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esprident, seemed to be flagging an incident that never happened. it's an example of all the problems that have come with not knowing the facts. did the president really put what he saw on television over what he should have been learning from his intel briefings. >> all of this this morning as the senate intelligence committee asks agencies to keep records related to russia for their hacking investigation. meantime, president trump continues his search for a new national security adviser. we're now in day 32 of the trump administration. let's begin with athena jones live in west palm beach, florida. athena, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, brooke. the president had a busy weekend at mar-a-lago, but took a break between meetings and golf outings to have that campaign rally in melbourne, florida. it was those off-hand remarks about sweden that left a whole lot of people confused,
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seemingly suggesting a terror incident occurred in sweden. >> you look at what's happening last night in sweden. sweden -- who would believe this? they took in large numbers, having problems like they never thought possible. >> reporter: the comments sparking confusion worldwide. the president later explaining it was something he saw on tv tweeting my statement to what's happening in sweden was in reference to a story broadcast on fox news concerning immigrants and sweden. that fox news report, an interview with a conservative filmmaker who accused the swedish government of covering up violent crimes committed by refugees aired the night before the president's rally. >> it was an absolute surge in both gun violence and rape in sweden once it began the open door policy. >> reporter: swede the dish officials outraged, tweeting we look forward to informing the
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u.s. administration about swedish immigration policies. the president was talking about rising crime in general and not referring to a specific incident. meanwhile vice president mike pence trying to reassure european allies of the u.s.'s support for nato. this as the senate intelligence committee tells the trump administration to preserve all records related to russia as they investigate russia meddling in the u.s. election. >> i'm afraid they're going to destroy the documents. >> reporter: fbi director james comey holding a classified briefing on russia with senators on friday. white house chief of staff reince priebus denying collusion between the trump campaign and russian operatives before the election and knocking down reports that trump aides were in constant contact with russians. >> the top levels of the intelligence community have assured me that that story is not only inaccurate, but it's grossly overstated and it was
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wrong. >> reporter: all as president trump is still searching for a new national security adviser after fire michael flynn for misleading the vice president about his communications with russian officials. the president meeting with several candidates for the job over the weekend. amid stories of dysfunction and chaos in the first month of his administration, president trump escalating his war with the media. >> i also want to speak to you without the filter of the fake news. >> reporter: suggesting on twitter the media ask the enemy of the american people. the attacks on the free press drawing sharp rebuke in politicians on both sides. >> if you want to preserve democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press. that's how dictators get started. >> reporter: the president may have more meetings with potential national security advisers here today before heading back to washington where this week he plans to unveil a
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new executive order on immigration. this as questions remain about other big campaign promises he made for day one like repealing and replacing obamacare. brooke? >> agent then nah, thank you. the government, the press, the people of sweden puzzled by president trump's suggestion that an attack unfoelgded in sweden. cnn international correspondent ivan watson is live in stockholm with more. ivan, how has the government there responded to this? >> reporter: the foreign ministry, the sweden embassy in washington reached out to the u.s. state department asking for clarification on these comments and have spoken to a spokesperson for the foreign ministry who said, well, donald trump, the u.s. president's tweet saying he was actually referring to something he saw on fox news, that kind of explains it. we're anticipating a statement soon. meanwhile, this is front page news here in the newspapers here in sweden, pictures of donald trump and questions about why he
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made this statement about sweden or in this tabloid why he attacked sweden. there were a lot of questions after his initial statement, people looking for some kind of incident that could have taken place. when you look at the police blotters here, yes, police in stockholm friday night before the speech, they did stop someone drunk driving in town. they had a police chase here in stockholm. another humorous story about a moose getting very intimate with a wooden moose in this town. this has led to an awful lot of mockery and jokes online with #swedenincident and #lastnightinsweden. people putting up photos of swedish meatballs, the swedish chef from the muppets, suggesting he could have been a terrorist attacker. it's been room for jokes like that. there's also been more serious tweets from the former prime
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minister of this country, carl bilt asking what has he been smoking. questions ab bond. >> ivan, please let us know what you're able to develop about people feel about their reality with refugees, what it means for crime and society. a great reporter there. joining us, republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois, serves on the house foreign affairs committee, also an air force veteran. good to see you, congressman, how are you doing? >> good. how are you? >> so how do you feel about what the president said about sweden? the facts don't meet up with his urgency. what did you take from it? >> it's obviously embarrassing, it shouldn't have been said. it builds into the narrative about the emotion of the moment than it is about his security briefings and that's something
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he's been criticized for. really though in the broad scheme of things, it's an embarrassing moment. on the broad scheme of things this isn't a huge international incident. i don't think it will lead to a break off of diplomatic relations. i think the narrative of the president, he's got to be more caged with his words and words do have an impact. >> sore other words that could have an impact. what do you make of the fact that my checking of sweden and proving what the actual facts on the ground there will probably be met with the idea that i am fake news and an enemy of the american people? how do you like that sentiment? is that what the president should be telling people? >> i don't like that. truth matters. everyone can see truth. a liberal will see things one way, a conservative another way. if a sky is orange, a pilot may see a beautiful sky, a ship
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captain may see a threatening sky, but it's still truth. when we begin to say only believe with the truth that comports with your world view, that's dangerous. i think it's one thing to have an additional question with the press. politicians, if they feel like the press is being biased and they should be able to call that out. it's totally different to say a news story is all fake news, it's not real. i think that leads down a very dangerous path. that path is only believe the truth that feels good to you. for me, i think it's one thing to have an additional relationship. it's another thing to say the press is lying all the time. >> are you worried that, if you often enough say things that criticize or disagree with the president, he is going to take to twitter and give you a thumping that will compromise your political future? >> no, i don't worry. i support him in a lot of areas. besides some of the words, the foreign policy that's comes out is strong. i think as a conservative republican we're excited about the agenda going forward. i was hired, i was elected to
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represent 700,000 people and represent my country, not my party. i'm a republican because of what i believe but not because i have some allegiance to republicanism. i'll continue to do what i think is right. the consequences will lay themselves out. at the end of the day when i'm done with this job, i can look in the mirror and smile i hope. >> do you think any new executive order that comes out this week should be more than just a temporary band should have actual extreme vetting procedures that are new to keep us more safe in it? >> no. i'm going to leave that to the president. he does have a lot of leverage here. the idea of looking at vetting procedures, i would expect any new administration to come in and do this. when i was critical of this is when green card hold rs were brought in, folks who were translators for our military were brought in. i question why iraq is on the list.
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they're our biggest ally in the war against isis. they have some of the strongest vetting procedures because we built that after the invasion. we put in strong vetting procedures. i hope they're not on the new executive order, but it sounds like they may be. >> mike flynn. do you have concerns, and there are five different congressional panels looking into connections between the administration or campaign and russia. do you have concerns that mike flynn was made a scapegoat to kind of own any russia intrigue in the white house, because the more the facts come out, i don't know that it's that clear why he was forced to resign. what's your take? >> i was confused a little bit when i thought -- as i said, i the coverup is more than the -- i don't know if it would have been illegal. the coverup is what seems worse. i don't know how broad this goes or anything like that. i do know we need answers.
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i know it's important for the house intel committee who said they're going to do it, the senate intel committee, to use their classified settings to get to the bottom of this. we know the edict has been put out to preserve all communications with regards to this. i don't want to make this a highly partisan issue because it becometion just that, a partisan issue, where it's hard to get to the truth of. it's important for the intel committees to get to the bottom of this. it will either exonerate what's going on and say there are no deep ties or we'll find out more. i think that's where the patience comes in and we'll see. >> how do you explain the president's -- his tendency to shelter russia from criticism? he didn't want to stay what the intelligence community was making plain about connections to the hacks. he didn't want to say what is made plain by most of the international community about russia's connection to the separatists in ukraine, and it goes on and on. even when o'reilly was talking to him about putin being a killer, o'reilly's words, the president said, well, there are
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a lot of them, what about us? what do you make of his desire to shelter russia in a way that is unusual in america politics? >> you know, i don't know what to make of it. i have really conflicting signals here. in the administration, the people that he has put in the administration are class acts, i think top-notch. vice president pence, mattis, all the way down, secretary of state tillerson. these are russia hawks, people who understand we can have a relationship with russia but understand we can't cross certain lines. on the other hand, his words violated that. it's confusing to me. my hope is it's just a president right now hoping to make some kind of a big deal, grand bargain as new administrations that come in do. i would hope he watches -- i think he has the opportunity to be a fantastic foreign policy president, but i think he needs to watch things like vladimir putin is on the moral equivalence of the united states because he's not. >> 700,000 people sent you to
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washington. i bet they would all want to say yes to which is a tax cut. when are you guys going to cut our taxes? it was such a big part of the campaign and it seems back burner at best and there's all this talk about the tea party pushing back on the administration's plans and ryan's plans. give us the scoop. what is the status of tax reform? >> so we want to do this right, and we're not going to rush it. we're going to do it cautiously. there is quite a bit of movement going on right now in the committees in terms of what this is going to look like. there's no doubt this is not going to be easy to do. it never is. when you think back to 1986, its took a bargain between tip o'neill and ronald reagan. look, there's concerns. we'll continue to work hard on this, to do it ride, simplify the tax code on the business and personal side and reinvigorate the economy. there's a lot of people trying to rush this process. we want to do this right, make sure it's a net huge benefit for the american people. i expect positive results by the
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time we go home in august. >> would be good to see. the sooner the better. hard work is demanded from congress. results are expected. congressman, thank you for joining us as always. >> any time. >> defense secretary james mattis made an unannounced trip to iraq, breaking with president trump on the idea that u.s. should take their oil. cnn international correspondent ben wedeman is live in istanbul with more. what did secretary mattis say? >> reporter: this was before he actually arrived in bagdad, speaking to the pool reporters who are traveling with him. he said when it comes to iraq's oil, contrary to what we heard from president trump during the campaign and after the inauguration, the united states has no designs on iraqi oil. >> all of us in america have generally paid for our gas and oil all along, and i'm sure that
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we will continue to do so in the future. we're not in iraq to seize anybody's oil. >> reporter: so this is interesting to hear from secretary mattis. yesterday he said that the press is not the enemy of the people. now he contradicts the president again say we have no designs on iraqi oil. clearly he's in iraq to discuss this on going operation to drive isis out of western mosul. what we've seen so far, fairly good progress. the iraqi military has managed to clear isis out of about a dozen villages on the outskirts of mosul. now they're focusing their efforts on the airport in the southern part of the city and, of course, u.s. troops are involved, more than 5,000 u.s. military personnel in the country as well as u.s. aircraft taking part in coalition operations against isis. brooke? >> ben, thank you very much, in
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president trump is clarifying remarks after seemingly alluding to a terror attack in sweden. here he was. >> you look at what's happening in germany, you look at what's happening last night in sweden. sweden, who would believe this? sweden, they took in large numbers, they're having problems like they never thought possible. >> that remark stirred all kinds of reaction as no major incident has happened in sweden that we could find. the country's foreign minister, carl bilt tweeted this, sweden, terror attack. what has he been smoking? questions abound. the president explaining his comment in a tweet, quote, my statement of what's happening in
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sweden is a based on a story on fox news. with that let me bring in tony cardenas of california. nice to see you. >> good morning. >> how do you feel about what the president said about sweden? >> i feel he's just instilling fear in people, he's making up stories, not even checking the facts, but he's the president of the united states. he has the biggest megaphone perhaps in the world. it's very disturbing in this democracy we have someone being so irresponsible that he's actually trying to scare the american public but also at the same time he's damaging relationships around the world. sweden, who doesn't get along with sweden? >> we had congressman kiz zinger on who said, yes, it's embarrassing. he said, yes, he would agree with you that truth matters, but it's not an international incident. how would you respond? >> if bobby joe is going to sit on the porch drinking a beer and talking to neighbors, that's one
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thing. but when the president of the united states, donald trump, says what he says, interfering with the truth, that is something that's incredibly disturbing and something we should all be not just concerned about but sooner or later maybe congress should start investigating whether or not the president of the united states is actually violating laws when he's making things up and hurting our relationships. this is -- let me tell you something, this is going to hurt our economy, and when it hurts economies, everybody is going to be feeling it. they're going to be pretty upset when they realize this doesn't need to be that way. >> what about before i move on to immigration, congressman. we know trump and his supporters love it when he is fierce and he attacks and especially when it comes down in the media. to go as far as essentially calling the enemy of the american people, carl bernstein who helped break watergate wide
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open said that language is treacherous. chris wallace said it crossed the line. how do you see snit. >> treacherous is not the right word. i think it's very dangerous. somebody should google, look at president robert f. kennedy. when he was being bombarded after the pay of pigs, he was not a happy camper when it came to the press, but even he said without the press you don't is have a democracy. you have george w. bush when the supreme court went against a decision he didn't like, he said i don't agree with them, but i respect it, and he moved on. this president of the united states is attacking everybody in every faction of our society that doesn't agree with him. he gets upset, throws a tantrum. he makes up facts. he says things that aren't true. before you know it, he's scaring the mess out of people. again, the most important thing here is this is going to hurt our economy like nothing else. he's being irresponsible and americans are going to feel it in a way that they shouldn't have to. >> on the other side, some would say he is being responsible, and especially when it comes to
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immigration. let me ask you, as you're intimately involved, being a congressman in the state of california, border issues, immigration issues. you even told a story of how you and your brother were pulled over when you graduated from college and were asked what gang you were affiliated this. this is personal to you. the department of homeland security is set to release guidelines on president trump's plans as it pertains to border and immigration issues. this isn't final, but we'll throw up on the screen exactly what he's planning, starting with expanding expedited removal of unauthorized immigrants all the way down to leaving daca intact. tightening laws on asylum seekers, unaccompanied minors. how do you view this? >> i view this as something that is his campaign promise. he's talking about religious bans in the campaign, he was talking about getting rid of every single immigrant he can
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get his hands on, et cetera. >> he's talking about with criminal backgrounds, he says. >> that's what he's saying. we've seen proof in the last week they're grabbing anybody who happens to be in the vicinity of somebody looking for a criminal. what that means is, these are sweeps. this is what this is. these are sweeps. this is something that is not going to help the economy, not help our neighborhoods or public safety. if he goes after criminals, you're right. i think if you had a vote of congress saying go after all the criminals, 435 would vote yes, absolutely. >> let's be precise on numbers. you say he's grabbing anybody. we know in these i.c.e. raids, 700 raids in the last week. of that number, 176 were non-criminals. the majority are criminals who shouldn't be in this country. >> sure, absolutely. those figures that you're looking at right now look
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appropriate and very respectful. but at the same time, i'm starting to question everything that any department puts out because this president is browbeating everybody including the departments. we tried to have a meeting with i.c.e. just this past week. we're equally duly elected federal representatives and the bottom line is they canceled that meeting over excuses. that is irresponsible. that's scary when elected officials cannot sit down and get answers to questions that we have. >> i was talking to a state senator in l.a. the week before last. he was talking to me about the fear. even though if we take the i.c.e. numbers of fact, he says that does not mean that people aren't still afraid. what are you hearing, especially the children? >> what i'm hearing is people are not sending their children to school because they're afraid. i'm hearing that people aren't going to work because they're afraid. what that's doing, that's hurting communities, hurting the
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economy, hurting americans. that's one of the things that this president just doesn't get. he doesnd understand when he does these kinds of things, american citizens are getting hurt. he thinks he's look b specifically at a particular individual or population, but he's hurting the american economy. and that's something that's unconscionable and it doesn't have to be that way. >> congressman cardenas, i appreciate you getting upp earl with us on "new day." >> my pleasure. brooke, it's such a provocative conversation. there's a debate going on right now in this country over coverage of the president. you keep hearing words matter. people will say, no, he's just taking the wrong way. even the swedish comments, he was taken out of context, he didn't mean it the way he said it. this relationship between what the president says and what he means and how we understand it, does this help him or hurt him ultimately? let's get the bottom line from the axe next.
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the president trump says a lot of extreme things, and he probably says just about all of them on purpose. does it work for him as he probably suspects, with you, critics, maybe even the media. let's get to "the bottom line" with former adviser to president obama david axelrod. words matter, to me it rings
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hollow. yeah, matters who's saying them. i believe, as you know, ax, because they get him where he wants to be politically. is he right? >> well, i think they resonate with his base for sure. the question is how large that base is and whether he's shrinking it to its ir reducible core even as he thrills his supporters with his words. i think what he did over the weekend was to try to reset the focus off some of the stumbles of the early weeks of his administration, but words do matter, particularly when you're president of the united states. you have the cabinet traveling around the world like a roving firefighting crew trying to extinguish blazes that he set with his words and some of his actions. that's not good. you have a national security council that's in disarray. that's not good. you have a president who is
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quoting conspiratorialists he hears on late night tv as if it's fact and creating international incidents as a result. that is not good. so there are real concerns about what he's saying out there. it may help him politically with his base. it's not going to expand his base. more importantly, he's not just a candidate now, chris. he's president of the united states, and the words have enormous impact all over the world. the world is looking at us with great anxiety right now. >> david, we ladd ron brownstein on earlier. he had this whole notion that the splintering on the trump base, and he says it has already begun. when you look at the timeline and you look at the things that he has said and down and maybe some of it is to distract from here and maybe he's doing this over the weekend or distract from the russia investigations, do you agree that there is a sense of perhaps a split, that maybe not all the trump base is
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all rah-rah trump? >> there's no doubt about it. there are a lot of people who voted for trump, about half his base, i would say, that were extraordinarily committed to him, enthused by him, and there are those who supported him on a partisan basis or because they had issues with his opponent. that second group is not something he should take for granted. one thing i would point out, a lot of people voted for trump because they saw washington as a place that needed to be kicked in the butt. they wanted a president who would restore a sense of order and make it work. right now, that is not the sense that is being conveyed. >> it's like are they getting what they paid for? >> on the one hand, the supreme court nomination, some of these executive orders will be pleasing to conservatives, even if they're not trump oriented conservatives. but this sense of constant
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turmoil is not something that's going to make a lot of those voters who voted for him comfortable. so i think it is a risk to him in the long term if he continues down this path. >> there's a lot of talk about where the russian investigations will lead. do you think that the five committees that are looking at it -- that sounds impressive. or it's proof that this is going to be kept contained because it's all done by those senate committees. you have oversight looking at it, but chaffetz is looking for leaks and leakers, not looking at the truth of the matters asserted. do you think the russia situation has any legs, or do you think it's going to go away? >> no, i don't think it's going to go away. there are investigative agencies looking at it. you have all kinds of offshoots that keep cropping up. we have a story today about three people close to the president including your friend michael koenen en, out there on sort of a freelance mission --
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>> we don't know if it's true, ax. >> we don't know. but those are things that are going to be chased down. here is the issue on the committees. there's been a battle within congress as you know, some members wanting a select committee to investigate this in the open and in public, and the leaders trying to contain the most explosive potential elements of it to the intelligence committees which are mostly classified and done in private. so one of the questions is, how much of this will be done in the open and how much it will be done in private? i think it's to the benefit of the administration for this to be as open as possible because so long as there are questions that exist, every action that this president takes vis-a-vis russia, reese is a vee ukraine, vis-a-vis europe, are going to be seen through the prism of a story that is unresolved. so it would be best for him to have this done in the open
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unless there are things here that he fears exposing. >> moving from russia, david, onto the media, the president attacks, attacks, attacks. but one of the most egregious things he's tweeted is the fake news media. this is a tweet, failing "new york times," abc, n bnchtsc, cbs, it's not my enemy. it's the enemy of the american people. when you first saw that, what did you think? >> well, i thought it was dangerous for a number of reasons. one is he's equating attacks -- not attacks, but equating news that isn't flattering to him with the people. if you write something or report something that he doesn't like, this is a front to the american people. that's a dangerous comment. i don't want to chase this rabbit too far down the hole. you can see viewers saying, well, the media is feeling
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singed by this. >> picked on. >> yes. indulging themselves. so you don't want to fall into that trap. but it is a dangerous thing when the president tries to impeach the entire media other than rush limbaugh, alex jones and some of the people on the fringes. i think the vast majority of americans do not believe that the media is the enemy of the people. i think he actually overplayed his hand there. if he complained about biassed coverage, he would probably find an audience. suggesting the media is the enemy of the people is a bridge too far for most americans. he made a mistake there in my view. >> ax is a chicago guy, loves the bear. mike singletary, famous linebackers from the bears, got tagged on a play and popped up and looked at the zbie who hit
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him and said, i love this, this is my kind of party. that's how i feel about this, ax. he's going to throw punches, but he's activated the media in a way to do fact analysis that will benefit everybody. while trump is doing what he's doing, the democrats are trying to figure out what to do. the dnc will have a big vote for who winds up being the party leader. dana bash and i will moderate wednesday night at 10:00, you'll get to see the main candidates. this is a big deal for them. how big a deal is it and why? >> well, it's a big deal for two reasons. one is that there are organizational issues that the democratic party has to face as has been pointed out many times. there's been a huge loss of not just congressional seats, lu legislative seats and governors' offices over the last ats years. those need to be recovered and it needs to start with a grassroots organizing effort. the second reason it's important is whoever is chosen as leader of the democratic party in the
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absence of a president is going to be here a lot on television with people like you speaking for the party, and the ability to articulate an appealing message to the american people is going to be very important to the success of the party moving forward. so there is real consequence to who is chosen. i know the party committees have been weakened. a lot of people denigrate the value of the parties. it's still a platform, and that platform is important. >> david axelrod -- i just love hearing him talk. he's one of those people you just listen to. >> i'm of two minds. >> right back at you, guys. >> ax, always a pleasure. >> you never have two minds my friend. >> he meant to say i have no mind. >> zero, nothing. president trump, he is trying to narrow down his list of candidates for national security adviser. who will he choose? coming up, a look at the names
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markets are closed today for presidents day. stocks have seen a steady rise in the first month of trump's presidency. s andp 500 is up 3.9% since president trump took office. that's the third largest rally ever for a president's first months. the biggest ever brand mash-up is no more. crop ties withdrew, $143 billion takeover bid for unilever. the company announced the offer friday. unilever turned down the $50 per share bid saying the price undervalued the company. the merger would have been the largest in the food and beverage industry, trumping the $125 billion deal between beer makers anheuser-busch, inbev and sab miller in 2016. time now for the five things you need to know for your new day. president trump didn't own that what he said was wrong, but did
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explain his last night in sweden gaff by tweeting it was something he saw on tv. sweden, unsure if that counts as an official white house response. on this presidents day anti trump crowds expected to hold rallies. defense secretary mattis arriving in bagdad saying the u.s., just as iraqi forces, with coalition support launch an offensive to drive isis out of mosul. he says the u.s. has no plans to seize iraqi oil, an idea, yes, once floated by president trump. in northern california, a new storm will test the stressed oroville dam. up to five inches of rain is expected and, prompting flood and evacuation warnings. oscar rivals "moonlight" and
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the search continues here. president trump continues to look for his new national security adviser, interviewing four candidates just over the weekend to fill the vacancy after the firing of general michael flynn. who are the men the president are considering? let's go through that with insight on somebody who knows. cnn military analyst and retired general mark hertling. we know as of friday night, petraeus and mcchrystal, they were out.
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we know the story with flynn. and then harwood was out. why do you think, a, general, this is so tough and b, who is the best guy for the job? >> i won't say who the best guy is for the job. i'll tell you three of the four i know very well, the three general officers. and they are all very disciplined, very principled, very smart people. that's what you need, brook. you also needy think, different from mike flynn who was primarily a staff officer most of his career, all three of these individuals have been commanders, which meant they've had staffs. when you go into the national security council, the nsa, you'll have staffs from different agencies, cia, state department, defense department will all have representatives on that staff. you're going to need to know how to put a very diverse and eclectic group of individuals together. some have said the nsc is somewhat like a "star wars" bar
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scene in terms of the various cultures there. that >> got a funny reminder of the movie. former navy s.e.a.l., impressive resu resume. he said it was more of a family issue. we've heard other reports from other sources here at cnn. is it balk steve bannon, this political operative has a seat at that principal table? what's the sticking factor, you think, for that or any of these future men? >> that may be a part of it. i don't want to guess. i'm certain there are definite personalities involved here. the thing you've got to realize, brooke, as many in washington know, the nsa, that's a 4/7, 65 job. you have to be very smart, put your ego aside. you have to work with people who have huge egos at the same time and have to be the interlocutor
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between a bunch of different folks in different agencies. you have to be a coordinator, synchronizer, agenda developer. it really takes some tough work. what you're talking about in a retired three star admiral like harwood, he has other things going on. the question is do you want to come back to this. two of the three general officers, mcmaster and kaslen are currently serving officers. this could be an assignment for them which they may not get to say no to. both in the back end of their careers, both ready to retire. bobby has been at the military academy as a superintendent for almost 4 1/2 years. mcmaster has been in training and doctrine command as a three-star talking about the future of the army. keith kellogg is the only retired one of those three. i knew him on the joint staff. he's been out since 2003. so the person who takes over this job has got to be ready for a whole lot of hard work and
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government pay. >> that's interesting to note on the two that may not be able to say know. quickly on general mattis, he is in iraq face-to-face with these american men and women, just after the iraqi foorss launched the offensive in mows sell. i want to ask you about oil. you have general mattis saying he is not there to ease oil which is not what the president has said. what do you make of that differential between the defense secretary and the president? >> first of all, i want to cob grat late all my iraqi brothers and sisters conducting this fight in a magnificent way. for our secretary of defense to land on the tarmac of bagdad and have one of the first questions asked to him, or at least implied to him was, are you here to take the oil or arrange for that, that's shameful in and of itself. i'm sure he wants to deal with some other issues in terms of how to support the iraqi security forces, and to get that question, yeah, to me, and this
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is my personal opinion, brook, that's not one of the things you want to deal with when you're the secondary of defense. i'm glad he put that aside, but it's unfortunate that he even had to address it. >> general hertling, always a pleasure. >> thanks, brooke. cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow and john berman begins after this break. cranberries and almonds. so, guess what? we call it cranberry almond. give kind a try. z28cnz zwtz y28cny ywty ♪sweet, sweet st. thomas nice.
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good morning everyone. happy monday. i'm poppy harlow. john berman has the week off. this morning the president facing a big week ahead, promising a new executive order on immigration, this as he tries to explain exactly what he meant when he said this at a campaign-style rally in florida. listen. >> you look at what's happening last night in sweden. sweden, who would believe this? sweden, they took in large numbers, they're having problems like they never thought possible. >> that left sweden and many others scratching their heads. what exactly was the president talking about. now the administration is facing more questions on what the president meant and where he got that information. let's begin with athena jones who joins us
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