this is gps, the global public square. welcome to all of you in the united states and around the world. i'm fareed zakaria coming to you live from new york. we'll begin today's show with the latest on the swirling allegations about trump's inner circle and its relations with russia. what is going on? plus, north korea, china, isis, all that with two former national security advisers, tom donealin and steven hadley. and the president's immigration plan. he told americans it would save billions of dollars.

really? we'll crunch the numbers. also, has the storied american dream been taken over by the canadian dream? walt author scott gilmore claims the dream has moved up north and he has the figures to back it up. then big data and the elections. did all that information that facebook collect but help donald trump win the election? we'll explore. and now here's my take. the first time i met general david petraeus he said something that surprised me. it was the early days of the iraq war, and i asked him whether he wished he had more troops. now, petraeus was too politically savvy to criticize the bush administration's light footprint strategy, so he deflected the question, answering it in a different way. i wish we had more foreign service officer, aid

professionals and other kinds of nonmilitary specialists. the heart of the problem the united states was facing in iraq, he noted presciently, was deep sectarian divide between the sunnis, arabs and kurds, we need help on those issues. otherwise we're relying on 22-year-old sergeants to handle them. now, they're great kids, but they really don't know the history, the language, the politics. president trump is proposing a $54 billion increase for the defense department which would be offset by large cuts in the state department, foreign aid and other civilian agencies. trump says he wants to do this so that nobody will dare question our military might again. but no one does. the u.s. military remains in a league of its own. the american defense budget in 2015 was nine times the size of russia's and three times that of china's. none of the difficulties the u.s. has had over the past 25

years have been anyway because its military was too small or too weak. as defense secretary robert gates noted in a 2007 lecture, one of the most important lessons of the wars in iraq and afghanistan is that military success is not sufficient to win. so achieve long-term success, he explained, requires economic development, institution building and good governance. therefore, he called for a dramatic increase in spending on the civilian instruments of national security including diplomacy and foreign assistance. trump says we must do a lot more with less, but the obvious target for this effort should be the pentagon, which is the poster child for waste in government. the pentagon is now the world's largest bureaucracy running a cradle-to-grave quasisocialist system of employment, housing, health care and pensions for its 3 million employees.

a recent report from the defense board concluded it could easily save $125 billion over five years by removing operational inefficiencies. senior officials, of course, quickly buried the report. those savings alone would fund the entire state department plus all foreign aid programs for 2 1/2 years. gates used to note we have more people in military bands than we have foreign service officers. trump railed in his address to congress, as he has in the past, about the $6 trillion that the u.s. has spent in the middle east. that figure is exaggerated, but he is right. when the pentagon goes to war, costs go through the stratosphere. in just one example, propublic ka tallied the costs and found that the military had wasted at least $17 billion on a variety of projects. rosa brooks who served as a

civilian adviser at the pentagon under president obama, has written a fascinating book. "how everything became war and the military became everything." it describes how u.s. policy has been contorted by a military that keeps expanding while all other agencies wither. one of the blushes on the back of the book says one of the most thought provoking books i've ever read. it's as if we have been sleep walking into this new world and rosa has turned on a flashlight. that commendation comes from jim mattis, the new secretary of defense. perhaps he should give that book to his boss. for more go to gps-cnn.com/fareed. and let's get started. there's so much to talk

about from a presidential tweet storm to that growing controversy over connections between trump's inner circle and russia. we'll try to get to the rest of the world as well. joining me now two former national security advisors, tom donealin was president obama's security adviser and worked in the clinton and carter administrations. he's now vice chair of the law firm o'melveny & myers. he's now principal of the strategic consulting firm rice, hadley, gates. we do have this allegation made by the president of the united states about your former boss, president obama. he says that barack obama essentially tapped his phones. what is your reaction to that? >> well, good morning. my reaction is that its an exceedingly inappropriate comment from a president of the united states to make with no evidence provided and no backup, in the last 24 hours the white

house has been asked about it repeatedly and hasn't been able to provide any evidence supporting this. it betrays the misunderstanding of how these operations work in the government. the president of the united states cannot unilaterally undertake to surveil a u.s. citizen. it would have to go to either the fisa court or a title three court. but most importantly i think this is what it undiscoursed to me, the necessity and indeed the inevitability of an independent investigation into this whole matter. what we know from the election, based on a public intelligence report on january 6th, is that the russians attempted to interfere in the u.s. election. that's the core of what needs to be investigated. an independent investigation on capitol hill and the executive branch should be put together, should be put together immediately. that's the message to me. >> steve hadley, is what tom said to you seem right to you that the president of the united states cannot ask for the

surveillance of a u.s. citizen. there would have to have been a court that did it? >> that is correct. and you know, i think the question here is one, was there some kind of illegal wiretap, which would be very troublesome. in terms of a legal wiretap, you know, "the wall street journal" ran an op-ed actually an editorial on friday which said that there was allegations floating around that political appointees in the obama administration had authorized surveillance of folks associated with the trump campaign. no basis for that. we do know that the obama administration was very concerned about the contacts between trump folks and also the russians. and i think the question is, were they so concerned about those contacts that they were concerned there might be collusion between trump campaign officials and russian authorities to try to throw the election to trump? if that was the case, that would

be the basis, i think, for a probable cause to go to a court and try to get a wiretap. the question is did that occur? was that justified? and one of those things that needs to be looked at. the proper sequence here is let the fbi complete its investigation, let the senate intel communities review that and then decide whether we need some kind of independent further investigation. >> fareed, let me add on to steve's point just for a moment here, it's kind of a bigger point. one, we do have this bigger issue of russian interference in the democratic process both here and, by the way, in europe as well. but between us, steve and i worked with the last seven u.s. presidents. every u.s. president's faced cris crises, and this president will, whether it's clinton facing the oklahoma city terrorism bombing or president bush 43 facing 9/11 and president obama facing the financial crisis. and at that point the president

of the united states' words matter and his credibility matters and the administration should be building towards a point where people can rely -- because they're going to have to rely on what the president represents to them. they'll have to rely on the sense that the gooft is competent and can handle these things and go forward in a competent fashion. if you undermine the value of presidential statements, presidential words, you really undercut yourself in the future when you face that inevitably crisis. that's a really concerning point for me. >> steve, when i look at this, can i just ask you -- >> sure. >> it does strike one that this is now part of a pattern. whenever there's inconvenient, uncomfortable news for president trump, he somehow latches on to some tangential allegation and then hypes it up and essentially seems to try to change the subject. there are so many cases now where this happens. is it too cynical to view this

as just some kind of elaborate distraction from the news about jeff sessions and the fact that the attorney general of the united states did seem to have misled congress under sworn testimony? >> well, i hope we come back to the jeff sessions point, because i think tom and i both have some views on that. look, i think it did change the subject. it tried to get the tension off of the jeff sessions matter. it tried to put some question with respect to the activities of the obama administration. it is a distraction, but you know, one of the problems is, as important as getting to the bottom of all this is, it's a huge distraction for the government in trying to do what the people sent the president and members of congress to washington to do, which was to deal with some of the many national security and foreign policy and domestic policy problems that this country faces. and you know, this is a huge distraction from getting -- going and moving forward on the

business of government. it's really quite unfortunate. >> all right. hold on, both of you, we will get to the jeff sessions business, but i also have to ask you guys about something else. north korea's on the path to perhaps be able to hit the united states with a nuclear missile at some point. does the trump administration face a choice, bomb north korea or talk to it? all when we come back. say goodbye to extra taxes and fees on your wireless bill and hello to t-mobile one. right now, get 2 lines of unlimited data for $100 bucks taxes and fees included. 2 lines, $100 dollars. all in, all unlimited. switch today. or is it your allergy pills? holding you back break through your allergies. introducing flonase sensimist. more complete allergy relief in a gentle mist you may not even notice. using unique mistpro technology, new flonase sensimist delivers a gentle mist to help block six key inflammatory substances that cause your symptoms.

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clinton when perjury was an impeachable offense. should jeff sessions resign? >> well, i've not examined the text of his testimony in the kind of detail you would need to do to make that kind of judgment. i do think it was appropriate for him to recuse himself from all the matters related to the 2016 election and afterwards with respect to the matters around russia and the communications in light of not taking place between the administration or the campaign and russia. it was appropriate response for him. you know that the root of this, i think, fareed, is a couple fold. one is an approach to russia, which has been uncritical, a refusal to criticize vladimir putin personally and a refusal to underscore a kind of a number of the steps that the russians have taken in really what's been a pattern of act of hostility towards the united states and it's been unexplained. there's never been a presentation with respect to why the president and the campaign goes in this direction and you have this cascading site of new

disclosures and inconsistent explanations which goes to the point you're making earlier, there needs to be an accounting and it needs to be investigate and addressed. otherwise, as steve said ellier, it will be a continuing distraction from the work of the administration. >> steve, is that a fair point, the puzzle of their attitude toward russia, no one would find it objectionable if they admitted they had some contacts with russia. but still odd that so many administration officials seem to have had during the campaign contact with russia. i don't see a similar pattern, for example, of contacts with great britain or with germany. there does seem to be something with this, whether it's manafort, sessions, flynn, that they've had contact with russia and then the curiosity of the president who thinks every other country in the world is out to screw the united states except russia. >> you know, we've had a lot of focus on the contacts between trump associates and russia.

we've not looked at trump contact between trump associates and other countries. it may be they're extensive as well. on the russia piece, though, at this point i think there is no reason to think that jeff sessions should resign. you know, the oldest rule in washington is it is not what you do that gets you in trouble, it's how you respond when it becomes to become public. and i think the reason jeff sessions at this point, given what we all know, should not resign is there was nothing wrong in having contacts with the russian ambassador and there seems to have been nothing wrong with what he said. the problem is i think he muffed the answers to the questions in his confirmation hearing. he was being asked about campaign contacts and i think what he will say monday when he offers a public statement explaining his testimony, i think what he'll say and what he's indicated so far is he didn't see himself talking to the russian ambassador as a campaign official, rather as a

member of the senate armed services committee. you can decide how you feel about that explanation, but i think what we ought to do is wait and see what he says on monday. he's already said that he thinks he should have disclosed during hearing the contacts he had and then explain why he did not -- why they were not inappropriate. i think that's exactly what he should have done. hopefully he will explain that on monday. but at this point, i don't think this is a resignation issue. >> but the course of events really does raise the bar significantly high for the independence of the next stage of the investigation here in order to -- in order to assure the american people that it's been looked at closely and independently. >> well, he's done that, he's recused himself from any investigations having to do with the campaign and that was the right thing to do. >> so let me ask you guys about north korea, because there's this very troubling long piece in "the new york times," very well reported, i think. and it seems to suggest honestly that both your administrations

were not successful in what was clearly a stated goal, which was to deter north korea from acquiring the capacity to build an intercontinental nuclear missile, in other words, one capable of hitting the united states. so at this point tom donilon, what is the path forward? sanctions haven't worked, the most sanctioned country in the world. pressure on china hasn't worked. you spent hundreds of hours talking to the china. what do we do? does the united states bomb north korea or does it talk to it and try to set up some kind of negotiation? >> fareed, it's the most serious security situation in asia and one of the most serious security situations is and challenges that president trump and the new administration faces. my own judgment is that almost all the indicators are going in negative directions, whether they be north korea's progress on testing nuclear weapons and developing nuclear weapons. they claim that they're working

on militarization. we have in the last year a couple of missile tests which is basically a program towards trying to achieve a missile that can reach the united states and intercontinental ballistic missile. you've seen this serious disintegration between relations between north korea and china over the last years. a serious challenge and may be the first real crisis this administration will face. what to do? i think we need to look at the sanctions regime. i would recommend looking at a regime that gets to the level that we got to, for example, with iran where there were regime threatening sanctions. second, this is a real test for the u.s./china relationship in our ability to work together with them on a serious security issue which we have not been fully aligned with to date. some progress, but not fully aligned. third, we need to continue to put in place the kind of defensive measures that we need to have in the region. and at that point from a position of strength, you'd want to have a negotiation get under

way that would address the program. but this is very serious problem. >> steve, i hate to do this to you, but you have one minute to solve the north korean problem. >> we tried negotiations, we had an agreement in the clinton administration and in the bush administration for north korea to give up their weapons. they didn't. we have to enhance deterrents, we have to put in place missile defense, we need to take away as much as we can the option of north korea to threaten south korea. only then, i think will china reconsider its position and maybe put the kind of pressure on north korea to solve this problem. >> would you talk to them, steve? >> i wouldn't talk to them until i'd enhanced deterrents, until i had gotten a common strategy with our other allies, until they've given some indication that, indeed, talking is going to work. we've tried it under the clinton administration, we've tried it in the bush administration. it didn't work either time. >> gentlemen, pleasure. thank you so much. next donald trump claims his immigration policy will be good

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that's an increase of almost 110% and it's bigger than the total combined budgets of the epa and the department of commerce. the number of i.c.e. offices, customs and border protection offices and border agents has grown by more than 60% since 2003, from 31,000 to its current level of 50,000, making it larger than the new york city police force. yet the president wants to hire even more agents. john kelly, his homeland security secretary, has authorized the hiring of an additional 15,000 border patrol agents and i.c.e. officers which is an increase of 31% from existing levels. upi reports those additional agents and officers could cost between 1.4 to $1.5 billion annually. then there's the cost of the 2,000-mile-long very high wall stretching from the pachk ific the gulf of mexico.

president trump seems determined to build this wall. the times cites a report that the actual cost of the wall would be closer to $40 billion. as for trump's promise to have mexico pay for the wall, well, we know that's not going to happen. adding it all up, that's about $20 billion a year to run the deterrence, deportation system plus tense of billions to buil the wall. there's a deeper cost to the economy. undocumented immigrants work in all sectors of society from retail businesses, restaurants and hotels to manufacturing and farm work. one example. according to the findings of two queens college professors the deportation of 11 million undocumented worker was immediate reduce the nation's gdp by 1.4% and ultimately by 2.6% and reduce cumulative gdp over ten years by $4.7 trillion. what makes this all the more

baffling is that the number of mexican immigrants in the united states is on the decline. i have often pointed out on this program that an important and comprehensive study from the pew research center shows that from 2009 to 2014 more immigrants have actually returned to mexico than came to the united states from mexico. in other words, we are fighting the last war at a staggering economic and human cost. next on gps, have america's neighbors to the north stolen the american dream? is it now the canadian dream? that's what my next guest argues when we come back.

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matter how you cut the american dream or no matter how you describe the american dream whether it's life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, or a car, a job and a degree, it's now become easier in canada. there are some obvious reasons. the health care system, for one. we don't have people going bankrupt because of health care costs, where the poorer sides of society continue to thrive. access to education is easier. there are cheaper degrees. you don't have the student loan problem in the united states. we have our problems but we seem to be muddling through and doing a little bit better. >> one of the things you don't talk as much about here but i'm sure you know about this, but social mobility indices that people look at, that is if you are born into a lower strata of income, in canada you now have a much greater chance of moving up in one lifetime than you have in the united states. >> that's right. i mean, the american dream is based on this idea that you could pull yourself up by the bootstraps, rags to riches, but in fact that's actually

happening less and less in the united states compared to a lot of western country. in canada, like you said, you can go from the lowest quintile of income to the highest. and the correlation between your parents' income and your income is half as strong in canada. so regardless of what your parents do, you can have a better chance of making it. >> that's a very important one. because what it strikes at it seems to me in large part is education. rich people's kids in america get a better education because our public education system is funded by local property taxes. >> that's right. >> whereas in canada, no matter whether you're rich or poor, you're going to get a school that's about as good and at a very high quality. >> we like to think that some of our best universities compare to harvard, yale or princeton. i don't think they're quite at that level. across the board, universities that are very accessible are world renowned good institutions and you can go through it

without going broke. >> at the primary level, your system is of equal or higher quality. that's to me the big differen shatter, where the american k through 12 system is really where kids are in a completely different world rngts i hesitate to be too glowing about it because in canada our indigenous community, inuit, armati are not having the same access to health care and schools. >> what percentage of the population are they? >> it's 5%. >> what's striking to me, people might think this is a case for the social welfare paradise, this is the kind of argument of left wing types saying you're a conservative. >> i am. >> and you point out that compared to canada, america isn't even the land of the free anymore. by the cato institute's ranking,

canada is at number 6 in the world, american limps in at 23. another conservative think tank ranks canada much higher for economic freedom and reporters without borders scores canada much higher on press freedoms. this is a product that the canadian economy is quite free and quite open but that there have been a whole series of reforms over the last 15, 20 years in kand darks right? >> there has. there have been some indicators that show that canada has had this freedom going back a lot farther than that but under the previous conservative government and the new liberal government there's a recognition that overall welfare of the society is driven by a healthy private sector. how can we create a level playing field for everybody but one that people can prosper? when you talk about freedom and the american dream, the statistic that i find the most troubling is that in the united states your average american is six times more likely to be incarcerated, in prison or in

jail than the average canadian or the european. i don't think that's something that americans realize that the prison system or the justice system is so different from the rest of the woeestern world. >> we have an attorney general who thinks the problem is there aren't enough people in prison. >> right. >> let me ask you about two things that donald trump has focused in on. during the campaign, this is something he would not like to remember, but he once pointed out that universal health care systems do seem to work sometimes pretty well, single payer systems and he pointed specifically to canada. so you're a conservative great free market advocate. you income the canadian system overall works better? >> objectively it does. the canadian system has problems. i would argue as a canadian, huge problem. but nonetheless, you see it in all the outcomes, whether it's life expectancy, infant mortality or overall healthiness, canadians are doing better. >> and at a much lower cost. >> much lower cost. >> what do you spend as a

percentage of your gdp? >> i couldn't say exactly but one half of what is spent in the united states. >> is this reality of a canadian dream leading to the very uncanadian phenomena of arrogance? >> oh, my goodness, yes. particularly since the election in the united states. canada has reacted with fascination and horror and not a little bit of smugness at what we've seen unfold here compared to politics in europe and politics in canada. it's something that it's hard for us to understand. >> well, pleasure to have you on. >> my pleasure. >> thank you. next on gps, what do big tech companies know about you? based simply on your digital footprint. more than your spouse knows perhaps. and that information might have helped sway the election. how? we'll explain when we come back.

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election. how big? well, my next guest is well placed to answer that question. he's the man who pioneered the model that can determine your most intimate personality traits based on your digital footprint. taking just 68 of your facebook likes this doctor's model can accurately predict your skin color, sexuality, whether you're a democrat or a republican or a trump supporter. add a few more and based on 300 hub facebook likes the model is set to know you better than you know yourself. what does this have to do with donald trump's victory, fake news and targeted social media? here to discuss dr. mckyle shasinski. there is this idea out there fueled by trump campaign that cambridge an na it willics allowed them to identify trump

voters, you know, find ways to get them more active and ultimately the argument goes, to win the election. what do you say? >> well, both sides were certainly using big data and targeted marketing to win over voters, but i think we should remember it's not big data that wins the election at the end of the day. it's candidates and what they have to say and what's the mood of the voters. >> but the theory behind that argument was the theory that you helped pioneer which is using a certain number of thins thgs we do on the internet, what songs we buy, what amazon books or products we look at, you can predict things that are much deeper and don't seem necessarily associated, right? explain some of that. >> yes, that's correct. so actually computers are very good at predicting our intimate

traits. sometimes they are better than our close once and i would argue that they're often better than we are ourselves very often. and it's really simple really. if you look at my facebook profile or any twitter profile, you would probably not have much trouble figuring out what my political views are or what my personality is. now, a computer can do the same thing basically by analyzing large amounts of data from your twitter profile, your e-mail, your play lists, your facebook profile and so on. it can create a very accurate and intimate psychodemocratic profile of yourselves and of other people. this information can obviously be used in marketing and specifically in political marketing. if i have a detailed knowledge of profiles of a large number of people, i can use this information to craft individual messages and

speak individually to each of those people and try to make this message as convincing and relevant to them as possible. >> and to be clear, all this is widely available and companies like facebook and google and amazon will sell this data to anyone who wants to buy it. >> i think it's a bit more complicated than that, but definitely companies like facebook or google provide platforms that can be used by marketing companies to target people based on the interests, political affiliations, and so on. >> are some of these things things that human beings can't do? one thing computers are good at doing is analyzing massive amounts of data. so that i may have some preferences and you may look at them and say "yeah, that probably means he likes simon a and garfunkle," but the computer

can look at millions and millions of patterns. >> exactly. not only can the computer look at millions and billions of people and create their psychodemographic profiles but the computer can use information that for humans would not be very informative. right? so if you see me following obama or bernie sanders on twitter, it's not a complicated task to figure out what my political views would be. but now that if you see lady gaga or simon and garfunkel, that's something humans would struggle with because both republicans and democrats listen to lady gaga. now what computer can do, the computer can look at this data in much more detail. it can look at millions of people and i bet that there would be a small difference between how likely the republicans are to listen to lady gaga and how likely democrats are to listen to lady gaga.

now does it mean if you listen to lady gaga you're a democrat or republican? not at all. it's just a tiny bordering on insignificant information like that. but now the algorithm can aggregate information from thousands or millions of information and then create an accurate prediction. >> what are the ethical dilemmas of wading into these waters? >> well, you have to republican these can be used for good or turned against you. they can behind your back without you knowing trying to infer your intimate traits such as your political views, your sexual orientation, your personality and intelligence. and now actually in a country as free and open minded as america

it's probably not a big issue today. but we have to republican the same technologies are being used by government where revealing political leaning or sexual orientation can be a matter of life or death. >> so that's an important point. the russian government which is very media and tech savvy, as we know, can probably determine who -- where the political opposition would lie without anybody else saying anything. without anybody publishing an op-ed or attending a demonstration. >> exactly. just based on your music play lists or the books you have read. even if you have never read anything related to politics. computer algorithms can turn these seemingly innocent data into accurate predictions of your intimate traits. >> michael kozinski, pleasure to have you on. >> thank you, sir. next on gps, some frequent

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per week. my colleagues and i recently launched a gps newsletter, fareed's global briefing. you can go to cnn.com/fareed to subscribe. every weekday you'll get what the gps staff and i believe are the best insights and analysis about the world today. it's basically a cheat sheet of the best stuff to read that day. on sundays you'll get what's coming up on the show that day. i think you'll find it helpful in this crazy and complicated world. the answer to my question is b, king salman of saudi arabia arrived in indonesia for a less than two-week trip and reportedly brought over 500 ton 60s luggage on cargo with him. for reference, that's the weight of more than 300 hippopotamus. it included two mercedes benzs, two electric elevators and the luggage of his companions. of course, the american

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