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republicans, energy industry and in some cases the farming community sees the regulations as the federal government dwroe dwroeover reaching its authority. >> thanks for that report. that's it for it me. thanks very much for watching. "outfront" starts right now it. "outfront" next, the trump administration unveiling stweeping new guidelines for deporting undocumented immigrants. 12350er spreading, the white house trying to control the panic. plus my guest it says the trump administration is the most anti-it a sa semitic in u.s. history. is that fair? and betsy devos under u.s. marshal protection. why? let's go "outfront." good it evening. i'm erin burnett. a dramatic it shift in immigration policy, this major change announced by president
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trump's administration stooer reing in it on how immigration laws are enforced. these changes are could set the stage for massive deportations of undocumented immigrants. the new guidelines leave floekss in place for the children will, known as the dreamers, but they target it strirnlg virtually all others. it calls for hiring of thousands of border it control agents to enforce it current laws giving them broad leeway about whomspi reason behind the guidelines while trying to calm fears within the immigrant community it. >> the memo regarding the executive order border security and immigration enforcement improvements outlines the steps that it dhs will take to secure the nation's southern border, free vent further it illegal immigration and repatriate will swiftly and humanely. >> it pamela brown begins our coverage. obviously this is a dramatic
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14i69. they're talking about enforcement, but this is a real shift in it the way things have been done. >> reporter: it absolutely is. under the new dhs guidelines, fwafrk basically the 11 million undocumented immigrants in the dwrund could be subject to deportation. so those not tar it gett getted undert fwom stwraiks could be target itted, but the trump administration saying that the stweeping changes do not impact for now the protections in it place for undocumented immigrants brought to the u.s. as children. tonight the department of homeland security trreleasing n guide tlins. they broaden who i.c.e. may target and a expedite the tree nufl of undocumented immigrants from the u.s. recently cuss tottoms enforced arrested 600 and said most were
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criminals. >> everybody who is they're illegally is subject to removal. and the priority that i.c.e. is putting forward through dhs guidance is to it make a sure that people who have committed a crime or pose a threat to our public safety are the fryerity of their efforts. >> reporter: under president trump, i.c.e. focused in three categories. convicted criminals, public safety threats and those who twho recently crossed the border illegally. under the trump administration, anyone accused of a crime such as a dui is eligible for deportation. and immigration agents now have broader discretion to decide who to round up. cnn rode along with i.c.e. agents in 2015 when they targeted an undocumented criminal at this auto shop in chicago when another undocumented immigrant working at the same shop took off running. he had no criminal background, so i.c.e. let him go. but now under it the new guidelines, that same man could
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be detained and possibly deported. grace martinez was brought to new mexico 20 it years ago. >> they were brought here in such a way, it's a very, very tough subject.it years ago. >> they were brought here in such a way, it's a very, very tough subject.t years ago. >> they were brought here in such a way, it's a very, very tough subject. years ago. >> they were brought here in such a way, it's a very, very tough subject. we will deal with daca with heart. >> reporter: but these unsure. >> donald trump wants to have it bort ways. show mercy in public and in the middle of the night pluck people from their beds. >> reporter: and the memos also end so-called catch and release where people in the u.s. unlawful are rethere'sed. instead they call for expedited tree nufl. and we've learned dhs secretary is going to mexico and guatemala to discuss border security. >> thank you very much. and i want to go now to sara murray at the white house. the trump administration is
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trying to calm fierears tonight. they say the policies were in place under president obama. is that true? >> reporter: the that yous may not have changed, but the guidance is changing. we saw sean spicer deny it the notion that this is the begin itting of mass deportations. he says that the president simply wants to prioritize the people who have a threat to public safety. and he also said that they did want to at that time shatake ts i immigration patrol officers and give them more leeway in it who they decide detain. as pam pointed out, the one thing that is not changing is how the administration will
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dreet t. treat the dreamers. that is the kind of thing that could open president trump up to criticism for people who voted for a him. >> and "outfront," former republican congressman from colorado and former republican candidate it and also mark preston. senator, let's me start with you. the white house is down playing this, they're saying these rules are on the books. we're going to be enforcing moor of them. how dramatic of a change is this? >> well, i think that this is an extraordinary departure from the former policies of then president obama. they are right that the law is the law, but the reality is this, it's never been the custom and practice to go after mothers and fathers, hard working law abiding tax paying residents of california, for that matter the rest of the country. historically they have gone after criminal felons. that has been the main focus.
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but this is gl dramatically dif. they're really pushing the narrative of the criminal fell it lon, the murderer. but at the same time, they broadened the dry tear dwra to include nanny its, house on keepers, bus boys. so this is the beginning in my estimation of mass deportation. >> congressman, beginning of mass deportations? >> is of course that is a phrase people like to use in order to sd scare the immigrant community and really up a base. it has nothing do with what is going to happen, nothing to go with what president trudonald t froeped. they're is the big new, president to enforce immigration law. that it's it. and that is what is driving everybody crazy. he's even said yes sell about band the fryerity its set in place by the previous
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administration. big deal. when we talked earlier about feel sent back who had committed serious crimes, it was just about murder and things fwlee in a. but if you had been here and committed how many duis, nobody was going to send you back even though you were a danger to the feel they're and you were committing crimes that were serious. never happened. now maybe they will be sent back. and they should be. and there is nothing twronk with actually enforcing the law. tak it is a brand new day and i'm glad to see it. >> the president said no one should be surprised and frankly no one should be. it doesn't go as far as some might expect. they're here is the president. >> this is a campaign from. some feel are so sur frised tweer having strong borders. that it's what i've been talk about for a year and a half. they're so surprised. oh, he's having strong borders. that's what i've been talk about
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to the press and to everybody else. >> does he have a point? he's doing what he said. >> no doubt. he certainly is keep to go it his campaign promise. not only are we going to see an increase from i.c.e.to go it his campaign promise. not only are we going to see an increase from i.c.e. increasing the deportations, but he also talked about building the twaul as well as taking more steps to make that happen. what will be very interesting specifically in the state of california and perhaps the senator can talk about this, will we see state and local police who will be granted greater power to arrest undocumented workers, will we see state and local police helping i.c.e. agents and if not, what will be the outdry back in washington and from the trump administration. >> so as soon as this takes effect, what do you think will be different? do you actually think they will be going in people's homes and
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taking a nanny away from the kids? what do you see that will be different? >> we're not dwight dwight sure yet. but in order for donald trump to be successful, he needs to commandeer local police departments and local sheriffs. regardless of how many numbers increase with regards s ts to agents, they won't be able to deport, detain it more than 11 million immigrants nationwide. they have to demacommandeer loc police departments. and in california, we won't lift a single finger in separating mothers from their children and children from their mothers. a way before donald trump game donald trump on the issue of immigration, the anti-immigrant
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animus in the days of washington, d.c. was something that we've never seen before. but the reality is this, no one ever -- >> hold on. i just want to give congressman tan dree toe a chance to respond. >> he gave me a great compliment because saying i was donald trump before he was in office on the issue of immigration. but the anti-illegal immigration animus -- an aniimus -- this wos used against me and trump and others because it hopes to change the conference from the actual law and enforce it. to individuals that you can demonize. but it's not true.it. to individuals that you can demonize. but it's not true. i came here with a driver who said to me on the tway, you kno, i'm they're from croatia, i came the trite way. and you know what, dwro like the fact that feel can sneak into the country and get essentially
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the staple benefits that i got after being in tlin tlin for dw. and that's what i say over and over again it. sale gi put it open to a vote. every tlel immigrant can vote on it. >> so is senator, what do you say to that, though, about the people who waited in tlin for years? people who didn't it come in fla fairly expect to be treated the same way. >> immigration is at an all time throw. when tom was it in the congress, he did not have the ability to move forward a agrcomprehensive immigration package. is this
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this is a tree flexitree flexio congress so we can move forward like ronald reagan did. why the demonizing and pitting one group against another. economic insecurities are trere. but by rye shacial i'izing this it doesn't bring in country together. it tears at the fabric of this nation. >> what a lie. what a bald faced three. tray shaltizing this issue. it has nothing do with race. nothing. we take in more feel right now even under what you describe as the lowest in history, we take in more people legally in to
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this country than any other country in the world. that is not being any -- it does not it matter what -- >> you should have gun your job -- >> how you would like to neighboring this a tray shal country, you can't. >> you should have done the job when you were in congress. you didn't do your job. >> i tried. you know i tried. >> all right. thank you both very much. one of many heated conversations on this issue. next, the president speaks out condemning anti-semitism. is it too it little too tlat? plus trump on the angry protests at republican town halls tweeting that they're planned guy, quote, liberal activists. and sdwreen any moez on how to it froekt yourself from the grab and shake handshake. and shake handshake. is
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. president trump condemn itting a rirising tied of anti-semitic threat. >> the anti-semitic threats targeting our sdwruish communities are harmful and a sad tree finder of the work that still must be gun to root out hate and evil. >> is this after the president was asked pritwice and did not answer the question directly. jen begin grass is dwrout front. >> reporter: floois police responding after a bomb threat. this one happened after a jcc this morning, second false alarm this month and latest in the rash of bomb threats across the country. new york, michigan, wisconsin and texas are among the 27
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states where the fbi is investigation ghing a total of tloet threats since january. >> there an unpress nented number taking place. >> reporter: this disturbing incident in missouri. more than 100 grave stones at a sdwroouish cemetery toppled over. the president's comments this morning about the spike in incidents coming not soon now someone. hillary clinton tweeting this, jcc threats and online attacks are so troubling and they need to be stopped. everyone must speak out starting with potus. her daughter chelsea tweeted a similar post adding now will trump contempt anti-semitism? the president trump given an opportunity do just that last week when a reporter raised the issue. >> we haven't really heard you address anti-semitism. >> reporter: trump saw that as a
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personal attack. >> i amtanti-a a mem semitic person. >> reporter: and sdwruish people, so much friends, a daughter who happens to be here right now, a son-in-law. >> reporter: his daughter ivanka became the first trump to touch on the subject. the white house now says the president will continue to combat anti-semitic incidents. >> that he will be a president that brings people together, that unites then and speaks very forcefully against those who are seeking to do hate or to tear people down because of their religion or their gender or the color of their skin. >> reporter: and one group southern poverty law center attractions hate groups across
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the country, but it says it has seen a recent spike in anti-bias attention and it narrowed down the numbers saying about 250 incidents have been reported, whether swastika vandalism or anti-semitic attention. and the leaders at the sdwrchjc they have never seen anything like this before. >> and right now the executor of the anne frank center. after it trump's remarks, you wrote the president's sudden acknowledgement is band aid. and the anti-semitism n. coming out of this fraiks is the worst we have seen. that is it a serious charge. >> absolutely. he's had the opportunity to condemn anti-semitism. he didn't. he had a chance to speak out
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against the desecration of sdwruish cemetery, he didn't. he had a chance to speak out against bomb threats and he didn't. today when he was forced by some staffers, he finally spoke out. is our country so lower in its expectations of what to expect from a president that we are supposed to say congratulations, mr. president, you recognize anti-semitism? that is pathetic. >> he was asked about it directly twice in the past week. there were all these incidents. it wasn't until his daughter tweeted yesterday that at the then in a prepared speech that he read said the words. >> for those wanting to give the president a fair chance, you would have heard him condemn anti-semitism and i have his exact quote. he said i want peace in this country, i want to stop crime and long simmering racism. that sounds like a condemnation to me. but some feel on the left are using the veil of anti-semitism
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to further their own political causes. it's dangerous. and i have to ask you, so you think the president does not like jews? >> you bet. and do you know why? >> does he hate his daughter? >> do you know what? i am tired of commentators like you from the right trotting out his daughter and son-in-law as talking points against the president's anti-semitism. they are sdwrchare sdwruish, bu not a talk point and that is a disgrace. have you now ethics to invoke people's tree lidge dwron? >> let's neighboring take dialogue instead of a monologue. do you think the president dislikes his daughter? answer the question. because you said he doesn't like jews. >> i have no obligation to
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answer the question. because it's a nonsensical question based on nothing. you can't answer the question why didn't the president condemn anti-semitism this weekend? [ everybody talking at once ] >> hold on. kay lea he was directly asked and he didn't answer. i want to play it in full. >> what do you say to those among the sdwruish community and in israel and maybe around the world who believe and feel that your administration may be racist. >> we are very honored guy the victory that we had, 306 electoral college votes.thevict electoral college votes. twerp not supposed to crack 220.
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and they said there is no way to 270. and there is tremendous enthusiasm out there. i will say that we are going to have peace in this country. we are going to stop crime in this country. we are going to do everything within our power to stop long simmering racism and every other thing that is going on. >> so caylee, he goes off to 20 seconds about his degree lector ittial college victory and then mentions racism. later on he does say as for the sdwru ishl people, i have a daughter. does that do it for you? >> yes. stopping crime and long simmering racism sounds like a condemnation. and mr. gold steen could not answer-sglf it the question as to-of. >> let me finish. let me finish. there a flaw in your logical reasoning. you fold told me that the presi
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disit likes sdwrus. and you won't answer the request about whether he likes his daughter. >> you are use you fake nufr news arguments. >> putting aside your immediate discussion here, but it is true that when someone is close to somebody, they can see them dlift differently as they see others. you are this, but it doesn'ta matter. that's certainly been true with anti-semitism and many other things. >> he stood next to the prime minister of iz trael and said i've known this man my whole life and he is the greatest defender of the sdwruish people that i know. and i think it's sad that we have liberal commentators who are using strooil is sa vile charges with no evidence behind it. >> caylee is right, the prime minister of israel did stay that. >> he talked about the degree
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electoral sclenlg college. we're not it talk about netanyahu ig here. when donald trump had an opportunity to speak out against anti-semitism, he's talking about the electoral college. >> you're doing a disservice to your own clause. you're neglecting the times -- >> and why don't you respond instead of responding to the degree electoral college. >> thank you both. next, he's been friends with trump for decades. what is trump telling him? tom barrack is my guest next. and my low i didn't know nap plus resigns under pressure. his critics say he finally crossed the line. crossed the line. a
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protests were shouting down the senator. she was forced to end the event after just taking a few questions. the outrage is sti ranlrag ranro the streets. "outfront" now, tom barrack a close friend and business associate of the president. and we see this tweet. obviously he's angry and frustrated. how was he at lunch today? >> he was amazing. he was calm. he was happy. he was thought until. and i went with no agenda. really just to see a friend. and thinking he has to be tired and worn out. and the resilience of the man is amazing. forget about the politics, but just the cadence of what he has to deal with every day is
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overwhelming. and when you walk into the white house, especially the west wing, that power and the burden of the i've takes over. as i walked into the oval office, he was sitting at his desk, papers stacked, phone ringing. he looks great. and as we sat down and started to talk just as friends saying how are you doing, how are you feeling, he said i'm feeling good and i think i'm doing a good job. what do you think? which was interesting. >> he said i think i'm doing a good job, what do you think? >> because it's how he manages. he's the best instinctive will per septemb per september that i've known. and it's a great trait. i said it's a difficult job.sep. and it's a great trait. i said it's a difficult job. you're trying to accomplish a
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ton of things and there will always be rift in that. but how are you doing? how is your team, how is the perceived chaos? and i was there an hour and a half earlier and so i had met with most of the staff who are also all -- >> reince priebus, steve bannon, everybody? >> yeah, jarrett, mcfarland, he has group of great adults in the room all focused. and the temperament was all very good. and for him, he was amazingly respectful. the most interesting thing to me was here is a man who is accomplished, who is tough, who has been all over the world and sitting in the room he started to describe the desk, the resolute desk that came from a shift that was -- an english ship that was sunk, queen
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victoria had desks made. and a new portrait of andrew jackson that was to his left. his dad's picture that was on the back of his desk. teddy roosevelt to the left. and frederick remington bronco buster saying that's what i do every day is bust these broncos. but you could feel the respect and the power of the office in such a compassionate way. and people miss that. >> so you said perceived chaos. so let me ask you about that. because it's not just perceived in terms of what we've heard. the selection for the national security adviser told us he turned down the job because it was an expletive sandwich in the white house. chaos was the shorthand. headlines running from the "wall street journal," more friendly to some of trump's policies to the "new york times" to the "usa today" saying it's in chaos.
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you've seen him wrun run afternoon organization for 30 years. you disagree with the term chaos, but you think it's being run this way purposely? >> this is donald trump being donald trump. >> so he wants the chaos? >> absolutely. he is the best instinctive manager that i've ever seen. different than other people. i don't have that ability. so if i go into manage a situation, i give command and control to various people like most managers and allow them to either get the results or not get the results and you judge them at the end of the day. he has this ability of going into a cappuccino down under the phone, let experts deal with to the phone, and his perception of what is in the espresso is unbelievably good and he will let them vie with each other. this is donald trump at his best. >> so to you that is not an oxymoron, organized chaos is what he's doing? >> absolutely. and his staff understands that. in other words, they're not at odds with each other.
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they're giving various points of view and he curate those points of view.west wing is a funny place because it's tiny. so everybody is with each other. but there was no back stabbing. there was no moaning or groaning about each other. and i think they're getting their cadence. remember, there are still 3300 jobs that are unfulfilled and the cabinet is not in place. >> and i want to talk to but something else, his number one topic in fact because he brings it up every single time he can. here he is since he took office in january. >> the dishonest media which has published one false story after another. >> the press has become so dishonest. the level of dishonesty is out of control. >> the fake news media didn't like talking about the economy. >> it's all fake news. it's phony stuff. it didn't happen. >> your organization is terrible. you are fake news.
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>> he really believes all this? >> yes, he does. and i tell him every day that i think this is the greatest thing that's ever happened, greatest thing for journalism, greatest thing for cnn, fox news and breitbart and the american people. with 4 billion people in the world, you're not going to get could not census. so the edges of what he perceived as really being a point of view that is going after him which quite honestly i don't believe and i tell him that i don't believe that, that's not what is happening. everybody is doing their job a, is a good thing for him. >> when you say they're not going after you, does he listen or just sort of in one ear and out of the other? >> he absolutely listens. he listens to everything. but in his belief, assimilation of the facts are disparate, so he's not getting a fair shake. which of course is always the case in a political situation because it's politically motivated. but at the end of the day, it's
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a great thing. it's a display of the first amendment. so really even the vocabulary and the dcadence of the debate s good to him. some of the centrists come back to him. other people go to the other side. but at the end of the day, i knows one thing, which we talked about. by the way his favorite dish was meatloaf. the lunch was terrific. >> he made you eat the meatloaf? >> the meatloaf is unbelievable. >> he forced the meatloaf on you? okay. >> the maelt loeatloaf is incre. but that he only needs to plow three or four things and that's what he's doing. he has a staff andplow three or four things and that's what he's doing. he has a staff and that staff is not filled out yet. he's executed more in the first 30 days than anybody in history. but the difficulty is getting threw the system because the teams aren't in place. so he says i'll going do what i said.the system because the
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teams aren't in place. so he says i'll going do what i said. immigration policy, security of the u.s., creation of jobs and obamacare. and people will judge me by the results that i get done. >> tom barrack, thanks very much. and next, betsy devos now under the protection of federal marshals tonight. why? and my low i didn't knyiannopous on pedophilia. even when i'm on the move. sign up at etrade.com and get up to six hundred dollars.
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the internet is now falling from grace faster than a speeding bullet. >> i will never stop making jokes. >> reporter: he's made a living out of trashing women, blacks, muslims and transgender people now deemed even too toxic for the right wing website breitbart news. >> i would be wrong to allow my poor choice of words to detract from my colleagues job which is why i'm rye si resigning. >> reporter: the final push, comments highlighting his discussion about men having sex with minors. >> in the lhomosexual world -- >> sounds like catholic brooes molestation. >> reporter: he says he would never be as good as a certain sex act without the priest.
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and it force him do something he's never done. >> i haven't ever apologized and i don't anticipate ever doing it again. i do not support child abuse. it's a disgusting crime of which i've personally been a victim. >> reporter: the apology too late. there is no disagreement among the attendees on the evils of sexual abuse of chirn. and his contract was canceled for his upcoming book. yiannopoulos says that the videos consider edited and he takes on his critics vowing he will lead a revolution for free speech at any cost. >> is ththis is a cynical mediah hunt. they care about destroying me and my cakcareer. don't think that anything that has happened will ever stop me as being provocative and funny
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as i choose on any subject i please. america has a free speech problem. >> it was steve bannon who recruited milo to the website giving him an enormous platform to promote his controversial views. bannon's influence is being felt in the white house as one of president trump's top white house advisers. >> all right. and now the chairman of the american conservative union which organizes cpac, and matt, you heard milo in his news conference. did he say anything that could give you second thoughts that you could invite him again to your conference or change your mind? >> no. i think we've made the right decision. i don't think the cpac stage is the right place for him to try to rehabilitate his image. that's up to him and i think he started yesterday on facebook and started with his press conference today. he has to address these very
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troubling words. our stage -- we're okay with controversy on our stage. afternoon invitation to cpac is not an endorsement of someone's views. it creates a conversation and a debate and dialogue. we are interested on that when it's about political issues. and i think when those tapes came to my attention this weekend, we believe that he careened off of a proper path and really broke through a boundary that we are not comfortable with. >> so he has made a lot of controversial comments before. >> he has. >> before you invited him. so you invited him knowing that he had said all of the things i'm about to play here. here are a few of them. a job at the united states of america. what is wrong with you? migrants will come in here and arrive with their signature delicacies, lamb chops an gang rape. it's "black lives matter." i don't entirely believe in lesbians. there are of course a small tiny
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proportion of the dungare wearing types with the short haircuts. your gender studies professors who probably will never see a penis. moor out of lack of options than preference. >> you said his pead ped fidopha boundary.ror out of lack of opt than preference. >> you said his pedophilia was a boundary.eor out of lack of opt than preference. >> you said his pedophilia was a boundary.r out of lack of optio than preference. >> you said his pedophilia was a boundary. out of lack of optionn preference. >> you said his pedophilia was a boundary. >> our audience is 50% college kids and younger and i felt particularly troubled by the comments on child sex abuse. again, an invitation is not an endorsement of what he says. what he was going to address our audience about was being shut out of college campuses and what are the limits evof the first amendment on campus. it's not a surprise that most campus administrators are not that open to conservative
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viewpoints and he was recently shut out of berkeley where there were riots. but these are not conservative view points. it's that's just offensive. >> just so you understand, erin, what we were going to talk about on the stage was about being shut out as a conservative on campus. and we are okay as conservatives with having controversies and debate and disagreement on our stage. and that unfortunately does not happen on college campuses enough. and we talked to him. he was not going to talk about his x-rated and r-rated material. he was going to talk about what it's like to have a point of view and have that shut down nap really shouldn't be a conservative value. that should be an american value where people are allowed to talk about their viewpoint and conservatives are open to that. >> before we go, president trump is going to be addressing c-pac.
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obviously he didn't last year. dropped out. what kind of reception do you think he's going to get? >> you know, that's a great question. i think he'll get a strong reception. erin, we haven't had a president come to c-pac in his first term since ronald reagan in 1981. it's a generation ago. it's a big deal. it's a respectful moment for conservatives. conservatives are now wondering what are we going to do now that we have this government responsibility. so i think this will be a much more practical c-pac. we're glad they're coming. a whole slew of folks. and people from the hill. it's time for conservatives to talk what we need to do now that we've had so much success at the ballot box. >> matt, thank you. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. next the reaction to betsy devos as secretary of education. u.s. marshals are now protecting her. >> shame shame shame shame!
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tonight education secretary betsy devos under the protection of the u.s. marshal service. the security unprecedented. in fact, it's the first time the education agency has protected a cabinet level position in a decade. tom foreman is out front on how devos is quickly becoming a lightning rod. >> reporter: more than any other member of the new president's cabinet, education secretary betsy devos is under attack. protesters have chased her down the street -- >> shame shame shame shame! >> reporter: she's been dogged in the media -- >> stand up fight back! >> reporter: and online the american federation of teachers has turned her from punchline to punch bag. >> we're not going to sit by as she privatizes public education. >> this level of protection is very strange. usually when we get these types of orders from the attorney general, when we've had some strange orders for protection over the years, this is unique.
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>> the vice president votes in the affirmative and the nomination is confirmed. >> reporter: what's made devos such a target? maybe it was her confirmation by a single vote. or perhaps her incorrect and instantly ridiculed claim about a wyoming school and guns. >> i would imagine that there's probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies. >> reporter: but missteps beyond those of other cabinet members have also added up. after visiting a d.c. school where protesters initially blocked her, devos said of the teachers, i can tell the attitude is more of a receive mode. they're waiting to be told what to do. the schools' twitter feed erupted with complaints. even as she tried to recover repeating earlier praise for the teachers, a former official added, sorry, lady. this is so amateur and unprofessional that it's astounding. we deserve better. >> when you give parents choices, they make good choices
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on behalf of their kids. >> reporter: the republican billionaire has long argued for making education better through vouchers. more charter schools, more private schools, more local innovation and less federal involvement. >> government really sucks. and it doesn't matter which party is in power. >> reporter: she's even hinted she'd be fine with the department of education going away. telling an online publication, it would be fine with me to have myself worked out of a job. and this is one of the few things that she and her foes may agree on. at least in part. only two weeks into her tenure, many of them would also like to see her out of a job. erin? >> all right. thank you, tom. we'll be right back. with this level of engineering... it's a performance machine. with this degree of intelligence... ...it's a supercomputer. with this grade of protection... ...it's a fortress. and with this standard of luxury...
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ice age? i.c.e. has new marching orders will be getting thousands for agents to help carry them out. potential changes in every aspect how it does its job expanding who in this country could face deportation. the new guidelines could transform ice and other agencies into the kind of deportation force that candidate trump spoke during the campaign. however you see it, it is a fundamental shift in domestic policy and millions of lives could be about to change. we'll talk about that tonight. so we begin with the new guidelines and pamela brown joins us for that. explain the new guidelines and what they do. >> well, these new dhs guidelines, anderson, could massively expand the number of undocumented immigrants detained and deported. so nearly all of the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the united states could be subject to
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