is set to speak at his first big social event. a short time ago, president trump tweeted about it. big dinner tonight at white house with governors. his first prime time speech before a joint session of congress is just two days away. plus a brand-new version of his controversial travel ban is also expected this week. i want to begin with white house correspondent athena jones. the president seems like he's ready to talk health care, but are we going to get specifics? >> reporter: i'm not sure we're going to get any specifics from the president tonight. we'll wait and see what we hear. but we do know this is one of his main campaign promises,

repealing and replacing obama care that covers everybody at less cost. this is a huge priority for him, a huge priority for other republicans on capitol hill. but it's also a huge challenge. we're seeing in districts across the country where members of congress are being confronted by con stitch wents about being fearful of losing their health care. governor john kasich who actually met with president trump and talked about health care, talked about those town halls and the impact they're having on face the nation on cbs this morning. >> i don't understand everything that's going on with these town halls, but what i think is's having an impact on, hey, people are watching. i don't think they mind reform, but don't take everything away. >> reporter: and one other point that governor kasich made, is

look, there's 20 million people who now have health coverage because of the affordable care act. and making sure that the new plan doesn't leave anybody suddenly without health care is their goal. something that former house speaker john boehner said last week, he never should have sold it as repeal and replace, what's going to happen is they're going to end up fixing it, improving the law and putting a conservative box around it. and the reason they're gotting to repeal and replace and replace it. because all of these years of his time in capitol hill, republicans couldn't agree on a health care plan. and i want to now bring in david gergen, cnn's political analyst. before we talk about the president's speech and other things, i want to talk about news just in to cnn, cnn is

confirming that phillip bergen, trump's pick for navy secretary. and the president's pick for army secretary withdrew, what's your reaction? >> one of the things donald trump has done is go for very successful people to be in these positions, and that means they're usually wealthy and that also means they've got very tangled finances. so the apparently secretary nominee, couldn't get past the government ethics questions to go forward with the nomination. but i also think it underscores, dana, the -- something that hasn't gotten much attention, and that is secretary mattis, who oversees the navy secretary and the army secretary, is seen as one of the real -- conflict with the white house over the

confirmation process in general. he sees national defense as a bipartisan issue and therefore he's willing to go for democrats to fill some of these positions. even hillary's first choice to run the defense department, her name has been in play, the white house says it doesn't want to go down that track, but right now they're at lagger heads. >> i want to talk about this withdrawal by the nominee for labor secretary. just a little over a week ago, sean spicer, white house spokesman tweeded out a denial that this was going to happen. spicer tweeted those people would be wrong, just spoke to him and he's 100% committed to being the next secretary of the navy pending confirmation. that was over a week ago, but it

was pretty clear there was some concern by this nominee for a while about the fact that it would be difficult for him to untangle himself from his financial holdings. >> the navy secretary, the navy secretarial job is one of the most prestigious in government. it usually goes to very successful people. it's a shame he went down over there. and sean spicer may not want to call everything fake news just because you disagree with it. >> i'm going to move on to my next question after i give it a little amen. we have seen the president very much in campaign mode, during this early weeks of his presidency, as you said, talking about fake news, going enough further, calling media outlets the enemy of the american people, which he doubled down on this past week, he accused the minority leader chuck schumer of

crying fake tears, calling democrats sore losers. i could go on and on and on and on. tuesday, do you expect that kind of donald trump rhetoric, or do you expect him to shift gears and be different? >> we have waited so long for donald trump to change, and it's very apparent he's not. i think there will be red meat in there for his followers. we know the draft is being written primarily by stephen miller, who had the major hand in drafting that very tough, hard hitting inaugural address. so i can imagine that the tone won't be much different, what we'll be looking for, is he really going to say more about substance? the calendar is starting to work against them. they're losing momentum in the instra grur, they're pointing out that the infrastructure bill may not even be considered in a serious way in the next year.

that's a draw back from where they had been. when president obama went up and gave his first prime time speech to the congress, back in like february of his first year, you'll recall with all your days of covering congress so well, that he not only presented the speech, but he put out a 146-page document, outlining his policies across the board. and two days later, he sent up his official budget. this administration is behind schedule in putting some meat on the bones, so to speak, so determine exactly what they do want in these bills. >> given the fact that you have so much experience, being on the inside, in those white house rooms with the oval office itself, democrats and republicans, if the president called you after this segment and said david, what do you think? >> i guarantee you that won't

happen. >> just go with it. what would you say? or if you want to give him a message on television. >> what does he have to do for tuesday night? >> yes. >> i think it's really important to lay out a clear road map of where he's going from here. he with justification is going to stand up and say here are all the changes i have made by executive action, and those are thing he could do unilaterally. but he hasn't signed one major piece of legislation go through. what he needs now is turn from the face of doing unilateral things, to how do you get the congress to act on these really huge promises that he's made. that's going to be a consistent theme, i made promises during the cam pain, i'm going to deliver on the promises, how are you going to do that? what are the propositions that you're going to try to get passed, i think people are going to be looking for more hard

answers as we go forward. even his followers want to know where we're going. he could lose momentum if he doesn't seize this opportunity to lay out a clear road map and get going on that legislative side of his agenda. >> i'm old enough to remember when people were all over president obama after he did so many executive actions. i'm sure at some point it's coming. let's talk about -- >> don't worry about that, you're still very young. you've got a lot of years ahead. >> thank you, thank you, that fishing expedition worked. thank you. the president is skipping the white house correspondent dinner. president nixon was the first one to out right skip it. >> president reagan couldn't go because he was shot. other than that you have to go all the way back. >> so what are the optics of it? >> well, i guess, you know, he

takes a short-term hit. but probably save himself from a night that would be very uncomfortable for him. you can understand why he doesn't want to go. but i do think the optics also underscore that the relationship between the president and the press has become sfrel unhealthy. unhealthy for the participants, very unhealthy for democracy and it would be nice to see the president reach out an olive branch here very soon and the press to take it up. because we need to get -- it's not just washington needs to hit a reset button, the press really needs to hit a reset button. as we were just discussing, president trump will make his first address before congress, you can watch it right here on cnn live, stay tuned for the

democratic response from across the country. our coverage begins at 8:00 eastern. and i will be moderating a town hall with gop senators john mccain and lindsay graham on wednesday night at 8:00. the father of a navy s.e.a.l. who died in yemen wants to know why his son had to die. this and more coming up next, you're live in the cnn newsroom. ♪

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critical about the mission's necessity and the probl necessity. in his interview with the miami herald, bill owens warns the white house not to, quote, hide behind my son's death to prevent an investigation. president donald trump did make an effort to be there when owens' body was returned to the united states. the white house is being very careful to not be too critical of the navy s.e.a.l.'s father, but this morning on abc, white house spokeswoman sarah huckabee hailed owens has a hero, but also pointed out that the mission collected very valuable intelligence. >> i know he paid the ultimate sacrifice when he went on that mission, and i know that the

mission has a lot of different critics, but it did yield a very substantial amount of intel and resources that helped save american lives and other lives and as much as, again, i can't imagine what this father is going through, i think he's -- his son is a true american hero, and we should forever be in his son's debt. >> does the president want an investigation? >> i haven't had a chance to speak with him directly about that, but i would imagine that he would be supportive of that. >> and in fact those investigations are already under way, according to the pentagon, there's a standard set of investigations that takes place after the death of any s.e.a.l., and this one will delve specifically into owens' death. and coming up, press secretary sean spicer is taking it upon himself to try to find and expose white house leakers. we'll look at what he's doing to

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a crackdown to stop white house media leaks has sprung a leak, it seems. politico first reported and now cnn has confirmed that white house press secretary sean

spicer reportedly checked his aides phones for information that might have been leaked to reporters. he checked for encrypted message a apps. we're going to talk to host of "reliable sources" brian stelter. folks at the white house? >> not normal. did you all ever have your phones checked for leaks? and certainly all white houses try to keep a lid on information, but this is definitely unusual and i think that's true whether you're talking to bush aides, obama aides, anybody in or out of government, there's always attempts to stop leaks, but to have all these staff members called together to have their phones checked by white house staff members. it shows the measures spicer and his staff are trying to take to get a control over some of the

information that's not only been leaking out of the white house, but gushing out of the white house. >> you spoke to obama staffers, was there answer that they had ever been checked? >> reporter: no, this is not normal. yes, there are requirements to comply with various laws, you've got to turn over your emails and text messages, but you don't get checked on week five of an administration. trump very concerned about white house leaks, about sensitive information and also embarrassing information coming out of the white house, the fact that this leaked so quickly, it must be another kind of version of embarrassment by this white house, that the attempt to stop the leaks, leaked out. >> or perhaps something they wanted out there so that people who were not in that meeting --

>> that's devious. >> people who weren't in that meeting, who may be in and afternoon the white house might get a message. an unprecedented move for the "new york times," they're going debut its first ever ad to run during the oscars. it's actually the first tv ad in seven years at all. let's take a look. >> the truth is our nation is more divided than ever. >> the truth is alternative facts are just plain delusional. >> locker room talk is harmless. >> we need to put the safety of the american people at the top. >> the truth is -- >> the truth is -- >> so, brian, as you discuss and

analyze this, i want you to wear two hats, first as our media guru, but also as an alum of the "new york times." >> when i was working there, we were not running commercials like that. this is definitely unusual and it comes at a moment when the "new york times" is trying to gain lots and lots of subscribers. i had my editor on the program this morning, he said that subscriptions grow every time trump complains about the paper. but this is an attempt to capitalize on all of the temples right now about the so-called alternative facts. ads on the oscars could cost upwards of the million a spot. so the times deciding this is worth the investment, trying to grow it's subscriber base even more, i think they know there's going to be some politically themed speeches during the oscars tonight, so they're trying to place their ad right in between. >> after the break, hollywood's

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ask your doctor about eliquis. we're just a few moments away from hollywood's biggest nights. if toochbt's oscar's are anything like the past awards shows, there will be some politics in there as well. janice, i want to start with you, your publication, hollywood reporter has a story up right now, it's already political, the actors are going to be wearing aclu buttons? >> yes, so everyone's wearing this blue button for acla. you saw ruth nega, you see lyn manuel miranda and his mother

coming in the aclu ribbon. and that's just the warmup. this is going to be the biggest political spectacle since the conventions, star after star are going to get up there and have his or her own meryl streep moment tonight. >> you work in media now, and you used to work in politics. >> i used to be in therapy because of all of that. >> you know each world's fascination with the other firsthand. but with donald trump in the white house, it's really taking it to a level like we have never seen? >> well, i think that's right, i think everything is sort of bigger and just, huge, as donald trump might say when it comes to everything that he does and you take sort of a community here in los angeles, the creativity community that sort of celebrates maybe a lot of things

that are seemingly antithetical than what the white house is talking about and putting out. and if you look at a lot of what the movies are about this year. the stories are sort of uplifting, "david and goliath" and we're seeing a different feel from washington on that right now. >> but this is a perfect tinderbox of hollywood and donald trump. and donald trump has been to the oscars or oscar parties for seven years and he loves the red carpet. and if you go back and look at his tweets, he's been probably the biggest critic of the oscars through the years. >> hold that thought because i do have his tweets and i want to show our viewer what is you're talking about. look at 2014, i should host the oscars just to shake things up, this is not good. then let's fast forward to 2015. put the dplam more and beauty and mystery back in the oscarings and the ratings will

zoom. and the oscars need credibility. the white house says the president will not be watching this tonight. he does have a big black tie event of his own going on as well. but this is really interesting that he is somebody who not only atpded, as you said, but was kind of a men tate for like you guys are. >> he is really a showman at heart. he's produced beauty pageants, "the apprentice", he actually knows a thing or two about branding. and the oscars are a slow show. it has categories that the bulk of americans, and people around the world don't necessarily care about. so for donald trump, who probably has a shorter attention span than some people in hollywood for this show and maybe people in general, his criticisms might actually have some credence. >> on that note, mark, you -- i

should say, your father is an awards show producer, you've sort of been around it for probably your whole life, so why do you think that this is the second biggest most watched event, second only to the super bowl? why does this still have an audience in the age of dvr and netflix and with sort of bite sized viewing? >> look, i think everybody wants to feel part of a moment and i think the oscars are still very much a moment that we kind of all share. we, you know, all sort of, i think, have grown up watching these events, watching the academy awards. i think we need a fairy tale right now, and i think these types of shows especially are very good at connecting with that, with art, with humanity, i think we get good ideas from each other. listen to the speeches tonight. they're mirrors of what we're all going through in our lives

every day, and it's a moment we can all share together. you want to experience it with people. you want to experience it as it happens, just like the super bowl. and i think that's a big thing. >> janice, i have to ask you i cannot let you go. because i talk politics all the time and i get to talk to the woman who created it best, i can't let you go without talking about the red carpet right now. what's going on right now, who who looks good? who's missing the mark? >> everyone was expecting sort of a sober red carpet because as someone wrote for the hollywood reporter, how do you let everyone in i stand against him while you are dressed like a parrot in kbliter. so we were thinking, maybe it was the time for more sober dressing. there are some standouts so far,

ruth nega looks beautiful, her valentino, let's see, who else? >> lyn manuel. >> i think this is a mwoman whos 63. gorgeous on the red carpet. there's going to be two outfits that people will debate. one of them is pharrell, he's entering into the gender debate, wearing a head to toe chanel. and a chanel tuxedo. >> i want to give my mark eddleman sound bite, this is our time to shine.

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motivated. it's obviously up to a jury to decide. but this individual made reference to get out of my country. he allegedly inquired about the visa status of these individuals that were shot. and before he was and prehelped, he allegationedly went to a bartender and said i just killed two muslim men. the election of donald trump really has kind of released the hate in america. we have seen hate crimes targeting other people, because we have seen this often before, where someone is per received to be middle eastern or muslim.

we have had sikh temples attacked because they thought it was a mosque. we had a mosque arson attack just within the last day. it really is unprecedented and truly troubling in just these last weeks since the election of donald trump and donald trump has not spoken out against it. even when six people were gunned down in a mosque in canada, he didn't speak out. >> you just sort of led me to my next question, which is what do you expect and hope to hear from the president about the kinds of attacks that you're discussing? >> i hope to hear our president denounce growing anti-muslim bigotry, the growing attacks on hispanics, african-americans, women, others. i expect nothing, because donald trump has surrounded himself with a group of anti muslim

bigots in the white house, stephen bannon, steven miller, and others. they have pushed the conspiracy theories of muslims trying to take over america and the world. and they have pushed to target the american muslim community and we see the result. >> well, just because they're not here to defend themselves, i should say that they would say that that's not true, that they're not builted, they just have a different set of political beliefs. i just want to sigh for the record that they're not here to defend themselves on that. just one more question about the concept of a hate crime, people might not realize this out there. to be classified as a hate crime is a big deal, because the suspect if convicted would face a different punishment, correct? >> generally a hate crime will

draw, depending on state law, will draw enhanced sentencing, norz if you were on the crime of whatever it was, you were to be sentenced to five years, you might be sentenced to seven years, when you have aemged murder for even first-degree murder, it's hard to get a higher personality than that. so sometimes in these cases it doesn't apply as much. but it's just a symbolic message that's sent when state and federal officials designate it as a hate crime. we would like to see that because it pushes back against the rising bigotry in our nation. >> ibrahim hooper, thank you so much for your time, appreciate it. and we are waiting on comments from president trump, we're going to bring those to you after a quick break.

we are waiting for president donald trump to speak at the governor's dinner. i want to talk to david gergen, who's been to his share of events, black tie and otherwise at the white house. how important is this that he's not only having his first gala, but that he is gathering the governors from all around the country, chief executives of the states? before you answer, let's take a

listen. we just got the tape, let's listen. >> has never looked better, but who knows? i'm sure it's looked better many times. melania, congratulations. i also want to congratulate and thank a truly great vice president of the united states and his wonderful wife karen and whenever you are, mike, stand up just for a second. mike pence. [ applause ] so i can say that after four weeks, it's been a lot of fun. but we have accomplished almost everything we have started out to accomplish. the borders are stricter, tighter. general kelly has done a fantastic job militarily. as you know, we have a fantastic team, we have an a-team. i'm getting some good reports. there's some problems in the world, you know that very well. but we're very happy with the

way things are working and we have made a lot of promises over the last two years and many of those promises already are kept. so we're very honored by that. [ applause ] thank you. thank you. i just want to salute and toast the governors, the great governors of the united states. they have done an amazing job. such an easy job you have. so easy. but you have done a fantastic job, and your families and wives and everybody's here. i mean i have seen daughters come tonight. i have seen wives, all i know is everybody ee's lovely, and tomow we're going to meet and discuss, and perhaps health care will come up, perhaps. we have made a lot of progression son that. and wednesday night, we're going to be speaking about a very complicated subject, every state

is different, and every state needs different environments. but as most of you know, obamacare has had tremendous problems. i won't say it to the democrats, but i will say it to the republicans, we're going to repeal and replace. and all of you, even tonight, because we have tom price with us, if you see something or want to discuss it, we don't have to discuss all friendly stuff, we can discuss a little bit of the health care, we might as well start. but tomorrow morning we're going to meet and discuss health care and whatever else is on your mind. i hear this is a record number of governors, 46, and that's the highest number that's ever showed up to this event. [ applause ] so with that, i would like to toast the great, great governors of the united states. thank you. >> here, here.

>> now i know it's inappropriate, but i would like to ask a friend of mine, i just destroyed his political career, from the other side. a man from virginia, i have known him a long time. and he's a very good guy. governor terry mcauliffe to come up and also, perhaps, make a toast. terry, where are you? >> i think that's fair that he just called up terry mccauliffe, but some very interesting remarks about what the president is going to talk about on tuesday night. he said he's going to talk specifics when it comes to, he didn't say the word health care, but that seemed to be what he was talking about, about obama care and what he's going to do with that. let's bring back david gergen,

our senior political analyst. i interrupted you so we could go to the tape before hand, but i think this is interesting that this is the first time we have seen donald trump as president, giving a toast as president in the white house to his guests of honor. >> i think that's right, dana, and it's very interesting. of course he has a room that is enthusiastically for him. about 2/3 of the governors these days are republicans. about 60% or so of members of state legislatures are republicans. and state chambers, 2/3 of them are controlled by republicans at the state level. so he's in warm company here, and i think he reached out appropriately. but the hard part really begins tomorrow, because there are deep divisions among the republicans as we well know. look at the john kasich tape that you played earlier today.

he's been a fan of expanding medicaid, there's been so republicans who want to block grant medicaid and reduce the spending. there's been a report out from the times for the last short while, that they're going to unveil the structure of a budget. and reportedly, the times is saying, there's going to be a surge in defense spending and cuts, pretty much across the board and other programs. so that will be very controversial. donald trump is now moving into this phase, a new phase of his presidency of having to work with congress, work with the governors, work with other elected officials, especially in congress who feel they are a co-equal branch, to work through these difficult, difficult issues and see if they can reach agreement. the agreement seems farther away today than it did four or five weeks ago, but donald trump still has strong leadership potential there in the congress with both chambers in republican

hands. >> i want to bring in athena jones our white house correspondent who's also listening and doing reporting on the budget that david gergen was just talking about and of course what's happening inside the white house there, athena? >> reporter: i thought what was really interesting there, dana, is to hear the president say, again, promise once again, something he's been promising for the last year and a half, which is to repeal and replace obamacare. we heard him make a joke saying that obamacare has had tremendous problems, i won't say it in front of democrats, just republicans, and there was some laughter in the room. he went on to say we're going to have it fixed, we're going to repeal and replace it, and we're going to have something special. that's not details, the real question is what is a repeal and replace plan going to look like. it's proven to be a much bigger

challenge coming up with something that even people just within the republican party can all agree on. he talked about how he's going to be talking about that tomorrow when he meets with governors and other colleagues. but i thought that was interesting from those brief remarks. >> and you were just talking about the budget outline that the president will unveil will call for a substantial increase in military spending as well as several cuts in federal agencies. since he's a republican who's doing his first budget, is that's probably not a surprise. >> it's not a surprise, but it's interesting they did it the day before this speech to the congress. that means the president will have to cover it. it's going to be controversial and we're going to start learning how the tradeoffs are very, very difficult in this year and the tradeoffs on the health care side. where the deputy press secretary

for the white house was on some of the shows today, and basically when she was asked, pressed whether donald trump had said he was going to take care of everybody, she was asked if anybody would lose their health care, she danced and dodged as much as she could to leave that wide open. there's some tough, toufz issues coming up. and it's going to move beyond the kind of tone m issues we have been dealing with, and the yuan lat 2r5 local -- unilateral steps the president has been making. >> athena, what david was talking about, the sort of dancing and dodging, to your point just a minute ago, there doesn't seem to be, still at this point, a month in and three months after they were erected, a real, clear understanding of how the republicans are going to move forward on health care. >> no, and there isn't, and it's not something the president is acknowledging, he sounded just like he sounded for months when

he promised a terrific plan that would cover everybody. he has had repeatedly that his terrific plan would cover everybody at a lower cost. what's not at all clear is how they're going to do that. we know that former house speaker john boehner has said, look, he shouldn't have sold this as repeal and replace because is that's not what's going to hatch. they're going to end up fixing obamacare, put a skeftz box around it. the reason they're not going to be able to do a repeal and replace because republicans in his 25 years could never, never, ever, agree on a health care proposal. >> thank you very much for joining me. and up next on cnn, a marathon finding jesus, and don't miss a new season of finding jesus debuting next sunday only at 9:30 a.m. thanks for spending your time with me, have a great week.

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