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. >> thanks so much for joining us. ac 360 with anderson starts right now. before. thanks for joining us. we begin with breaking news. the trump administration withdrawing a pledge of support that president obama made to transgender students withdrawing guidance that the obama administration had sent to public schoolings on the use of bathrooms by transgender students. cnn jeff zellany joins us with the latest. first of all, explain what this is and what this isn't. it's not an executive order. it's essential withdrawing guidance in a letter put out from the obama administration. >> exactly. it essentially is just sort of directing schools across the country to rescind and take back what president obama said last year to provide special protections for transgender students in rest rooms and other things.
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it's essentially a federal government saying that it's up to individual schools, individual states to make these own protections. it's not an executive order at all. this is coming out tonight from the department of justice and the department of's education in a joint statement saying they basically are sending the directive back to the states to make these decisions. it's not without controversy, even here at the white house. we do have a first look at a white house statement that will be coming out shortly. it says as president trump has clearly stated, he believes the policy regarding transgender bathrooms should be decided at the state level. the joint decision made today by the department of justice and the department of education returning power to the states paves the way for an open and inclusive process to take place at the local level with input with parents, students, teachers, and administrators. again, anderson, this is a big deal. it's weighing in on social issues which we've not seen a president do a lot, and indeed, it is even controversial inside
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his own cabinet. >> yeah. i mean, you have some reporting on that. the education secretary betsy devos, her involvement how that all played out. >> indeed, anderson. this is fascinating. yesterday in the oval office with attorney general jeff sessions and education secretary betsy devos, they were at strong disagreements here over what they should do about rescinding this guidance, and we are told that the secretary of education betsy devos was arguing strongly that protections be placed for students. she actually issued a statement of her own this evening separate of all of this that is offering a window into her disagreement, and part of that statement as she says we have a responsibility to protect every student in america. she called it a moral obligation. we are told she's going to be meeting with some student groups tomorrow to talk about this as well, anderson. this is in early and pretty rare disagreement from two cabinet saelkts. obviously both conservative, but
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betsy devos has a quiet history supporting gay rights. that's what made this decision so interesting. this is all coming now because there is a supreme court case on this that is going to be happening in the coming weeks. that's why the administration had to act today. >> so it's important to point out that the administration is not replacing the obama era guidance with new guidance. they're essentially just taking a hands off position saying it's up to the states, it's up to local school boards. >> exactly. kind of splitting this in the middle. they certainly could have issued a new executive order or new guidance to sort of, you know, take away or reassert what the president did last year. president obama. they're simply taking his away. it seems to me, anderson, this is something that the administration had to make a statement on this because they are a party to that virginia case that is going to be before the supreme court here, but if the president had wanted to issue something more, it he certainly could have here.
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they're splitting it about in the middle, but it's essential very controversial, anderson. >> appreciate the update. joining us to talk about it, cnn legal analyst, and cleef political an lust gloria borger, contributor to the hill, former congressional black caucus director angela rooi and also conservative matt, the president of free the people. receip let's start off with you. we have a soundbyte from donald trump when he was on the "today" show with matt lauer talking about the use of rest rooms by transgender people. let's watch. >> very few complaints the way it is. people go. they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate. there has been so little trouble. >> do you have people working in your organization? >> i don't know. i really don't know. i probably do. i really don't know. >> it caitlyn jenner were to you can away into trump tower and want to use the bathroom, you
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would be fine with her using any bathroom she chooses? >> that is correct. >> it's interesting to hear him on the campaign trail talking about students and kids in zool. >> social issues have never been the bullwork of donald trump. he wants to talk about other things. he is more socially liberal, i believe than a lot of his evangelica evangelicals, and his attorney general is not. the argument between in it's an argument between jeff sessions and betsy devos must have been quite interesting because her first statement here was that the federal government has a moral obligation that no individual school district or state can advocate when it's regarding protecting children in school, and so clearly she on the other side of this, what the obama administration did was saying that title nine says that you cannot have discrimination because of your sex, period, and
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they applied it to transgender bathrooms and what this administration is saying, no, no, no, leave it up to the states, which is a conservative point of view. i'm not sure it's donald trump's point of view, quite honestly, but it is his administration's? >> legally, it seems like they're on pretty firm ground. >> they are. there are a couple of things going on. the fact that donald trump says in an interview that he doesn't care where a person uses the bathroom in one of his own buildings is a big difference from his administration withdrawing this dear colleague letter that the obama administration submitted. the central issue in the supreme court case is that letter because it was deference to that letter and the obama administration's position that was the basis for the ruling in the lower court. it is more than just withdrawing a letter. it has very significant legal affects on the supreme court case, and it's about as was just said, whether or not title nine extends to transgender students
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and whether or not that the obama administration's letter should be given deference. if it sort of doesn't exist anymore. >> the white house has along with this rescinding they have said that they're not tolerating bullying or tolerating discrimination, and other avenues to -- >> they are withdrawing detection from the most vulnerable people in the society. human rights campaign, the -- says 21 americans transjeshd people were killed in 2015 the last year we have data for in acts of violence. now we're talking about kids. that was all americans. some of the most vulnerable kids. this says something about priorities. you know, in bill clinton's first 100 days, we went out and tried to -- hugely controversial. people said you got elected for jobs. why were you doing that? i'm proud we did, but it did show a priority that clinton was going to step out on those issues. we're seeing now trump step out where we didn't think he might on these divisive social issues. i don't think this helms him
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significantly. based on what he said if he is doing this now? >> as one of the panelists brought up, i think he can personally believe that i personally agree with him. i do not mind in caitlyn jenner uses the same rest room as me. as a policy basis, deference to the states is a core key component to conservative ideology, and having states decide this, paul, i would pointed out to you that the discrimination laws that protect transgender individuals are still in place. donald trump wants to protect these individuals. however, the reason conservatives -- i do think there's a viable argument. not that transgender -- this can be utilized by some men, for instance, to go into female bathrooms. it's happened at target that has the same from policy in place. men taking advantage of the policy. not transgender individuals. straight men coming in and really, you know, being a predator against women.
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>> transgender also doesn't mine that someone is not straight. i just want to make this point because i think it's important. we are, of course, in black history month. we know the hard fought battle that americans had for civil rights, and these same civil rights were meant to extend to lgbtq communities, and i think regardless of whether you agree with someone using your bathroom or not, this is a major step backwards, and donald trump allowed this because he had a loyal right or die supporter in jeff sessions. he is giving jeff sessions what he wants. i think i forgot about what he said on the "today" show, and it's all about loyalty to donald trump. we've heard that time and time again. >> it's interesting because as candidate he did repeatedly bring up the lgbtq community. that was the phrase he always used. i mean, t is for transgender people. >> he was certainly more -- the most liberal on the debate stage of all the candidates up there.
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specifically dealing with schools, and i think it's a much different scenario when you are talking about him allowing someone like caitlyn jenner to use the rest room at trump tower and these bathrooms in public schoolings where parents cannot be there. that's an important distinction. he said this is consistent. this ruling or this memorandum that came out is consistent with title nine. title nine doesn't specifically reference transgender bathrooms. sean spicer alluded that today in this news conference. that's where we're going to have the distinction. while tler protections for sexual discriminate nation, it doesn't apply. title nine. >> we should expected it should apply, and that is what a leader does. you don't defer to states. >> thaesen the law, where the problem is that's not the law. we've never had a system where you look at a law and say i think some extra words should be in there. that's a danger rs proposition. that's not just a text approach.
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that is the law approach. the central issue here is whether or not the law is what the obama administration says it is when there literally is not the word in there that we -- you may want that word to be there there, but it is not. the question is if the administration no locker wants the law to mean that and withdrawing that request, then it's like a tree that never fell in the forest. >> this will clearly be decided at the supreme court with this. auto with case like abortion, they could be capable -- >> we're going to take a quick break. more breaking news. angry voters confronting gop lawmakers at town halls across the country. we'll see what's going on. later on, steve bannon and a mystery. who is really speaking for the president's world leaders brsh is it steve bannon or other t
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. more breaking news. voters across the country bringing the town hall to senators and congress members almost seven years ago. they were on the -- now it's the gop's turn as one lawmaker after another comes under fire this week as you see even tonight. in a moment we'll talk to one congresswoman who faced a fair amount of unhappy voters. also with the white house is up against and how they are explaining it for now. president trump's claiming that it's actually professional protesters or activists doing the shouting. first, quick roundup from cnn's
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phil maddingly. >> reporter: republican lawmakers back home from washington. facing emotion, sharp and often shouted questions on their plans to repeal and replace health care. >> as well as pushback on president trump and his immigration policy. >> i'm a muslim. who is going to save me here? who is going to stand behind me and save me? >> i've been road side bombed once, but i'm here. nobody cared about me. but i was with united states armed forces back in afghanistan, that i get shot. i didn't get shot because of my mom and dad.
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>> the outcry now raising questions as to whether the gop agenda driven in part by the president or the republican majority could be in danger. republicans say their hold on congress is safe. on twitter president trump dismissed confrontations as being concocted by liberal activists calling them "so-called angry crowds." today at the white house his spokesman tried to stake out a middle ground. >> i think some people are clearly upset, but there is a bit of professional protester mg manufactured base. >> the gop says the anger at the town halls is not the same as the frustration vented against obama care during the early days of the tea party mooumt back in 2009. >> when you look at some of the districts and some of the things, it is not a representation of a member's district or an incident. says a loud group, small group of people disrupting something in many cases for media
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attention. >> still, from lereliably red districts in states to the swingiest of districts, the demonstrations are real. and are getting attention. gop lawmakers now grappling with the same reality faced by their democratic counterparts just eight years ago. whether to avoid the face-offs a altogether -- >> when do we want it? >> now. >> or to openly embrace the raucus opposition. >> i don't mind boisterous. i'm having fun. i like having debate. >> phil maddingly joins us. is the white house monitoring what's happening in the town halls? >> they're keenly aware of what's happening. they dismiss it publicly. the president has done so many times. they recognize what's happening right now could get bigger, and that could be problematic. not just for their agenda going forward, but for their electoral prospects in the midterms and maybe even beyond. one of the most interesting elements of this entire process
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that i have learned about is republican leaders making very clear to outside gop groups, outside conservative groups that they need help right now and help is starting to come. american action network and out outside conservative groups starting to spend $2.2 million on a television ad by in 21 districts of republican plebz th members that could be in danger. they need a lot of air cover, and they need it fast. >> phil maddingly. let's go now to republican leonard lance's town mall tonight in new jersey seventh district where crowds skrb protesting outside, and the main room holds 00 people. there's an overflow space saz as well. preparing what's going on at the town hall where you are at? >> it's still going on right now. it's been a passionate if -- there's been loof q and a back and fort. the thing that i've heard from this room, and you can see how packed it is. the congressman is at the podium taking questions. what everyone has said is that
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they want to hear his answers. all of this is full. the balcony is full. that area, that's people who simply could not get in beyond an overflow room where there is a live stream. there is so much interest. the congressman had to book another town hall. a second town hall for this week wresh the questions have been about the aca. they have been about women's health, the environment. i want you to lisp to thten to moment. a congressman was candidate about president trump and whether there were grounds for impeachment. listen i to the exchange. >> i am a lawyer by training, and i certainly do not want to prejudice how i might -- how i might have to vote on any -- on any matter of that regard.
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i think the responsibility in the house of representatives to impeach or not to impeach is one of our most important responsibilities. as you know, an impeachment is the equivalent of an indictment, and the united states would be the judge and jury in effect and it would take a two-thirds vote in the senate to convict and remove a president or other high official from office. >> the congressman did say, though, it was important for the intelligence committees to do their work. that it is their job first. crowd not so excited about that particular answer. we should point out that you were talking about phil maddingly's reporting and 2018. this is one of those districts that d.c. democrats are looking at and hoping to flip. he won by 6% here. >> thanks very much. joining us now tennessee
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republican congresswoman marcia blackburn who faced constituents yesterday. congresswoman, thanks for being with us. president donald trump tweeted -- i want to quote him directly. it said the so-called angry crowds and home districts of some republicans are actually numerous cases planned out by liberal activists. i'm wondering for you, is that what you saw in your meeting yesterday? was the anger you faced real or is the president, you know, indicating its cases planted out by liberal activists? >> anderson, the anger indeed was real from the individuals that were in the room. what we found was so interesting. a little bit less than one-third in the room were very constituents of mine. we had a couple -- several that identified themselves as being from outside of the district. a couple from nashville. one from murphy's bureau. they came to that. what with he did hear from one of the city commissioners later was that some of the residents
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of fairview where i had my legislative update were not able to get into the meeting and, of course, the reservation or the seats had been taken by those that were actually from outside of my district. i've heard from a lot of my constituents. they were disappointed. we've told them to come on by the office and sit down with me and we'll talk about the issues because they were disappointed they capitol couldn't get in and participate. this is something i do in this kplunt every ye community ever year. they look forward to it, where it was full. >> with the president's tweet, it seems that it can be both. you can have real anger and also have some planning by liberal activists where, there was a "new york times" article about your meeting that said the number of the people attending were rallied by the local branch of indif izible started by democratic activists and they said they held two meetings and discussed which issues to rise.
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>> anger that you are saying is real? >> well, sure. it is a group -- i have a real good friend who lives in davidson county, nashville, supported president obama twice. voted for him twice. she got an e-mail from organizing from america. encouraging her to go to my town hall and then the link to the booklet of how to disrupt or question she was just absolutely horrified. she said, of course, i'm not going to do this. she said i just want you to be aware of it. sure, we know that. we know that there is organizing going on by those that are on the left. you know, people that like my friend, she e-mailed other friends of hers and said i think this is so inappropriate. we don't live in her district, and i don't think we should go and take away time from people that are constituents of hers. like i said, about one-third of
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them less than one-third were my constituents. the others are people who came in to use that as an opportunity to question and -- >> how do you compare this to the tea party crowd that began in 2009? sean spicer said these are professional protesters. >> that's the same criticism that democrats made against tea party protesters back in 2009. there was astroturf. >> i think that there are a couple of differences there that i would encourage you in if every and your viewers to think about. the tea party organization is something that was very grassroots and started from the bottom up. it was people that were really bringing forward issues. in tennessee it started with the state income tax issue. most of it found it to genesis, in local issues. people showing up to help better communities fight state policies. >> isn't obama care the focus
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for many of these people? >> and then let me give you the counter balance to that first. tea part was from the bottom up. what you see now with this, it is being driven from the top down. you have national groups that are pulling in and trying to activate activists at the local level to go into other members and districts and attend these halls, take up those seats. >> wait a minute. i'm not sure you could possibly -- >> backfire on them. >> is that really fair, though? you acknowledge the anger is real. i don't think you can actually say that because there are groups activist groups which are enkurjing people putting out videos about how to attend meetings that it's not also bubbling up from the bottom. we saw a huge turnout at what was billed as a women's march in washington and satellite marches in cities across the country brsh there is afint groups that have encouraged people out of
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that march to go to your meetings. >> but, anderson, it is being driven by national organizations. basically it is being drin by national organizations and then trying to direct -- >> that's what i said about the tea party -- >> and the tea party was from the bottom up. it was local activists that found -- well, you know, i think that there is a different framework on what was happening then and what is happening now. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. >> i should also point out you went ahead and had your meeting. there's a lot of folks deciding not to have meetings. >> i went out. i met my protest organizers who was doing the alternative town hall. we've had a handshake and did a photo together, went out and spoke to the alternative town hall once i finished inside. thanked them for being there. told them we need to make certain everyone's voice is
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heard in this, and then, you know, it was a good day. >> i appreciate your time. thank you. >> absolutely. thank you. >> secretary of state rex tillerson and homeland security secretary -- are facing a tall order even as president trump's now new immigration policy is facing backlash. the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the only brand ask
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. a short time ago secretary of state rex still tillerton she would meetings on trade, immigration and the border. tensions dwrofl between the u.s. and mexico are the highest they've been in decades. earlier today mexico's foreign minister flat out said his country will not accept the new immigration directives where, it's just the latest in a cross-border backlash. thousands of people have taken to the streets in mexico city protesting the trump white house policies including plans to build a wall at the border. mexico is threatening boycotts and mexico's president canceled his trip to the white house last month. it's really a lot to discuss my two guests. former sheriff and all -- sheriff of pimath can, arizona. sheriff naper whe napier, your
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covers an area -- do you have the budget and the capacity to be able to take this on under the new obama administration directives? >> my county is about 9,200 square miles. we have a population of about one million people. just providing a traditional law enforcement service to pima county is a strain in i was. we don't have the budgetary capacity, the personnel resources or the jail space station to engage in proactive immigration enforcement. this morning there were about 1,840 people in my jail, and we only have space for about 2 240us. then we're completely full. we don't have capacity in our detention is it facility. i don't have a lot of spare capacity in my field operations to go out and actively engage in immigration enenforcement. >> there's nothing really new here. the law will be enforced and it wasn't being enforced before. won't it come as significant cost to local law enforcement? >> the main burden falls, and
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this is where the system you should the supremacy clause. this is the prime role for enforcement of the immigration laws, and now they're actually going to be enforced. you have the border patrol agents, and then you have ice enforcement officers. they're the ones who are charged largely who work in partnership for those local municipalities and sheriff's offices, across the country who choose to engage with the 287 g enforcement program. however, it even in arizona we had the widely debated senate bill 1070. it even said there that our requirement was simply to call ice or the border patrol and see what action that they wanted to take. now the president is given very clear direction that there will be no longer any catch and relea release. when they apprehend somebody, they don't just give them an nta, a no to appear, and they show up in court 30 days later and they'll be held in custody
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and they'll be returned back to their country of origin. second, they'll prioritize the arrest apprehension and deportation of the criminal element. this incident isn't all illegals that 11 million to 14 million that are here. it's the 1 million, 74% of which have felony convictions. these are the bad guys that we should all want to be apprehended where. >> what about that? a lot of critics of what the administration is doing says that actually the, kind of the definition of criminality has now been expanded is at the at the interpretation of law enforcement personnel. you don't even have to be convicted of a crime even if just an accusation of a crime is enough to be deported. >> well, we actually very much support president trump's initiative to put more resources on the border and to finally make a good effort to secure the border. last week i met with secretary kelly, and we had a product i have discussion between secretary kelly and the other border sheriffs realizing that a
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one size fits all approach doesn't work. my county is very different than yuma or santa cruz. we need to have these resources on the border. we absolutely welcome additional resorlss to help us with criminal justice problems associated with illegal immigration. >> there's a lot of noise and discussion coming out washington d.c., and i think that will man fs itself with policy and
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implementati implementation. right now we've always cooperated with our federal partners, had an excellent relationship with border patrol and ice, and we really embrace that relationship. we have great relationship with our border slevs. i don't see a lot changing for pima county. i just see more resources being put towards the border and probably a lot more concerted effort in securing the border ichts. >> all right. sheriff, i appreciate you being on again. thank you. just ahead white house strategist bannon is one of president trump's closest advisors. is he actually practicing a stealth he diplomacy, sending mixed signal. cnn hosts the debate for dnc chair dana bash and that's a preview. that starts at 10:00 p.m. we'll have a preview after a short break. you have access to the right information request at the right moment. and when you filter out the noise, it's easy to turn your vision into action. it's your trade. e*trade.
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. tonight there's mixed messaging at the highest levels of the trump administration. a week before vice president pence visited brussels to reaffirm u.s. commitment to the european union white house strategist steven bannon was sending a different signal to germa germany's u.s. nabs. there's a question about who in the white house is spiebing for
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president trump. a -- vice president mike pence offered these words of assurance to european allies that their ties with the u.s. were strong. >> continued cooperation and partnership with the european union. >> days earlier chief white house strategist steve bannon delivered a different message to germa germany's ambassador to washington. in what diplomats describe as a combative discussion, bannon called the e.u. a flawed institution and told ambassador peter that the white house paid for its strengthening ties with individual countries, rather than dealing with the 27 nation block as a whole. the same anti-e.u. populist message he articulated as dmeef of the right wing website breitbart news at the vatican. >> people in certain countries want to see sovereignty.
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they don't believe in this kind of pan-european union. >> both witig and the german government declined to comment. the white house gee roo he jekted the diplomat's account of the meeting calling the discussion just a quick hello. the conversation reflected concerns across europe about the trump administration's policy towards the european union. last month the european union president called the trump administration a threat along side sooi china, russia, and radical islam. >> the change in washington puts the european union in a difficult situation. the new administration seeming to put into question the last 70 years of american foreign policy. >> donald trump supported britain leaving the e.u. even calling himself mr. brexit on twitter. days before his inauguration he called the e.u. basically a vehicle for germany in an interview with british and german newspapers.
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he is so smart in getting out. i think that's what people want. people want their own identity, so if you asked me, i believe others will leave. >> european officials are hoping members of president trump's cabinet like defense secretary jim mattis and secretary of state rex tillerson would help kwuns the president to cooperate with the e.u. wrv with right wing nationalist movements gaining ground in elections in the netter lanz, france, and germany, the mixed messages are causing widespread anxiety throughout europe. cnn, washington. >> a lot to talk about. served as deputy secretary of state and deputy national security advisor in the obama white house and back with us cnn political analyst gloria borger. how significant is it if there is a division between the president's top advisor steve bannon and maybe the president and his vice president and in
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some cases his secretary of defense and others? >> it's deeply troubling both as a matter of process and a matter of substance. the process, there clearly has been a dysfunctional national security council, and the new national security advisor will hopefully get that back in order. you have an nfc that isn't working and parallel structures, including the strategic initiatives group that mr. bannon runs trying to have policy around and above the nfc without trying to get input. that is not a good recipe for good sound policy. undermining the e.u. really runs counter to 70 years of american foreign policy, and there's a good reason the e.u. was constructed in the first place, and that was because he extreme nationalism led to world war ii, and the europeans after the war wanted to insure that there would be peace. the countries would want be fighting each other. instead, they would be cooperating, trading with each other. that led to the birth of the
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european union. the direction mr. bannon wants is a recipe for going back to the conflicts of the 20th century, not the peace. >> it's really interesting. you have a vice president of the united states talking to nato, reassuring them, talking about the e.u. you have the secretary of defense telling iraqis, you know, we're not there to take your oil. essentially, you know, saying different things than the president of the united states is saying. it's a strange position for the vice president and even the secretary of defense. >> it is. you know, this wouldn't be the first time that the vice president has been in an awkward situati situation. we know the situation where he went out and said that flynn did not have conversations with the russians about lifting sanctions.
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>> i think that is the question that is circulating among world leaders. particularly when you have reports about steve bannon having private conversations in which he effectively disses the european union and says we want to do bilotral deals and we're not interested in the european union, et cetera. kw what do you believe? i think it's difficult for them. >> right. that is what's missing from all of this is what does president trump actually believe? >> that's the question that everyone is asking. you know, the vice president, secretary of defense, secretary of homeland security made good presentations when they were in europe trying to reassure the europeans. except that no one could say that they were actually reflecting the president's views, and no one could say that any of these individuals, despite what they were saying, were actually in the room where
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it matters. that's a real problem because it's sending mixed messages, and no one knows who to actually believe. >> you know, you also have a secretary of state who seems also out of the loop to a great degree. there are reports that when the president spoke and it was netanyahu and he said, well, it wasn't kmid to a two-state solution. it depends what you folks agree with, that that came as a surprise to everybody. and so what do you do in that situation? it doesn't just apply to the yu european union but also the middle east. >> you have secretary hailly saying they support a -- >> is she speaking for the president. it's just confusing. >> tony, if the bannon world view prevails and the trump administration favors -- and views the e.u. as a flawed institution, what does that do for the balance of power, particularly given the president's statements about
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russia? >> well, first, it's been a good vehicle tore even the smaller nations of europe to make sure their voice of heard, they had input. mostly -- most significantly, the e.u. has been kwha has brought europe together and has diffused the extreme nationalism that led to conflict and led to war. if we're part of trying to take that apart, we're playing russia's game, which has also been trying to undermine the e.u., and we're harkening back to a time when countries were going at each over and not cooperating with etch auto other. that's not a place to go. >> coming up, the democratic party searching for leadership and direction in the era of president trump. tonight cnn hosted a debate for the eight ktsds for dna chair. if that's next with a look ahead. you could spend the next few days weeding through w2s, pay stubs and bank statements to refinance your home. or you could push that button. [dong] [rocket launching]
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decade. and the reason isn't just because the democrats lost the white house. it isn't just because the democrats lost control of the, didn't get back control of the senate, they don't have control of the house of representatives. but because of the way that the democrats have lost across the country. governors' mansions, state legislatures. they are simply depleted. so the people who want to be the dnc chair are going to make the case and more importantly how the democrats are going to come back from that, how are they going to rebuild. and it is almost rebuilding from the ground up. and there are lots of different directions they can go and these candidates will make their case as to what direction it will be. >> and who finally makes the decision on who is the dnc chair? >> the vote is going to be on saturday. it is the dnc membership that casts the votes. and that is going to happen, you know, a lot of jockeying back and forth.
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but a lot of it is going to be what they hear on this stage tonight, and what they hear from sort of membership and friends and act vests back home watching tonight. is it, should it go in the direction of kind of the younger grassroots activists, those who supported bernie sanders, for example? or should it go in the more traditional, establishment vein that supported hillary clinton and in recent years barack obama. those are the questions that they're asking, and also, can they figure out a way to harness the very real activism that is happening. you've been showing it all day long, the town halls. democrats or activists coming out, really railing against donald trump. how is that going to happen? and how are they going to figure out how to take that and turn it into people going to the voting booths, not just in four years
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but in two years when we're talking about the mid-term elections. >> fascinating. we'll be watching at 10:00 eastern tonight. right here on cnn. just an hour ahead, in the next hour of 360, angry constituents share their concerns at gop town halls. some heated exchanges as well happening tonight. details ahead. of your dreams... and together, you had the kid of your dreams. now you can put them in the car of your dreams... for a lot less than you might think. with a certified pre-owned mercedes-benz, you can enjoy legendary safety, innovation and performance at a price you can afford. and that's a pretty sweet dream. visit the certified pre-owned sales event, now through february 28th. only at your authorized dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing.
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breaking news on the long-anticipated new travel ban from the white house and when it could arrive. and the pulling back of federal protections for transgender students. sarah murray joins us now from the white house. what's the latest we're hearing from the administration tonight? >> reporter: what this administration has effectively done is rolled back these directives that came from the obama administration saying that transgender students should be able to choose whatever bathroom they choose. what trump said is this is an issue left to the states, not the federal government. i want to review the statement put out tonight. as president, trump has clearly stated that he regards policy regarding transgender bathrooms should be decided at the state