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flynn were inaccurate. >> what a team. >> a new wave of bomb threats in jewish community centers across the country. >> how is the white house responding to the anti-semitism. >> the trump administration preparing to roll out a new travel ban executive order. >> at the end of the day, this not making us safer. >> the basis for his travel ban in the first place is the problem. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn cammarata. good morning. welcome to "new day. yts another general joining the trump administration. the president naming army general h.r. mcmaster as the new national security adviser. this man is different. he's active tutti in the army as he assumes the role as the president's main intelligence person and he's going to take on some challenges right away. >> including president trump's executive order on immigration.
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also there are questions this morning about why president trump will not take a stronger stance against the anti-semitism received. it's day 33 o our presidency. let's begin with joe johns live at the white house. good morning, joe. >> good morning, alisyn. the president making his quick search for a new national security adviser into a quick announcement at mar-a-lago before heading back here to the white house last night. h.r. mcmaster, a highly regarded choice who for all intents and purposes who did not have an option of turning down the job. >> he's a man of tremendous talent and tremendous experience. >> president donald trump unveiling general h.r. mcmaster as his new national security adviser. >> he is highly respected by everybody in the military, and we're very honored to have him. >> mcmaster is a decorated army soldier, a veteran of the first
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gulf war, iraq, and afghanistan, and a widely respected military strategist. >> i east just like to say what a privilege it is to continue serving our nation. >> known as a independent think he's a west point graduate and holds a phd in political history. senator john mccain who's been among president trump's toughest republican critics calling mcmaster an outstanding choice, a man of genuine intellect, character, and ability. he takes the helm of the national security council one week after michael flynn was forced to resign for misleading the president about his communications with a russian ambassador. >> i was disappointed to learn that the -- the facts that have been conveying to me by general flynn were inaccurate. >> he turned down the job citing
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family reasons. sources tell cnn harward was also concerned about being able to form his own team. but as an active duty officer mcmaster did not have the option of saying no thanks. what remains to be seem is how he'll work with steve bannon, the president's controversial chief strategist who sits on the national security council. >> the president has said very quickly the new nsa director will have total and complete say over the makeup of the nfc and all of the kpoenltds of the nfc. >> on another note, the president is expected to visit the smithsonian's brand-new african-american history museum which is just across the way from the white house. he was expected to go last month but had to reschedule a visit. alisyn? >> joe, thank you very much for all of that. the white house set to unveil its new executive order this week. new guidelines for enforcement will be announced today.
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cnn's laura jarrett is live in washington with some includes as to what will be included. what have you learned, laura? >> good morning, alisyn. we're expecting to see too big moves on immigration this week. the first stop later this morning will be formal guidance from homeland security to other agency chiefs. that's expected to tell them how to implement the president's consecutive orders on immigration and border security. the important thing to watch will be language detailing and expanded process. a much wider amount of discretion for immigration officers on who exactly to arrest. dep pew tiezing if you will of local police to act as immigration officers and tightening standards for asylum seekers. they plan to at least leave it in place for now regarding the children known as daca which
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protects the young undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s., the d.r.e.a.m.ers. the question on everyone's mind this week is what exactly is going to be different about this ban the second time around. perhaps the graduatest change this week that we know of is who is drafting the order. this time the sources say the white house council office instead of the policy shop is taking a lead role and we also heard from homeland security over the weekend the rollout will clud a phase-in period instead of a switch, chris. >> appreciate that reporting. it's helpful. let's welcome in carlos from florida. let's put up again from the audience. thank you for joining us as always. this will expand the use of expedited removal proceedings. in other words, tightens laws,
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orders a surge in immigration judges and detention facilities. gives more authority to immigration officers, leaves d.r.e.a.m.er program intact. are you happen with what you expect to see? >> well, chris, the first thing i will say is this country like any country has the right and responsibility to secure its border and enforce its immigration laws. now, having said that, we need to do that in a smart and compassionate way and i'll tell this administration the same thing i told the previous administration. if we're going to solve the immigration puzzle in this country, something we've been debating for ten years now, the immigration has to engage the congress and the solution has to come out of the congress. it can't be only compassion on those. we need to do it all. border security, visa and to
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find way for legal status for those tributing in oush country, who aren't violating our laws. and some of the good news from my perspective in this order is the continuation of daca. we have many young undocumented immigrants in our community, many people brought to our country and those stay in place. that's something else that calls for a solution from the congress. >> one step sideways and then we'll get back to the travel ban. but in terms of the recent enforcement actions are you concerned that some of these principles that you want to make sure are part of our reform are not in place? that some families have been jeopardize and broken up by enforcement actions? is that something you ooh going to speak out against? >> absolutely. and without question there's a tightening here from the policies of the previous administration, but i remind everyone of the previous administration removed more undocumented immigrants more than any other in the history of
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our country. now, the way in which we do that has to be smarts. these orders do focus from what i can tell on criminals, people who have committed crimes in our country. of course, i think most americans agree that those people should be moved. now, people who are just here working, contributing, breaking up families, those are the kinds of things we don't want to see. they're not good for our country and not good for the family. >> it's interesting to hear a republican state the fact that obama's administration had been very aggressive, indeed, deportations, he let everybody stay. he didn't kick anybody out. so do you think you're going to get a lot of resistance from people when you speak out that way? look. i think in recent years the truth has gotten lost in a lot of our debates. the fact is the obama administration has deported more people in our history. the fact is we have a much more
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secure situation at the border than we did ten years ago. to we need to keep going? absolutely. the american people are tired of this debate. it's been ten years since mccain/kennedy. we need to act. in order to accomplish this, no administration, whether it's trump or congress alone, they have to be paet of the solution. >> and it doesn't have to be one big ominous piece of legislation either. last we, congress machblt the underlying point, the principle that this travel ban must embrace is the mane of a threat even though there are these new accommodations made with the travel ban. it doesn't seem to deal with that primary problem that the people that you want to keep out of this country, even if for a little while and for an assumed purpose of figuring out better
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procedures, there is no major threat that they poed statistically to warntd banning them. that's what the critics will say. 000 you deal with that? >> chris, first of all, i welcome any improvement from the previous order and i think general kelly has been very involved in the drafting of this new order. here in south florida, we know general kelly very well. i feel good about that. having said that, toinlt like these blanket policies. i prefer surgical policies. we should have strong security tests for anyone who wants to come into this country. this policy focuses on these seven countries without question. there's a great terrorist threat. but we have people from allover the world trying to get into the united states. here in south florida, we know it well. we have people who come in and defraud medicare with millions and millions and liev our country. focus should be on dangerous
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people, not different countries. having said, that i look forward to seeing the new order and hopefully it's a drastic improvement. >> what i don't get is if it's still from those same seven countries and going after the refugees, you're still going to be deal being populations ha by the most generous estimates pose the most threat, 1 to 3 million, 1 to 3-plus million in terms of a threat. you have to weigh that against what does it mean to your foreign standing? what us the it mean to propaganda? what us the it mean to those now desperate somewhere else to come to the united states? is anybody going to balance those interests at any point? >> i understand what you're saying, chris, and to an extent, i agree with you. look. south florida is a community replete with refugees. people who came to this country who really didn't think they had a choice. they fear for their lives.
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i'm very sensitive to that. i hope this policy is only temporary and we can shift back in the future to a policy that focuses on keeping dangerous people out of the united states no matter where they should be coming from. i do agree these blanket policies don't send a good message and i hope they're only temporary. >> the only caution is it's rare where we came to be less inclusive and led to becoming more inclusive. congressman, i appreciate your candor on this. we'll see what's in the executive order. thank you, sir. >> thank you. have a good day. >> alisyn. thousands are gathering across the country for "not my president"'s day rallies. one of the biggest protests took place in new york outside the trump international hotel. breaking news, five
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americans killed when a small plane crashed in melbourne, australia. police say the plane crashed into a shopping mall. after takeoff is when it happened. the mall was closed at the time of the crash. investigators still looking into it. >> a veteran of the whittier california police department was gunned down during a traffic stop. officer keith boyer who was shot and killed by a gang member who had just been paroled. they say the suspect was driving a stolen car and when officers ordered him out of the car and patted him down, he opened fire. the suspect was wounded in the exchange of gunfire. the police chief was overcome with emotion. >> you know, it's really hard for me to hold back my tears because all of us have been grieving since 10:00 this morning and i didn't think i had
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any tears left but everybody needs know what these officers are dealing with out there on a daily basis. you have no idea how it's changed in the last four years. people don't want to follow rules. people don't care about other people. and it's tragic. this is a senseless senseless tragedy that did not need to be. >> oh, that is heartbreaking. this is heartbreaking. they are on the front lines every day. they say there's no such thing as a routine traffic stop. every time they pull somebody over, they don't know what they're pulling over. >> people dismiss -- i haven't seen the numbers, but i have to tell you, i've about got a lot of friend ostown job and they all say what you just heard, that things have changed. they feel that the manner that people interchange with them, the resistance that they get, the fear that they feel has all heightened in the last few years. >> i wonder what that is. well, we'll continue to cover this and bring you all of those developments. loort. so we have reports of more bomb
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threats targeting jewish centers across the country. first daughter eva ka trump condemns them. you may know she converted to judaism. her father is an orthodox jew. they are raising their kids in the jewish faith. one lawmaker is asking why the president isn't as vocal and outspoken as his daughter. we have that congressman next. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org.
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jewish communities across the country are seeing a wave of anti-semitism. since january jewish centers have received nearly 70 threats. president trump's daughter ivanka who converted to judaism tweeted the response. america is a nation built on the principle of religious tolerance. we must protect our horses of worship and religious centers. jer jer
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jerry nadler tweeted back. very nice, but this should be coming from president trump donald trump. >> why has he evaded two questions in his last two press conferences on this question. the last time he was asked about the wave of bombings -- bomb threats, i should say arising from anti-semitism, he answered about what a great electoral college vote he got which is a total non sequitur. then he said he's not anti-semitic, which nobody accuses of him being. but he refuses to address it. the second time when an orthodox reporter from mao district asked him a question that started off by saying no one thinks you're anti-semitic, you're a good guy, et cetera, he shut him down.
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he said stop talking. he accused the reporter of lying. it's a complicated question, not a friendly question. then he talked about -- again, he refused to address the anti-semitism. >> what is that about? >> i don't know what it's about, but it's certainly about refusing to do what any president, governor, or mayor would do which is to denounce bigotry. maybe he doesn't want to tee nouns his own supporters because some of his own supporters are responsible for this. "breitbart news" with was a fountain he fountainhead for it. all i do know is he's refused tell mentry duty of a president to denounce the wave of big industry and help stop it. >> he claims he has. in fact, here's a white house statement i will read to you. this is from the deputy press secretary. i believe it's yesterday. hatred and hate-motivated
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violence is no place in a country founded on the promise of individual freedom. the president has made it abundantly clear that these actions are unacceptable. >> he hasn't done that. that's what he incited in the last two press conferences. he said he's not anti-semitic. no one's accused him of being anti-semitic. he's refused to denounce supporters. he's refused to denounce david duke and other supporters who have indum jed in anti-semitism and he's refused to say anything. if he made a statement like ivanka did, it would be a great step forward. >> if he's listening, what do you want him to say? >> he should come out and say exact hi what ivanka said, what any person would say, it's
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odious, terrible, and we condemn it. we condemn anybody who indulges in it. all americans are opposed to it, should be. >> of course. i mean as you know, he has been much more vocal in denouncing the media. he has been quite aggressive in his feelings about the media. he's called the press the enemy of the american people. is congress doing anything about this? >> i dodge know what congress can do about it. we should condemn it. the press is not the enemy of the people. the two institutions that we depend on to maintain a democratic form of government. are a free press and the independent judiciary. he's attacking both of them. to say that you can't believe -- to delegitimize a person so say you don't agree is dem fwoging
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to the extreme and very destructive, and the phrase, enemy of the people, that has a history. the only people that i know of who have abused that phrase, he's an enmany i of the people were stalin and the people who succeeded stalin to the soev yacht block, enemies of the people. the press is not an enemy of the people. nobody is an enemy of the people because we disagree about what we ought to be doing. we're all working for the benefit of the people as we see it. we may be wrong. i may disagree with you but that's what democracy is about. to label the press or anybody else as the enemy of the people is a totalitarian tool of dictators, not a fifth thing for the president of the united states. and for the judiciary to say someone disagrees with you is a so-called judge or these are our political decisions before they've even renders a decision is trying to remove that that
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protects o protects us. >> president trump's ties to russia or alleged ties to russia. some russian officials said during the campaign, oh, yes, we did speak regularly with some of president -- then candidate trump's top advisers. he said, no, there was no contact during the campaign. is what are you toung about this? >> well, unfortunately you can't believe what the president says because we've seen him lie incessantly including things that are checkable. the crowds at his in august racing and that it was sunny. he's lost all credibility. fact of the matter is the russian government, russian
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intelligence agencies tried to affect the election in his favor. we e that. "the new york times" has reported and others have report and the russians have admitted that during the campaign, and this is way beyond the campaign of mike flynn talking to the ambassador, but during the campaign, high people in the campaign were communicating with russian intelligence agencies. not the ambassador but the intelligence campaign. what were they talking about? it raises the question whether the trump campaign or trump perhaps were urging the russians or working with the russians to affect the campaign. what we to about it is we have to investigate that and find out the truth of that obviously because if that was true, if trump was involved in trying to have a foreign government win the ee lerkz, that would raise questions. i introduce the question of inquiry which comes live next week which demands all information about this and a lot of other things be turned over to congress from the didn't of
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justice and the thing about a resolution of inquiry, they must bring it up in committee by the week after next or have a vote on the floor. >> there you go. very timely. please keep us posted. congressman, now, thank you very much for being here on ha day. chris. >> all right, alisyn. president trump will address the political conservative action conference on friday. you'll hear about cpac. they wasn't resisted his run but things have changed. we'll brick in mcconnish and talk about the president and his party. see me. see me. don't stare at me. see me. see me. see me to know that psoriasis is just something that i have. i'm not contagious. see me to know that... ...i won't stop until i find what works. discover cosentyx,
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cpac is the conservative political action conference. president trump will address the conservatives friday morning. you may remember he didn't address the group when he was a candidate because there was a fear of backlash by anti-trum
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pers. let's discuss how things have changed with the one and only michael smerconish, the hoefts of cnn's "smerconish." what do you see this year? what are the issues at play? >> i think it's a continuation of the 2016 campaign, much like we saw with the rally over the weekend in melbourne, florida. the president trump is choosing the opportunity to stay in front of friendly audiences, saying the media doesn't give him a fair shake. i'm always surprised by this, chris. there's always the fringe type in the cpac room. so there are some intangibles, but i think by and large, he'll be given a very friendly audience. >> let's talk about one of those fringe types, that is a fresh provocateur milo yiannapolis who has come into national awareness
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because some college campuses canceled his awareness and conservatives were up in arms because they thought this was political correctness run amok. why can't this conservative provocateur kid go and speak at college campuses. well, now cpac has canceled him because it appears that sometimes things are beyond the pale. there are some subjects that even a conservative provocateur should not be saying and now conservatives have to explain why they don't want him to speak. >> i think you're struggling to use the word, alisyn, pedophilia. i'll say it for you. there's a debate about ped pheaa that my low yiannapolis weighs in on. why in world would cpac want to be associated with that debate regardless of what the point might be that he's trying to make. when i saw the invitation first extended, to me it represented the situation that provocateurs
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wield over great conservatives because they're the ones who dictate many of the talking importants to the hard core primary voters. frankly the positioning of bannon in the white house representings representingss that whole process of coming full circle. there's been an extension of power to provocateurs that's come at the expense of party leadership. i don't think it's in the best interest of either extreme in either party. >> so what does trump need to have happen when he goes there on friday? what is the value of cpac? what is the kind of plan for trump in terms of expanding things? >> you know, chris, we're having this conversation on a tuesday morning. can you imagine roy's about to transpire in this 24-hour news cycle? it's hard to predict where we'll be on friday given the pace of things that have happened each
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and every day on his watch. in very general terms i believe he's using that forum as an opportunity to speak in frjts of a friendly audience because between today and friday there will be many things that tick off the clock. >> michael, i want to get back to what you just said. i think that's a really compelling point. provocateurs have taken the place of conventional leadership because it's juicier and more head-line grabbing and you can build more blogs around it and you can build more websites around it. >> the only major one is trump. when you say provocateurs, really, he filled the entire space in terms of who succeeded on that. to compare this guy from breitbart to trump is insults? >> i'm comparing him to rush limbaugh and breitbart radio. >> it's even insults to those guys. >> i guess it but i think your point is people who say the most outlandish things right now, as we know, they don't necessarily have to be fact-based, get a lot of attention.
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>> correct. alisyn gets it. let me try and reach chris on this point. i am saying donald trump is the embodiment of a 30-year trend in the making, an embodiyment of rush limbaugh, the drudge report, fox news, bright bart, news max. they expert control over primary voters in the way the traditional conservative leadership used to do, and that's why my low yiannapolis would even be extend and invitation to come to a gathering like cpac. but the problem is that comes at the expense of reaching a much more middle-of-the-road audience than you need in a general election. >> i agree with the first part. i'm just saying that this was an obvious mistake because even though, you know, this culture, our political ku tur embrace this extreme and it's only expanding, o your point, you make the decision about what you want to identify with. when cpac went on this, i'd love to talk to matt on this, friend
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of the show, what were they thinking? what was the benefit to them except buzz? and not all buzz is good with respect to the presidency. >> i think you're right. in the past it's not been milo yiannapolis. it's always been ann coulter in that mix for exactly that reason. they want us talking about it in the lead-up and in the days after. >> if only we knew how to get matt slep's phone number, perhaps we can call him and get him on the show. >> we have been efforting. >> great seeing you, michael. >> smerconish. dama bash andry going to moderate a big time debate. what are the democrat going to do? what are they going to oppose? what is their message? that come to understand to who leads them tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. eastern. you will see the candidates. one of the candidates on the stage will end up pointing in the direction of the parties. >> looking forward to that.
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decorated army lieutenant general. he r. mcmaster will get his first briefing today. who is he? why are people confident in his choice? let's discuss it with swhun who knows him personally. always good to have you with us, colonel. please, h.r. mcmaster, why are you confident in this selection? >> well, chris, i think it is
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one of the best selections that could have been made given the circumstances for the national security adviser. he has combat experience, he's got staff experience, and he has really the kind of think tank experience. a lot of that to the table and that's why i'm very confidence that this is a very good pick for a position that is probably next to the white house chief of staff, one of the most powerful positions in the white house. >> let's pull back one of the labels for a second. he's identified as one of general petraeus's smart guys. he's called a warrior thing. what is that? >> a warrior thinger is somebody who not only fights the battles and uses his experience to win tactical victories, but it's somebody who can pull back from that and they kind of take an approach that is a 30-thousand foot approach that allows you to see not only what the tactics
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are but also to help formulate the strategies that allow you to win wars. a warrior thinker in this case is somebody who's been automobile to bring the type of doctrine that the army needs in order to win counterinsurgency battles. he did that not only theoretically, general mcmastering but he did it practically in battle as well as in running operations during the second iraq war. >> very sung sue in your analysis. not another feature is mcmaster is active duty. now, for political types, they've used thaz a little bit of a shtick with the white house saying they had to use it before others passed him out. that's a little bit of nonsense. what does it mean to you to be active tutti? >> to be an active duty officer, chris, is exactly that. he had to take the position in order to continue with his military career, but it also
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gives him a certain amount of leverage, but he knows the people that are actively working issues within the army, within the joint staff, and within the dod at large. he also has connections to the state department and he knows people that he's worked with in foreign countries. he's been in london, at a think tank in london and he's also done some work with local leaders in iraq and afghanistan. so this general brings so much to the table not only the sung sue part of it but the practical application and political understanding that you don't find that often in general officers today. >> so what to you make of this notion that, well, still tricky because mattis is a four-star and he is a three-star and that's how you military guys are. it's hard to be the top dog if you're not the most stars. is that real? >> well, to an extent it. in relike you look at previous
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national security advisers like brent stillcross and you look at colin powell. neither one of them had any issues going back to the roles that they had or furthering their careers on the civilian side. so it is, i think, a misnomer. there are ways to coordinate. and real four-star generals know how to work with everybody and they also know who the national security adviser represents and he speaks for the president when he talks to these people. >> give me a quick anecdote about mcmaster should make people excited about his leadership. >> h.r. is really one of those people who can touch out and reach all the people that work for him. so when he was in desert storm, he was the one who actually led the biggest tank battle since the second world war and he tee feted a far superior iraqi
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force. he diddet not only with superior technology but he also did it in way that worked wonders with his troops. he had the highest morale in any unit in the cavalry of that time and it was one of those things that really saw the capability of the american soldier up close and personal that got them to to the kinds of things that they needed to to but to do it so helpfully. >> helpful. good to have you on the show as always. >> you bet, chris. >> alisyn. town hall fury. his raucous scenes becoming a familiar site. we'll take you to one next. (vo) what if this didn't have to happen? i didn't see it. (vo) what if we could go back? what if our car... could stop itself?
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congressman scott taylor, the latest lawmaker targeted by protesters at town halls. why is this going on? is this about people being shipped in to create a distraction or is this people with discontent. >> reporter: welcome home, congressman, scott taylor, to your district's town hall. >> do you support the creation of a house select committee
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investigating russian interference in our election. >> from jeers to clear disapproval, a grassroots rage against the representatives. >> they fill up our allies with people that you wonder how they got there. >> this has become a very paid astroturf type of movement. >> are you making money on this? >> making money? no, this is not a money-making ventu venture. >> three former democratic congressional staffers. >> we have seen a local activist movement, the tea party, emerge, and we saw how that could work against us. >> and they sketched out an online guide of progressives of how to stop trump's agenda. >> when we put it out, we hoped our parents would help us.
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the indivisible guide downloaded by 1.7 million. the authors have now filed with the irs as a non-profit, and there's one full-time employee who still has not been paid. three weeks ago they put up a donation site on their website, and small donations so far, they say, and their movement growing. >> it keeps your coalition together and it allows you to have the greatest impact possible. >> the congressman allows a town hall, but it was outside that got confrontational, and two political sides separated by police. >> build the wall! >> one taken away in handcuffs, but no injuries.
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the new congressman a month into his new job, he says congress should continue to face voters. >> there's legitimate safety concerns and it's important to get out and talk to our people. >> however intimidating it may seem. >> very interesting to see what is happening at all the town halls. trump will roll out his new immigration executive order this week, and sources tell cnn the resized travel ban will include the same seven muslim majority countries, and this order will be more agreeable to the courts. and let's discuss it with our executive director on a forum for change, and the director of muslim advocates and the national association of muslim lawyers. great to have both of you with us this morning. the white house says this is not a muslim ban. >> lipstick on a pig?
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it is the same thing. i think it's part of a pattern we are seeing where the trump administration is targeting muslims while dropping the ball on other kinds of extremism. i think for a lot of muslims there's a feeling this is more of the same, and maybe the language is more polite, and the bigger problems i am hearing from the muslims, he's making us less safe and dressing up the policies as national security to create the impression that he is acting decisively, and we all know when there are attacks real, or in his case in many times, imagined, he uses those attack to further policy. >> i know you do believe it's a muslim ban, but what about the white house argument that the most -- that the countries with the largest muslim majorities,
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afghanistan, indonesia, pakistan, turkey, i could go on and on, they are not included in this, and muslims can still come in and how can it be a muslim ban? >> i totally agree with him, and i think the president is trying to put lipstick on a pig, and to answer your question directly, and even in the first executive order, the seven countries that were identified were the first seven, and the language of the executive order anticipated an expansion of the list. obviously we have not seen the second one yet, but i think we will be looking closely at the language of that one. >> just to be clear, and cnn does have reporting on this, and they are expecting it to be the same seven, so this new and resized order, if it's the same seven countries, are you saying it will expanded to include every country that has a muslim majority? >> so again, i have not seen the language of number two, but executive order number one
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clearly anticipated an expansion of the list, but more f importantly, alisyn, these seven countries represent a majority of muslim refugees that immigrated to the united states in the last year, and that speaks to the real motivation behind this muslim ban, and that is to halt the immigration of muslims. why else target these particular countries when immigrants from these particular countries have not actually engaged in terrorists activities in the united states? >> i hear you. there's lots of issues with it and you can have lots of issues with this, but on this particular point i don't understand your point, why not include then, if this is a muslim ban and you don't want refugees or any immigrants who are muslim coming in from any sort of hot spot, then why don't they have pakistan and afghanistan and indonesia on
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here? go ahead. >> i was going to say the real problem here is that it's really harmful and dangerous for us as a country to be blanketly labeling particularly countries as a threat and halting immigration from those threats, and it's dangerous, and if i may add, i think the reason why, again, based on the early reporting, we are still very concerned about executive order number two because it would halt new immigration and new visitors from our country, to our country, and let me give you an example. imagine living your life without an iphone, and without an ipad or other product by apple. imagine if -- that's what would have happened if decades ago the united states had barred entry to the father of steve jobs who entered the united states on a student visa, so shutting our border means shutting innovation and access to health care and
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economic growth, and i think no american can think that's a good thing. >> we are a nation of immigrants. all of our grandparents came from somewhere else, but, again, you know what the white house says, they say that they did not come up with these seven countries, and they say it was the obama administration that identified these seven countries as these particular hot spots where there needs to be a pause so they can figure out what better vetting is, though they have not identified that, and again if indonesia is not on here, how can it be a blanket muslim ban? >> look at his language. this is a fascinating thing, right? we just reported earlier on this show about a wave of anti-semitic facts, and he has empowered anti-seplits. he has steve bannon as the power behind the thrown, and he is
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putting people in place that have otis views. he wants a complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states, and he's bringing in people who have white supremacists neo-nazi views and refuses to condemn them, and if you belief in what america represents, if a candidate running for office says i am going to ban an entire group of people based on their religion for entering the country and the first week of basically being president sets in motion something that appears to be the first stage of that ban, then the question is, you know, is he going to add indonesia? seems like he could have if there had not been resistance from the courts, he would have and he will and he will keep trying because that's what he believes, he doesn't believe in the idea of america and he is just trying to turn america into a kind of supremacist country that most of us wouldn't want to live in. >> you make a good point, it's
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his own words that have been most damning on this topic. thank you very much for all the information. we look forward to hearing what happens with the new and resized ord -- revised order today. we are following a lot of news today, so let's get to it. >> mcmaster will become the national security adviser. >> i look forward to advancing the protection of the american people. >> nobody will be speaking ill of mcmaster. >> this is an upgrade over general flynn. >> the trump administration is tweaking the president's executive order on immigration. >> there's a fine line between keeping our community safe and taking away basic protections. >> and i am the least anti-semitic person. >> there's a question as to why the president

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