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topping this hour of 360, we have breaking news in the fallout of michael flynn's departure and reportedly constant contact between trump advisers and russian contacts. general flynn's history appears to be off the hook with the fbi for now. jim sciutto joins us with the latest. what do you know, jim? >> for the time being barring new information the fbi has decided they're not change to charge michael flynn for the calls. the fbi telling evan perez flynn has been forthcoming and truthful with the conversations, and while he might not remember all the details, they did not
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believe he was being intentionally misleading. and that led them to decide for the time being not to pursue charges against him. >> what are you learning about his access to classified material? his clearance has been taken away? >> his access to classified information has been taken away. a difference between losing clearance, it's sus spended. i'm told this is a standard practice when questions are raised about someone's compliance. it could be reinstated at a later time. it shows the seriousness with which the intelligence community is treating these remaining questions here. i'm told this by an official from the defense intelligence agency. it's the dia he used to head now having his access to classified information sus spended for the time being. breaking news out of the
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vice president's office. he's focussed on getting to the bottom of how he was misled. and saying the vice president wants to know which advisers made the decision to inform the president but not the vice president. that said the source saying there's no fallingout about this between the president and vice president. as mr. trump's take, here's what he said today. >> general flynn is a wonderful man. i think he's been treated very unfairly by the media. as i call it, the fake media in many cases, and i think it's really a sad thing that he was treated so badly. >> we should point out it was the reporting of that media which led the president to fire general flynn for reasons which he has not, himself, yet explained. that's virtually all he said along with attacking leakers on twitter. let's bring in general mark hurtling, and julia kiam, and
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steven hall. julia, i don't quite get it. how do you go from asking for a resignation because they had illegal conversations with russia or because they lied about it to the vice president and others in the white house to the next day saying he's a wonderful man and basically the dishonest media is treating him terribly. >> yeah. it was sort of jaw dropper this morning during that press conference. i thought that the white house had the story straight. they had gone back and forth about whether flynn had been fired or whether he resigned. and they made it sound like he'd been fired. so when trump started defending him this morning, either he didn't remember that was the narrative or that because investigations as i believe are still ongoing, that trump is bringing his team close, because we really don't know at this stage where all of these investigations end, and in particular because of the new york time's reporting saying
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there's continuing investigation about the ongoing yearlong conversations between trump's team and russian intelligence. >> well, and the third explanation is he wants to keep general flynn relatively close or at least on his team because in case general flynn is testifying or has information that the president doesn't want other people to know. general hurtling, this argument that the he was brought down by leaks misses the forest for the trees. flynn wasn't brought down by leaks. he was brought down by lying. >> yeah. anderson, leadership is hard. i've had to practice leadership a lot through my military career. you have to make a lot of hard calls when you're a leader. and sometimes one of the hard calls you make is relieving people. and sometimes it's very integrity violations. but when you do that, you don't blame others. that's the example of a toxic leader. now, are leaks bad?
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certainly they are. but the leaks didn't cause mike flynn to have an integrity violation. mike flynn lost trust with many people, and therefore, he was relieved. and for mr. trump to come back later and say he's a great guy and it was the leaks that caused him to be dismissed, it's an example of toxic leadership. and it's somewhat sad. i wish jeffrey lord was on right now. peggy newnan wrote a book called when character was king about the reagan administration. character determines leadership. we've got some flawed character, i think, currently in the president of the united states. >> steve, the president claiming the leaks are coming from people trying to cover up for clinton's loss. i'm sure you know from your time in the intelligence community, people leak for a lot of reasons, but at times it's to alert the public that something is going on. >> i have to say, anderson, in
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my time in the intelligence community, the leaking, it's more political sport. i think that there might be a unique situation here whereby when you begin your work with the agency, you take an oath of office, and the oath that you take is to protect the constitution against enemies, domestic and abroad, and that's a moral obligation, and of course you have legal obligations as well. i can imagine there might be people in the intelligence community who have such serious questions about the administration's connections to russia to a whole bunch of other troubling issues that they might find themselves in a really difficult position and say to themselves, you know, i might have to act on my morals on this one and be prepared to bear the brunt of the legal consequences if i get caught. i don't know that for sure, but it would be a difficult position to find one's self in. >> what would russia -- what are the questions you would like answered about these
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communications between report e of the communications between the trump campaign and russians? >> well, obviously it would be great to see the transcripts of whatever collection has happened, because in my mind it's difficult for me to imagine why, and again, i'm talking about the connections between the trump campaign and russian intelligence officers last year. it's difficult to imagine why any member of any campaign would want to be in touch with intelligence officers, especially of an adversary nation like russia. >> i think it's not clear if they were in touch with intelligence officers. my understanding with russians known to u.s. officials or to u.s. intelligence. to me, that -- there's a gray area there. >> yeah. i've sort of seen both sides of it. there may be some shorthand of the intention community when you say russians known to the intelligence community. it usually means there's some sort of interest in the russians and more than likely they're senior or intelligence officers themselves.
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>> general hurtling, what do you make of that sort of part of this and the investigation into that? >> i think right now you're seeing mr. putin and the entire russian government push themselves. we're seeing that in various activity, not only in europe but with events off of our shores. so i think, yeah, there's some problems there. anderson, when i traveled in europe as a commander, there were some countries we didn't take computers or phones into because we didn't know who agents were or when and how they were collecting. it was better to be careful. this whole thing with what occurred over the last several weeks baffles me. i just don't understand how a guy who knows a lot about intelligence allowed this to happen. >> julia? >> i would totally agree with that. and i think i don't know if it was just sloppiness that we've seen. mar-a-lago is a perfect example. they're not treating classified
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information in the way we should demand at this stage. they're in charge. he's our president, and there's a reason why we have things like skiffs and why we keep information classified, and i think that the other question that remains that i raised yesterday is what kind of advice was going on between flynn and trump's team so that vice president pence would not know? vice president pence as you reported is clearly interested in who -- why didn't he know this information about flynn? and so a lot of focus in my circles in the legal and national security community is now on someone we don't talk a lot about, the white house council. i anticipate you'll hear more about him in the days to come. >> and the fact that the vice president discovered he was lied from the media donald trump is constantly criticizing. plenty for ahead. more breaking news on the congressional, and the
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democrat taking. community chairman chuck grassley and feinstein asking for documents and briefing on the case. where this leads is anybody's guess. which also was said about many investigations that began in one place only the end up worlds away. more on that. >> i have felt it was my duty to pers sere. >> reporter: it spelled the end of a presidency. >> i shall resign the presidency effective at noon. >> reporter: and it started with
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the a burglary portrayed in this film "all the president's men". washington post reporters bob woodward followed a money trail from the democratic party break in to the committee to reelect president nixon. a discovery of taped conversations in the oval office. you open that scab there's a lot of things we. >> reporter: it revealed nixon helped orchestrate a coverup six days after the water gate burglary. bill clinton's presidency was nearly undone by an investigation into a land deal. >> we were assigned a difficult job. >> reporter: ken star, a staunch republican eventually headed it up, and during his investigation, a former white house staffer, linda trip, decided to give him her secretly recorded phone conversations with a former white house
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intern, monica lewinsky. >> if i have to have an affair with a married man again, shoot me. >> reporter: when she testified in a case brought by paula jones. >> he said this is the wrong number. >> reporter: he lied under oath, denying sexual contact with lewinsky. >> i did not have sexual relations with that woman. >> reporter: the jones case was ultimately dismissed. the white water probe yielded nothing. congress impeached bill clinton for obstructing justice though he was acquitted. and more recently. >> what difference at this point does it make? >> reporter: an investigation by congressional republicans into secretary of state hillary clinton's role in the libya attack that killed a u.s. ambassador led to a troubling discovery that helped derail her bid for the white house. as secretary, she used a personal e-mail account, hosted
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on a computer server she kept in her basement. >> the server will remain private. >> reporter: the fbi launched an investigation and took possession of the server which had been wiped. >> with a cloth or something? no. >> reporter: lawsuits led to the release of clinton's e-mails as voters doubted her trustworthiness. in summer 2016, james comey announced he would not recommend criminal charges but chastised clinton on her team. >> there is evidence they were extremely careless in their handling of classified information. >> reporter: comey opened the investigation before the election after e-mails were discovered in the fbi's investigation of huma abedin's husband. the case was closed, but many argue it was responsible for clinton's loss. >> thank you very much. the panel is back.
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joining us also is jeffrey tuben. jeff, congressional and criminal investigations very different things. >> they are very different things, but one thing to keep in mind is that when nixon was forced out of office, when clinton was impeached, congress, the house of representatives, was in control of the opposition party. and here republicans control the house of representatives. and they are not inclined to investigate donald trump, and you see that throughout these three weeks that we have seen, and i think that's a major distinction that will help trump. >> it sounds the senate is more willing to look into it than house republicans. >> well, not to be too cynical or uncynical. there's a lot to look into here. i mean, the russians may have controlled or attempted to control the outcome of this election with the involvement of the trump campaign. that's a pretty big deal. i think there's some patriots in
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the senate of both parties who think this is worth looking into and that's what they're doing. >> the president is focusing on leaks. are all leaks illegal? >> no. it is illegal to leak classified information. it's illegal to leak grand jury material before a grand jury. but most of what reporters get is confidential in an employment setting but like who's up and who's down in the white house and who likes whom, that you can get fired for. that's a violation of confidence. confidences, but it's not illegal. >> karl bernstein, we saw you in the earlier piece. obviously as you said in the last hour, you worry about comparing this to water gate. there's so much we don't know at this point. in terms of a congressional investigation, water gate is a an example of a separate committee of looking into it. republicans are resistant to that right now. >> not only was it a select
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committee of both parties but the american system worked in water gate and republicans ought to welcome a real investigation of what happened in the campaign involving the russians. if there is an innocent explanation for all of this, what did the president and when did he know it as was said during the water gate investigation, they should welcome such an investigation, because we need to find out what happened. and the great thing that occurred in water gate was this bipartisanship, the key votes for impeachment came in the house judiciary committee came from courageous republicans. it was barry goldwater, the nominee of his the republican peat to be president in 1964 who marched to the white house and told richard nixon he had to resign. all i'm suggesting here is we need republicans to be as jeff said, patriots. find out what happened. if all is in order, that's great
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for everybody, but we need to find out, and we need republicans to join with democrats and say we want the truth. >> mary katherine? >> i think it's possible to hold two ideas in your head at the same time. that's to be concerned about what went down in the campaign and the connections with russia and to be concerned about the deep state of the intelligence community feeling emboldened to make what seems like a coordinated leak campaign against the white house. those are two things to be worried about at the same time, and i am. i would love to get to the bottom of it. what concerns me is if you do the investigation and so much of the information is classified, because it become illuminating to the public, or do we continue to see leaks from the either side trying to figure out what's going on? i am concerned this does not become illuminating in the end, even though it needs to be investigated. >> i think a lot of people are trying to have the conversation
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about being concerned about the intelligence community. i think under normal circumstances i would say yes. the difference is what is their motivation, and they are under attack by the president of the united states. i think in a pretty serious way. and so they have an interest i think in preserving something they think is very important. they see themselves as protecting the united states, and so that's not a terrible motivation, and they also see that the president didn't know about this, and he wasn't going to do anything about it. he was -- >> i'm not sure -- >> only because it was leaked to the media. >> i'm not sure that the leaking campaign shores up with the american people the idea they're doing the job they should be doing. i think that might be a miscalculati miscalculation. >> leaks come from a lot of places. not just the intelligence community. a lot of folks around the president, i imagine leak as well. >> the thought occurs that somebody is in essence, tapping the president's phone, or using perhaps american intelligence to eavesdrop on their own
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president, and then -- >> wait. where do we see that? >> what? >> breitbart reported that. >> i saw it, a former nsa guy today suggesting that was a possibility. >> is that legal? >> i mean, i'm not saying it happened. >> there's no evidence that's happened. >> i'm not saying that it has happened, but i'm just saying this whole business of as you refer to it the deep state, that is concerning. we doesn't make any difference who is the president, you can't have a government in open rebellion. >> are you more concerned about leaks or russian's involvement in hacking? >> i am concerned about the leaks. >> really? >> really. i think -- i am concerned that the intelligence community and other parts of the bureaucracy with nothing to do with intelligence are in varying stages of open rebellion. >> to so leaks is a bigger deal than leaks from russia about conversations in the dnc or conversations issue -- >> yeah. i think so.
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it concerns me that we would have part of the american government in rebellion against the head of the american government. >> is it hypocritical for donald trump to embrace wikileaks during the campaign and say loves wikileaks and now be complaining about leaks? >> maybe you got me there. but seriously, i mean, this is an institutional problem for the presidency. and they've got to resolve it. >> it's a problem he created. let's be honest. >> jeffrey, as one that's been involved in the reporting, let me say you have a circum striped view of how this story has developed and the sources. we need to look at the people in the white house who know things about this. we need to look at people in the intelligence community, in the congress of the united states, private investigators. there's all kinds of people and campaign aides. don't think this is some kind of coupe by the intelligence
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with the revelation that high level advisers were in constant communications with russians the issue of the president's tax returns becomes more critical. karl bernstein reported earlier. the tax returns could answer a lot of questions. he's not releasing them. congress could make it happen. phil mattingly explains how. >> the only one who cares about my tax returns are the reporters. >> tax returns. >> reporter: donald trump's tax returns. >> people didn't care. >> reporter: aren't going to be released any time soon. >> let me make this clear. most americans are very focussed on what their tax returns will look like while president trump is in office, not what his look like. >> reporter: but even as trump's
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staff sticks to the line they won't be released until the completion of an audit, there is a way they could become public. >> all i'm trying to do in the congress what the president couldn't do for himself, and that is give us his tax returns. >> reporter: here's how it would work. who committees in congress have jurisdiction over tax issues. the chairman of those committees through a 1924 law have the ability to obtain any american's tax returns. including donald trump. and they have the power to reveal that tax information for any american. including donald trump. it's been done before. when it was decided for the public good that lawmakers would vote to release a staff report about then president richard nixon's tax information, and that according to a congressman is the same reason he believes the committee should pursue releasing trump's taxes now. >> the american people are on
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the right path. i'm just a conduit to get the information out to the american people. they deserve to know this. they deserve to know if their president is dealing in the foreign affairs of other countries and whether other countries are dealing in our foreign affairs. and if you don't think i'm talking about russia, you're wrong. >> but at least for the moment, it's unlikely to happen. here's why. it's democrats who are clamoring to use this power. and democrats don't control anything on capitol hill. >> that law directs us to look at tax administration. the only look at private tax returns in the case of the tax administration. that is clearly not the case here. >> reporter: congress kevin brady chairs a house weighs and means committee. >> if you let congress begin rummaging around for political purposes in the tax returns of the president, what stops them from doing it to everyday
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americans? that would be an abuse of power. >> reporter: brady's point, despite trump breaking years of precedent, there is no specific administrative reason that would force the committee to act. until that arises, don't expect congress to provide any more incite than trump has up to this point. >> it's none of your plan a. he's in this for the long term and believes that every time a a new revelation comes up in relation to his relationship with donald trump that that could help build support. he said he's been talking to members on both sides of the aisle. and the senate committee has the power to do this. he's been talking to them. he recognizes it is a long path forward and as i noted in the piece. chairman brady makes clear he
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does not believe this lines up with the intent of the law, and until that changes, it's unlikely at least on the house side of things it's going to change any time soon. >> phil, thank you very much. joining me is robert reich. and with us also jeffrey lord. secretary reich, is this a step that congress should take trying to obtain the president's tax returns? >> i think it's an important step the congress should take, and in terms of it being anne a administrative matter. imagine a more important one than making sure the president has not been engaged with a foreign power, in this case, russia, in basically loading the election, and turning the election to his favor. now, i'm not saying he's done that. but a lot of evidence is accumulating, anderson, and every day that goes by, the distrust of the public grows. i think one important step that
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donald trump has to make is to disclose his taxes. in 2008 donald trump junior told a real estate conference that russian money is pouring into the donald trump organization. and that a disproportionate cross section of their assets come from russia. he was talking about russian tycoons. that's important information. that would show up in the tax returns, because you can see in terms of interest on loans, exactly who is -- who trump is -- i can't imagine a more important set of issues. >> i understood he was referring to a rich russian guy who bought a mansion from the trumps in florida. and paid a huge amount of money. we don't know for sure because we don't know the extent of any business dealings. >> we need to know.
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if there were just an idle question about ton wouldn't it be nice, it's too bad donald trump violated and broke the tradition for 40 years, that would be one thing, but we are in the middle of a potential constitutional crisis. there's possibly treason behavior working with russian operatives to interfere in the presidential election on behalf of donald trump. >> jeffrey? >> no. there's two words for this. it's called fishing expedition. the reason to release the taxes is so they can plow through them and say oh, look at this, and then maybe we should have an investigation here, maybe we should have an investigation here. i have said as you know, all along, he should never release his taxes. i think we've gotten off the mark with public officials releasing taxes.
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most of the presidents never released their taxes, and the country survived fine. i think we should get back to it. they have a right to privacy. leave them alone. >> given all the questions raised about russia, even with that? >> if you want to investigate the russian thing, then let's do it. let's investigate the intelligence community, the leaks, the whole nine yards. let's go in that direction, but i think his taxes, i mean -- >> why wouldn't you have an investigation -- >> let me -- >> i think it is very difficult right now for the american public to rely on the senate intelligence committee which is dominated by republicans, or even rely necessarily on the fbi which reports to the new attorney general jeff sessions who was a key player in donald trump's election. and campaign. what you need to do is if a bipartisan investigation, part of that investigation has got to be to look at donald trump's taxes. >> mr. secretary, i just don't
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think this is very productive. and this sets a horrible precedent. why should we be going into anybody's taxes? >> what could be more product i have than to make sure our system of elections in 2016, our presidential elections -- >> the economy back on gear. i mean, i think all those things. earlier we played clips of various people including donald trump saying people didn't care. the only people who seem to care about that, i think the president is right, is the media and his opponents. >> wait a minute. this makes no sense. if you say -- first of all the assertion that the people don't seem to care is an assertion, and right now -- >> he's president of the united states. he's elected. >> if the people are getting more and more information that donald trump's aides and people who were in his campaign were in continuous contact with russian operatives at a time when we know russians were intervening
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with the election on trump's behave, americans have an interest on what is going on. there is nothing more sacred than our election process. >> couldn't donald trump alleviate all of this by saying here are the contacts the people had. here are the phone conversations. here are the russians -- >> sure. i mean, the implication here, the sinister implication is he was conspireing with the russians. >> we don't know the implication. why not come forward and say -- >> i think as i see the stories developing and listening. >> why not come forward and say here are the contacts had. >> i don't think it's that big a deal. >> wait a minute. first of all, we -- >> let's investigate. let's get all the intelligence stuff out there on the table. >> some of us actually remember richard nixon and a three bit two bit burglary in the water gate complex. the coverup was almost worse
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than the crime. >> i'm glad you mentioned it. >> the question everybody asked is what did nixon know and when. everybody is now asking what did trump know and when. >> robert, jeffrey as well, thank you. the president's pick for labor secretary is out. a closer look at why he withdrew next. i realize that ah, that $100k is not exactly a fortune. well, a 103 yeah, 103. well, let me ask you guys. how long did it take you two to save that? a long time.
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president trump's pick for labor of secretary withdrawn his nomination. he came under criticism for allegations of abusing his wife. >> andy puzder would have made a good labor secretary. he has the experience and background to do that. i respect his decision, however. i understand it. >> reporter: andrew puzder's liabilities began to pile up with criticism over his record running a fast food record but also baggage from the past like his hiring of an undocumented immigrant as a housekeeper. and a newly unearthed decade long time where puzder's ex-wife alleges he was abused when they
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were married. it shows his ex-wife in disguise talking act her allegations. >> but that was the most frightening thing was leaving. once i made that break and once i made it public and remember my ex-husband was a public figure, everyone knew him, and knew what he was doing. once i made that public, he vowed revenge. he said i will see you in the gutter. this will never be over. you will pay for this. >> senators privately reviewed the tape and some were alarmed. >> reporter: you saw the oprah video. what did you think of that? >> i think it's troubling. >> reporter: but some came to his defense noting she long ago dropped her abuse allegations. and in a letter obtained by cnn she told senators he's not abusive of violent and he's a good, loving, kind man. she said she only appeared on the oprah show to get a, quote, free trip to chicago. one woman on the show had a
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different take. >> i don't think it was to get a free trip to chicago. you go in, stay in a hotel, go to the studio and leave. i just -- i don't believe that at all. >> reporter: but republicans believe that the bigger problem was his hiring of an undocumented immigrant. >> here's a guy who ran a business that had tens of thousands of employees while he was running it and apparently no problem there, but one employee that gets paid to help you at the house and you don't ask the right question and suddenly you have the same problem that other people have had. >> reporter: now, the real problem for andy puzder was the math. the senate there are 52 republican senators but four privately told the republican leadership they would vote no, and there were concerns that up to 12 could vote no. also redistance from other trump nominees. pruitt, one republican senator,
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we've been reporting on passports in the shadows. an investigation. we found passports and visas allegedly sold through the venezuelaen authorities. and they. reporting got a lot of attention. not everyone wants it to be seen. today all cable providers were ordered to take our sister network off the air immediately. drew griffin joins me with the latest. what led them to do this? >> anderson, this has been brewing since sunday when venezuelaen president said he wanted people out of the country. today the foreign minister accused cnn of performing what she called an imperialist media
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operation. later this morning venezuela's national telecommunications commission told them to pull cnn immediately. accusing cnn of slander saying our story threatened the democratic stability of the venezuelaen meme. >> is that the first time it's happened? >> yes. the government has threatened cnn in the past. this is the first time it's ordered the network to be kicked off the year. the investigation must have struck a nerve. we found the passports and visas were allegedly sold in iraq. and u.s. lawmakers have known about venezuelaens issuing the passports for people at least a decade. >> and what's been the response? >> cnn us pan yoel put out a statement. in part, this is what the statement reads. cnn will continue to fulfill the
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responsibility to the venezuelaen public by offering a live signal free of charge and online so people may have access to information not available to them in any other way. anderson, our story is accurate. instead the officials yanked cnn off the air. >> we welcome any venezuelaen officials to defend it. tonight a colorado mother of four is spending the night in a church after getting news she was dreading. she's an undocumented immigrant. her battle came to a head this morning. we have the latest. >> demonstrators in colorado supporting a mother of four from mexico. unlike other check ins her
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attorney sprd without her. >> we're going to talk to immigration. >> reporter: she chose not to show up. instead taking refuge inside a >> they denied her stay. >> reporter: her request for a straer stay denied, despite six previous stays that were granted. she first speechless, then in tears. her nightmare coming true. we talked with her prior to the check-in about her fear. >> it's difficult. my kids are my life. my family is my life. where's my country, where's my house? it's the house of my kids. it's the country of my kids.
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>> so, this is your home, this country. >> yes, it's my home. i'm living here than my country. >> reporter: she came to the u.s. in 1997. she has three children ages 6, 10 and 12 who are citizens born in the u.s. her oldest tanya is 26 with three children of her own. she has legal status through daca an obama administration policy that protects youth from deportation. >> she's the backbone of my family. without her the kids won't know their grandma any more. >> reporter: this family's future in limbo since 2009 when she was arrested following a traffic stop. she had a fake social security number on a job application in her car. she has been fighting deportation ever since. did they give you specific reasons for denying the stay this time? >> when you have a blanket deportation policy, you don't need to have specific reasons. you just say no. and that's exactly what they
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did. >> reporter: the local i.c.e. office provided the following response saying, gentleman net ramirez from mexico has two misdemeanor convictions. on november 18, 2011, a federal immigration judge originally issued her final orders of deportation to mexico. based on these factors, she is an i.c.e. enforcement priority. the news triggering a protest in d.c., meantime colorado congressman has filed a private bill in the house of representatives, hoping to help plead her case. for now she's moved into this denver church basement, an informal sanctuary where immigration officials had dared not yet to go. she a addressed supporters through a translator this afternoon. >> translator: i know that my fight will continue even though i'm still -- even though i'm inside these walls. there is much that i can do to continue organizing and to
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continue to support my community. and by my community i don't just mean the mexican immigrant community. i don't just mean south americans. there are people all over the world that are in the exact same situation as i am. >> reporter: how long are you repaired to stay here? >> i don't know. it's possible days, months, or years. >> reporter: anna cabrera, cnn, denver. >> and we'll be right back.
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it's been quite a day but there is also this. it's called the yosemite fire fall when the sunny sun hits the horse tail fall at yosemite park
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at just the right angle this time of year. conditions have to be right. it only lasts ten minutes. what ten magnificent minutes they are. great photographer an sell adams came as a child and it so captivated his imagination, he saw what you're seeing now. you can see why he came back. he married here and kept making pictures here for seven decade. that's it for us. thanks for watching. cnn with don lemon starts now. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >> breaking news, the fbi not expecting to pursue charges against fofrmer national security advisor michael flynn over that phone call with russia's ambassador. this is cnn tonight. i'm don lemon. law enforcement officials telling cnn they don't believe flynn was intentionally misleading them. meanwhile the president ignores questions from cnn's reporters today about the news that high level advisors close to his campaign among them flynn and paul man a fort were in constant communication with russians known to u.s. te