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issues, there's a lot of common ground that people have. i think it removes that animosity. >> i'll tell you that's, if you guys can go through what you went through and have different political views but still find a way to take care of each other and support each other, the rest of the country has no excuse. and i hope that becomes a lesson out of san bernardino. >> i hope so, too. >> fascinating, meaningful conversation. thanks for watching 360 tonight. the messy truth, hosted by van the messy truth, hosted by van jones, starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com [ applause ] welcome to "the messy truth." i'm van jones. first off, god bless coretta scott king. now no matter what you think of elizabeth warren reading the
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letter and getting in trouble, that widow had an awful lot of courage. america always needs those bold truth tellers. tonight we have one of america's boldest, bravest, baddest truth tellers right here. bill maher will be with us for the full hour tonight on this stage. we've got bill maher. [ applause ] i love it. so we've got a lot of stuff we're going to talk to bill maher about, but i want to start with this travel ban. here's the messy truth. both sides have got a ton to large about this debacle. there is a right way and a wrong way to do anything. if something is this vital to american security you have to handle it competently. don't forget all the step the and forget to consult all the right agencies and mess it up. here's what we do know.
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you've gone from one bad move, banning seven countries by ambush with no real process to another bad move, tweet attacking a judge, which is completely unpresidential, to another bad move, saying the media doesn't cover terror attacks, which we do. and on and on. the ban's like this banana peel. you keep slipping on and slipping on. that is not going to work. a pattern of mistakes like this could consume your whole presidency. you got to stop it. now, for the liberals, here's your messy truth. your basic argument is basically helping donald trump. that's right. you're helping trump. liberals are saying trump is injuring american values. and trump is saying, i'm trying to keep terrorists from blowing you up. you see how your soft, lofty argument helps trump seem more tough and practical? meanwhile, the liberals sound like social studies teachers.
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trump isn't just endangering american values but the american people. the american president shouldn't be a recruiting tool for isis. america's best defenders are muslims, in uniform, on the front line. translating for our soldiers, muslims here in america, speaking up in the mosques, picking up the phone, calling the cops. trump should work with muslims, bring them to the white house and find a way to really undermine the bad guys. that would honor american values. it would also save american lives, something for both sides to think about. but apparently, i'm not the only one who is confused about what's going on here. let's hear from one of the sharpest minds in american politics and what he thinks about this situation. watch this. >> way back after our last show, which is only a week ago, he entered sort of this muslim ban, which he called a ban, and then his press secretary sean spicer called it a ban, and then they are were protests.
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and trump tweeted, you can call it a ban if you like. so they're really on message. and the message is we have no idea what we're doing. >> all right, this is a huge honor for me. bill maher has become the leading critical voice in the age of trump. please welcome to the stage a national treasure, the man who is trying to make america sane again, the legendary, bill maher. in the house. [ applause ] >> thank you. that was very sweet of you, sir. thank you very much. thank you, folks. >> my goodness t is an honor. >> van the man. it's an honor to be here. you're doing great in your new job. wasn't it great to be fired? we both got fired and came out smelling like a rose. >> we should call our show lemonade, they gave us lemons. speaking of lemonade, i'm sure
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from a personal point of view, this trump thing sucks, but as a professional comic, is this like a gold mine for you? >> of course he is, but the problem is, how long can it go on? we're only in the first month of this presidency. >> like the first couple weeks. >> and i mean, i have a little fatigue about it. >> yeah. >> we have to talk about trump. we also have to not talk about donald trump. >> yeah, well, i tell you what. there's one guy who is definitely not talking about donald trump or thinking about trump. what do you think this guy is feeling right now? >> he should run again and tell us that's his twin brother dave. [ laughter ] >> dave obama. >> dave obama. >> he had a twin. we already looked into the birth certificate. so they won't find anything thayer. trump will send his investigators to hawaii. by the way, how's that investigation going? how's the one into the 3 million illegals who voted?
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remember, there's a -- you know, it's hi it's like he's looking for o.j.'s killers. the real killers that o.j. was looking for on the golf course. he says these things and they disappear into the ethey are. >> you've been tough on islam islamic -- >> shouldn't we be? >> on that point, why isn't trump your best president ever? he's going after them. >> as you said, he's going after them in the wrong way. the muslim ban is not a great idea. it's not american, and it's not helpful. it's just going to make things worse. and what we should do, of course, is just be liberals on the issue. that's the big picture. we are liberals. we should be for equality of the sexes, respect for minorities.
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>> yes. >> separation of church and state, you are all liberals. we have to recognize the fact that the most, very often il liberal countries in the world sha -- people are my onic. they only see what's in america. there's only about 3 million muslims in america. they're not the problem. but there's over a million and half around the world. >> a billion and a half. >> a billion and a half around the world. so i think what we should do, also, is cheer when there are muslims elected to high office in the west, like the mayor of london. >> absolutely. >> because then they have to say i am for western values. like that mayor came out against women wearing the face veil. we need to ask more of them. >> i tell you what.
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i am i have, very proud of american muslims as are you. we have the most amazing muslims in the world as best i can tell. some of them are -- >> who are you. >> like for instance a lot of times when people, we stopped a terror plot. sometimes the people who turned them in were muslim, doing exactly what you want. >> the chicken stand dude. >> the chicken stand dude, he's like hey. >> that is a patriot. when you put country and people's lives over your own family. it's line the uni bomber's brother turned him in. >> and that's hashed to do. >> why? >> if your brother's the unibomber, you probably don't want to call the cops yourself. >> i want to bring somebody into this conversation who has a different view of trump than me or you. he's a mass ipastor. let's hear from reverend mark.
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>> good evening. >> he is a pastor. >> he's lulling us in. >> americans are now subject, truly, to increasing forms of terrorist attacks on u.s. soil. you may know just last week, last thursday night, in fact, a man described as latino or middle eastern with a heavy beard, dressed in black with a beanie, tossed an explosive device into the cheesecake factory from pasadena, california, where i eat. radical islamic jihadists have vowed to kill americans. in part by infiltrating the refugee population. we must simply weed out the bad so that we can accept the good. don't you agree with that? >> yeah, well, first of all, when they go after the
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cheesecake factory -- >> they've crossed the line. they've crossed the line. >> that's a red flag we cannot accept in this country. yes, of course, but the question is how? and being realistic about it, but, again, i don't think that the problem is mostly here in america. and also, a ban is so silly, because it's something, it's ideas. that the, most of the attacks we've had in america, i think, are from people who are already here. the orlando killer. he was here. he wasn't coming in from yemen. he grew up here, did he not? >> he did. and part of -- >> and he talked about our filthy ways. i mean, there's some of that in religious people's heads. >> i'm a religious person. it's not if my head. >> i am an atheist, sorry, reverend, but all religions in my view are stupid and dangerous. but in different eras, they take the lead at being -- >> look, i --
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>> why don't you let me finish this point? do you just hate someone saying bad things about religion? you can't do that on cnn? what is it, the spicer white house here? that's my point of view. it's the point of view by millions and millions of people in this world and this country, religions are down all over. why? i'd like to think i had something to do with it. >> you have a documentary, you have a book? >> oh, yeah. >> i want to ask you this question. >> you just won't let me. go ahead. >> oh, no, no. >> go ahead. >> my only question is because you actually are a progressive, and you want progressives to win elections, the african-american community is overwhelmingly religious, and part of the black turnout is the black church, when you say all religions are stupid, aren't you putting down the base? >> i didn't say all religious people are stupid, i said all religions are stupid.
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>> so reverend king, 90% of black people voted out of the churches. >> it's not to a group of people or to ratings. that's the truth as i see it. >> yes. >> and by the way, again, this is a more and more common view. is anyone in this audience atheist, agnostic or just doesn't want to get up on sunday and go to church. they're raising their hands. >> applaud. >> you can raiapplaud. >> this is america now. it used to be oh, my god, he said this thing on cnn. this is america. and we have to realize that fact. anyway, the point i was going to make, in the 16th century, it would be christianity i would be going after for being way too intolerant and way too violent, because that's the age of the inquisition, and they were. now that is more islam than christianity. i think they're both of dumb and dangerous, but at this point,
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one is more violent, more intoll re rant and more dangerous. >> a lot of people see the united states as a christian nation, when they see those -- >> they should not. >> when they -- >> because planely, we weinly, . >> they don't take the oath when they're on the bill maher dvd set. i think christianity's somewhat violent. >> this is another area where the trump white house approach is wrong. the counterweight to radical islam is secularism. in steve bannon's world, it's christianity. he's super christ-y on this. christ-y? we can't say that? reverend, let's get the rev to
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see if that is allowed. we can say super christ-y. and know that the counterweight should be secularism. they want to make this a battle between the two religions, who, by the way, have been going at each over for over 1,000 years. this does go back to the crusades, it ebbed and flowed throughout history. and it's the dumbest thing, trump's going to do it. >> i want you to stick around. we have a lot of other dumb stuff to talk about. when we get back, we will talk about elizabeth warren. she was silenced by the senate. but she's got conservatives being sigh lensd on campus. we're going to break down the messy truth when we get back. [ applause ] this lovely lady has a typical airline credit card.
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free speech is under attack from the left and the right. just their week, senator elizabeth warren was silenced in the senate. they literally ordered her to sit down and shut up after she read a letter that coretta scott king had written 30 years ago, opposing the nomination of jeff sessions for a federal judgeship. i personally am glad she quote-unquote persisted. but you have a lot of people on the left who also want to silence people they disagree with. and a few days ago we saw these awful scenes on berkley's campus, violent protests against a controversial speaker. i hate this more. shouldn't we agree to protected speech no matter who is speaking. and we have with us one of the students, one of the college republicans who organized their event. mike wright is here. what's your question?
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>> as a moderate republican on campus, i, it's gotten to the point where i actually fear for my physical safety. we've had people attacked. my question is how did it get to this point? and what can reasonable people on all sides of the political spectrum do to address this problem? >> well, i'm not sure how it got to this point, but i think it has something to do with bad parenting on the left. i do, actually. but just to put myself in context here, i've been on this issue since the '90s. i did a show called "politically incorrect." i've been appalled at what's going on on campuses all over the country for a very, very long time. silencing people. safe spaces. you know, campuses have these safe spaces? which, really started out as, okay, here's a place where you don't have to worry about i don't know what, because i don't
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think campuses are that unsafe to begin with, but, okay, sure. and then they've sort of evolved into now every place is a safe place, because we just don't want our precious snowflakes to ever have to confront an opinion that is different than the one they already have. and i'm telling you, this begins with bad parenting. with telling your kids you should never undergo any moment that makes you uncomfortable in the least. parents negotiate with their kids. they're children. >> they're small, unemployed people. they have no rights. >> that's how it should be. so that may be how it started, but whatever it is, it has to be reversed. and i feel bad for you, because i'm not a republican. but yes, you should be able to be on berkley or any other campus in this country and not feel threatened and be able to speak out. and even more so, those kid the should be exposed to other ideas. liberals are not perfect. i'm the liberal who likes to say
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that. >> and i'll say it as well. but we do have another student with a different point of view. jessica chase, you are a student at ucla, you might see it different. >> yeah, as a gay, jewish person, i understand why it came up. on my campus, actually, we also were going to have myly yanoneless come speak. when you have this viewpoint being brought up, with milo yanoneless coming to the campus. and between hate speech, where it's specifically calling students out for being trans or undocumented or whatever cases come up. i'm won deshing if you think there are any lines of free speech where you think this
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would fall at all? >> obviously, there is a line. we can't fiyell, "fire" in a crowded theater. there are certain people that we shouldn't book. but we did book this fwiechlt a guy. i don't now much about him. some people have said in the last year or so, they mentioned the name and i was like, oh, i got to look into him and i didn't. i think, in general, sunlight is the best disinfectant. i think it's important to hear what people have to say and then let people decide and see how awful they are. apparently, this guy is pretty awful. but, you know -- >> you got a bigger set of concerns than just the campus. you think that the whole liberal apology around the world has gone offer the rails. so let's look at the whole bill maher thing.
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>> in 2016, republicans won the white house, both houses of congress and almost two-thirds of state legislatures and governorships. whereas, carrie fisher was caught being called beautiful in a tweet and it was maid to be maid to be taken down. when i was a young kid, carrie fish irwas the most beautiful creter i had ever seen. she turned out to be whit eye as well. >> you noted her appearance first, and then that she was whitey and bright. you're a monster. you. >> mean that's out there. it's so lazy to attack your friends who are maybe not quite as evolved as you. that's just mental. but there's lots of stuff like that, where instead of attacking
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your real enemies, you go after people who are just a little bit behind, you know, we're on the same team. you know. >> one thing to me is like you know you have people with the transgender fight has been a big part. i've been a part of that for 20 years, but if you get it wrong, somebody maybe six months ago didn't know it. they're going to come down. >> a few colleges have canceled the vagina monologues, because it wasn't feminist enough. >> how can it be more feminist than a vagina? >> not every woman who identifies as a woman has a vagina. how about caitlyn jenner? she has a penis. they see a woman forced to wear the full burkha. she can't even look out on the
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full world. that gets nothing. that doesn't rise to the level that we're protesting that, but the vagina monologues affecting caitlyn jenner? that's where we're going to go next. you lost, it would be behoove you to look in the mirror. >> i see why your show is so politically incorrect. i love it. so listen, i want you to stick around. i want the audience to get your questions ready. when we come back, i want to talk about this. how can the democrats dig their way out of this hole and whether hollywood liberals are helping the cause or hurting the cause, when we get back. moss plaus a lobster party, party like and this is the lobster party. red lobster's lobsterfest is back with 9 irresistible lobster dishes. yeah, it's a lot. try tender lobster lover's dream and see how sweet a lobster dream can be. or pick two delicious lobster tails with new lobster mix and match. the only thing more tempting than one succulent lobster tail,
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[ applause ] welcome back to "the messy truth." we're here with bill maher. it's safe to say you took the election results really, really hard. here you are after the election. >> it's tempting to want to divide america in the middle right now. i've been in the bad roommate situation where you literally got white tape and made a line through the middle of the apartment. it's something they've tried on many, many sitcoms over the years, starting with "i love lucy." lucy on one side, the sp spanish-speaking yes, ma'am gra -- immigrant on the other. she just wanted to make the living room great again. you can unfriend someone you
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don't like but you can't unfriend 47% of america. roommates can move out. patriots can't. america need the you more than ever, right here with me and the rest of the resistance. >> [cheers and applause] until we can figure out how to really make america great again, and don't ever let them forget. we're still here. >> that was an amazing show. on behalf of the country, that was an amazing show. >> made a fortune on those hats. [ laughter ] >> me montthree months later, i better than you thought, worse than you thought? where are we? >> somehow it's exactly what we thought and ten times worse, because it's not like we weren't sick of hem by tim by the time
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elected. and donald trump does not wear well. you cannot keep up with the number of crazy things he says. it's all about him throwing a fit because his daughter/wife we say daughter wife? no, christ-y he was okay with. but this one gets a yellow flag. but his daughter/wife, ivanka, had her jewelry taken out of department stores, so when's he supposed to get the intelligence briefing, he's tweeting about this. there's more than i can almost handle on a weekly basis of the crazy stuff. the stuff that's made up. the murder rate is the highest in 47 years and the press doesn't cover terrorism. this just happened since my last show. this would be enough for aentee administration. i guess there's a glimmer of hope, when he walked into the oval office, he would be
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transformed, but i don't know anybody who really thought that. >> mike sees somewhat differently. >> i love you, and i love every joke. however, the president has been in office three weeks. why can't you guys in the media and hollywood give him some slack. >> because of what he's done and said. >> he's been there only three weeks. give him a brake. >> give him a break? >> it's the toughest job on earth. >> this is beyond the realm of politics. let's just pretend it's politics. it's a giant con, what he's done. he ran for the little man, and what does he do? he get noose offi he get noos into office. and the coal companies can dump sludge into the rivers. and so many in appalachian why
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standing up, saying please get rid of rules, because if i can't make certain speculative investments, it's killing me here. this presidency is not about the political part even three weeks in. it's beyond politics. it's about sanity, about somebody who makes stuff up. who tonight read. his information is either anecdotal or pulled right out of his -- what word, reverend? his behind? we're, of course we're worried, when the president sees multitudes that don't exist, as in the illegal people sha, the illegal voting, 3 million. i'm not the crazy one here. remember, as soon as he's inaugurated. it was all about size. this guy must have a proob i
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problem in the sensitive area. he insisted we had photographs, a sean spicer goes out there saying this is what the president believes. in other words, you're on your own, folks, the president is crazy, and he says there's an easter bunny, so we're all looking for eggs. this kind of stuff, where he absolutely believes things that are not true and then backs them up and gets defiant about them. here's three words that could really calm me about the president if i ever heard him say them. "i stand corrected." . >> wow. >> do you think we'll ever hear that? that's what mature people do and presidents do. >> let me ask you a question. you are brilliant at this stuff. you have people also on the hollywood side. every awards ceremony i guarantee you will be a similar
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kind of rapts, not as smart or good, but there. do you think that little guy wants to hear all these hollywood celebrities, including you, ranting against the president? >> i don't put myself in that category. my business is talking politics. >> you're different. >> i'm not an actor who does this for a living and dabbles in this. >> what do you think about the actors guild? >> you know, it's their right to do it. >> do you think it helps or hurts? >> i do think it hurts, probably in the long run. i can absolutely see the trump voter out there say, you know what, gwyneth paltrow, our lives are so much alike. but you'll excuse me while i'm putting on your $120 a jar face cream if i don't follow you word for word on politics. celebrities with notable exceptions are blithering idiots. their talent is in the emotional
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areas the dramatic area. but sometimes they can sound dumb when they're asked to comment on stuff that requires, you know, book learnin'. and reading and stuff like that. and they just repeat clichés and talking points and stuff. you know, there are some other ones who are absolutely brilliant and i love hearing them. i love hearing barbra streisand or alec baldwin or clooney, these are news junkies, these are smart people. everybody should be allowed to talk. first amendment. >> i want to get right back to you on this. but i drove out to san bernardino to meet with some people who live in a town that's actually been impacted by the news. impacted by a real terror attack, and i wanted to know what they thought about the travel ban. you might be surprised what they think, when they get back. when you hear about the ban, you hear it more as a muslim ban? or as a travel ban? >> my opinion is a muslim ban. it's strictly directed at
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[ applause ] welcome back to "messy truth." i am here with my special guest, bill maher. i want to go back and talk about the travel ban, but from a different point of view. i drove out to san bernardino, and that's a city as you know that was rocked by this brutal prop terror attack. it's like the west coast ground zero. what do they think about the ban? check it out. ♪ san bernardino, california. in december of 2015, this city was the site of an unspeakable horror. it started here at the inland regional center. two terrorists, husband and
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wife, killed 14 people and wound wounded 22. it ended hours later on this stretch of road with a shootout with law enforcement that left boast terrorists dead. the attack was inspired by isis. five days later -- >> donald j. trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states. >> and 14 months after that, president trump issued his controversial executive order. so the trump administration has been using this attack that happened right here in san bernardino to justify the travel ban. i'm here to find out what do the people who actually live here think about that. i want to know, what do local muslim military members have to say about all this. >> i serve in the marine corps. >> i served in the united states marine corps from 1985 to 1989. >> i am a commissioned officer. united states army and currently with the national guard.
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>> when you hear about the ban, do you hear it more as a muslim ban or as a travel ban? >> my opinion it is a muslim ban. it is strictly directed at preventing a certain type of people, in this particular case, muslims, from coming to the state. >> he's pretty much making good on his, on his promise to, i guess, rid this country of muslims. i mean, that's the way i see it. >> i'm going to take a different point of view. obama did have a very similar vetting process, so donald trump, who is our commander in chief, he is basically doing a 90-day travel ban. and it has to do with some internal conflicts that the countries are going through. i think it's really important for us to work together as a
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nation, though, and stay united. >> you're an active soldier, a muslim, a woman. >> right. >> do you think there's any danger, regardless of what the intention is, that when you put a travel ban like this in place, that there may be some blow back that the military has to worry about? >> absolutely. it is unfortunately, an actual that will be used for isis for recruitment. they're saying, you're not welcome in the united states. and if you're not welcome here, it goes back to human nature, to basic human psychology. you go quote, unquote, where the love is. >> with isis. >> absolutely. and that's what's really heartbreaking. and that's something that the commander in chief and his cabinet need to really focus upon. >> i really don't see it as a situation where we're, you know, people are going to say america's not going to let me in, so all of a sudden, i'm going to sim pa thied with isis.
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i don't think that's problem. the problem is we're not acting like america. that's real problem. that's not america that i fought for. that's not the america that my forefathers helped build. that's not america. that's the real problem. >> it's so amazing. those are three different people, all muslim. one's latino, one's black, one's pakistani, i believe. they all had completely different opinions. wh when we talk about muslims, what are we talking about? >> the scariest thing i heard there was the woman said they'll go where the love is. go where the love is? when the love is isis? that should be frightening to everybody. go where the love is, valentine's day is coming up, the guy with the biggest teddy bear, but to go to a group that throws gay people off roofs and has sex slaves and believes in raping them into -- >> what do you think about the refugees? you're describing something horrible.
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everybody agrees with you, united states's also been bombing the crap out of that region. we want to get out of here, we want to come to the united states. we believe more tllike you. >> i believe in the traditional american approach to refugees. yea we're a humanitarian country. we have always let a certain number of people who were going to get killed if they stayed where they were in the world. but it can't be that we completely empty out the middle east. that's sort of what they started to do in germany last year. angela merkel let in 1 million, i think, refugees from syria. that is not a practical policy. let me just finish. if you don't mind. i can see you jumping in. what they should have done in my view, is with that many people, create refugee centers, train them, turn them into an army so they could take over their own countries. one of the problems i have -- worries, i should say -- with
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islam, is that the moderates don't win. when was the last time the moderates got a victory? we got to create a moderate muslim army that can go back into those countries and, and take on isis, because i hear a lot of people joining isis. i never heard of one person going oh, let me go there and fight isis. >> i tell you what. we need more creative thinking like that. we also, fortunately, we do have a bunch of muslims who have taken the fight to the enemy, and i want to go out in the audience and talk to one. this is an incredible story, and i want to get your, even you are going to be moved, touched, inspired. >> what do you mean "even me." >> just because, you know, sometimes you, you got to understand what's happening with these guys. so listen, here's the deal. >> i do. >> yeah, you are friends now. but you didn't know each other even just a few weeks ago. >> yes. >> i want you to tell the story.
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how is it that you decided to go to the airport >> you're a veteran. >> i am, yes. had nothing to do with the policy. fortunately raised by liberal parents and instilled a strong value system. in this case when you seeing? that's not right, you have a moral obligation to do something. as father i wanted to instill the same values. that's what got me to the airport. do i disagree with the order? absolutely. that's what brought me there. >> talk about the gift you gave to your friend. >> i gave him one of the purple hearts i was awarded in combat. thanks. >> what did it mean to you, arriving, somebody who has helped america, was a translator and helper for our forces in baghdad, your wife is coming to the united states, she's
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detained at the airport, what does it mean for a veteran to come and give you his purple heart on a day like that? >> his purple heart meant to me that right now we are coming to a movement, a movement in our country that's so strong, and so powerful, that a wounded warrior decided to give his medal to a complete stranger, regardless of the bans and all the orders happening right now. look we have a lot of political contention right now going on, but on different level, on the level of people, there is another message, a message of unity as opposed to being divided. >> and the take-away i want, the message i want -- we left the airport, my family and i with nothing but positive feelings and instilled in my kids and
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myself, one random act of kindness can make a difference. if people leave today, that's the message. >> nothing messy about that truth. thank you. i know you love stuff like that. >> van if this doesn't work out, go up against ellen, feel-good stories for the housewives. >> i know these are tough issues and you and i agree a lot on the need to be tough on the fundamentals and liberals can be too knock-kneed about standing up. somebody concerned about the bad part of islam has to be excited about the good part of islam. >> the messier truth is there is connecting tissue. that's the problem. of course the vast majority of muslims in the world not terrorists or violence or want
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to use violence but not that small that group of people who don't cheer. you make a face but it's the truth. i don't know why you make a face. >> it's called a smile. >> you went -- >> i think look at monitor. >> shot up the charlie hedbo office because of the cartoons, vast majority wouldn't do that but what percentage do you think thought they had it coming and right thing to do. more than i'm comfortable and anybody should be. >> i want you to stick around, have more bill maher when "the messy truth" returns after this. don't just eat. ♪ mangia! bertolli. don't pay hundreds more for taxes and fees on your wireless bill.
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welcome back to "the messy truth," i'm van jones with my guest bill maher. this week cnn is premiering this original series called "the history of comedy." we've got a great look at the great, great, great george carlin and the infamous seven words you can't say on television. >> i don't have a lot of heroes but that guy with one of them. when he died hotel he was booked at in vegas called me and said you should do this gig. something i'm more proud of than anything. there's a guy who talked about
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religion before lot of other comics did. really got a lot of my oh, i can do that too from watching him. the way he did from lenny bruce. also he was one of the few who would -- equal opportunity. also had lots of things to say to the liberals. wasn't just liberal hiny kisser like most comics are. he would absolutely say things that would make liberals really stand up. and yeah he was a liberal as i am, but he just always cleaved to this is what is true, and i don't care what -- the older he got, of course the crankier, which was great because then he went full out. only now just showed the special he made right after 9/11 that was deemed even for carlin fans, this is going to be too much. >> you are giving him a lot of credit. i want to give you a lot of
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credit. you got a lot of people through the bush years frankly. now you've got the trump years -- >> the bush years, i wish -- i gave -- his pac a million dollars, would happily give that to mitt romney if he would take over the country. i gave it to prevent mitt romney to be president. now begging him. i will become a mormon, how about that? and give you $1 million mitt romney if you will please take over the country. >> thank you for that especially and everything else, incredible stuff you're doing. >> you're doing great. great to see you on. america needed you van jones. >> thank you. thank my guest, studio audience and everybody watching at home. see more of bill maher on "real
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time" on hbo. had a great conversation. now it's your turn. keep talking at homes, dinner tables, campuses. we'll see you next time. cnn exclusive, new information tonight about the russia dossier, compiled by former british intelligence agent. this is "cnn tonight," i'm don lemon, thanks for joining us, national security adviser michael flynn is under fire tonight. confirmed did talk about sanctions with russia despite earlier denials. meanwhile president donald trump on air force one says this about his travel ban. >> we'll win that battle, have a lot of other options inclung
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