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rights. he has been very vocal about it. >> republicans say it is 20 years in the senate that he was not hostile to civil rights. >> i can tell you how many hearings i sat through where sessions questioned doj witnesses about why they were enforcing civil rights laws. i think the burden is on him. >> well, we will -- and we will watch along with you, matt. thanks so much. >> thank you. >> thanks for joining us at this hour. "inside politics with john king" starts right now. >> thanks, kate. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. happy friday. president trump vowed to repeal, but a big loss in court means his travel and refugee ban remains on hold. that's a huge early setback. >> it's a political decision that we're going to see them -- it's a decision that we'll win, in my opinion, very easily. >> plus, a big day on the world stage for the president. there's a swirling controversy around his national security advisor, and japan's prime minister is at the white house
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hoping president trump is a very different man than candidate trump. >> at some point we have to say, you know what, we're better off if japan protects itself against this maniac in it north korea. >> and who says washington isn't consistent? another long night of democratic complaints. then another party line vote to clear a key trump cabinet pick. >> what tom price essentially wants to do is to get us into the way back machine and return us to a time when corporate insurance companies were calling the shots in our country. back to a time when a person could go bankrupt because of medical bills. back in time when americans had to choose between paying the rent and paying for a life-saving medical treatment. >> senator markey with the perfect accent there. with us -- ryan liz of the new yorker, matt pfizer of the boston cloeb, and nia malika
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henderson. from. the president will be asked about a major loss at the ninth u.s. circuit court of appeals, which in a 3-0 ruling decided to leave in place a lower court order that blocked them from implementing the travel ban. among other things, the three judges says the government has pointed to no evidence that any of the aliens has perpetrated a terrorist attack on the united states. rather than present evidence for the executive order, the government has taken the position that we must review its decision at all. we disagree. that leaves us where we are today. the administration says all options are on the table. they said that in another court hearing in virginia today. there was another case against the president's travel ban. all options on the table means they could appeal this ruling to the full ninth circuit to see if the full panel would reverse it. unlikely to happen with a 3-0 decision. they could get the supreme court to intervene. they could just pull it, pull the executive order and say, you know what, we're not going to fight this. we're going to write a new one where. >> you look at the commentary
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from conservative legal scholars last night, there is a great deal of fear that they have gotten themselves into a war with the courts that will they don't want to pursue anymore. in other words, the argument is trump pulled the executive order, writes one that's more legally solid that doesn't open you up from some of the legal challenges from the left, that doesn't give, for instance, potentially due process rights for non-american immigrants, that doesn't, you know, cut the president's ability to have great sway over the visa and immigration policy. they read that opinion last night, and they said maybe this is a battle that we don't want to pursue. i would watch for that. now that jeff sessions is the attorney general and the justice department is more fully staffed, watch to see if they review it and decide -- pull this order, that case will then become moot, and write a more bulletproof order. >> that's a more nuanced, cautious, say, if we take this to the supreme court and lose, we might set a precedent that we don't like. not just for our administration, but for conservatives going forward. however, that's not the
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president's instinct. the president's instinct is to be -- whb he loses a round, he punches back. he tweeted last night, "remarkably in the entire opinion, the panel did not bother to cite the statute." a disgraceful decision, the president goes on to say. he also tweeted "see you in court. the security of our nation is at stake." the president's instinct is to fight. it's a understandable instinct if you think you're right. but will he? >> we'll see. i think that that's probably the de facto position that he will take is to continue to appeal this case. the problem, you know, makes sense on one level to say you're going to rewrite the executive order, and there are some things that they could fix, but i don't think it's going to be that simple to write an executive order that achieves the same thing that he sought to achieve here and still get by what the ninth circuit said because these issues of due process -- what they said essentially is that due process rights aren't just for american citizens, but they're for anybody who is in this country. if you are someone that's here on a visa -- not a green card, but just a plain old visa, which
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is a temporary right to be in the united states, and suddenly the administration is saying, no, you can never come back in the country. you can't leave and come back. there's no due process rights for you. then that's -- it's going to be kind of hard. the administration can at any time it wants stop issuing new visas perhaps, but it's going to be hard. >> in the case of the executive order, if you read the decision, part of it is that judges disagree with the administration's position, but part of it the juz are clearly trying to make the point that they think this was sloppy. it was not rolled out well. it was not done well. then you get into the argument, do you just pull it back and rewrite it and say take two, but how -- that's a legal decision, you would make, and a process decision you would make, but in terms of personality and politics, of suffering, if he doesn't fight this one, will the president be perceived as losing big out of the box? >> there was also -- the decision -- unanimous decision -- was point by point striking down everything that the administration had laid out. there was no room for compromise in the judges -- >> just one second. we see the president much the united states.
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he is greeting the japanese prime minister shinzo abe outside of the west wing there. a beautiful shot. we'll just watch the greeting. see them heading into the white house now for the oval office, and their talks, not the first time these two men have met. it's the first time they will meet as donald trump as president. prime minister abe came to the united states during the transition to try to begin the relationship. we'll watch as this plays out. i'm sorry. back to the court order. >> other thing in here was the muslim ban. i mean, the court cited trump's own rhetoric on that. he was calling it a muslim ban. rudy giuliani and others who were involved in this were calling it a muslim ban. that's the other thing that makes it difficult for trump to square is his past rhetoric and the way that he has referred to this executive order. >> that was part of the interesting legal argument because the government was arguing that so-called legislative intent -- congress
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passes laws, and they go back to the debate on the senate floor. the debate in the committee. what was the legislative intent of this? what the government was saying here was you can't -- the candidate intent because candidates routinely throw their promises out the window. you can't go back to pre-inauguration, but the court here clearly was saying and some of the things rudy giuliani said were in the transition and after. let's just remind people, this was during the campaign. the administration says this is not a muslim ban, but the court considered statements, including this. >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states until we figure out what the hell is going on. in screening out the sympathizers of terrorist groups, we must also screen out any who have hostile attitudes towards our country or its principles or who believe that shaara law should supplant
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american law. >> the government says that was pre-inauguration. you shouldn't count that in. it seems from the decision that had they handled the roll-out differently and had they have the homeland security -- they might be more protected from that. in a sense that there was no government record of what the president meant in this order. just the order itself which a lot of people found confusing. >> in part of the order, in part of the president's own words, they suggested that they wanted to give christians religious minorities in their own, you know, religious minorities, christians and muslim majority countries preference. >> something else he has been saying is that there seems to be serious, serious national security crisis that this order is meant to address.
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>> the idea that he has months, he is going to take mods to address what he is saying, is this urgent crisis doesn't sort of make sense. zoo that was the other interesting thing about the court case. you're saying this is an urgent national security threat. we don't see it. we don't see this was barack obama was president three weeks ago and nobody felt like we were at an urgent risk. >> some critics say he is trying to elevate this, and it's pretty much the same intelligence you had in the final days of the obama administration. yes, this is an issue. >> i think it shows, too, that words matter. you know, and trump is overcoming that so many times.
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there weren't consequences. voters didn't punish him for some of his words during the campaign, but, you know, there was this talk about literally or figuratively. how do you take him? a court is going to take him literally. you know? they can't interpret and have figurative conclusions about donald trump's language. this is one of the first times where he has been punished and there's consequences for that rhetoric. >> a lesson out of the box. we're talking about this ban, banning refugees and putting this temporary ban. they say it's a pause. >> in court the administration says -- listen, this is the attorney general of the state of washington. his critics are now emboldened. the states attorneys general are in line and a bunch of other issues. about ferguson, he says let's keep fighting. >> we have seen him in court twice, and we're 2 for 2. that's number one.
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and in my view the future of the constitution is at stake. the president does have a choice. he it continue to fight this or he can tear up this executive order and start over. i would strongly encourage him to consider the latter course of action. >> this is on the -- a signature issue of the trump campaign and now the trump presidency, but this is going to happen time and time again. especially if he keeps using executive actions that he is going to be challenged in the courts, and this could get interesting, and we could test the limits of his power pretty quickly. >> absolutely. we're seeing the traditional institutional restraints kick in on a president that wants to be more aggressive on states attorneys general suing them and states taking action. i thought one of the most important lines in that decision last night was the trump administration argued that the court didn't even have the right to review this. reviewability was the one section of the opinion. they said i have such broad powers when it comes to national security, that the courts can't even touch this.
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just a serious review. >> revenge of the so-called judges i guess we could call that. in his tweets, i say that flip antley, but in what he has said after, the president has been more careful. you called the ruling a disgrace. he says he will fight it, but he has not attacked the judges himself. >> yeah. i'm sure some of that -- judges are human. i'm sure some of that weighed into their decision, wanting to really have a full-throated rebuke of this order in this presidency. essentially saying that he didn't understand the sort of separation of powers and the judicial branch can check it. we saw some of this with republican attorneys generals against obama too. >> his own immigration -- >> his own immigration executive order. obama care, of course. we're seeing that again with these democratic votes in states like washington. we'll see it from new york as well and virginia where. >> up next, members of congress
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with one towelette. need any more proof than that? neutrogena. welcome back. moments ago we showed you the japanese prime minister shinzo abe arriving. we're told the two leaders just had a greeting inside the oval office and a hug. they didn't speak on any issues of substance so, we're not going to take the audio, but you will see it when it feeds from the white house pool. a little glimpse inside the oval office. it is friday here in washington, which means that's get-away day for members of congress. the senate was here late, past midnight, to confirm one of the president's pick.
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that's tom price, soon to be former congressman. he will be in charge of repairing if you want to choose that word -- it's been around a lot this week -- obama care. that solution is current m. i.a., or a work in progress, depending who you ask. constituents back home across the country, listen in, they're fed up. they want to know what is going to happen. there are the pictures of the president and prime minister abe in the oval office. thaegts that's a much calmer scene than what we just saw. jason is thinking can i be in that room? that's kind of nice. the pictures of jason chaffitz home last night in utah. he has a conservative district, but he also has -- part of this is organization.
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how much this is organization and how much this is pure outrage, anxiety, questions, demand, and can the progressive groups, let's call them that, sustain it? >> i think that the main -- in order for organization to work, you have to have true angst and anxiety behind that. it may be a combination of the two. i do think it helps to have some -- i think the thing that's interesting here is that the positions in washington have flipped, and you have democrats now in the position of is an op zpligs party trying to stop something, and it's always easier to be a critic than it is to try to advance an agenda and, you know, we saw republicans do a pretty good job of stopping things in recent years here in washington, and i think that now we're seeing democrats trying to organize themselves both as much as they can in the senate and out in the field. i think it's important. >> we just showed you the video, and you think, okay, that's just one congressman. there are 435 of them. what's the big deal.
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we also had crew last night in tennessee, congresswoman diane beck back home. look. >> i have to have coverage to make sure i don't die. there are people that have cancer that have to have that covered to make sure they don't die. you want to take away and have nothing to replace it with. how can i trust you to do anything that is in our interest at all? >> you see awe rowdy crowd and a very pointed personal this is about my life question at another town hall. this is the kind of thing that the republicans will say these are plants, the democratic groups are putting them in town halls. especially when you get a personal story like that. that will get the attention of a member of congress who will come back and say, mr. speaker, we need a plan. >> i remember 2009, and there were protests against that especially in august of 2009.
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a lot of democrats saying, oh, this is just coke brothers funded astroturf, and maybe it was. there's always money involved. you can't spend money -- >> 2010 and 2014 happened. >> exactly. >> i think what you are seeing both with the court and with the public, you are starting to see our system working. you are starting to see institutional restraints. when one branch of government to one part of our country gets too powerful, you start to see other things kick in. >> they want to repeal. they're unified there, but the replacement part is really hard. the president is frustrated because he has made a list of things he wants in a bill that happen to be the most popular and expensive parts of obama
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care. i assume there will be pressure on the speaking and the majority leader mcconnell to figure this out fast. >> look where these are happening too. these are two very conservative districts. diane black and jason chafitz have won repeatedly by 70% or more. they are in the safest of seats, and they are seeing this kind of atmosphere at their town hall meetings. >> health care policy is complicated. it's very kplikd. you cannot just give people the popular parts and not the unpopular parts. it all fits together. if you want to cover people are preexisting conditions, somebody has to pay for that. under obama care, the way that works is that we try to force healthy people into the system so their premiums
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cross-subsidyize other premiums. if you want to take that mandate away, you have to replace it with something else. that's what they're finding. it's very easy to say repeal and replace, and we've been hearing that for years and years now, and frankly, i don't have a lot of sympathy for republicans on this. they've been promising a replacement, and they've never coalesced around one. now it's time. >> it's a complicated dough bait. i bet the protests increase the urgency though. next, that big white house meeting with japan's prime minister. plus, new questions about a top perfect aide's dealings with russia. you don't let anything keep you sidelined.
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welcome back. you see there in the oval office. president trump meeting with the japanese prime minister shinzo abe. that's at the white house today. they plan a news conference at the top of the hour. we'll have special coverage for you. as you just saw, we have a quick glimpse of the two men in the oval office. that's hardly the only big international story we're tracking today. in a phone call with china's president last night, mr. trump affirmed the so-called one china
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policy. how beijing had insisted on that because of actions by trump and his team during the post-election transition period that china found offensive. another area of uncertainty during the transition? the iran deal. remember candidate trump? he said he would tear it up, the nuclear deal, on day one. now the chief of the european union says president trump's senior officials indicated to him the united states remains "committed" to implementing that deal. there's a giant debate rippling through the west wing today. did president trump's national security advisor lie to the vice president? as a result, lead to the vice president lying on national television? at issue, this unequivocal mike pence answer when asked if michael dplin in calls to the russian officials in the final days of the obama administration, discussed how the new trufrp administration might ease sanctions against the kremlin. >> it was strictly coincidental that they had a conversation. they did not discuss anything having to do with the united states' decision to expel diplomats or impose censure
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against russia. what i can confirm, having spoken to him about it, is that those conversations that happen to occur around the time that the united states took action to expel diplomats had nothing whatsoever to do with those sanctions. >> nothing whatsoever to do with those sanctions. that was the vice president right there on camera. you saw it. no wiggle room there at all. the washington post reports today that u.s. intelligence intercepted the flynn calls to the russian ambassador and clearly indicates sanctions were discussed, and flynn who had adamantly denied talking about sanctions, now says he can't say for sure whether the topic came up. >> there's an obscure law that has never been used that says you can't essentially interfere. you have one president at a time, and you can't be discussing potential future transactions with another government. that's one issue. general flynn, did he violate the spirit of this law? to me the more political
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conversation is mike pence's credibility. the vice president of the united states, we are told, our elizabeth flanders doing great reporting on this saying he is concerned about this, and he is trying to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. now, clearly, u.s. intelligence intercepted those calls. the vice president and the president and general flynn for that matter now know what those intercepts found, and general flynn is backing off. >> the choices seem to be either he lied to the vice president and any number of additional people or he can't recall sensitive conversations he had with russian officials. either one of those is terrible, right? a national security advisor, you know, under a normal circumstance in a normal -- it's -- >> there's one line that i can't remember seeing in a newspaper in a really long time. it said according to nine officials. they had nine current and
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previous administration officials telling them the account of what happened here, and there's a very crucial 24 hour period between when our sanctions and the obama administration went into effect and when the russian government said, you know what, we're going to wait. we're not going to do anything. there's going to be more r-- we're going to wait for the incoming administration. flynn was talking to the ambassador in that 24-hour period. the idea that sanctions didn't come up would be very surprising. >> right. >> russia not responding. it's kind of like donald trump not sending a tweet when somebody gets in his face, and so the question is did they know something, were this he told something by adam flynn? the leading democrat on the intelligence committee today said if he did so, then he and other administration officials misled the american people. his conduct would be all the more pernicious, and he should no longer serve in the administration. here's a republican on with kate baldwin last hour.
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>> i think the first thing we'll do is get all the facts, and then if the facts lead us in the direction to say that we've been misled or there's been misinformation provided, he is an employee of the president. we would expect the president to take appropriate actions and if there needs to be discussions within congress, that will happen, but the president is in charge of his employees, and i think -- i'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this. >> give him the benefit of the doubt on this. you have another issue republicans on the record raising questions about what's happening in the trump white house. >> it could be an instance where the coverup is worse than the crime. as you mentioned, it's sort of an obscure law, what he was in, but lying, you know, and causing the vice president to lie, you know, it gets him in a lot more trouble internally with the white house. it also, i mean, this hits that issue of russia that john mccain and lindsey graham. there's a lot of effort in congress to hold the trump administration accountable on russia. it gets him in a lot of trouble. >> and one of the questions is
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were there inappropriate conversations between trump associates and the russian government during the campaign and now if you bring all this into it, you can be certain -- john mccain has said very nice things about general flynn. he has said nice things saying he trusts him on the national security team. on this broader issue of the trump-russia relationship, the investigative hawks were already out. >> absolutely. i think another point that we should think about here is that while president trump might be inclined to keep him or maybe excuse this behavior, i'm sure the vice president right now is very angry about this because he is the guy who got -- who went out there and put his own credibility on the line. i'm kind of curious what that conversation is like and whether he is going to demand some serious repercussions or even his head. we'll see. >> let's move on to -- i mentioned at the top in the conversation with the president last night, donald trump, apparently the chinese demanded this to have the phone call. he said and we will adhere to the one china policy, even though president trump has said he has reservations about it.
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this is going back to the congratulation call and he says he was going to label china a currency manipulator on day one. is this a case where you had this outsider, different disruptive candidate trump suddenly becoming more the establishment trump or is this a play for something else? >> i think this is completely stunning and utterly productable, right? >> any diplomat would have told trump that in the beginning. what is stunning is that he either because of his advisors or because he got -- went public and said he was going to use the one china policy for a bargaining chip for all sorts of other issues, and now he has had to completely throw that aside. >> and at the time some people think, oh, maybe this is trump
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being crazy like a fox and maybe this is some great brilliant strategy. turns out that they basically had to go hat in hand to the chinese leader, write a letter and say, you know, happy new year. then after -- given the silent treatment, at least according to the "new york times" for weeks and weeks and weeks. you think about other things that he has done. mexico paying for the wall. how has that worked out for you? at some point, you know, trump said this white house is going to be sick of winning. i don't think they're there yet in terms of being sick of winning. >> three weeks in. a number of setbacks. three weeks is a little early to start writing a report card. let's talk about the conversation that's going on right now. during the campaign at one point candidate trump did say that the united states was being taken by japan in trade deals, in the security arrangement, and maybe it was time for the united states to pull back and let japan and south korea worry aboutle north korea even if they decided to go the nuclear route, which was blasphemy for a candidate to say that.
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i think very smart on his part came over during the transition to build the relationship. going to spend the weekend with the president. again, this is more traditional. this is more getting back in the establishment. this is a key ally relationship. right? >> trump also during the campaign ridiculed caroline kennedy, the ambassador to japan, saying she had been wined and dined by abe. this weekend he is wining and dining with abe. there is this aspect of him being willing. abe was very smart, and you know he came to trump tower, and he brought him a golf club. it was a golden golf club that was $3,000 or something. now trump is starting to come around on the personal level, which i think you hear a lot about trump and connecting with people on a personal level. it's very smart of the japanese prime minister, who probably wants to think about tpp and think about some of the other policies. >> there is a lot on the line because of tpp, the transpacific partnership, which abe had a lot invested in that multilateral trade deal, as did the united
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states under obama, and that has now officially been taken off the table. he would like to see perhaps a bilateral trade agreement. there is a lot at stake for him economically. >> the security relationship as well. we'll see the two leaders at the top of the hour. about 20 minutes from now. we'll have special coverage of that. up next, ooiivanka trump is los an enthusiastic marketing voice. the counsellor has been counselled. knows how it feels to seees your numbers go up, despite your best efforts.
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welcome back. it's pretty clear what the view of the white house is. no big deal. >> kellyanne has been counselled, and that's all we're going to go with. she's been counselled on that subject, and that's it. >> that's it. you heard it right there. at issue kellyanne conway's tv pitch for folks to go on-line and buy ivanka trump's clothing line. cnn is told -- there was a
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letter asking how it planned to handle. conway doesn't sound all that worried. >> we're reviewing that internally. i'm really happy i spent an awful lot of time with the president of the united states this afternoon and that he supports me 100%. >> i guess that's it. in some ways this is silly. in an interview pitching ivanka trump's clothing line, except she's sitting in the white house briefing room. she's a federal employee. she's paid for by the people watching this at home, taxpayers, and it is a clear violation of ethics rules. should it be? shouldn't it be? it is. it is a clear violation of the ethics rules. what happens now? does the administration have to sanction her, suspend her, or was it just she was counselled, where from our reporting the president didn't like that term. >>. >> i think that the fact that
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the -- this will continue to go. it can't just go away. it's going to continue. i don't know that she's necessarily on her way out or anything like that. i don't think there's going to be any long-term repercussions for her, but i do think that this speaks to a larger issue of what's going on here. i mean, let's go back to why was she talking about nordstrom and talking about ivanka trump's products in the first place? it was because the president had tweeted that morning admonishing nordstrom for dropping her line, which is kind of a bizarre thing in the first place to think that he -- of course, it's become standard operating fair around here. >> if violating government ethics rules makes you in the good spotlight of the boss, then it's worth doing? >> yeah. he was basically sort of setting the terms of talking about ivanka trump's line via twitter, and then she made very clear -- she reminded viewers there that she had spent an awful lot of time with the president in whatever meeting and, you know,
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i don't know if he was counselling her or what at that point, but, yeah, i mean, i think the question for the -- >> was that for the audience on television or sean spicer? a lot of time with the president. >> i think for the chafitz thing it is interesting that he is choosing to do this, and he signed -- it's a bipartisan, you know, request, but is this all there is? i mean, of all of the problems that this administration poses in terms of conflict of interest, the fact that they have settled on this is -- i think in some ways cover for not doing the other thing. >> remember, they said during the campaign, everything hillary clinton did was some sort of a pay for play or everything was crooked and everything was gaming the system or bending the system. >> slush fund. >> for your own benefit. now people can roll their eyes. here's another take. >> i saw that interview. that was call it a little bit of frustration, but she was smiling, she was laughing, she
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was speaking about herself to be -- she's going to go buy some of the jewelry or other items. it was -- it's been somebody's making a mountain out of a mole hill here. i would say get a life. >> we have rules for a reason. i mean, the congressman himself is in this whole thing about whether he is giving stock tips to members of congress. we have rules for a reason. if you are a candidate that says drain the swamp, get a life doesn't do it. these rules matter, even on trivial things. >> it's a clear violation. chafitz, the first time he sent a democratic leader into the office of government ethics saying i want you to recommend a disciplinary action for kellyanne conway. the president is going to have to make a decision whether he is going to do anything. now, this is not a federal crime. she's not going to go to jail, but reince priebus or the president is going to have to decide, and i have a piece at new yorker.com about some of the drama that happened yesterday,
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and they all say that -- all the different factions that we read and write about is all kicked into gear over this one, and what's spicer and kellyanne conway and the president, they were not all on the same page with that remark that spicer said at the podium yesterday. saying she was counselled. by the end of the day the president put out a statement to the a.p. saying he stood by kellyanne, so judging by that, i don't think she's in any great danger of disciplinary action. >> one example of three very interesting early weeks in the trump white house and the competing factions. everybody stay. the president meeting with the prime minister of japan. don't go anywhere. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something...
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zpliefrmgt a live picture of the white house there. president trump meeting with prime minister shinzo abe of japan. the two leaders about to have a press conference at the top of the hour. no doubt, the president will be asked about the travel ban. a big court decision yesterday. a setback for the administration. perhaps he will be asked about the controversy about his national security advisor who has said there's the room right there, the east room where the two leaders will speak. he has said he did not discuss the issues on a post-election call of russia's ambassador. now that is in doubt because of intercepted u.s. intelligence calls. quickly to the table, do you have a question for the president today? what would it be? >> this is the issue that i have been concentrating on. i would ask what did he think of what kellyanne did and will there be disciplinary action?
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this is cnn breaking news. it's almost 1:00 p.m. here in washington, 3:00 a.m. saturday in tokyo. wherever you are watching from around the world, thanks very much for joining us. we begin with breaking news. president trump, japanese prime minister shinzo abe about to hold a joint news conference over at the east room of the white house. you are looking at a live picture coming in right now. the president and the prime minister, they will make opening statements, and then take reporters' questions. we'll bring that to you live. stay tuned. the two leaders met earlier in the oval office. this is the second time president trump has hosted a world leader over at the white house. the first was the british prime minister theresa may. after their joint news
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conference, the president and the japanese prime minister, they will have a working lurchl, and then the two leaders and their wives will head to the president's resort in palm beach, florida. >> let's bring in three of our correspondents for a preview. jeff zellaney, pamela brown, and cnn international correspondent will ripley, who is joining us from tokyo. jeff, give us a preview of this news conference. what are some of the key issues, president trump, prime minister abe will focus on? >> well, wolf, within just a few minutes or so, president trump is going to be holding his second meeting here at the white house in the east room of the white house with a foreign leader. we saw those pictures just a short time ago with prime minister shinzo abe in the oval office. now, this is the second time they have met. right after the election the president paid a visit to new york city to meet with the president-elect, but here, wolf,
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is the first time they're able to talk about such issues. security, of course, on the agenda. job creation. so many issues here with japan. it is an opening series here of a weekend of hospitality. the president is going to travel down to florida to a -- with the prime minister and his wife as well. the beginning here of what they hope will be a strong relationship, wolf, as so many real issues are on the agenda. >> one issue on the agenda for the president certainly is the federal appeals court ruling that keeps his travel ban on hold at least for now. are we getting any indication from officials where you are over at the white house what the white house -- what the administration will do next and when? >> wolf, i am told that they are still considering their options here. of course, the president will be asked about this at the news conference. the white house press secretary sean spicer said they are considering if they will do a new executive order. that's one thing being considered. he tells me that has not been fully decided at this point.
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a lawsuit is one option as well. the president not happy with the ruling yesterday. he wants to keep his executive order or the spirit of it in place. right now i'm told that they are still figuring out exactly how to do that legally. >> stand by. pamela, what about the option of the trump administration simply drafting another executive order. forget about the first one. how would that work? >> well, that is certainly a possibility that we're told the trump administration is contemplating as they try to figure out the next step, and so what the administration could do is basically clarify what wasn't in the initial executive order, which is the fact that it wouldn't apply to green cardholders. there is a lot of confusion about that initially and then the administration came out and said it doesn't apply to green cardholders, but people have said those against the executive order has said it needs to be more explicit, it needs to be in writing, and that could be something they do is clarify
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that and make the travel ban more narrowly tailored. presumably, if they do that, that would supersede the executive order that is now being challenged in the courts, which would essentially make the lawsuits a moot point. what's interesting, though, is that the judges in the ninth circuit rejected the department of justice' temporary compromise to have the travel ban only apply to people overseas who have never stepped foot in the united states because doj argued those people don't have constitutional rights. however, the judges in the ninth circuit said even that could be problematic because it could harm citizens in the u.s. who would want noncitizens to come visit them here. there's a lot that the administration has to weigh as they figure out what to do next. wolf. >> will ripley in tokyo for us. will, president trump set off alarm bells during the campaign in tokyo, especially where you are when he suggested allies like japan might be better off developing their own nuclear weapons instead of depending on the united states.
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these security concerns in terms of this bilateral relationship, they are powerful right now. the relationship the security alliance in the united states, it has been critical in keeping stability in this heavily militaryized part of the world for 70 years, wolf. you have north korea at any moment ready to launch an icbm. you have china building up these artificial islands essentially permanent aircraft carriers in the south china sea, and the united states has more than 50,000 troops based here. when the u.s. president said that if japan didn't pay more for the u.s. alliance, that they might have to go at it on their own, that was very concerning for people here, which is why the prime minister brought his financial advisors and a whole packet of documents saying they believe the costs are shared about 50-50 because if it comes down to price, they want to make the argument that
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