[ laughter ] cartoons. wait for it. [ cat screech ] [ laughter ] ♪ [ screaming ] [ laughter ] make everyday awesome with the power of xfinity x1... hi grandma! and the fastest internet. [ girl screaming ] [ laughter ] good evening from washington, d.c. we have former presidential conditioned dat bernie sanderss on the program tonight. there are late details on trump's plans on the eve, for a double digit boost in defense spending and we begin withç continuing question of contact during the campaign and later between the trump campaign and

russia. friday a powerful republican said a special prosecutor isp needed and he appeared to backtrack on that today. also today the white house said there's no need for one. the gop chairman of the house÷ú essentially threw cold water on the story while denying the story he was enlisted by the white house to "pour coldzv wat on the story." however, own reporting on some of it is solid, clear, tonight and here is more. >> reporter: on capitolym hill today, a tale of two realities, the chairman of the house intelligence committee, a republican denying evidence of÷ communications between trump advisers and russians during the campaign. >> as of right now, i don't have any evidence that would -- of any phone calls. thatym doesn't mean they don't exist, but i don't have that. >> just hours later, the ranking member of the same committee, a democrat who has seen much of the samezv intelligence

contradicting that assessment. >> we have, i think, reached no conclusion, nor could we in terms of issues of collusion because we haven't called inç single witness or reviewed a single document on that issue as of yet. >> reporter: at issue recent reporting from cnn and "new york times" the investigators areym examining communications between trump associates and russians known to u.s. intelligence. the administration pushing back hard on the "new york times" characterization of the÷ú russis as being part of russian intelligence. the bipartisan hill investigation is just beginning its work, gathering documents and çagreeing, just this afternoon, on the scope of the investigation. it is not yet called any witnesses. still, chairman devin÷ú nunez telling reporters he's been given indications from unidentified officials in the intelligence community, that there will be nothing there. ill be no evidence that nor there have been any evidence of trump advisers speaking to russian.

the initial inquiriesht i've ma, i don't have any evidence. >> are you saying the fbi has not supplied you with that evidence or the fbi has told you there is no evidenu% >> i'm not going to get into which agency. the intelligence agencies have not provided me or the committee any information about those three americans communicating÷ú with russia and -- >> are you saying that evidence does not exist, there's a difference there? >> the way it sound like to me there's no evidence of anything there. you know, obviously we would like to know if there is. >> reporter: the comments echoed byjwqbuáuáq spokesman sean spicer defending the administration aggressive effort to to refruit the story. >> i think chairman nunez over andp over and over again made i very clear that no evidence has been brought to his attention suggested that reporting was accurate. >> reporter: congressmanht told reporting said there's a lot of

spade work to be done not only on phone calls and russians tied to the kremlin, but also other potential linksy=r( communications during the campaign. >> how the russians operate, how they seek to exert their inference covertly, whether they do that throuwhç third parties, individuals, business people, directly, electronically, through encryption, there are a whole host of issues that need to be investigated. >> disagreement between the two leaders of the house, could that impact the integrity of the investigation. >> i thinkç it's pretty clear that it could. you know, when these bipartisan senate and house investigations were announced last month, there was a lot of hope from both parties that there÷ú would be cooperation here, but clearly, it could be bipartisan, but still partisan. i mean, you have the chairman of the house committee there basically eliminating one of the communications between trump team and russia during the campaign. and on the other side, you have

theç senate intel chairman, senator richard burr who was one of the people the white house called on to knock down stories about these communications. you know, inscahoots in effect with the white house, some democrats are calling for refused participation for somehow to be changed. it raised thep question as we g through this may take weeks and months, do you come to the conclusion that both sides accept? it's a real question of whether you do, it might stretchç out this conflict we have on so many questions right now, not just related to russia, but virtually every issue that comes up in washington today, two differentp realities. >> jim, just to be clear, in terms of investigation on capitol hill, the idea of investigating russia's involvement in the elections, the hacking, would thatym be unr the same investigation as, you know, investigating any -- if they do exist, connections between trump campaign andp conversations with russia? >> yes. yes. that's one of the threat, the intel committee has been

looking. just today they announced the scope of their investigations, certainly inw th but also includes these communication, that was the point that the congressman was making. he said we're just starting today, we haven't even interviewed anybody,b how could we reach a conclusion on this. that was his point. >> thanks very much. on friday, congressman called for a special prosecutor i.bhe case. he appeared to backtrack today telling cbs news and i quote "i could see if there's an allegation of a crime that called for a special]i prosecu makes since." he then added "currently we don't have that." they put out a statement focusing heavily on÷ú the obama white house, the quote, right now we have speculation and assumptions but not clarity and facts, including parts of russian'sym actions, but the oba administration didn't respond and potentially actions of former national security adviser michael flynn. president obama and attorney generylo1e991ñ she continued,

allowed obstruction and unanswered questions from the american people to linger clouding their work and calling into question the impartiality % of the fbi's finding. we could conclude by which, any review conducted must have the full confidence of the american people which is why iua$ @r(tf o recommended an independent review. i want the trump administration to be successful and that starts with embracing high standards for openness and transparency. nowhere in the statement hezv ud the two words on friday, mainly, special prosecutor. joining us paul, former obama white house communications director.zv ronald regular g ronald reagan's communications, jason miller, political analystú senior political reporter henderson, ryan joins us. he's washington correspondence, the senior columnist matt. let'sç start with you since you're new on the panel tonight. i mean, why not about open and

transparency, the white house has nothing toç hide and there nothing to it, why not come forward and say, there were these phone calls, this person may have been spoken to this person and investigas9 is find and dandy. >> this is completely cooked up. there's nothing to this. i was glad to see the chairman in the news clip, there's nothing there.p i think between attorney general sessions, believe they'll go through their process, that's every right, that's part of the oversight committee that ek see from congress. >> the white house, they're there, but they haven't said, well, manafort may have spoken to this person or someone may have spoken to this person. >> there has been÷ú no evidence that's been forward. there's been these nameless, faceless sources. still haven't come forwand and shown any evidence, the four0 names of victor out there, two of them gone so it's ridiculous. the third had no involvement at all in the campaign. and the fourth, we know from thp only thing that general suffered for, was a faulty memory and

could have done a better job of communicating with the ÷é@r(t&hc administration. this whole notion that there was conclusion with the government. >> you're assuming general flint has a faulty memory, forp somebody with a national security adviser would be quite a statement of fact. >> but the fact of the matter is, this is completely cooked ç up. the fact is, that this president is going to come in and turn this town on its head. i think there are a lot of folks both part of the democrats and÷ also a lot of folks that are career bureaucrats and inside intel community that are upset they can't control the president. any dealings with russia. all this is trying to relitigate the campaign and keep it going, completely made up. >> there's nothing there and there's nothingñú that trump nes more than independent investigation to clear his good name, right. >> this is what we know. july 27th, donald trump's last

russians to hack his opponent hillary clinton. the supporters were saying, if you're listening, i hope you're able to findym the 30,000 e-mai that are missing. we know that a few days after election, deputy foreign minister of russia said there russians and the trump campaign. he dragged about the contacts. this is a russian high-ranked government çofficial. we know first of all, cnn described it as constant campaign. i didn't have the pole.ç it's extraordinary, we hack the dnc. and we know -- i had forgotten this, but vague -- thatç acces hollywood page ran within one hours of that story building, wikiv: leaks began. >> is it true, paul is seaing does the white house turn investigation if they have

nothing to hide. >> is that really the way things work, doesn'tym an investigatio in and of itself raise questions about it the wines. >> i think there are questions that are raised and paul was touchiég on the fact that the context here makes it pretty fishy. the intelligence kmuchbty, all of the intelligence agencies concluded together that the president had directed the hack yg. there have been multiple reports of contacts from russian sources, from white house sources, all over the placeç between the -- the trump administration and russia. so if there's really nothing there, why not clear it up. i want to make one other note in the price conference that we saw today, i think we made them hurt different conclusions but not different updates on the status. f o materials yet. how can you conclude what's happened. >> i'm listening to congressman chair. i kept thinking, ÷úand, and,

there's no blue dress, there's noah lee north. there was none of it. it's just words out.s if you've got something for herch's sake put it out there so we can see it. we didn't have it. and they do investigations. >> i don't think we're even close to that. to me -- >> what does this happens. >> that's really good question to which i don't have an ane7k but i think part of the context here that jim is talking about is the credibility of the fbi and the cia, also. besa director who was brought in to call a reporter and say, this is over with, move on. there's nothingv: standing here. and you have the number two person at the fbi pulling us aside, right he had hit them at the white house,0 saying this all bs. the question i have is that should the fbi, number two guys,

have done that given the fact that this isu! an ongoing investigation. should the cia director put himself in a political position like that. i mean, i'm not a çpool, peopl talk so slow. >> i'm sorry. >> the cia agent director was doing the white house bidding on an zvinvestigation. that is not finished yet. >> even if donald trump and nobody in this campaign had any kaxs and there's nouts there.my there's still the aspect of russians involvement and investigation into that. >> investigation into that and hat, donald trump obviously hasn't wanted to deal with that. he said, it could have been a 400 pound guy sitting on a bench in new çjersey. he has shown no real relief. what americans at this point are making sure that this has the appearance of bipartisan shiwíñ when rubio came out a couple of

fridays ago when it was preached. he was like he feels confident that there could be a bipartisan this. now, you have senator kolly saying the same thing. i think that's going to be important for them. to make sure -- we'll÷ú vote fo this here, the public things. this is bipartisan investigation. >> the common theme is, nobody knows zvanything. >> shift and nunez said the something. >> we haven't started the investigation. we can't come to any conclusion. you know, this has been reported the reporters who were put on the phone with pom pay, they didn't ride off of those conversations they basically saidtk didn't tell me anything. they said the "new york times" article was in correct but wouldn't give them any information for them to go out and knock down of debt. we have an enormous amount of smoke and anonmollysym need.

>> the difference between "new york times" reporting and "new york times" said, you know, connections between the trump campaign and russian intelligence officials.ç cnn reported which jim has repeatedly pointed out is the discriminations from russia and known to the u.s.÷ú intelligenc community. they're different. >> i would say, you're right, we don't know anything and that's why you don't get a special prosecutor. because -- my understanding is÷ that number one, a special prosecutor would be at least an investigation of a crime being committed. so, look, i totally agree. we should be looking forç the congressional investigation for russia we need to get to the bottom of that. when it looks to looming into grab nation for çthat. not even an allegation of a criming. i mean. there's no statutory responsibility for the administration to comply. i think they would be insaneç to -- >> right now. >> the game is week. >> we know there's an nib

investigation. we probably don't have enough information to knowç if that triggers mess sap. >> let me ask jim, is that the case that's -- unless there'3ú crime and be connected. partly a political question, is it quick question the by partko son committee can't do the work right with what, you know, to a degree that inspires confidence of both parties. that seems to be a real question now, a mont& ago when these investigations were announced. that was cnn to sign it by both parties. you barely started the investigation and you and i are bothç parties accusing of the other being to the fact that they living in your lines. keep lines open. if he does,p it's a reasonable line line. the reason that's important, time said contactmy with russia

intelligents. our importance said others known as u.s. intelligence. as she made a difference today. russia uses÷ú network of people good to report back for the government. that includes business people and includes diplomatic et i was pressed. and i can say this on. democrats and republican sources on the end. are you saying to me you have eliminated that possibility of to -- or in that orbit of reporting back to the kremlin. i pressed him on that issue and pressed nunez today as well. they haveko not eliminated that because they haven't answered that question yet. that's one of the many lines that have been answered and that's the reason why that distinction is important. >> when going to ego and we hear from the white house pushing back. it's almost around the "new york times" story it's that very (5m correct. >> it is. it's also, as you said without a lot of -- i'm pressed as well,

explain to me whyç you've eliminated that possibility? again, let's remind our viewers, our reporting the source with multiple officials and intelligence, in manyç agencie in this city that told us the same thing about evidence to those communications. so that's the reason we have the confidence to go to the air with hasn't been answered yet. and that's why the fact is the fbi is still investigating the communications. we know that to be true. >> more on leaks and theht leak about the white house, more on leaks, how about that. >> later senator banner joins us. how about that. fees? what did you have in mind? i don't know. $6.95 per trade? uhhh- and i was wondering if your brokerage offers some sort of guarantee? guarantee? where we can get our fees and commissions back if we're not happy. so can you offer me what schwab is offering? what's with all the questions? ask your broker if they're offering $6.95 online equity trades and a satisfaction guarantee.

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exactly what is sean spicer doing to try to crack down on these &jleaks. >> first and foremost he's trying to get the word out to his staff and others throughout the whole government, throughout the administration that they're serious about this, they're serious about leaks and they want everyone to stay on it. he had a meeting, e urged, in fact told people not to use thep encrypted app that you can communicate with people privately in messages that disappear on your phones. he alsou! checked people's phon to see if they've been text messages and others to reporters. we were told that the miami signed off on this.ym he was so intense on finding a stop to this putting, putting a stop and he signed off on this plan. sean spicer told me he was acting alone here. the same, we stand by our reporting on that. they wanted to get the word out

they're trying to crack down on leaks. if you said, word of the meeting, late. >> there are some are sanctions and some are not, everyone is on sort of, you çknow, i notice he they're looking for them. >> i don't understand why it's demoralizing for people to have leaks coming out of the office where you'reç working in. if i was to crack down a leak itself is coming from a leak. do we know who told what would happenym if information continu to get out. >> sean spicer and others have sent a message that it is simply not acceptable and it's an offense andç if people are outside out to be leaking things. all white houses have leaks, some are sanctioned, some are not. things, that's i'm told to be an effect. >> thanks very much. paul, you useç to work in e white house, will this work?

>> no no it will drive you crazy. first week and months in the administration, it was really÷ú frustrating. it took a while and we got our act together. for their sake, this is not the way to get your act together. you treat peopleç like they're sp disloiled and they're going to be çdispoiled. >> we key leeks, the fbi director said, talking to the press blasting hillary clinton and leading the letterç attackg her. hillary is part famous because of the leak. he took it toko blame about his private vat too. >> they're getting their cues from the boss. they feel like leaky gut is okay. he'll be a good guy when this is open. the stuff that's happening right now is the boss that's taking him out of character.

% >> generally you're a guy. it did not appreciate tournly. >> there's leaks in everyç whi house, no doubt about it. what's going on here they're trying to push the leak story ko forward. donald trump asked them to leak the story. they want to keep the focus on leaks and their investigation. they don'tç want us to talk abt russian and the contacts with the russians, their involvement in the campaign. so this is an effective effort know, i think -- >> you're -- >> why not. >> i think we've watched enough of thisu! movie at the trump whe house. >> ya son looks to simplify. >> doesn't this under mine, two, of donald trump's pasts storyline. one storyline, fake news,

anonymous sources that aren't true. so this implies that the leaksv are real and the other storyline was, well, there are leaks, but these are coming from obama, you know, hold over brur cat andym w you have sean spicer going to his 17th. which one is it. >> why do people leak. i mean, for the promotion you're watching at ymhome, they can ma themselves look better. there are people who are leaking on behalf of the faction that they are associated with and do this,ç or they leak in more of the way that general was talking and apparently it's not common that more. we're trying to change the they have some strategy. occasionally, it's because you have a relationship with the source and for whatever personal reasons, they want to give you information. >> i think itv: may be differen maybe you can tell me. i think sometimes people in trump world leak to get the president's attention on certaiç

things. i know that that occurred during the campaign when there were issues in the campaign, the people would tell you things so donald trump might read it and then mightzv take some action o it. so it's kind of -- >> it didn't work that way. >> i've got to say something. i've goáhto deaf fend sean a little bit here. some of the folks here, i think you're doing a great majority. but i think one of theç things is, look, i think it's good. the white house is cracking down on laeaks. if you were workingzv in the private sector and working on leash. how does the cnn news roochl or "new york times" newsroom. they would bezv calling in to dl you off of the building to farewell, what's going on here. >> you guys will find a way to get it.zv it's just this entry, they'll talk that's going back to, you know, who said what and all of

this. one thing i point out from yesterday, there were noç sours coming from people who identified as being in the room. i think a lot of this is kicked upcoming from outside, maybe people hear part of çsomething but, again, i think it's personally in the white house for leaks. >> i think a lot of this was outside, maybe they're part of the establishment. it's getting÷ú ruffled up. all of this talk about leaking. this is not connected that it's think about. let's go back to the job numbers. >> iht mean, the white house is thinking about and worried enough and saying they're checking people's phones, i have never worked in a company. >> again,sif you did this in the private sector, you'll fire so quick. i think they're going to crack another and this culture that's something cool to doç or -- it something that's accepted here in town. no, it's different. four points. >> from thezv reagan.

>> donald trump had a history. >> here is the thing that they i mean, we all live in a high-tech world where there are multiple kind of advices you can laek from a÷ú land line at home. they've got to be careful. i mean, this is different than saying i want to see who you've exting. this is about so many records from a phone company to see if jason over here had been leaking. you want to be careful that you don't go down that road. >> can you imagine how demoralizing for them to have, to be marched into a meeting. >>ç if i worked at a job and ty said we want to see your cell phone, i will be like see you s later. >> what i found a little

unusual, they were÷ú looking for -- >> jobs. >> we went through a very tough time. ould agree with that. i mean, i've been involved with house and senate races that leaked more than our presidential campaign. we're a tight knit ÷úgroup. i think there's a lot of this talk coming from the outside and you know what, good for them. >> i mean, what did he -- henb wanted to see who was leaking, why do you say it's somebody from the outside. >> he said it was a tight knit group. he did lose a couple of people af long the zvway. again, manafort, i mean, through and through. >> everybody who has worked from the president want to see him do well and çsucceed. i think people that motivated agenda that likely are not in the white house. >> bernie sanders on the question of contact between the trump campaign and russian

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z. breaking news tonight just days after saying special prosecutor is needed to investigation a reported between the trump team during thex republican in congress gets vague on the whole issue. another key republican on capitol hill is weighing in as well. i talked about the russian andy much more with senator bernie sanders. i spoke with him earlier this evening. >> senator sanders, house chair committee nunez said he has seen no evidence of contact between the trump campaign and russian officials and that there should not be a special prosecutor do you agree with him? >> no, of course i don't agree with him. look, what we have happened is unprecedented in the history of our country. we have÷ú a major government, russian government led by mr. putin, actively interfering in our elections, determining trying to do everything they could to make sure that mr. trump won the election.

now there may not yet be evidence of any evidence between the conclusio@ú of russian government and the trump campaign. we, perhaps, today we do not know. but clearly this is an issue of enormous consequence. th with the washington, in order for trump to be the next president of the united states? that is an issue that has to be investigated. what mr. nunez knows today or doesn't know is not important. what we need to do is investigation whether or not that is true. >> and how do youç want to see that investigation proceed? i mean, white house press secretary sean spicer said there's nothing there when it comes to collusionsmy with the russians. >> anderson, these are the guys who obviously do not want to pursue this issue. they wish that it would go away. the only problem is the÷ú amerin people won't. the russian government actively participated in an unprecedented way. there's a lot of evidencext'

suggest that trump's financial dealings have been depend dent on russian money, what does that mean? and with the question ofym collusion is maybe the most important issue of all. it doesn't matter to me what the administration says, doesn't matter to me whatç congressman nunez said. what matters to me the american people have got to learn the truth. it means in independent investigation. it meansç the intelligence committee here in the senate and house do everything they can to get to the truth. >> president comes together his decision to repeal andym replac. certainly does not seem to be agreed upon plan. we haven't heard any real details. do demo÷ú cats have an obligati to more than just not help the consequence in your era. >> you say democrats should work with republicans toç repeal th legislation. i don't think it's our job to repeal the legislation. what our job is to work with

them to improve the legislation. is the÷ú affordable act per fok or fall from it. it needs to be in proof. we wait eagerly was it a possible that will improve the affordable care act less work together. >> i was wondering know that health care could be so complicated. i÷ú felt like nobody knew hilla clinton -- health care would be complicated. >> some of usç were sitting on the health education meeting who went to meetings after meetings after meeting, we heard from dozens of people who stayed upb night after night trying to figure up this thing. when you provide hillary clinton in the nation, it is very complicated. >> and maybe ÷únow, maybe the president from the republicans will understand, you can't go beyond the retd richetoric.

and everything will be wonderful, a little bit more complicated than that. that doesn't have kids. one people, we tell you the higher prices. let's address those issues. let's get beyond rebel. >> the president has been in the offi#q] for a little over a month. are you more or less optimistic about his presidency now? >> i wouldn't say÷ú i'm more optimistic or less. i'm stunned every day. >> stunned? >> yeah. you just mentioned to me. he said this is the president of the united states, we're debating health care in this country for 30 years. he said, gee, who knew howç complicated it was. he's maybe the only person in the country who doesn't know other than navy base.ç >> we're going to make apparently massive cuts that impact our children and impact the elderly and impact the sick,

impact the po© we're going to significantly increasing the military budget at a time that we're spending more combined, yeah, i think thoseç priorities are not in there. they'll come forward with billionaires like mr. trump. fighting the priorities they're pushing out where the middle part from this country is. >> senator sanders, i appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you. pentagon bulktç boost, the trump, servicemen and women, military routes take a win. talk to some of the head, plus mother of all÷ú mix up the osca take a bow on the event. a talented workforce, and world-class innovations. like in plattsburgh, where the most advanced transportation is already en route. and in corning, where the future is materializing.

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. when president trump addresses joint session congress tomorrow night, he's proposing a boost defenseç spending by $54 billion which is a 10% hike which is covering other spending by the same amount. this is what he told dozens of governorsziq=e at a white house meeting. >> we must be sure that our courageous servicemen and women,

if tour they needç to deter wa. and when called upon to fight in our name, only do one thing, whitney. we have to win. we have to start winning wars÷ú again. when i was young in high school, in college, everybody use to say, we never lost a war. now, we never win a war. we neverç win. and we don't fight to win. don't fight anyone as all. but president trump is calling his blueprint aç public safety and national security budget. congress, of course, will have the final say. l1ñ foreign and domestic, so appreciate both of you being with us. jennifer, the story what's your career reaction from what's the cabinet. >> i put them there to make sure i understand what he was going to say about the budget. i'm not sure of the details of thisu! 10% increase, it was interesting to say that because i think the military certainly

needs some additional funding. but, i was ready ÷úinsulted. i heard him say untrue statements and he found him once again, doing things uglyht leads don't work. >> i'm just going through revision in history here and today happened to be the anniversary of the day before the end of thesgulf war so let's look at our wins over the last 24 wins. grade "a," any cold zvwar, the bull kins, contribute protection against north korea. i don't know what the president talks about when he's saying those kinú of things it doesn' seem necessarily when he's rolling out of a budget the men and women who are the crop of the children. you're president trump's ym supporter, do you find what he said insulting, what's your take? >> no, i don't. to the general's point -- >> well, call -- if you don't

findzv it -- >> hold on. i sat here and listened to you talk. why don't you give me a shot here. >> the issue here is, we have all of these peopleç in place that we went into iraq and afghanistan, i expected donald trump was, you know, talking about. you didn't have a goal. you didn't define a goalu! and would like you to see what the desired out come was. >> and many of÷ú us military trd the fight again. it was regime change. that was the desired out come. that was the strategic effective which i don'tç think you to kn because you weren't there at the time. i listened in on the meeting between the military and political sources. this is one of the other president theç thing has to understand. they're sent as an expansion of political war. if you go to war, that's what the politicians want you to do. if not theg# military, to defin the young feet. it -- it failed to do that

correctly in a wrap.÷ú it seems like you're saying it's the generals who are setting the agenda, not setting what it means. isn't it a political leader ands they're the ones trying to pull it. >> i believe it's both. this is what he did very well. you'll have 30 days to get me a plan on ymisis. we should have had a plan long ago on this. the fact is now we have to get that done. >> when you say --ym >> we actually don't have a plan against isis. i have said this on this program. we had a 7'7" plan against general and actually,u! it was working quite well in iraq and it's more complex in syria and i think what you're going to -- low fall plan. >>ç letting them get it. >> oh, sorry, go ahead. >> it is working quite well in iraq, we finally had the iraqi'ç

government that he persuaded to take this position. i spent a good portion of my life in iraq. i kind of know what happened when it wentç south, it was because of the government influence both u.s. and iraqi government. >> and i think that's what mr. trump has to realize, that when united states, you are the commander in chief. you're the one that actually accept the orders. don't say, hey,ç give me a pla and you figure it out. he had set this up, i am not sure he has done that other than ker and better. >> carl, you said we need to regulate. and we'll -- in practical terms, what does that mean. or i think the issue is. we naught this,my you know, in large part during the obama administration. i was there on the glound. i had another friend of my killed by rules of÷ú engagement >> we all have to be engaged before we can engage back. if we're doing to win the war, we need to take the handcuffs

off of our troops so theyzv can kill hand gurs and kill beyond leak. >> i'll be interested to know of the details because ofym your re of >> would you like me to explain it to you? >> multiple years, there was never a complaint of problems with rules of engagement. there was some issues in afghanistan concerning the desire by some to go harder against the enemy. and during a time the key commanders and the president said, when you're talking about a counter insurgency operation, you have to win the trust and confidence of the people, and not just go in and kill your way out of things. >> i think that solves the problem. because i think that when we talk about these rules of engagement, we passed up rules of rights all the time, and there's the problem. it's within the military command structure. so somewhere between you and me on the battlefield, the communication lines were lost. let's get that fixed. that doesn't have anything to do with the president. >> i don't think i was in an

ivory fortress the team i was in iraq. i was out doing, i didn't see anything that prevented them from getting the job done and doing the right things on the battlefield. i can't say that for all places on every battlefield, but i know from the fact, working with both general mcchrystal and mcraven that they were very good. in terms of explaining the rules. >> we got to leave the conversation there, general hurtling. thank you. remember when we thought the whole adele thing was the craziest thing to happen at the oscars? it's no longer. the "ridicu-list" is next.

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