and asked you to retract your words, to try to sort of remedy the fact that you were told that you broke rule 19. you talked ill of a colleague. you said, no, i want to go back out there and i want to keep doing that. is that true? >> no. >> if so, why did you do that? >> i didn't. i was giving my speech, and nobody spoke to me while i was giving my speech. mitch mcconnell then shut me down. i appealed the ruling of the chair. that is a vote.
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we went to a vote. that's what happened. >> okay. all right. senator warren, thank you so much. i appreciate your time. >> you bet. take care. >> thank you. you too. >> a lot to digest here. where do we even start with this? >> margaret, you go. i think as we sort of have this conversation, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what she is trying to do because she said it about 100 times. read the letter. read the letter. she is trying to use her fame, the moment and so forth, says to highlight something that wouldn't have gotten very much attention. senator sessions is almost surely going to be confirmed, and that is the letter from coretta scott king, which is quite critical of jeff sessions.
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>> the area would be sort of repug nant or the most controversial or unappealing to both their base, but kind of the middle of america. in order to elevate and hammer home so they could at least diminish the appeal of these folks if they are to become confirmed. >> the other part of the strategy is the jockeying for power and until there's a hedge of the dnc, until there is any clear pecking order for the next batch of presidential candidates, all of this jockeying is going to play out. what is the most successful path for the democrats? is it to elevate people like manchin. is it to elevate elizabeth warren? this is the fight that's also playing out. >> you cannot underestimate the hunger, the passion, the need by so many people on the liberal base and now it is embodied in elizabeth warren and has been with this moment heard that they feel frustrated and they feel the democrats aren't doing enough to try to protest the
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republicans in congress and more importantly, donald trump. >> i mean, unquestionably. this is where all of it stems from. the liberal base of the democratic party being outraged that they can't slow down or stop any of these nominees. betsy devos was the best potential possibility for democrats to be able to derail one of these nominees. they weren't able to do it, weren't able to get one more senator. you know, in some seven hours or so, jeff sessions is going to be confirmed as the attorney general. democrats blew up the filibuster for anything below supreme court or legislation back in 2013, and that's come back to bite them now. >> this is party building. you know, we -- the democratic party had a real enthusiasm problem with hillary clinton at the head of the ticket. what we have here is an example of a woman -- you show the bernie sanders tweet. he wasn't shut up. ted cruise wasn't shut up when he had -- >> when he called mcconnell a liar. >> on the senate floor. what you have here is a woman reading a letter by a black
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woman who was married to the most tainted civil rights leertd leader in history being shut up on the floor of the united states senate by a white male from the south. if that doesn't get the democratic base riled, i don't know what would. >> yet, the fact that she is a woman -- i was actually talking to her t our colleague ted barrett about this, and i actually agree. it's almost secondary to a fact that she is a liberal icon, and this is about, you know, more about the liberalism. i want to ask you about the opposite conspiracy theory or strategy conspiracy theory. >> why not? >> it's the trump years. right? the question is whether or not you think that republicans -- i mean, obviously, they couldn't convince elizabeth warren to read that letter, but once they say this coming, they realized, oh, elevating a liberal who might want to run for president in 2020 might not be the worst thing for republicans. >> well, yeah. i think that is certainly true.
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because it's baffling as to why you would want to pick this fight. on the senate floor. i mean, if you are mitch mcconnell, you basically know that jeff sessions is going to get confirmed anyway. there might be some uncomfortable moments on the senate floor, but otherwise, you're going to get what you want. they're jockeying power and dynamics are going on. i do think it's going to continue. there is no clear head to the democratic party right now, and it's funny to kind of watch them in this same position that republicans were in in the obama years. the base doesn't just want to protest. they want to be able to stop these things from happening, and there's really not anything that these senators can do to prevent republicans from moving these folks forward. >> this discussion is about the politics of it. there's also a question of comedy. also the nature of the discussion and the dialogue here in washington. >> there is. it's an establishment question,
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isn't it? >> the idea that she is saying what she's saying on the senate floor and she's barred from saying that because that is the senate rule in order to prevent nastyness on the senate floor, and, yet, we have a president who goes after other people, other politicians with regulator. let me just give you one example. from january 29th talking about john mccain and lindsey graham. you can put it up. the joint statement of our former presidential candidates john mccain and lindsey graham is wrong. they're sadly weak on immigration. the two senators should focus their energies on isis, illegal immigration rather than trying to start would war iii, and then talking about democrats. nancy pelosi in fake tears, and chuck schumer held a rally, and that did not work. a mess just like the democratic party. if he were on the senate floor saying that, he would have an elizabeth warren problem. right? >> absolutely. the fact of the matter is when
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everyone is talking about rule 19, number two, the -- the -- >> sorry. you lost me. >> you lost me at number two. >> number three. state of the union -- >> this was put in place for all the originalists out there because of a fight that broke out on the senate floor. not because somebody was trying to oppose somebody's confirmation. >> like an actual fight. >> actual fist fight between two people who were friends, and there was a whole thing about philippines and the treaty that one signed on to, and he thought he was taken over by the other party, and they were mad at each other, and they got into a fist fight. elizabeth warren wasn't trying to fight anybody. this is a difference but also republicans wanting to have elizabeth warren not talk about this stuff, and the thing is they should know that she can command as big a microphone as she wants, and maybe they do. i mean, rick santorum said it on cnn and said, hey, why not? >> exactly. look what she did. i mean, it was like pinprick precision that she went about
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this strategy after it happened. she went out. she did live stream. she just said it. she went on facebook. she got the hash tag. a lot could happen organically, but she coaxed it along. >> i think mitch mcconnell did it because he didn't like to be userped in his own chamber. i think a lot of this stuff gets down to the personal stuff that we assumed was going to go out the window when harry reed left. >> i think the idea in the senate is maybe dying. maybe this is just the new washington. we've seen obviously the house move in that direction. we've seen congress move more broadly in this direction with people not spending as much time on washington and certainly not spending as much time fraternizing with each other. >> that was the perfect tease for the next segment, which is there some comedy or at least
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the senators stand on polar opposites and each vigorously defended his point of view. sanders, pushing to fix and even expand obama care, and senator cruz vowing that republicans won't break their promise to repeal it. now, republicans have lots and lots of ideas about replacement, but they don't appear to be coalessing around one legislative plan yet to make that happen despite president trump's promises on the campaign trail to do it on day one. he said on sun every, well, replacement may not happen until next year. it was really fun. i have to say just point of personal privilege here, i'm kind of on a high, a dorky high, because it was fun to be part of a long discussion on policy, and on that note i want to play one exchange that the senators had last night that really i thought was illustrative. take a listen. >>. >> she has access, but she
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wouldn't have enough money. you have access right now. go out and get a really great health insurance program. oh, you can't do it because you can't afford it. all right. that's what he is saying. access to what? you want to buy one of donald trump's mansions? you have access to do that as well. oh, you can't afford $5 million for a house? sorry. access doesn't mean a damn thing. what it means is whether people can afford it, can get the health care that they need. >> they can't under obama care. >> never mind the health care system being incredibly complicated, especially now that you have an entitlement that has to be unwound if you are a republican and has to be done gently, but also the fact that democrats for the most part -- not democratic shoesocialists, for the most part they believe it should be a right, and republicans believe if it's a right, that just means you should have access, and it shouldn't be mandated, and that has been the age-old problem that has made this so hard,
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right? >> it also makes it really hard for republicans to move forward on this because while obama care does have a lot of issues and, you know, a lot of americans have had issues with it, the hardest thing to do politically in washington is to take aaway a been if nefit that you are gett from the government. it can be political suicide. for republicans, they have taken in the notion that you can't cut people off health care without knowing what's next, what their options are, what their potential access points are, but even then, it is essentially impossible to envision any republican plan that will provide coverage for as many people as obama care provides coverage for, and there's just no easy way out of that box. >> glen, i get the sense -- obviously we know that republicans on the hill are understanding that more and more, and there's a very big tension between the promise and the reality, but do you get the sense that that is becoming more apparent to president trump and his aides?
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>> oh, i think it was an interesting moment in the briefing room yesterday. there are many interesting moments in the briefing room. when sean spicer was asked about the president's comments about pushing this back to 2018, he said something -- i'm paraphrasing here -- that we're much more concerned with results than we are with the process. essentially what he was saying is congress, you take care of this, and i will stand off to the side and figure out what it is that i like, what it is that is preferable, what it is that's polling well that week, and that is exactly the opposite of the process that we saw when this thing was passed, when rahm emanuel was driving the process. i thought it was an interesting illustration. not only of how aca is going to play out, but how the real government -- look, this flurry of executive orders and stuff, everyone who covers washington knows that that's the low hanging fruit. it's interesting to see that the white house will step back and let congress do it. skproo step back, and he can step back as much as he wants, but this is called obama care.
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wh whatever comes next will be trump care, whether he likes it or not. >> you can see it across the board. whether it is terrorism and homeland security policy or whether it's the obama care debate, you know, if there's a terror attack, it's the judge's fault, and if this repeal goes wrong, it's going to be congress's fault. this is very complicated stuff because what president obama managed to do for all of the problems that obama care has had or the affordable care act has had is to do this fair dime shift where it is not just medicare and medicaid that is considered rights of americans. it is essentially health care. it's health care through the private sector. that was the deal with the republicans to get it done. now that is the american expectation, and so the box that the republicans and president trump are in now is how to take away the kind of stink of this that the public doesn't like while keeping all the benefits, which are very expensive.
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>> the market doesn't work that way. while giving people tax credit. >> the market is going to get rattled. i was communicating with a senior republican on capitol hill yesterday after the debate saying it's hard, but we're going to get it done. you're going to be surprised. it's going to happen. have you seen any evidence of that? >> in fact, i think that it's -- >> that i haven't seen. >> it's gone the opposite direction. you saw senator corker start to talk about how there haven't been any serious discussions about a replacement bill. you still have paul ryan saying the speaker of the house saying that we will legislate this bill within the year, but you heard donald trump move away from that language talking about how we're a couple of weeks away. he is putting the final strokes on his plan, and then saying, well, it will be dealt with in 2017. >> which beet can be true. they can legislate this year and not make it go into effect until later, but -- >> what's the if? what's the if? >> it's really hard it decipher here because there aren't a lot of plans that are specific that are making their way to the final, you know, place here
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within these committees. you know, the fact is when you step back from this, government intervention on almost anything is the bright line dividing line in this country on politics, on almost everything. i mean, the health care makes up 17% of the u.s. economy. it's a big reason why those town halls in in 2009 and 2010 became such a big deal, and it's why republicans are recognizing now it's really easy to be against something that's really difficult and complicated to implement. it's really hard to be driving the train. especially when republicans used to be the party of management and that's not what they've been under president obama. >> and there's going to be a whole new series of town halls when they go home for break. president's week, which is a week after next, but we'll save that for another day. up next, the fight over fake news has the president at odds with one of his top advisors. a must see interview and what it really means. stay tuned. ♪
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the news media is in tatters. the core of the problem? a president who attacks media when they report things he doesn't like instead of saying he disagrees or he is disappointed, he labels it fake news. yet, the president's senior advisor told jake tapper yesterday she doesn't share that sentiment. >> i don't think cnn is fake news. i think there are some reports in print, in radio, on television, that are not well-researched and sometimes based on falsehoods. all the -- i can't even tell you. think about how small our staff was and how small our budget was for a presidential campaign. >> glen. >> we've all done the palace intrigue stories. it's because there's palace intrigue. right? >> it's a very small palace. >> it is a very small palace, so there's a lot of intrigue, and i think also the point that she made makes our point is that the
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campaign mentality of this very small group of people does not translate well to running a government, and i think we had a story this week that illustrated that. >> there is finally an understanding that they are going to need to staff up. i think kellyanne articulated it very, very well. you can't transfer this kind of homemade operation to running the greatest country in the world. >> you were there from pretty much day one on the trump campaign when it was this small band of brothers and maybe a sister, and now it's them trying to run a government. >> it's them trying to run a government, and it's not people who were there with donald trump on day one. it's not people who were there with donald trump on day 365. a lot of these people came in very late in the process, very late in his campaign, says and a lot of them sort of got plucked from different areas. they're not a cohesive group that knew each other really well, that worked together
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really well before, skps they all have different strengths, but instead of trying to sort of coaless and use those to put out legislative priorities to get things done, there is still a lot of jockeying to sort of increase your power center, and i do think that when we look at how they change going forward, that's a reflection of donald trump. donald trump does not like to be embarrassed. he does not like to look bad on television, and the travel ban was a very dark moment for that administration. >> that's something else that kelly ain conway had to do with jake tapper yesterday. this time about what donald trump said about the murder rate. i would say that in a speech, and everybody was surprised. the press doesn't report it.
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the murder rate is the highest it's been from 45 to 47 years. >> to say that there was a spike in murder rates in between 2014 and 2015 is true. to say -- to say we need to bring that down and we need to have law and order, all of that fine. he said it's the highest murder rate in 47 years, and the media doesn't report it. again, kellyanne, the media doesn't report it because it's a lie. >> i think he is relying upon data perhaps for a particular area. i don't know who gave him that data. >> okay. kellyanne conway, the fact that she decides to defend him because she believes in many of the causes that he believes in, but is the person who also agrees to go out and take the heat and take the questions on things that are, frankly, indefensible to try to come up with a way to answer it because that is, i guess, her job. >> i think this has a much
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different trajectory in month six than it does in week three. >> meaning? meaning you think that the president is going to change or that the people who are trying to defend are going to say you're on your own? >> right now you have the republicans in congress, the house and the senate, enough of the republican establishment, and enough of the american voters kind of saying let's see what happens, let's see how this happens. you can talk about poll numbers and the president is historically high, but still the infrastructure of republicans and a good chunk of america wants to give him time for these things to play out. it gets -- this gets much more difficult and complex after a number of kind of momentums going on for a long period of time. maybe congressional republicans will lose patience. i think when it comes to the relationship with the media, there is the rhetoric and the optics, which are the president beating up on the veracity of the media, and then there's the day to day of what's happening, and that's press briefings. roof access to have eyes on the president and his desire to be
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able to communicate through that media to get his messages out. very consistently. this is a little bit of the dichotomy in where the rubber meets the road. you know, the reason that the american public is hearing these messages about how terrible the american press is because the american press is broadcasting and carrying -- >> you mentioned the media and things -- other things that make republicans uncomfortable. there's something that the president did this morning that is probably going to make and already making republicans very uncomfortable, which is this happens when they get uncomfortable when he tweets about any business. this time he tweeted about is h -- his daughter's. my daughter ivanka has been treated so unfairly by nordstrom. she's always pushing me to do the right thing. terrible. i would hope that my father would defend anything that i did, but if my father was president and this was sort of on the border, i'm not so sure. >> well, i mean, maybe she's okay with it. we don't know. but what she -- what he does with these businesses and the
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impact that a lot of -- you know, businesses love certainty, and when they're want sure when they wake up in the morning if their business is suddenly going to be in the line of fire on donald trump's tweets, that makes for a problematic situation if you are somebody who is, you know, concerned about that business. you know, the nordstrom situation had to do with the fact that because people were boycotting nordstrom, fewer people were buying the brand. they wound up discontinuing the line. >> basic business, which donald trump should understand. >> they were slashing prices 40%. in addition to that, this lawsuit that milana trump filed, they argue in there that she's losing potentially $150 million because she has gained this new prominent position where she could have made money off of, you know, accessories or jewelry or makeup lines because of allegations that were made by a newspaper. you know, these things all do continue to raise the conflict of interest. >> no question.
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undermining the press when they're putting out just straight facts is one way that you keep your message out there. >> okay. want to put this on hold because i'm dying to know what's in each of your notebooks, some of the best in the business here. up next, that's what is going to happen. these reporters are going to empty their notebooks, including one thing still looming large on president trump's to do list. ay. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something... set it free. see you around, giulia ♪
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let's head around the inside politics table and ask our reporters to get you out ahead of the big political news just around the corner. glen. >> i think you have to look for the grown-ups table. i think secretary of defense mattis, tillerson, and kelly at dhs are going to form their own little group and make decisions relatively independently of the white house. >> that will be interesting. >> the white house has been very active, but one thing that is missing is donald trump's legislative agenda.
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they insist they can do everything at once that so far we haven't seen legislation on paying for a wall. we're not seeing legislation on obama care coming out of the white house. we are not exactly sure what they want to put in a tax plan. it's still early. there is still time. donald trump is meeting with his lej affairs team today, but a gaping hole so far. >> o >> a lot of eyes on the japanese leaders' visit in a couple of days, but there's another important meeting that's being planned for and that's israeli leader benjamin netanyahu. there's a huge profile that iran will take really eclipsing the middle east peace debate that's g gone on and some questions about how russia politics, syria politics plays into that. i think there will be a lot of planning for that coming up. >> no question. >> donald trump said, and i quote, "if you look at what certain countries are doing to this country, i mean they've totally taken advantage of this country. could be mexico. could be china. nope, that was japan in 1987 and
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1988." that was his whipping boy. it's like mad libs. donald trump may not change, but the target does. >> mexico, japan, so forth. because i'm a subtoday, i'm going to install a new rule that hopefully that everybody will live by, which is if you are on the show and you are parodied by "snl" you get to sit through it and watch it and we can all talk about it afterwards. roll it. >> glen thrush, "new york times", boom, go ahead. >> i want to ask about the travel ban on muslims. >> it's not a ban. >> i'm sorry. >> it's not a ban. the travel ban is not a ban, which makes it not a ban. >> but you just called it a ban. >> bought iecause i'm using you. you said ban. you said ban. now i'm saying it back to you. >> the president tweet and i quote, "if the ban were announced with a one week notice --" >> yeah, exactly. you just said that.
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>> you're way better looking. can we all just say that? >> absolutely. >> i have to say he tweeted that, and i want to just reinforce that. does that make you feel better? >> that makes me feel better. now you said it in public. >> you're welcome. anything? two words? >> it's like my bar mitzvah. >> thanks for watching "inside politics." my colleague wolf blitzer is up after a break. want to hear. ou what you but kind is honest. this bar is made with cranberries and almonds. so, guess what? we call it cranberry almond. give kind a try.
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>> hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. wherever you are watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. right now we're keeping an eye on two major stories developing this hour here in the united states. take a look at this. live pictures coming in from the white house briefing room where the press secretary sean spicer will be taking reporters' questions this hour. from the u.s. senate floor where senators will decide later today on whether senator jeff sessions should become the next attorney general of the united states. they've been debating his nomination on the senate floor for nearly 24 hours straight. over at the white house, we expect
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