Skip to main content

tv   New Day  CNN  February 28, 2017 5:00am-6:01am PST

5:00 am
the americans and let them know help is finally on the way. >> nobody knew that health care could be so complicated. >> yeah, we got a clue. it's very, very complicated. >> i think president obama is behind it. >> checking staffers' phones. >> i would have handled it differently, but sean handles it his own way. >> what are the republicans in congress afraid of? >> announcer: this is "new day," with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. a picture of the statue of liberty there, and welcome to "new day." president trump hours away from laying out his vision for the american people, and the white house says he will offer real solutions and specifics. can the president sell congress on his budget and health care plans. >> this is a big night for the
5:01 am
president. it's a chance for a re-start, and he has to make the sell of his presidency thus far. but he also seems to be getting in his own way, blaming barack obama for the damaging leaks plaguing his white house and for being behind what we are seeing at the town halls. all this as lawmakers spar over the trump campaigns alleged ties to russia, and to think we are just 40 days in to the trump presidency. let's begin our coverage with senior washington correspondent, joe johns, at the white house. i don't think it's hype, and it's a real deal tonight and it's a re-set, and both sides of congress there and he has to make the pitch to the people. >> reporter: it's definitely an opportunity for this president to, among other things, make an unfiltered message to the american public, and his most important audience will certainly be in the room with him, and republican congressional leaders have been urging the president to put some
5:02 am
meat on the bones, essentially to give some specifics about what he wants to do this year and the question is, the extent to which the president will be able to do that. the white house says president trump's speech will layout an optimistic vision and bold agenda. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle looking for the president to outline specifics on many of the campaign promises that got him elected. >> this will be a national safety and security budget. >> reporter: unveiling his budget on monday. >> we are going to spend a lot more money on military. we have to. we have no choice. a lot of people think it's a tremendous amount of money, and it could be actually $30 million, $30 billion more than that. >> while slashing other government departments, like the epa and state department with a big focus on cutting foreign
5:03 am
aid. >> we are going to do more with less and make the government lean. >> reporter: he says the government faces an uphill and impossible battle. trump's budget outline doesn't touch social security, medicare and medicaid, which puts him on the odds with ryan. and the president facing mounting pressure to deliver specifics on how he will repeal and replace obamacare, but mr. trump now admits it's unbelievably complex. >> nobody knew that health care could be so complicated. >> reporter: meanwhile president trump is pointing his finger at his predecessor without evidence about the leaks. >> i think he's behind it. >> and for scenes like this, at town halls for republican lawmakers across the country. >> i think it's politics and in terms of him being behind things, that's politics and it will probably continue.
5:04 am
>> reporter: there is going to be a warmup event for tonight, a very interesting moment given the back and forth between the president and news media, and they will have lunch with the anchors of the major television anchors and the representatives of the smaller networks as well. >> appreciate it. meantime lawmakers trying to put some bridge over the political divide when it comes to congressional investigations of the trump campaign's alleged ties to russia. the house intelligence committee agreeing on the scope of what they will investigate. you have cnn sunlen. they have signed off on a plan to look at any contacts between the trump campaign and russia, and going into this this is a fundamental divide. you have the top republican on the committee and the top
5:05 am
democrat on the committee, both look into the probe and leading the probe, will they go into it with contradictory views with what they found so far. the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee says there's no evidence that contacts between trump's campaign and russia during the 2016 race. >> right now i don't have any evidence that would -- of any phone calls. >> but the top democrat on that committee calls that premature. >> we have reached no conclusion, and we have not called in a single witness or reviewed a single document on that issue as of yet. >> one thing the committee agrees upon, investigating any connection between trump's campaign and russian officials and leaks coming from government and intelligence officials. >> nobody is focusing on major leaks that have occurred here. we can't run a government like this. >> reporter: as calls grow for an independent prosecutor to
5:06 am
investigate any potential ties to russia. >> if we get to a point where there is a criminal referral, yes, i think the attorney general has to recuse himself. >> republican congressman and trump supporter, darrell issa, says both sessions can't lead the probe. >> you will need to use the special prosecutors statute, saying, quote, we have speculation and assumptions, but not clarity and fact and the president dismissing questions about a special prosecutor. a bizarre response considering mr. trump spoke to russian president, vladimir putin, just a few weeks ago. >> how many people have to say that there is nothing there before you realize there's nothing there? >> sean spicer zealously defending the president, and spicer leading the white house crackdown on internal leaks. sources telling cnn that the president signed off on checking
5:07 am
aides' cell phones to make sure they were not texting reporters, or using encrypted apps. an attorney general, jeff sessions, speaking out for the first time about those calls for him to recuse himself in the russian probe, and he said i will recuse myself from anything i should recuse myself from, and offering no more specifics or definite beyond that. >> joining us now is independent senator, king of maine, and he serves on the intelligence committee and armed services committee. good morning. >> good morning, alisyn. >> what are you listening for tonight in president trump's address before congress? >> what i would like to see, and obviously you are talking about specifics and optimism, i would like to see the president
5:08 am
acknowledge there's a whole half of the country that didn't vote for him, and it's time to start bringing people together, and it's time to start annunciating a positive vision, because there's a lot of anxiety, and a lot of anger, and there's a lot of people really concerned about the direction of the administration, and i would like to see a little bridge building tonight. i think it's a great opportunity for him to do that, and then, of course, all the other things your commentators have been talking about, optimism and specifics about programs, and to me the big opportunity, and you guys have been using the word "reset," and this is an opportunity to reset in a positive and more inclusive way. >> this is a big moment, and it's certainly a chance for president trump to layout a different vision than what we have seen so far and he will give specifics, as we understand it, certainly about his budget. let me put some of those up for
5:09 am
our viewers. this is the places he plans to increase in the budget. defense spending. a boost of $54 billion. he would like to spend more money on law enforcement, and he said he would like to spend more money on infrastructure. here's some of the things he plans to cut. foreign aid to other countries, in other words, the state department budget. we know that he is not a huge fan of the environmental protection agency and plans to cut some of their budget and other nondefense federal agencies. will congress go along with a budget like that, senator? >> i think you have to put it in context. the president proposes the congress disposes, and there's always a negotiation, and this should be viewed as an opening bid. the $54 million, it's really an $18 billion increase over the last budget that barack obama submitted, so as john mccain pointed out, it's not a gigantic increase in defense, and the thing that bothers me a little,
5:10 am
and you are talking about $54 billion in cuts in other places, and very unspecified. i can tell you from dealing with budgets it's easy to talk about generalli generalli generali general al tease. when you say cut foreign aid, it's a relatively small number, and as james mattis once said, if you don't do foreign aid you have to buy me more ammunition, and it's a lot cheaper to prevent a war than to fight a war, and we will have to see how that goes. you will have lindsay graham on cnn tomorrow night. he's a big advocate of the military and state department of what is called soft power, and a lot can be done to prevent confrontations through diplomatic means. we will see what the actual numbers are, and the epa, and you talk about cutting the epa, a lot of epa numbers goes to the
5:11 am
states, and can you talk about shifting expenses going to the states when you talk about cutting the epa. >> president trump just sat down with our friends over at fox and he spelled out how the math is going to work in his mind. let me play this for you, senator. >> sure. >> if you cut all the money from epa and the state, that's about $50 billion? >> i think the money will come from a revved up economy, and you look at the numbers we were doing, we were probably a gdp of a little more than 1%, and if i can get that up to three or maybe more, we have a whole different ball game. it's a whole different ball game. and that's what we are looking to do. >> senator, what do you think of that explanation, if he can get the gdp up to three 3%, and the money flows in? >> that's true. but there's no causal position between what he is proposing to do and increasing the gdp.
5:12 am
there's -- growth is one of the important ways to get out of this, and the question is are the policies being atphaupnnunc going to go move growth, and moving the growth upward is harder than it sounds. what we have to be careful with is bush 30 years ago, and that was cut taxes and everything will be great and the economy will grow and it will pay for itself, and that has never proven to work. we need to be careful. i want to seat numbers work, not a promise of well, maybe growth is going to make it pay off a couple years from now, and so that's the way to analyze that particular way of approaching this. >> senator, i want to ask you about the investigations going on in congress into the alleged ties between team trump and russia. you are on the select committee on intelligence, and i want to
5:13 am
ask you about your chairman, richard burr, whether or not you believe what he said publicly whether or not he is capable of doing a fair and independent thorough investigation into whether or not these ties existed between the trump campaign and russia? >> well, as you know, he apparently took a call from the white house and interceded with some media people last week at the end of last week, and i really am disturbed by that. i have not had a chance to talk to him about it personally, so i don't know all the facts and circumstances so i will be reluctant to categorically judge, but it did concern me now. i have talked to several republican members of the committee, and several democratic members of the committee, and i believe that there is a bipartisan consensus that we have to do it straight up and fairly and effectively, and it's got to be thorough and it's got to be credible. i am concerned about what the
5:14 am
chairman did, and i don't think it was appropriate based on what i know now, but i believe the committee -- by the way, the committee is very carefully balanced. it's eight republicans and six democrats and me, so there's a one-vote swing. so the chairman can't really control it, and i know, as i say, i talked to two or three republicans yesterday and they are absolutely committed. i talked to marco rubio, and he said i will not be part of a whitewash or part of a witch hunt, and i thought that was a good way to put it. >> thank you for joining us on "new day." stay with cnn for president trump's first address to a joint session of congress tonight. we have live coverage beginning at 8:00 p.m. eastern. chris? >> so big night. can president trump sell congress on his budget plan? this is his vision for the country, and this is the moment where we see the talk become action, but there are challenges within his own party.
5:15 am
republican congressman, steve king, a deficit hawk, is going to talk about what conservatives need to go along with the president's plan. well, it was nice to see everyone. i just wish it had been for a better reason. me, too, but the eulogy that frank's daughter gave was beautiful. i just feel bad knowing they struggled to pay for the funeral, especially without life insurance. i wish they would've let us help. but, it did make me think, though. about what? well, that i could leave you in the same situation.
5:16 am
i don't have life insurance, either. if something were to happen to me tomorrow, how are you going to pay for my funeral? or my other bills? nothing's gonna happen to you tomorrow. you don't know that. i made a promise to always take care of you kids. without life insurance, i'm not keeping it. besides, i already looked into it and between my budget and health, well ... you should call massmutual. they have a new policy called guaranteed acceptance life insurance. i got covered with one call, and it was an affordable option for reliable coverage. what do you think, mom? i think it's time to make sure i keep that promise. if you're age 50-75, it's easier than ever to get reliable coverage at an affordable price. call massmutual today for guaranteed acceptance life insurance. with no medical questions or exams, you cannot be turned down. with one phone call, you can get coverage ranging from $2,000 - $25,000, and premiums can start at less than $10 per month. guaranteed acceptance life insurance can help your
5:17 am
loved ones cover expenses such as funeral costs, remaining medical expenses and credit card bills. we have several payment options, and benefits are paid quickly and directly to your beneficiaries. they can use it for any expense they choose. for more than 160 years, our policyowners have mattered most to us. massmutual's ratings are among the highest of any company in any industry. you can feel confident we can help you protect the people who matter most to you with guaranteed acceptance life insurance. call massmutual today at this number. call now.
5:18 am
5:19 am
big night, high stakes. the president finally going to sell his vision for the country as policy to a joint session of congress, and to you. this is a big speech for the president. he is seeking an increase in $54 billion in defense spending and he is going to make cuts to the epa and state department and foreign investment as well to pay for it. will that be enough? will it get past his own party let alone all of congress? and we have a deficit hawk for sure, and something like this you would normally meet with a grumpy face, and big tax cut and it does not add up to deficit savings. what do you say? >> the first thing is, the
5:20 am
military spending needs to happen. it has been the victim of sequestration for years, and the chinese pushed against us on one side and the russian pushes against us on the other side and they don't respect us and that needs to be rebuilt. the question comes in, how do we do that and fund it. the president stepped up and said he will put decent-sized cuts into a couple departments, state and epa, and epa in particular polices me, and we have aid and we need to restore some back into the american envelope. and then talking about how we get to balance, and i want to hear him say will you pass a balanced budget amendment, and i want to hear him say he would encourage that and support that and i would like to hear paul ryan in the aftermath say let's go with the balanced budget announcement. >> you have a smile on your face, and i am taking that as
5:21 am
optimism, and even though there's going to be a big tax cut which may make it hard to show how it will be paid for, and you are supporting it? >> yeah, they do stimulate growth. i look at the tax proposals coming out there and i am uneasy about that, and the border adjustment, that makes me uneasy. i would like to have seen this president do strong and bold and embrace the fair tax, and abolish the irs, and we have the most aggressive tax system with the payroll tax, and untax the poll and the people living at twice the poverty level will pay half the tax of the healthy people, and that border adjusts everything and gives us a 28% marketing advantage off of products made in the united states when they are competing
5:22 am
with products made overseas, and we don't have donald trump embracing the fair tax yet. >> once we get the specifics of it, we will talk about when tax cuts drive growth and when they do not. on the aca, you also have reservations. why? >> as i am watching what we have is a leaked document that has come out that we are talking about. >> right. >> a lot of that is not hard facts, i presume. i want a full, 100%, repeal of obamacare. i don't want any of it left behind. >> why not? >> because, first of all, i don't want to be four or five or ten years from now watching as a new democrat majority starts to reconstruct it all again. and i think if you have something built on a bad foundation -- >> why is it a bad foundation if you have 20 plus million people covered that you would not have had before, and you have rates going up, but not by any more
5:23 am
than was expected and by more than in the previous administration? why call it a disaster? isn't that hiyperbolehyperbole? >> it's a seven year grind to get there, and a lot of them are on medicaid, and how many would be insured today if they bought a catastrophic plan, which was outlawed by obamacare. our skin and everything inside of it, and the people that are the recipients of a god-given liberty, and they have had our health caken over taken over by government. i want people to have their own set of responsibilities, and choosing the health insurance policy they want. >> that sounds great, as long as you are young and healthy.
5:24 am
the problem is, how did we get to the point where you needed to have the government step in? pre-existing conditions. people who were not that healthy, and young people who could not be on the parents' care anymore, and the induh skwrepbt, and access to care is not coverage, and you heard the governors where they heard from policy experts and dr. price, and the republican proposals right now will leave people without coverage, and are you okay with that? >> coverage is not access to care. you can have coverage, and you can have a cadillac plan, but if they won't take your policy if you are on medicare that is not being honored or medicaid that is not being honored or if they won't accept your policy, they
5:25 am
won't have coverage. >> who is they? what do you mean if they don't accept the policy? how does that work? >> we know, today under the aca as you call it, and that one-third of the counties have one choice, and two-thirds of the counties have two choices, and the rest of them have more than two choices. so you are sitting there with one choice of a policy that is mandated by the federal government, and we're down to the place now where is that coverage, where you have to go to certain places where they will honor that policy? i want to see people make their own decisions, and my obamacare was cancelled on me, and it was canceled as of december 31st of last year, and i had 90 days to find a new policy, and the choice was one. it doesn't let us save for our own health care costs into the future which requires an
5:26 am
expansion of hsas, and that's the most important component of this. today we will markup the bill that allows for selling the insurance across state lines, and that will be a big step in the right direction. we have needed to do that for a long time. this congress has known that for 20 years and we are finally acting on it today. >> congressman, let's see what the details are. health care is complicated, but this fundamental question of will people be left behind or get care, and it's a fundamental one, and we'll take it on again, and always appreciate you making the case, especially before the president's speech tonight. >> thank you. quick programming note. cnn is going to host a town hall tomorrow with republican senators john mccain and lindsay graham, and dana bash will be moderating this. tomorrow night, 9:00 p.m. eastern. what does president trump need to say tonight when he
5:27 am
addresses congress? we will get the bottom line from david gregory next. ...at t. rowe price... ...we've helped our investors stay confident for over 75 years. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. in my johnsonville commercial we open up in the forest. hi. i'm jeff. i'm eating my breakfast and all of a sudden a raccoon come up and ask me, "what are you eating?" i told him "johnsonville breakfast sausage, fully cooked." porcupine comes in and he says, "does that come in patties?" i said "yup" wolf comes in and says, "how'd you learn to talk to animals?" and i said "books" and we had a good laugh about that. [laughter] that's a commercial made the johnsonville way. why pause a spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension,
5:28 am
as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have a sudden decrease or loss of hearing or vision, or an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis. say goodbye to extra taxes and fees on your wireless bill and hello to t-mobile one. right now, get 2 lines of unlimited data for $100 bucks taxes and fees included. 2 lines, $100 dollars. all in, all unlimited. switch today. just checking my free credit score at credit karma. what the? you're welcome. i just helped you dodge a bullet. but i was just checking my... shhhhh... don't you know that checking your credit score lowers it. just be cool. actually, checking your credit score with credit karma doesn't affect it at all. are you sure? positive. huh, so i guess i could just check my credit score then. oh! check out credit karma today. credit karma. give yourself some credit.
5:29 am
sorry about that. dale! oh, hey, rob. what's with the minivan? it's not mine. i don't -- dale, honey, is your tummy still hurting, or are you feeling better to ride in the front seat? oh! is this one of your motorcycling friends?
5:30 am
hey, chin up there, dale. lots of bikers also drive cars. in fact, you can save big if you bundle them both with progressive. i'd like that. great. whoo. you've got soft hands. he uses my moisturizer. see you, dale. bye, rob.
5:31 am
it's time for" cnn money now." christine romans joins us. >> president trump vows one of the biggest military buildups in american history, and to do that it will be cuts to other government agencies. the cut comes in may, and $54 billion more in defense spending and more money for law enforcement, and a big infrastructure build and expect the states to have a bigger role there. where to cut? foreign aid, the state department and other agencies, and sources at the epa says they are bracing for big cuts. how much money are we talk about here? the government is set to spend more than $3 trillion to run the country, and social and medicare today are the single biggest expense, and president trump
5:32 am
doesn't want to cut those, and he is working with discretionairy spending, and that means all half of all disskres nary spending will have to cut from here. we're talking about big priorities here, and they hope to have the final budget by may. it gives you an insight into how hard it will be to balance those numbers. and that's without looking entitlements. >> those pizza slices would not satisfy my hunger. >> you are a pizza talker. you don't eat a lot of pizza? >> i eat a lot of pizza. the proof is in the thinness, i obviously eat a lot of pizza. >> and pudding. >> yeah, chocolate. let's get to the bottom line
5:33 am
with cnn political analyst, david gregory. we just had steve king, tea party, deficit hawk, and he said i want to expand the military, too, and it has to be paid for, and i want to see how the tax cuts will be paid for. how big of a challenge? >> a big challenge. when it comes to spending and the deficit, this is where there's going to be a battle. paul ryan has always wanted to reform spwaoeulentitlements, an president says he doesn't want to do that, and are they going to stay onboard? this is a blueprint he will provide and there has to be details about where cuts are going to come and how they are going to be paid for. the president wants to create jobs and loosen regulation and wants to get a big tax reform bill through. to do all of that, which is the real precipe for success, he wil
5:34 am
have to bridge the divides over spending and how they are going to bus the budget, and i don't think the president has laid a foundation yet to get this conservative agenda reform passed, and tonight that's what we are going to see is the friction. >> this is a golden opportunity to layout his vision, his plan, and any specifics or not, to the american public, to the entire american public, not just the people that go to the rallies and not just his base. what are you listening for? >> i think he has been consistent about saying this is what i campaigned on and this is what i am going to do. he's not a typical politician, the president, but any politician will do that and he has been true to his word and the ral eality is some of the executions has been chaotic and divisi divisive, and i suspect he will try to clean some of that up. i wouldn't say bridges to those
5:35 am
that oppose him, and that's inconsistent with his style and tone so far. the president f. you look at the people, he will invite into the first lady's box, and he will double down on fighting illegal immigration and fighting the threat that he sees from terrorists around the globe, and by trying to grow the economy, but it's still going to come back to how he's going to do it. where does obamacare fit into all of this? he talks about how complicated it is, and it is complicated and it has always been. >> he opened himself up to criticism by saying who knew it was that complicated. so what is your guestment as to how broad he wants to be in terms of message?
5:36 am
>> he has a captive audience here, and i think the message will be broad. i think the ultimate recipient, the ultimate audience here -- i don't see evidence the president wants to bridge the divides he talks about, and he is at 44% in the approval rating, and he and his team is wasting time with the economic nationalism, and taking on the news media, and all of which is a lot of noise and seems to detract from some of his core goals on having america win economically again. the audience has to be conservatives. i think the key to his success politically is whether conservatives stay onboard, and the republicans in the key congressional districts he carried stay with him, and you have the suspects about russia and all the rest clouding what he can do. let's not forget, he is disorganized in the way he tweets and pays attention to
5:37 am
various things off message, and he will have to work to build a consensus off of some of the things he wants to do, regulation, taxes, immigration and the like. >> thank you for all the analysis and the bottom line. there's another wave of bomb threats to tell you about. these in jewish centers around the country. what is being done to stop these? we have a live report for you next. >> will we hear about these tonight? this bar is made with cranberries and almonds. so, guess what? we call it cranberry almond. give kind a try.
5:38 am
5:39 am
5:40 am
tomorrow's the day besides video games. every day is a gift. especially for people with heart failure. but today there's entresto... a breakthrough medicine that can help make more tomorrows possible. tomorrow, i want to see teddy bait his first hook. in the largest heart failure study ever, entresto was proven to help more people stay alive and out of the hospital than a leading heart failure medicine. women who are pregnant must not take entresto. it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren. if you've had angioedema while taking an ace or arb medicine, don't take entresto. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high potassium in your blood.
5:41 am
tomorrow, i'm gonna step out with my favorite girl. ask your doctor about entresto. and help make the gift of tomorrow possible. time for the five things to know for your "new day." number one, president trump addressing congress for the first time tonight. he's expected to focus on a new budget that hikes military spending and makes deep cuts at several other agencies. >> the house intelligence committee agreeing to the scope of the links between the trump campaign and russia. two women suspected of poisoning north korean leader kim jong-un's half brother will
5:42 am
face murder charge. and trying to determine what caused the small plane to crash into homes in a southern california neighborhood. three people onboard died and two others suffered injuries. and two paying tourists signed up for a mission around the moon. the unidentified duo expected to take flight next year. you can go to cnn.com for the latest. a disturbing rise in anti-semitic attacks that includes vandals desecrating jewish cemeteries. >> we are not talking about bomb threats, and that's what we are
5:43 am
reporting on now, but there have been incidents happening all across the country, schools, cemeteries, and right now these are all being targeted. not once but in some cases multiple times in the last two months. just yesterday 20 incidents reported in one day. the latest one we heard about was last night in san francisco. an office had to be evacuated after the threat was called in and that was after a day of threats phoned into jccs in 12 states. overall, take a look at what these groups are dealing with right now. since january there have been 90 incidents at 73 jewish-affiliated locations, and in 30 states, and all turned out to be false alarms, and the fbi is also now involved in the probe into what happened at the pennsylvania grave site this weekend.
5:44 am
>> the numbers are staggering. >> it really is. >> i wonder if the president will address it tonight? we will see. he put himself in harm's way to stop a gunman that killed an immigrant. he was seriously injured in the confrontation, and he will join us live next. many refugees from various countries settled in the u.s., of course, and one charity is helping mothers with young children adjust to life in america, in this impact your world. >> these women share a common experience of being displaced from their home countries with young children. refugee family literacy program is a program for mothers and their children. children come to our school and participate in a early-childhood
5:45 am
program, so when they start school they will hit the ground running. mothers are upstairs learning english. our students are from 20 different countries. >> i am from burma. burma is -- the government is not good. it's not safe. >> they didn't want to leave their home country. they left because they did not have any choice. that common experience transcends language. these women are able to support each other, and sometimes in ways that i can't. >> i think a misconception is that most refugees were uneducated and impoverished. many refugees have strong education and strong skill sets, and so much to offer us in the united states. if we think of them as uneducated because they don't know english, really, it's our loss. >> impact your world, brought to
5:46 am
you by belfor property restoration. restoring more than property.
5:47 am
5:48 am
5:49 am
it's the crime that is getting a lot of attention, but not yet from the white house. a wednesday a gunman opened fire in a bar in kansas killing an immigrant from india and injuring his friend, and another man was also shot trying to stop the shooter. the fbi is investigating this as a potential hate crime.
5:50 am
and we are joined now from the hospital along with his doctor, lee norman. thank you so much for taking time to be here. we know you are still recovering and we see you with your bandages and splint still on. can you take us back through those moments you were minding your own business at a bar and watching the kansas game on tv, and then what happened? >> well, we were sitting there, like you said, just watching the game and enjoying ourselves, and having a few cold beers and hanging out and catching up, and a gentleman came in and started acting out of line and he was escorted out of the bar, and he proceeded to come back about 20 or 30 minutes later, and that's when everything kind of changed. he opened fire, and definitely was a life-changing event.
5:51 am
>> yeah, obviously for everybody, you included. what was it about this gunman that got your attention and the attention of the bouncer that sent him away? what was he saying? >> honestly, i didn't hear too much of what he was saying. i just saw these gentlemen, and i had met a few times and every time i was up there and seen them, always tried to make them laugh and vice versa, and they tried to make me laugh, and they seemed a little distraught about the situation, so i went up and tried to help them out and get the gentleman out of there, and when he came back, it was all a little different. still a little hard to talk about sometimes about it all, but -- yeah. >> i understand. i appreciate you trying to make it through it for us, because i think that it's a really important story, not only what
5:52 am
you did, but obviously what it means for the country. so when the gunman came back and you saw -- well, i guess you just heard gunshots, and here comes -- i mean, one of the remarkable parts of the story, you took cover, you heard the gunshots, and then as i understand it you counted the gunshots and when you believed the gunman was out of bullets, you then approached and tried to take him down but your calculation was wrong. what happened then? >> well, after i had miscounted a little bit, i tried to take him down, and like you said, that's when he had turned on me and fired upon me, and still, it's been a little blur with everything. >> yeah. dr. norman, we see obviously that ian is still in the midst
5:53 am
of recovering. the bullet went through his hand, as we understand it, and fractured a vertebra in his neck. can you just explain how it is possible that he is sitting next to you doing as well as he is doing this morning? >> it's a very remarkable story. bullets don't necessarily take a straight line trajectory, and that's what happened with ian, it went through his hand and went into his body and made a right turn, and hit his clavicle, ribs, and the srur traeb rul body of his spine, fortunately missing his spinal cord and lodging in his left shoulder area. he had a collapsed lung and bleed into his chest, and had to have a chest tube and reconstructive surgery on his hand, that his vocal cord is off as you can hear from his raspy voice, we are trying to redefine
5:54 am
as a sexy voice, but trying to make a quick recovery. >> "the star" is trying to get president trump to speak out about this before his address before congress, and they want him to talk about how these two indian men, the guys you describe as being friendly guys in a bar were targeted by this gunman because she believhe bel to be middle eastern. do you want to hear president trump say something tonight? >> i would like to hear him address it because it's a very sensitive subject right now, and i think it should be addressed because there's lot of people in mourning, and it's just -- it's a very sad subject, and the simple fact that nothing has been addressed about it at this time, it's saddening to see that, and like i said, there's a loft people in mourning and it's happening all over the word, and people are emotional distraught
5:55 am
over the entire situation, and it would be nice to have something addressed about it and a little closure for everybody struggling with this right now. >> and the division in the country is a sad subject, but you are a beacon of light, ian. thank you for your heroism and for running towards the danger to try and stop it and to protect basically two strangers that you felt for. you wish you the speediest of recovery, and dr. norman, thank you very much for sharing all of this with us this morning. >> you're welcome. >> chris? up next, jimmy kimmel is responding to the epic oscar's mistake. how can he make this funny? next. your insurance company
5:56 am
won't replace the full value of your totaled new car. the guy says you picked the wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. and if you have more than one liberty mutual policy, you qualify for a multi-policy discount, saving you money on your car and home coverage. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance.
5:57 am
5:58 am
but shouldn't it be about firsts?d in zeros. and seconds... how about adding a third? we think there's a bajillion ways to measure success.
5:59 am
and whether you have hundreds or millions... we think you deserve the financial freedom to sleep like this at night. this is the new success story. and at t-i-a-a, we're with you. start today at t-i-a-a dot org. they are laughing at themselves this time. it's envelopegate. >> we were chugging along, and then all of a sudden out of nowhere, it turned into a morey paternity test episodes. >> and the academy award for best picture -- >> "la la land."
6:00 am
>> if you saw the card he was given to read, it was pretty confusing. >> and the academy award -- [ laughter ] -- for best picture -- >> and to faye dunaway. >> that's awesome. two people who never make mistakes, poppy harlow, and john berman. >> if it happened here it would half to be poppy's fault. it was the best way to end the oscars ever, unless you are one of the films involved or the academy, or warren beatty, or faye dunaway. all

125 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on