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-- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com top of this second hour of 360, the white house stands by president trump's tweets alleging president obama tapped his phones during the campaign, what he does not do is offer any evidence at this point at all to support the president's allegations or say that they've seen any evidence. listen to sean spicer earlier today. >> has the white house come up with any evidence whatsoever to prove that allegation? >> the president, we put out a statement on sunday saying we would have no further comment. >> where's the evidence?
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where's the proof that president obama bugged president trump? >> well, i answered this question yesterday on camera, on your air. so just so we're clear. >> since yesterday -- >> nothing has changed. it's not a question of new proof or less proof. >> have you seen any evidence yourself? >> as far as me? no. >> as for the rlawmakers lookin into it, they have been talking as well. what's been the reaction from republicans today? >> reporter: well, anderson, republicans really don't know what the president was talking about over the weekend. i have spent the day talking to top republicans in the house and the senate. they have not seen any evidence to suggest that the president, the former president of the united states ordered any sort of surveillance on the current president of the united states. even in a closed-door senate intelligence committee briefing, i was told they did not look at any evidence on this issue, so
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they are waiting for the white house to present some of the evidence on these allegations, adam schiff says he's going to ask this question to james comey and other top intelligence officials on march 20th, the first hearing of the house intelligence committee on the issue of russia and russia meddling, but they are at a loss. take a listen. >> have you seen any evidence to support the president's claim that he has been wiretapped by the previous president? >> yeah, i have not. i have not seen that evidence. >> will you also look into this allegation of wiretapping and the president being wiretapped by president obama? ? i think, i think all of that is part of the investigation. >> do you believe the president when he says that? >> well, like i said, it needs an investigation so we can find out what the facts are. so we'll follow the facts wherever they may lead. >> reporter: now anderson, at that press conference today,
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devon nunez was asked, i said do you think donald trump's tax returns should be part of this investigation to determine any ties between him and russia. he said he's very leery about issuing subpoenas to get tax returns. and he does not believe there was any roeshen conspiracy to help elect donald trump even as the intelligence community has suggested the opposite. >> there seems to be concern that the department is not providing enough information about these investigations. >> reporter: that's right. you heard devon nunez and adam schiff raise those concerns, suggesting that in some of these classified briefings they were not getting all the information in the more sensitive investigations ongoing and nunez suggesting that one of those was an investigation of donald trump and his associates and russia during the campaign season last year. suggesting that perhaps the capitol hill was not aware of what the fbi was doing. it really shows, anderson, some tension looming between the intelligence community and the
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intelligence committees on capitol hill at the onset of these investigations. >> thanks very much. >> reporter: thank you. although the president has yet to elaborate on the basis for his tweets, he cited one of the reports the "new york times." there's been a lot of discussion about the sourcing of the president claimed that president obama ordered his phones to be wiretapped. some saying it not only came from right-leaning websites but from an article you co-wrote in the times in january. does your reporting in any way suggest the claim that the president's making, that president obama tapped then candidate trump's phones? >> nowhere in this story does it say that. it says that there's a broad investigation based on wire tapped and intercepted communications. it does not say whose communications were intercepted. i also would point readers to something they leave out. is another story we wroet last woke on march 1st that
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explicitly says that much of the communications intercepted were russians talking to russians. they were hearing about things through those communications, were there fisa on donald trump's campaign phones, we don't know that. if we did know that, it would absolutely be in the newspaper. >> so the communications you're talking about were russians talking to russians. i. >> i can't get into the sourcing, but i can tell you absolutely absolutely if we knew at that time or we knew now that they were monitoring donald trump's communications or any of his immediate advisers regularly, we would be saying that in the newspaper. that is a news story. and the same thing goes with michael flynn. they bring up michael flynn's communications with the russian ambassador. he was picked up because he was talking to the russian ambassador whose phones are absolutely monitored and have been monitored, what, for 70 years now they weren't tracking
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michael flynn or tapping his calls. they were tapping the ambassador and he got on the rhine wiline . >> it says quote, one official says intelligence officials based on some of the wire tapped communications have been provided to the white house. do you have any idea who has being wiretapped? >> i don't want to get into who was being wiretapped, but being provided to the white house doesn't mean trump. when people are on the phone, say two foreign officials are talking about an american, the name of that american is going to be masked, blanked out. in the report and only certain people can it be unmasked if you need it in a national security context, people can figure out who that is. but they aren't made available. >> i'm quoting, it is not clear
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whether the intercepted communications had anything to do with mr. trump's campaign or mr. trump himself. why do you think, given that disclaimer the story's been brought into this discussion at all? >> i can only speculate so much here, but this seems like an after the fact kind of justification saying hey, look, the "new york times" did it. therefore we're right. which is ironic, considering these are the same people who go around calling us fake news and saying we make stuff up. we're not making this up, but we don't know if trump's phones were being monitored or not. >> and whether or not there was a fisa warrant, that's not known, i'm assuming. >> i don't know. what i've read and what the fbi seems to be saying is that there isn't one, but, again, i'll leave that to my colleagues to cover the fbi and the intelligence community. this is not what we said, and i would point people to the story that came after it. and to other reporting that does say they were listening to russian officials. they were monitoring this stuff, and they were picking people up
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being discussed. >> appreciate your time. if you can, stick around. i want to bring in our panel. jeff, i want to start but. you cited rosenberg's article. >> exactly. the point is that these "new york times" stories and others, not just the times, the washington post, the guardian, et cetera, were building a narrative, that the trump campaign was somehow illicitly involved in russian contact. >> you're saying this article somehow validates president trump's accusation to president obama? >> i just listened to this spranation and i still believe that. because the thus, as part of the narrative that has been used, the media narrative is that this trump has got this thing going with the russians and the russians kicked over the election for him. that's not true. there is no proof of this whatsoever. but this is definitely part of the media narrative. >> i don't think people are making the allegation that the russians affected the outcome of the election for donald trump.
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>> that certainly is the allegation. >> but certainly, that's where donald trump feels the allegation's being made, but you can believe that the russians hacked and that hillary clinton lost and donald trump won. >> and candidly, this is the difference between the conservative media and the mainstream media. and whether we're talking talk rat radio or internet, the believe is there that the media narrative has been planted that the russians swung this election to donald trump and that's what democrats -- >> just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true. >> my articles are true, anderson. >> of course. >> you keep conflating the two things. the question were russians were involved in the election has nothing to do with this was all a "new york times" setup that donald trump's allegation that obama wiretapped him. they're two separate things, and you keep conflating the two. >> but where does the information about trump and the russians come from? it comes from surveillance.
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>> well, we just had our annie hall moment, where we had the person who wrote the story there who's saying what you're saying is not accurate, that the basis for trump's tweet cannot be this "new york times" article, because it has no relation. >> i want to bring you in. do you want to respond to anything jeff has said? >> i don't want to get into huge back and forth about this. i'll say that surveillance goes on in many different ways and shapes and forms. nowhere does it say that donald trump was under surveillance, trust me, if we knew that -- >> in there? >> this is what i mean about getting into a back and forth debate. that's kind of not the question that's the point here. you said that somehow we said donald trump was under surveillance. only the most obtuse misreading of this would be the one to conclude that this story said donald trump was under surveillance. >> people believe what they want to believe. i mean, we live in a polarized nation. as jeffrey said, in conservative media, there's a narrative out
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there and donald trump supporters brief it. >> you can also ask people if they think that the news is biassed, and it mostly breaks down along partisan lines. this is what we were talking about earlier, they called it constitutional crisis. i don't know if it's so much a stooigsal crisis, but there is a real burden put on consumers of news to identify and figure out what is real and what is true. are you going to go to your echo chamber? are you going to laook at multiple sources of news and decide what holds water and what doesn't. >> i keep coming back to this idea that if the president wanted to -- you know, it's hard to imagine the president would tweet out such an allegation against the former president without having any information, assuming that is what he did, he still could call up, right by himself or right now, have people call up the fbi or department of justice and find out the facts. >> would you like to think based on wording of his tweet he's her
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done that. he knows the source where he got this information from. if you dial it back a little bit, we already had an obama spokesperson saying we had nothing to do with it. the former director of national intelligence, james clapper saying he didn't have anything to do with it. but he also said it could still have gone on, he just didn't know about it. matthew brings up the point about the fisa warrant, who would know about that? loretta lynch? what did she know and when did she know it >> the president of the united states could call the department of justice now and get that information and declassify -- >> exactly. >> -- anything he wanted to. and that's my next point. that's what he should do. he should put out exactly what he knows, where the source of his tweet came from, and let's get on. rhett let's talk about the health care plan, the immigration executive order. i don't think this is what his message should be this week. >> does this step on, we have
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seen instances where the president and whether by design or accident has stepped on rollouts they had planned? >> i think he should live with it. nobody forced him to get up in the morning and tweet out these absurd charges. nobody forced him to tell his spokesperson to go poout and essentially make a fool of himself at the briefing today. nobody told him to call for a congressional investigation that nobody wants. he could pick up the phone and call barack obama. he could pick up the phone and call the speaker of the house. he could have handled this any number of different ways, and he chose not to. let's do all of us the favor of treating him like a responsible adult even though he doesn't act like one all of the time. say mr. president, you started it, now you're going to river wi -- live with it. there's going to be an investigation of all of the oligarchs from russia that you borrowed money from for 30 years, all of that stuff needs to come out.
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>> we heard from knnunez earlie saying to the media, you guys take the president literally. if i were the president of the united states i would want people to take me literally, because it seems pate ronnizing not to. >> i lived throughout the campaign when he accused my boss, ted cruz's father of being involv involved in the jfk assassination. that was not true, news flash. here's the prunts. when he tweets this, he surely knows how it's going to be interpreted. it's important that he understands now that every word he says is going to be taken seriously. >> i want to thank everybody. it used to be fbi directors were all but faceless. that's not the case with james comey. next, why he has found himself at the center of this and so
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result of finding thousands of e-mails on anthony weiner's computer. his response, they have learned of the existence of e-mails that are pertinent to the investigation. >> i'm confident, whatever they are, will not change the conclusion reached in july. therefore it's yes, ma' imperat they explain this without any delay. >> reporter: comey dropped it and later explained in a letter to fbi employees why he felt the need to share. i feel an obligation to do so, given that i testified in recent months that our investigation was completed, i also think it would be misleading to the american people were we not to supplement the record. but that's not the whole story. turns out that same month the
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fbi was also investigating russia's meddling in the presidential election. intelligence fishlts were looking at possible ties between russia and donald trump's campaign, but none of that was ever made public in the lead-up to election day, only the renewed investigation into clinton's e-mails sglmt there's a very clear and extremely troubling double standard in director comey's actions. the director owes the americans and congress an explanation. >> reporter: long after the election, in january, comey testified before the senate intelligence committee. when asked whether the fbi was investigating connections between the russian government or the trump team he would only say they would not confirm or deny. >> i didn't say one way or the other. >> you didn't say one way or the other weather evhether even the investigation under way. >> correct. >> reporter: he said the investigations into clinton's e-mails were closed already and
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was no longer open or pending when he spoke about it days before voters went to the polls. and now with the latest suggestion that president obama had his phones wiretapped, the fbi director is back in the headlines. he was apparently incredulous and asked his staff to reach out to the justice department to knock down the allegation. known for his bipartisan fairness, james comey is in a tangle with both sides. randi kaye, cnn, new york. >> one person certainly saw his professional life rocked is former clinton campaign manager, robby mook. what do you make of the spot that director comey is in? he could refute president trump's accusation against president obama, and i'm sure you'll find that he was commenting about clinton during the campaign. >> it's disappointing that we are seeing restraint now and we didn't see restraint last year.
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what matters right now is where we go in the future. and the fact that director comey is in a bind right now, the fact that this is being made into a partisan issue on the hill and in the white house, when it shouldn't be one at all, to me reenforces that we need an independent, bipartisan commission to take this matter and get it investigated and come back to us and tell us what happened. >> and it is interesting, regarding comey, because until the campaign last year, the director, the fbi was not known as a partisan lightning rod. he served for republicans and democratic administrations. do you give him any benefit of the doubt that his intentions were in the right place? >> i think he was trying to do the right thing. i assume he was trying to do the right thing. i think where things went a little bit off was the fact that he broke protocol when it came to secretary clinton that there are rules in place you're not supposed to talk about a candidate or an election during a certain period before the
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election, he chose to break that, but now we're seeing all kinds of information come out that he had on now president trump. but then again, let's just get this entire issue of russia out of the political space and with some independent people who can objectively tell us what happened. >> do you have confidence in director comey's ability to oversee an investigation? >> i think the argument i'm making is this is so sticky, he shouldn't have to manage all this. i recognize he faces some impossible choices, and i would be the first one to say that the choices he faced in 2016 as well were not simple or easy. and i think this issue has become so polarized and so partisan that we need to lift it out, because what would be a tremendous tragedy would be that a true national security issue becomes so partisan that we don't actually do anything about it. what i'm very alarmed about is, if this is allowed to happen
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election after election, could you have campaign strategists like me sitting in a room thinking about russia and china the way we think about super pacs, that they're something that has to be strategically managed. that's incredibly dangerous, and we don't want to ever get there. >> when trump says everything under the umbrella of russian interference is a witch hunt for democrats to make up for a lost election. what would you say to the people who hear him and believe that that logic make sense? >> yeah, i'm really glad you asked this question. and i know i've said it a lot, but it's worth saying again. we can't treat this like a partisan issue. i understand how his administration would feel threatened by this. it was his aides that were communicating with the russians, but the message i'm trying to get out loud and clear is we can't allow the russians or any other entity to incorporate into our elections. it's just unacceptable.
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so i would actually urge the president's supporters to reach out to their members of congress and ask them for this independent objecttive assessment of what happened. >> robbie, thanks very much. >> thank you. just ahead, the house intelligence committee prepares for hearings on the russian meddling in the election, why is russia trying to influence events in the u.s.? with tums smoothies. it starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. and neutralizes stomach acid at the source. ♪ tum -tum -tum -tum smoothies! only from tums various: (shouting) heigh! ho! ( ♪ ) it's off to work we go! woman: on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. and each job created by the energy industry supports two others in the community. altogether, the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide. these are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, all while reducing america's emissions.
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tonight's breaking news, the house intelligence committee will hold its first public hearing on russia's meddling in america's election. the cover story, active measures, what lay behind russia interference written by david remnick. he worked for years as a correspondent in moscow. i spoke to him earlier about what he thinks is driving russia to interfere in our democracy. the magazine cover is a rift on the cover from 1985. the magazine's name is in
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cyrillic. attempting to create turbulence in the u.s. for russia, that is a way to overcome their inherent weakness. >> look, what does russia want? it doesn't just want the end to economic sanctions. it wants us out of their realm of what putin sees as its interests. when we raise something about oppression of journalists, you can be darn sure the next time that comes up that we're going to hear about enemies of the people, the phrase that donald trump used to describe you and me. >> yeah. it's interesting -- >> there's a kind of moral equivalence. >> so far, i don't even know if you can say there's smoke. there's certainly a lot of questions about contacts between the people around donald trump, about, around president trump and candidate trump and previously businessman trump and then russia and putin. >> and money. >> and money, and yet there's not any actual, there's nothing you can really point to and wrap
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your hands around. >> what's brought all this to the fore? what's brought all of this to the fore? all of it? for the most part it's been journalism, the washington post, the "new york times," "the new yorker." what seems to be absolutely self-evident, in order to get answers to all the obvious questions, has the president of the united states been compromised, what do we need to do to prevent this? journalism can only go so far, and without free and independent and deep investigation on the part of our law enforcement bodies and congress, we're lost. and so -- >> journalists can't do it all. there's no way. >> i don't think so. i have great pride in what journalists should be doing and what they are doing at the moment. i think it's an interesting and promising moment for journalism, which has been embattled financially for quite a while in recent years.
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but it can't do everything. even in watergate, you had courts that came into play. you had congressional hearings that came into play. the famous senate watergate hearings, and i think this is where we're headed. >> it's interesting, i interviewed this guy, carter page on friday night. he's one of the names that's continually come up. and when you meet the guy -- >> there's a binnality to it and a slipperiness of the way he talked to you. >> and also here's what we don't have, we don't have subpoena power. we can't -- the president, look, what are the missing pieces in this whole thing? the president's business dealings. >> that we don't know. >> we don't have his tax returns. what are tax returns after all for someone who is a president of the united states and for decades has been in business.
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there's a biography, an accounting biography of all his business dealings. we need to see that. i feel, you know, as a citizen, we always needed to see that in terms of an honest accounting of who he is and who he has been as a businessman throughout the campaign and look, again, we are six weeks into this presidency. look where we are. look where we are. it's a candidacy that began with a conspiracy theory, the birther theory. and now we have the president of the united states on a saturday morning, waking up at: 6:00 in the morning in florida and tweeting a half-dozen times without now evidence, without any basis that his predecessor had been spying on him. and then following it up with a tweet about arnold schwarzenegger and his ratings. this is where we are. and look how ungrounded we are. so many serious issues to deal with. >> on that issue, not the ratings, on the accusation
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against the former president, if the current president wanted to find out information about fisa court warrants, he can peck up the phone. >> he can pick up the phone. >> he can do that. >> there has to be some basis in reality though. >> the white house is now saying, look, there needs to be an investigation, we're not going to talk about it anymore until that investigation is done. >> perhaps. and at the same time, there are so many other issues surrounding his veracity. his stability from day to day. his level, the level of chaos in the white house. my colleague, adam davidson just published this week in "the new yorker" a piece about a business deal that the trump organization did in which they were dealing with one of the most corrupt families in the nation of azerbaijan. this is a hotel deal. and it seems that one of their other business partners in this was a business front for the iranian revolutionary guard. an organization that this administration wants to declare
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a terrorist organization. so i think the level of investigation that's needed is manifest. >> on the azerbaijan article which i read, it's fascinating, because the trump organization was saying initially, we didn't really, this was one of those licensing deals. they just put the name, the trump name. >> it's nonsense. >> as you discovered, that's not the case. >> that's the trump organization. and by the way, ivanka trump went to look into this deal. >> it wasn't like the landscaping. >> you know, you have a responsibility as an american business to do due diligence because of foreign, corrupt practices. and if you, and as adam discovered, the most cursory, the most cursory examination of this business would have revealed. >> as would a google search, that the family, as one of the wikileaks cables from the american embassy said to
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washington that the family has business partner was spectacularly corrupt, even by azerbaijani standards. >> corruption in azerbaijan -- >> is everywhere, is everywhere. just ahead, president trump served up a super size of animosity. we'll talk over with david gergen who's worked with four former presidents. index investing for that low? that's three times less than fidelity... ...and four times less than vanguard. what's next, no minimums? ...no minimums. schwab has lowered the cost of investing again. introducing the lowest cost index funds in the industry with no minimums. i bet they're calling about the schwab news. schwab. a modern approach to wealth management. a body without proper footd needssupport can mean pain. the dr. scholl's kiosk maps your feet and recommends
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as we reported earlier, white house press secretary sean spicer told reporters that president trump has no regrets about allegations that president obama allowed his phones to be tapped. the allegation which was fired off in a tweet storm early saturday morning is the latest example of president trump smashing a time-honored code among presidents. suzanne malvoe has more. >> reporter: the relationship between president trump and president obama have been
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getting cooler by the day. >> i've actually called the justice department to hook into the leaks. those are criminal leaks. >> reporter: trump accusing many holdovers from the obama administration of leaking classified and sometimes embarrassing information about him. and while the bombastic language from trump is not new. >> we have a disaster on our hands. we have a man right now that almost certainly awill go down s the worst president in the history of the unit. >> reporter: the public anno, sir its now that he's in office is at odds with the way past presidents have often behaved. >> we like to believe in our country that our ex-presidents get along and that they act in a civil mannerly way towards each other. clearly donald trump doesn't know about that position, and he lives in a state of paranoia. >> reporter: in times of crisis, presidents have often come together, despite their
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political differences, to show country comes first. >> they usually try to treat each other with magnanimous gestures of constant consultation, kindness, because after all, they're the ones who know what it's like to be in the white house. >> reporter: from president ford pardoning nix ton saver ton to country, to president bush asking others to help with hurricane katrina. >> reporter: president obama invited presidents bush and clinton to invite him at nelson mandela's funeral in south africa. and more recently, the bushes and obamas have grown close, seen here at the opening of the museum of african-american history and culture. >> that surprised everybody. that's what's so weird about
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society today, you know? that people on opposite sides of the political spectrum could actually like each other. >> reporter: so far it isn't clear if trump is interested in maintaining a friendly relationship with obama or any previous commanders in chief. his goal is to set himself apart from anyone and anything representing traditional washington. anderson? >> thanks very much. lots to talk about with david gergen who's been an adviser of four presidents and has seen first hand how presidents typically treat their predecessors. david, beyond breaking with tradition, is there a danger with a current president feuding with a previous one? certainly, you would want to think you could call up your predecessor for advice. there's few people who have had that job. >> absolutely. we've had what's famously known as a president's club. but who have become friends and worked together. famously, ronald reagan, when he was sworn in, the iranian
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hostages were released that day. and jimmy carter who had been defeated. reagan gave him air force one to go to germany and greet the hostages. carter was forever indebted for that. later when president sadat of egypt was shot, jimmy carter and president ford went together for a funeral. they became friends on that flight and worked together on a number of bipartisan issues thereafter. when the tsunami hit the pacific, you remember how president bush senior and bill clinton went and a raised money and clinton became so close to the bush family, they almost treated him like another son. these relationships have made a difference, and it's distressing and sad that in the current situation we have such enmity
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building up so quickly between president trump and president obama. >> with the latest accusation by the president, is this something that you think that the relationship with the former president can bounce back from? >> i think, anderson, it's going to create a permanent rift between the two. president obama, i don't think he's going to be taking it this public stage and fighting it out with president trump. but i can tell you this. i think a lot of the people around him, president obama, the alumni, so to speak, will have no reluctance to take it on. and by the way, president trump thinks it's the obama alumni who have been fomenting their resistance against him and responsible for a lot of the leaks. >> when you hear that accusation, the idea that there's a deep state, there's this permanent government, you know, sort of obama moles essentially, at various locations trying to slow things down, does that, i mean, there is kind of a permanent
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bureaucracy, is it possible? >> flare is a permanent bureaucracy, but there's no such thing as a deep state in the sense that that word is used to describe politics in pakistan or turkey, where there are strong men, military people waiting in the wings to move in, intervene, if the current regime doesn't do what they want. we have a bureaucracy which i think is fighting back against the trump people, whether it be, the state department, you know, when the huge cuts are coming in their budget. sure they're fighting. other parts of the government, they're resisting. that's not unusual in washington. i think it has become, let us say, more adversarial in this administration that i can remember in any other. >> yeah. david gergen, thanks very much. >> thank you, anderson. coming up, should the president's campaign slogan should have been we're going to build a wall and the coast guard and tsa are going to pay for is he it els
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the coast guard protects the maritime borders and tsa protects armts and the airplanes we fly on. important to point out, proposed cuts. we don't know yet what the final budget will look like but if they remain as the office of office and budget is proposing, they tell me it would create a strain on agencies and their critical missions. the trump administration could be making major cuts to the united states coast guard and tsa according to two congressional sources. the proposed cuts are intended to offset a major increase in military spending and help pay for trump's ramped up immigration enforcement. >> the immigration officers are finding the gang members, the drug dealers and the criminal aliens and throwing them the hell out of our country. >> reporter: but the coast guard plays a role in enforcing immigration laws. government statistics show in
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fiscal year 2016 alone, the coast guard intercepted more than 6,300 undocumented my grapts. steven flynn, a retired coast guard commander, says cuts the his former agency will hurt not help the president's national security and immigration agenda. >> just as the lesson we learned post-9/11 is you can't do it piecemeal but a comprehensive approach. >> reporter: among the duties, securing the waterways in florida when president trump visits. the proposal calls for a 14% cut from its $9 billion operational budget. that includes slashing 43 million from the maritime safety and security teams which board vessels trying to bring illegal drugs into the country. over the past five years, coast guard cutters and aircraft have removed more than 630 metric tns of pure uncut cocaine with a wholesale value of nearly $19 billion from the high seas.
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drugs have been a focus for president trump. >> and for drugs to pour in at a now unprecedented rate -- >> reporter: flynn warns cuts to the coast guard could impact national security. >> the terrorist is not a conventional armed forces, something the president knows and the coast guard is a front line agency for that. >> reporter: the tsa tasked with keeping terrorists and bombs off aircraft airplanes could see a reduction. the agency plagued by long lines and frustrated passengers in the past because it didn't have the funding it needed. former tsa official paul smank. >> that significant cut, how goodwill security be? this cannot be good in either side. >> reporter: well, the omb released a statement saying in part the budget blueprint will be released in mid-march and premature to comment and went on to say that the president and his cabinet are working
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and that's it for us. thanks for watching. time to hand things over to don lemon. i'll see you tomorrow night. "cnn tonight" starts right now. president trump's advisers in spin mode over the wiretapping accusations and the president himself in sales mode on the replacement for obamacare. this is "cnn tonight." i'm don lemon. president trump said he's proud to back the republican plan for replacing obamacare. is it doa, dead on arrival? will dismantling obamacare hurt president trump's voters? the president not backing down from the stunning wiretapping accusations against former president obama but also not offering the slightest bit of evidence. that's as republican intelligence chairman in the house and senate admit they've seen nothing to back the president's claims. let's get right to cnn's
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