or post on facebook.com/new day. >> the definition has expanded. >> we need strong borders. >> answering constituents at town halls. >> it's a very sad reminder of the work that must be done. >> there's a cancer of

anti-semitism in the white house and it's pervayer is president trump. >> up first major developments on immigration to tell you about putting millions of people living illegally in the u.s. at risk for deportation. the trump administration has expanded enforcement policies to include any undocument imgrants even suspected of a minor crime. the white house is rejecting the charge that president trump is pursuing mass deportations. >> they await details of the new travel ban and react to president trump's condemnation of anti-semitic threats. we're 34 days into the trump presidency. what do you know, joe? >> chris, the administration says it's taking the shackles off of immigration officers and enforcing existing law but this is a much more robust

enforcement. for the past couple of years the focus has been on deporting criminals convicted of serious crimes. 11 million undocumented immigrants could face deportation. >> everybody here illegally is subject to removal at any time but the priorities that the president put forward and isis is putting forward is to make sure that the people that committed a crime or pose a threat to our public safe trithe priority of their efforts. >> but the trump administration's new bind lines direct immigration and border agents to deport any undocumented immigrant charged convicted or even suspected of a crime. even minor crimes like a traffic violation and shoplifting and crossing the border illegally is

technically criminal. >> anyone found in an undocumented status would be apprehended and deported with due process eroded focused on deporting those convicted of serious crimes and anyone arrested within two weeks of illegally crossing the border could face expedited deportation. now anyone arrested within two years of crossing the border could be deported without due process. immigration officers now have greater authority to decide who stays and who goes. >> the tightrope that the administration will have to walk will be what do they do with the people that are here? what do they do with young people? someone that was 2 years old when they were brought to this country? that's going to be difficult. >> the white house emphasizing that president obama's program protecting dreamers, those brought to the u.s. as children won't be targeted. >> they were brought here in such a way, it's a very, very

tough subject. >> condemning rising anti-semitism. >> targeting our jewish community and community centers are horrible and are painful and a very sad reminder of the work that still must be done to root out hate and prejudice and evil. >> before this the president skirted the issue in news conferences since taking office. >> i am the least anti-semitic person you have ever seen in your entire life. >> president trump meets today

with his brand new secretaries of state and homeland security before they have a huge challenge ahead of them and become increasingly infuriated. >> look your reporting on it this morning is accurate with what i read and it sounds like a the president is doing what he said he would do when he ran for president. >> it sounds to me as if his criteria is broader than what we

have had in the past 8 years and now it can be basically anyone that's here illegally. and eligible for deportation and my question is do you fear that that will be unmanageable, impractical and that it will end up tearing some families apart? >> so let's start from the beginning. everybody here illegally is already intentionally able to be deported. >> yeah. >> anybody that's here illegally now what president obama did is he started a program that actually looked at serious criminals and obama deported over 3 million of these folks that are here illegally. and george w. bush the president i served really racheted down and deported the number in his

second turn so what you're seeing is a trend. they're saying look this undocumented problem is a serious problem and we have to start being honest with the american people. we say we're going to solve it. we have to start solving it. >> just to be clear it sounds like president obama though, you're right, he did deport many people. he prioritized violent criminals and dangerous criminals. that's not what president trump sounds like he is going to do. >> i think you're right. i think how you define whether or not someone is a criminal over and above the fact that they're here criminally but the fact that they might have committed other crimes, how do you define that and how do you get to be on the priority list to be sent back to your country. >> so does it worry you that mr. trump's is more broad? >> no, it doesn't worry me. still their focus is going to be on sending back those that are

violent criminals. those that committed serious crimes but i do think it's important for us all to be honest which is when someone is here in an undocumented state you're here illegally and democrats and republicans have passed these laws over the years and, you know, it's a tough issue but you and i talked about this during campaign, george w. bush that's seen as more moderate on immigration said that everybody here illegally, we should allow many of them to file to be here legally but they all have to go home first. everyone has to go back to their country and that was considered a reasonable step. i think making sure that people understand when you're here illegally that part of the process is a reasonable step. >> we should point out that you are married to a lovely latina who we know very well. she is cuban-american and just one last note on this, you heard

in that piece that joe johns just brought us that children are afraid that their mothers are going to be deported under these newer, broader standards. do you worry about that? >> absolutely. these are human beings, allison. my heart goes out to people in an uncertain state. that being said the last time the country handled immigration in 1986 donald reagan was president. somebody that's a hero will be coming together and is a big part of that and unfortunately there was a moral hazard associated with that where it almost encouraged more people to come over illegally instead of less and i think one of the things that donald trump is trying to do is send the message very clearly that you shouldn't try to cross the border illegally. you should only try to come legally and that helped solve the problem for the future.

and you have to distance a breitbart -- now do you understand why college campuses didn't think he should address the student body. >> i do think the tapes i was made aware of over the weekend that talk about criminal sexual contact with children is beyond any barrier. that being said is its mostly run by people that don't have politics obviously. try to shutdown voices on the right. there's dozens of people that send their time going to college campuses to get the conservative

l libertarian point of view. we're divided in this country in so many ways. shutting down speech isn't going to help us work things out. >> okay but let's just focus on milo because he is a very interesting exhibit a about whether or not it's shutting down speech or it's attempting to have some decorum. he is a professional provocature. you were okay with all the things he's said in the past. >> i'm not okay with it. >> why did you invite him? >> when he's talking about these other questions that have political controversies i'm okay with having -- first of all it's

an invitation and not an endorsement but we want to foster a debate. conservatives can handle disagreement and debate on the stage. i just felt like with an attende group up to 50% college age and younger, my kids are there these questions were going to distract from that political conversation. i think when we're having the political conversation i'm okay with it i don't think that anything goes in politics but it's a problem when we shutdown the political debate. the political debate is what puts a light on intolerance and americans can see that and make their judgments but aren't

people allowed to have a line? here's why there ought to be a cap on women studying science and math. he doesn't like the idea that women can study science and math. the solution to online harassment is simple, women should log off. birth control makes women unattractive and crazy. there's no hiring bias against women. they just suck at interviews. he then says gay rights made us dumber. it's time to get back in the closet. why aren't some college campuses allowed to say that. >> well they're allowed to. a lot of times somebody with my politics is called a hater. we're given a title and category and often times told we're not allowed to speak. it happens a lot on campus and corporate america and it's a

mistake. we're not going to solve our problems as a country and they're not going to come to an agreement on issues by shutting down the conversation and i think what you're really telling me it was the right thing for us to do to take back this invitation because there are certain topics that are beyond the pail. >> i like conversation and open conversation but everybody has their line i guess but let's talk about another conversation and that's president trump. he is going to come and speak there he avoided it last year. what do you think? >> we haven't had a republican president come in his first term since ronald reagan came in 1981. this was a big moment for the conservative movement. he made a statement of respect to the conservative movement

which was the heart and soul of the republican party. >> you know, i don't know what to expect. i hope it's from the heart and i hope he talks to us about what he wants to do with his agenda. i think conservatives are tired of being outside looking in and they're pleased that they have the ability to have a direct impact on policy and they want to hear how this is going to manifest itself. i think they feel good about the way this administration is starting. >> we'll be watching. thank you for the conversation. >> thank you allison. >> we're following a lot of break news there's long lines and delays at philadelphia international airport because they're trying to fix a computer network problem. a spokesperson says computers did not reboot of a scheduled

power outage. they're issuing a ground stop for all american flights departing from philadelphia in bound flights are not effected state officials pushed to defund the organization accusing them of selling body parts but the judge ruled there's no evidence that they were ever involved in that activity. >> for all the talk about what the criminal reality is because of refugees in sweden any notion that there's no problems is wrong. clashing with police and torching vehicles. it may have been a result of increased police pressure on criminals in the area. >> millions of undocumented immigrants are living in america and now this morning they're on edge as the trump administration appears to set the stage for what could be mass deportations so you have a democratic

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take to secure the nation's southern border and prevent further illegal immigration and illegal immigrants swiftly and consistently and humanely. >> all right. the way to do that the white house says is with new immigration enforcement guidelines that president trump's new order may wind up bringing it to full effect. they don't change existing law but the senator says the trump administration is quote setting in motion their mass deportation plan. directing immigration agents to deport anyone undocumented. let's discuss what they have the right to do and what is right to do. thank you for being on the show. >> my pleasure. >> welcome to new day. the criticism is simple. you democrats don't respect the law. you cross the border illegally.

you have broken the law and you're subject to deportation. >> no i'm say nug democrats. criticism of your parties perspective on this that you guys want to ignore the legal reality that if somebody comes into the country illegally they are a criminal and they can be deported. they're just putting into the hands of law enforcement the power to enforce the law. >> one way is to issue more criminal warrants. law enforcement right now honors criminal warrants that have been issued by ice so if they think they're more people that need to be the subject of criminal warrants they can just go ahead and do that. what's alarming to people is broad scope of his language lets the public, gives the public no signal as to who is really in

harms way here. and i think with the number of undocumented immigrants we have in the country the idea that you get them a century ago. and attorney general whose name has them publicly ever since. and they go wrong. and things going badly. >> and to effect you right now. >> you want to refer them, it's that we are the bad and when this language comes out from the white house which reads as anyone that an enforcement agent

thinks could be a bad guy or bad woman they can scoop them up and get rid of them to keep your safe. >> that's the standard for error. and it's breaking the standards of due process on a wholesale basis without a reason. we have the standards in part because of our values. we don't go out and trash people and i think that they're going to need to narrow and clarify who they are targeting so that grandma doesn't worry that nobody is going to come up the stairs and pull her out of her

apartment because that's not what anybody is concerned about. another push back. >> i get your enforcement. we'll make that in a second but just to be clear for the audience there are a lot of people that are worried about grandma and all of her nephews and nieces and grand kids that may be here committing crimes. that's why they voted the way they did in the election. now he is delivering. >> it's going to run up against other things like for instance the law enforcement desire to have law enforcement priorities met. an attorney general or a chief of police who is running a significant gang investigation in a community does not want his relationship with that community and his witness relationships disrupted because somebody's granny got dragged out of her apartment. he has significant gang activity. he has drug dealing and murders and things like that to deal with and that is going to start to become a push back on the administration. you can't go into a community and tell them here's a new priority for you.

it's not a real public safety priority in that community and not expect push back. >> well, you can but there may be a cost political and otherwise. we'll have to see how that plays out. >> it's so perfectly timed. your own party is having within itself. that's ahead tonight on cnn. all candidates. the corporate infiltration of american democracy. tell us, a flag picture on the cover with the word sold over it. what is the main argument of the book? >> that we should not lose confidence in our democracy and in our democratic institutions. and failure of our democratic institutions. that's an occupation of our democratic institutions and has no business being there in the first place and operates as

quitely as it can so that you don't see the hands of the big forces behind the scenes pulling the strings and what is tragic about it is people starting to lose their faith in the democracy that generations of americans fought and bled and died for because it's misbehaving due to the corporate influence. we have to target the real problem which is corporate influence and silt everywhere. in alternative fact land. it's really a pretty extraordinary array of quite tentacles of power being extended. we won this battle before and we can and should do it again. >> quickly, who should lead your party? >> graduate of brown university. he has fought in real life as secretary of labor.

he was really good civil rights division leader. and i don't, you know, we're going to be a good strong party. >> does he get your endorsement? >> i haven't endorsed anybody. just a guy i like. >> thank you. >> my pleasure, good to be with you. >> as i said, dana bash and i are going to moderate this big primetime debate tonight. all 8 candidates that say they should be the leader of the democratic national committee. that's going to set the course for the democratic party. so who is the best? yoining us tonight at 10:00 p.m. eastern please be there only on cnn. allison. >> you and dana are the best. the trump administration changing the way america targets undocumented immigrants so could there be mass deportations. we'll hear both sides. your insurance company

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everybody who is here illegally is subject to removal at any time. that is consistent with every country but the priority that the president has laid forward and the priority that ice is putting forward through dhss

guidance is to make sure that the people that committed crime or pose a threat to public safety are the priority of their everies. >> so the trump administration is laying out broad new guidelines for stricter enforcement of immigration laws and this move is getting mixed reaction. joining us now is the president of the federation for american immigration reform or fair as they call themselves. he supports mr. trump's moves on immigration. we also have the staff attorney for the aclu. he opposes mr. trump's actions. great to see both of you. andre let us start with you. what's your biggest concern about the new guidelines. where are we start. >> this is bringing to life president trump's most devicive campaign rhetoric. like i said before on this program we have to take the president at his word and he's going to bring these things to life. 10,000 new ice agents throughout the interior. people have a misconception that this isn't going to effect them

throughout their daily lives. you have more state and local officers you're going to see an up stick in racial profiling. kmunlts are going to become less safe. >> what do you like about it? >> people come here illegally. that doesn't mean they just have the right to stay. you take a look at all of these orders, if you're here illegally you need to think about going out and buying some luggage, spicer made it clear, trump administration says if you're here illegally you remain deportable and that's a dramatic change. nobody ever decided in this country that immigration was unlimited. that you can break the immigration law and then demand to stay. that you can jump in front of the line in front of millions of people that respect our laws all over the world and just come in and say i'm here, i don't have to go. if you enforce these laws we can reclaim our schools our hospitals and our communities once again for the american

people. >> they broke the law, they came here without the proper procedure. what do you say to him? >> it's not tend of the story. he called it christmas in february. it's living outside of reality. these are our community and these are not people that are the most serious criminals that president trump keeps talking about. >> they didn't do it the right way. why encourage that kind of illegal procedure. >> this is the reality. this is the reality that we live with. there's 11 million undocumented people in this country. they're part of the fabric of this country and we need a humanitarian response to how we handle that. it's unrealistic to say now you're out. these are law abiding residents of this country and what would really make our country great. >> dan i think that andre has something, many different

layers, there's 11 million of them at best calculation so even if you don't like it the impracticality of how you're going to now, i mean, under these broad guidelines all of them are eligible for deportation because they have all broken the law. so do you predict mass deportation and president obama's broad expansion of authority to bring in aliens without limit outside of the law and then provide class based protections for which there was no provision and law and what trump is saying, look, if congress wants to provide amnesty legislatively that's fine but as far as we're concerned we have an obligation to carry out these laws. and any true meaningful reform would start by saying let's

assume there's 11 million people here illegally. why are they here? let's engineer the process by which they were able to come and stay. why they have not been put in removal proceedings. that's what the trump administration is doing at all of these different levels and what people don't understand is after 1994-95 congress has given the executive broad and important powers. for 8 years they refuse to enforce the laws and what they're doing is going back to the normalization if you will. and consistent with the social contract and our role as a sovereign nation. >> your reaction. >> and they have rights on the 4th amendment. they have rights under due process. they have the right to seek immigration relief if they have viable claims. it's unpractical to say people at this point are going to be lead out of this country.

and we have to think and soundly reject this. three out of four favor legalization over deportation. >> i want to ask about this very curious provision. i want to ask you how it's going to work. here's what it says. the u.s. will aim to send any unauthorized border crossers from central america to mexico as they await deportation hearings. so mexico has to take them, how are we as the u.s. going to force mexico to take them? >> well, apparently donald trump has lots of arrows. he has lots of carrots including various leverage on that, who is going to fund the wall. from a procedural process standpoint aliens inside the u.s. that has been here for awhile are entitled to protected minimum due process standards which the american people support those protections. that's called a deportation

hearing. that doesn't mean you're not going to get removed at the end of it and doesn't mean the order isn't going to be executed. now aliens who are at the border enjoy only the procedural process which congress has provided so putting them temporarily across the border while you process them gives the government enormous procedural leverage in how to handle aliens once they get physically into the u.s. >> hold on then, do you understand how that's going to work? >> i don't understand how that's going to work. fundamentally these are mothers and children trying to seek refuge in our country and really remote locations and mothers and children fleeing real violence. we should be asking who do we want to be as americans. do we want to be welcoming or do we want extremist policies like

that. >> i'm sorry. we have to leave it there but we will obviously continue. >> just address that. he's saying that you're saying open boarders. anybody that's fleeing persecution should be able to come here. >> if somebody is fleeing persecution they should be able to make a case from asylum. >> thank you very much. we'll obviously continue the debate. >> so republican law mablgers are facing hostile constituents at town halls all over the country. what has them so riled up? what does this reflect about the mood of the country? next. "best cracked pepper sauce" barbeque trophies: "most ribs eaten while calf roping". yep. greatness deserves recognition. you got any trophies, cowboy? uh, yea, well, uh...

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the antagonists are planted by liberal activists. >> iowa, the senator drowned out, jeers following her all the way out of her town hall. republicans in congress defending the president's policies and packed town halls in their home districts. in california the congressman.

>> in virginia, town hall, he faced off with voters on immigration. >> he didn't ban immigrants. he only banned immigrants from countries that are either state spontaneous source of terror -- >> that's not true, sir. >> just a snapshot of one day of voter outrage prompting the president to tweet that some are actually in numerous cases planned out by liberal activists. sad. organized yes but what we have seen at numerous town halls is empowered constituents. these virginia beach town hall attendees are so upset they wore stickers with their home zip codes to prove they do live in and care about their district. many come from local groups

calling themselves indivisble. a step by stepping manual to oppose the trump administration. guiding the people here to channel their post election anger and aim squarely at members of congress. >> if you can answer any of that i'll sit down and shut up like elizabeth warren. >> i hope you feel better now. >> some have cancelled town halls this week citing security concerns to then only see protestors show up outside of their district offices or post pictures mocking them. a missing poster for congressman darryl isa. picture on milk jugs. from obamacare to climate change d.c. came home only to find angry voters pointing right back at the nation's capitol.

cnn new york. >> you can hear their frustration at being considered some sort of professional agitator and it is interesting that they're wearing their zip codes like no i'm from here. >> and you didn't hear the critics being shouted down by others in the room which happens when you have an insurgent population. you cannot underestimate the risk of a politician filing in the face of an angry constituent. it has real consequences. >> we'll talk more about that. meanwhile there's also some communities living in fear. undocumented immigrants are worried this morning about being deported. other people are worried about the rise in antisemitic threats. so how will president trump quell all the fears? we discuss that next. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever?

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the travel ban. kayleigh mcenany, john pedoris and ana navarro, cnn political commentator. ana, always good to have you here. the fear that comes with the immigration guidelines, you come here illegally, you're here illegally and could be deported. what is the balance of these two things? >> it does cause fear. i don't think people should be fearful. sean spicer clearly said we don't want to touch daca people or dreamers. >> people drought in as children or teens and they have lived here and lived well. >> absolutely. most illegal immigrants are very good people who want a shot at the american dream.

i can promise you that donald trump believes that most americans are good. >> the problem s. the president has said other things as well that went to a broader and negative picture of the immigrant reality. and now these guidelines speak to that notion. it's broad. it's not just about being convicted. it's not even about being arrested or about being charged. if enforcement officials think you are a risk, they could throw you out of the country. how does that play? >> it's reflecting itself in widespread fear in this country. he unleashed something in his base of supporters and through this fear and angst, this distress among so many communities around the country right now. and it's a problem. this is going to sound as a joke. i was at a doctor's office

yesterday. a man was saying to a woman, there are three kinds of people in america right now. those who love trump and think he can do no wrong, those who protest him and can do no wrong and those who are afraid to protest him. but this is not a joke. so many people right now who either see him as a messiah, see him as a manic president or just a normal too much fear to process everything that has happened in the past month. >> john, what's the middle ground? >> well, the middle ground is that we are treating the hispanic community as know it is monolithic in the sense that there are a vast number of -- a large number of hispanics in the united states are american citizens, residents, and then there is a population of illegal immigrants who have a different status and the law clearly says, if you are here illegally, the

government has the right to deport you. we have not enforced that law for 30, 40, 50 years, pretty much, because the economy relied on and still, in some sense, relies on this population to help it including and cook and move along. if the policy in washington changes as a result of a highly contentious election with the president who made it ex treerly clear what it was that he wanted to do, then the policy will change. the question is, how will the enforcement go? will it be horrible, mean, ugly? or will it be orderly and follow very simple transparent model? >> kayleigh, one more beat on this, which is, what is the confidence for people who are worried about this inarguably expansive reckoning of what can be enforced? what is the confidence it won't be that bad? it won't be different? families won't be destroyed? >> two things.

the confidence is that president trump, since he became the republican nominee, has been very clear, consistently clear since he became the general election candidate. there's been a consistent word and verbiage there. secondly, i think you have to look at what happens over the next few weeks. there have only been 600 people caught up in these i.c.e. raids. i think you're exactly right. what happens with the enforcement with president obama, for instance. no one would know that eight years later we'd be sitting here saying he deported, according to abc news, the illegal immigrants. >> he's other captain of deportation, he kicked everybody out, or he was the softest in the world and it seems like they are having it both ways. what's the reality? >> i think you're right. president obama was good at getting criminals out of the country. where he was wrong is not having a border wall, you know, the

refugee program, i would argue, he should have been more careful with that. >> we'll see how it plays out in enforcement. another community in fear, the jewish community. it's not new for them to be victimized in this country. but there is an increase. the call for the president to deal with this with the gusto he does other things he doesn't like on social media. here's what he said most recently. >> the anti-semitic threats targeting our jewish community and community centers are horrible. and are painful. and a very sad reminder of the work that still must be done to root out hate and prejudice and evil. >> now john, god love him, but when he's talking about fake news and doesn't have the facts on his side, he's full-throated and he's angry and not reading off a piece of paper. with this, he is.

he's reading off a piece of paper. he's passive. he didn't take it on on social media. nobody on this show has alleged that he's an anti-semite but why isn't he as outraged about this as other things? >> i don't know. but having garnered support by forces in the united states, unlike other presidents from ronald reagan onward who got the endorsement of the kkk and waited four days to say he disavowed it, we have threats to jewish community centers and the white house spokesperson refuses to use the word jew or jewish when he's talking about it. this is a very perplexing thing and very disturbing. these threats to hate crimes against jews in the united states in percentage terms are very large in the world of hate

crimes and the united states feels very threatened but what they feel is the possibility that things are going in a dark direction and it is very disturbing that the president of the united states has to wait two weeks for anybody to say anything about it. >> one of the reasons a community doesn't have to live in fear is they know that everybody has their back and there are going to be ugly people wherever you go but the leaders say not on my watch. doesn't that need to happen now in the same way that donald trump doesn't like something that is reported? >> it took so much for him to say those words. what i would say is there is so much to be said for american leadership, we're not going to get it on this issue.

he doesn't want to mess with the support from the anti-semites that did support him. when he's talking against the media, when we all remember during his rallies, people shooting jew fa and looking at the media, i think one has to do with the other. i think there is a correlation between his attacks on the media and a lot of these anti-semitic feelings. what i would say to america is, we've got to do it ourselves. we've got to be vigilance against anti-hate crimes. when we see something, we must fight it and denounce it and condemn it. we must report it. forget president trump. forget relying on him. he's not going to fix this. he's not going to be full-throated about this.