i have no doubt we'll pass this. >> obamacare in a different form. >> major health care groups lining up in opposition to the gop's plan. >> make no mistake, the president is very proud of the product we have produced. >> trumpcare is a mess. >> let it be a disaster. we can kblaem that on the dems. >> the president asked congress to look at whether or not his campaign is able to take up that challenge. >> what we have right now is recusal with absolutely no basis in fact. >> there is no reason we have to think that the president is the target of any investigation. >> be careful what you wish for. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning. welcome to your "new day." it's thursday, march 9, 8:00 in the east. we have breaking news. hours ago, after an all-night debate, republicans declaring a victory on their first step in the health care battle. the house ways and means

committee, they passed it. those first steps are going towards appealing -- repealing obamacare. but the very long night on capitol hill turned into a long morning for the house energy and commerce committee. they're looking at a different part of the bill. 22 hours, still going. the vice chair asked them to please leave and he would even give them waffle house if they did so. >> they did bring in dunkin munchkins. meanwhile president trump trying to unite his party behind the plan making his pitch to skeptical conservatives. if this new bill fails, the president says he has a plan b. sources says he's prepared to let obamacare stay in place and if it implodes, blame it on the democrats. cnn has every development starting with suzanne malveaux live on capitol hill. >> reporter: it is high drama on the hill. he saw these two marathon debates taking place, these two

different committees, house ways and means after 18 hours approving of the legislation. still the energy and commerce committee on its 2nd hour of debated -- 22nd hour of debate here. introducing amendments as well as calling for trump's tax returns and debating the health of artificial tang, while republicans are desperately trying to fast track this legislation. as opposition grows to the gop plan to repeal and replace the affordable care act, president trump coming up with a backup plan. sources inside an oval office meeting with conservative and tea party groups say the president announced, if the plan fails, he'll allow obamacare to fail and let democrats take the blame. >> let it be a disaster, because we can blame that on the dems that are in our room, and we can blame that on the democrats and president obama, but that's not the fair thing to do for the people. >> reporter: the president

telling these skeptical right wing groups he's, quote, open to discussing some changes for the american health care act, like moving up the rollback of medicaid expansion to 2018 instead of 2020. the president also class tiesing them for their opposition according to sources. the president claiming they're, quote, helping the other side. conservatives opposing the bill backed by house speaker paul ryan argue the proposal doesn't go far enough in getting rid of obamacare. >> i believe when you look through it it's obamacare in a simple form. >> reporter: ryan claiming otherwise, pitching it to his own party wednesday. >> this is a conservative wish list. it repeals obamacare's taxes, it repeals obamacare's spending, medicaid expansion and the obamacare subsidies. this returns power from washington back to doctors and patients. >> reporter: but the backlash is also coming from the nagts's leading hospital and doctor groups. concerned about the more than 20

million americans currently enrolled in the system. the american medical association writing we cannot support the american health care act as drafted because of the expected decline in health insurance coverage. while all eyes are on the house, the key battle will take place in the senate among republicans. tom cotton releasing a flurry of tweegts this morning saying house health care bill can't pass senate without major changes to my friends and house. pause, start over, get it right, don't get it fast. gop shouldn't act like dems did in o-care. no excuse to release bill monday night, start voting wednesday with no budget estimate. what matters in long run is better, mosh affordable health care for americans, not house leaders' arbitrary legislative calendar. what makes this important is the white house can't afford to lose more than three votes on the senate side or the legislation

dies, alisyn. >> high stakes, suzanne, thanks for all of that. add vice president pence to the list of administration officials offering no evidence ofd president trump's claims that he was wiretapped by president obama during the campaign. mr. pence dodging the question when asked if he believes his boss. cnn's sarah murray is live in washington with the latest. >> reporter: good morning. it might be a simple way to clear this up if the white house would say what inspired the president to make these wiretapping allegations. they still aren't doing that. instead kicking it over to congress saying you guys should look into this. two senators say they're willing to do just that. >> there's no reason to believe that he is the target of any investigation. >> reporter: the white house attempting to clarify president trump's unfounded claim that former president obama ordered wire tapping of trump tower during last year's election, marking yet another day of distraction stemming from trump's tweets over the weekend. the tweet dealt with wiretaps,

and the other is an investigation. they are two separate issues. >> reporter: vice president mike pence dodging questions about his boss's wire tapping accusations. >> the president alleged that the former president committed a felony in wiretapping trump tower. yes or no. do you believe president obama did that? >> what i can say is the president and our administration are very confident that the congressional committees in the house and senate that are examining issues surrounding the last election, the run-up to the last election will do that in a thorough and equitable way. >> reporter: now trump's claim might be back firing, inspiring a bipartisan group of lawmakers to look for proof. >> be careful what you wish for. >> reporter: republican senator lindsey graham and democratic senator sheldon whitehouse penning a letter to the justice department and fbi asking the intelligence agencies for evidence writing, we would take any abuse of wiretapping authorities for political purposes very seriously.

we would be equally alarmed to learn that a court found enough evidence of criminal activity or contact with a foreign power to legally authorize a wiretap. >> the president has asked congress to look into whether or not his campaign was wiretapped by the obama administration. i will take up that challenge. >> reporter: meanwhile the investigation into russian meddling in the election continues. four senators taking their search directly to the cia to review raw intelligence. >> we've got even more questions now. we've got more information we've got to get access to. >> reporter: as the trump administration continues to forcefully deny any collusion between russian officials and their campaign. >> the president has made clear he has no interest in russia, and yet a lot of these stories that come out with respect to that are frankly fake. >> reporter: we know former president obama wasn't exactly thrilled about these wiretapping allegations and there have been conversations between president obama's former chief of staff,

denis mcdonough and president trump's chief of staff reince priebus. so far not aware of any conversations between president trump and former president obama. we'll see if this is a rift between two men that had a better relationship as many expected as president obama was leaving the white house. >> when you call a former president bad or sick, it's not a great starting point for conversation. joining us democratic congressman adam schiff, top democrat on the committee investigating the alleged hacking of the election. with your investigative hat on, i want you to explain what sean spicer said about this at a briefing. >> there is no reason that we have to think that the president is the target of any investigation whatsoever. the one question dealt with whether or not -- the tweet dealt with wiretaps during the thing, the other is an investigation. they are two separate issues, and there is no reason to believe that there is any type

of investigation with respect to the department of justice. >> that was a confused situation. he got handed a note during it. this has gotten very complex. you have the russian allegations. you have the president injected the wiretapping allegations which he could answer more quickly than you could, that's for sure. but he's chosen not to according to sean spicer. now you've decided to add that to your investigation. why? >> i think the way to interpret sean spicer's remarks is essentially we have no idea what the president was talking about, so we're going to give this to congress and please don't ask us about this. look, we've accepted that invitation from the president. we're going to van open hearing on march 20th where we're going to have the opportunity for director comey, director brennan, director clapper and others to respond quite directly, if the press reports are accurate that director comey wanted the justice department to speak out on this, he will have an opportunity during the

opening hearing. we have also, the chairman and i i, have made a similar request for documents to backup the claim. >> the pushback is why spend time on something that none of you believe is true? you've used the line be careful what you ask for. what do you believe this could yield? >> here is what i mean by that. i think what sean spicer and the president wanted was to take this spurious claim and try to bury it in a closed hearing in the intelligence committee. we're not going to allow that to happen. we're going to air this very publicly. if the president is going to make outlandish claims like this in the future, he needs to know he will be exposed and high ranking people within the u.s. government like the director of our intelligence agencies and the fbi will be forced to say the president wasn't telling the truth. if we don't confront him on this, you can expect he's going to make other equally false claims in the future, and this is not only hurting him but it's hurting the presidency. it's hurting our credibility

around the world, and this has got to come to an end. i think there are profound questions about whether this president is capable of growing with the job. >> okay. you're going to have it out there and it will be part of a broader investigation about what connections there were. the pushback that you guys are getting is, yes, you have proof that there were contacts, but contacts aren't that unusual. you don't know what they were about. we've heard leaks from the intelligence communities saying they have no proof of collusion. when will you know whether there's anything there between the administration of president donald j. trump and russian efforts to subvert the election? >> there's certain things we know with great certainty already. we know, and it was described earlier in the broadcast, as the alleged russian hacking. we know the russians hacked. we know the russians were responsible for the dumping of documents. we know the russians have used a variety of techniques in europe

the same way they have here, they've used native citizens, they've used blackmail, extortion. we want to find out what they've done in the united states to influence our elections. what we need to do is an expeditious but thorough and non-partisan investigation to find out are these contacts innocent, or are they part of collusion of u.s. persons in this russian campaign, and i think it should be in everyone's interest to get the truthful answers to those questions as quickly as we can. but i have to say this is difficult. this investigation obviously is well beyond our borders that involves getting evidence from a hostile government. we have to assess what did the intelligence community do? what leads are left to be investigated? right now, chris, as you know, we're having trouble getting answers from the fbi about what they have investigated, and we're going to need their full cooperation or this is going to be a lot harder and take a lot longer than any of us would

like. >> you said you want to interview the man behind the assembling of the dossier that wound up being briefed -- that wound up being the subject of a briefing to president trump and president obama, then president-elect trump. why? >> look, there have been public reports and i can't comment beyond the public reports, that this is an individual that has been found to be credible by the intelligence agencies. if that's accurate, i think we ought to talk with him. i think we ought to find out to the degree he's willing to share what his sources of information are so we can try to go to those sources and verify whether materials in the dossier he put together are accurate or not. we ought to do our due diligence. certainly i think what he has alleged in that report is very serious. some of it ought to be capable of cooperation. others will be very difficult given the hostile environment in moscow to try to prove or disprove things.

he may be a key figure. >> i know you're not going to tell me what the substance of it is, have you come across anything yet that makes this more than a fishing expedition? >> absolutely. let me say this. i think you can see from the public information already that one of the by products of all this has been the resignation or the firing of mike flynn, the fact that mike flynn lied to the vice president. the vice president in turn misled the american people about a sur ripity shows conversation with the russian ambassador. >> how do you know mike flynn lied to the vice president? i know that's what the white house says. but do you know that's what happened? >> i can't go into what we've been preefed on. but i do think this has reached the point of rightness where we need an independent council, not the current attorney general, to make a decision about what the facts are about something that may lead to a prosecution. >> that means you would suspect an underlying crime. if you're going to have an independent prosecutor, you need

a crime. what's the crime? >> well, the question is whether the false statements of mike flynn in any form were prosecutable. >> the fbi said they weren't going to charge him and they didn't think he was misleading, which is why i'm asking the other question. the fbi gave the white house such great cover to keep mike flynn. they said we heard the same story he says he told mike pence. we don't think he was misleading it. he might may have forgotten it. he didn't think the election was a big part of the conversation with the russian ambassador. he was innocent. we're not charging him. we don't think he was misleading. yet the white house chose to get rid of him. that's why i'm asking the question. >> it's a good question, chris. let me make a few observations. first, the fbi hasn't said anything publicly about this. there have been reports of what the fbi is saying privately, but we don't know and don't have a public record about what the fbi's position is, and second, it's not the fbi's position to

make a prosecutorial decision. that's a decision normally for the justice department. obviously we saw a big aberration with that last year when loretta lynch essentially said i'm going to defer to the fbi about the clinton case, but in the ordinary course of events it's the justice department that makes a prosecutorial decision and the fbi presents whatever facts to the department. here you have jeff sessions saying i'm recusing myself, but not from everything, but only from things pertaining to the campaign. the flynn conversations with the russian ambassador took place after the campaign. i don't think jeff sessions can make those decisions. i think an independent council ought to be reviewing these facts and determining whether anything in mike flynn's conduct should be prosecuted. i'd like somebody independent to make that judgment. i don't want to make that judgment. i don't want jeff sessions to make the judgment.

>> do you even have a guess how long it will take for you to get information that you can give to the american people to substantiate any of this? >> here is the challenge, chris, and i feel a real sense of urgency, i think we all do, but this is a very big, complicated investigation. after all it involves a russian hacking operation, the cyber evidence that goes into that, the dumping information, the use of cutouts, use of wikileaks, the use of its propaganda arm, all of the issues that i think most people are concerned with about collusion. my gop colleagues want to investigate the leaks, democrats also have a concern about leaks. we want to look at the u.s. government and fbi response. did they respond adequately when we new the russians were in our computers? this is not something to be done overnight. it can't be done overnight. and so i think people need to understand the magnitude of what we've taken on. this is not something we'll be able to come to next week and say, okay, we've reached a firm

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conservative leaders do not like the gop health care plan. president trump called those conservatives to the white house yesterday to try to get them on board. how did that go? joining us now is one of those conservative leaders, co-founder of the tea party patriots jenny beth martin. good morning, jenny beth. >> good morning. >> when you laid out at the white house your criticisms of the gop bill, what did president trump say? >> well, when i was at the white house meeting with the president, i talked about my concern that the obamacare law is not being fully repealed and that the bill we're seeing from the house of representatives is going to drive the cost of health insurance up even further. he addressed those concerns. there were others in the room who addressed other issues and more detailed policy aspects of the bill. he said they will go back and address some of our concerns in

what they're calling phase three. what we have now is phase one which is the reconciliation bill that the house of representatives is marking up right now. phase two is what health and human services secretary tom price will do through regulations. phase three is another bill we have yet to see that does not require -- that is not reconcilable and would require 60 votes in the senate to pass. >> okay. that's interesting. did you get the sense that he was trying to sell you? was he saying come on, conservatives, get on board? >> i think -- i'm sure that there was some of that going on, but i felt like more than anything he was listening to our concerns and is looking for a way to try to address some of those concerns. >> what was his tone? was he annoyed that you guys were expressing your criticisms? was he understanding? >> he did not seem annoyed at

all. he was listening. i didn't expect nick different than that. we all know that president trump is known to be a negotiator. when you're no negotiations, if you want to win people to your side, it's helpful to listen to what they have to say and try to meet them somewhere in the process. >> did he say to you at any point, look, you guys, you're only helping the other side? >> i don't remember those words being said. i know you reported that a few minutes ago, but i don't remember that being said. >> how big of a deal did you get the sense of this is for the president? >> this is a very big deal for the president. it's a very big deal for his voters as well, and for those of us who have been advocating to have more health care freedom in our country to repeal obamacare and make sure that the prices of health insurance don't continue to spiral or skyrocket upward, and right now the bill in the house of representatives is going to do that.

in fact, i would go so far as to say that the bill in the house of representatives, if it passes the way it is presented right now, the hard working taxpayers of this country will be forgotten once again. >> i know you say that you've gotten something like 3,000 e-mails from fellow tea party folks. what are they saying to you? >> i received 600 e-mails in less than 12 hours and over 3,000 e-mails in less than 48 hours about this bill. the vast majority of them, i would say 9-1, are people saying they don't like the bill the way it is. they're very concerned about it. people are reminding me that we've stood in the snow, in the rain, in the hot summer heat again and again and again to oppose obamacare, to work to get it repealed and stand for health care freedom. what we're seeing out of the house of representatives was not what we expected when we voted

for majorities in the house and senate who promised us they would repeal obamacare. >> if you repeal obamacare you get more freedom, but costs will definitely go up. >> if you repeal obamacare the way that the house is doing it right now, it's not full repeal. what will happen is the individual mandate does go away, but the mandates on insurance companies stay in place, and that means that they will be forced -- they will be required by law to take the people who are most at risk and insure them while at the same time they're going to lose part of their customer base because people will not have to buy the insurance, and as the prices go up, they'll make a calculated risk that is financially better for their families not to buy insurance. the ones who stay and voluntarily buy insurance and the ones who need it most, their prices are going to go up even further, and that's not what we need. >> very quickly, of all of these

angry e-mails you're getting about people who feel betrayed, this isn't why you voted for republicans and gave them the majority in congress, what will they do? do we expect more town halls like the heated ones we've seen? what if this bill continues to be fast tracked through congress? >> we'll see how the bill evolves and whether the white house is able to advocate for some of the things we want. next week tea party has a capitol hill day planned. i hope people who are listening join us at 1:00. we'll hear from some of the senators and congressmen. we're going to speak to our congressmen and senators and let them know what we think about this bill and talk to them directly. let's see if they actually listen to the american people. i hope that they do. i hope the house and the senate get this right. they've got one shot to do it and i hope they do it the right way. >> jenny beth martin, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us on "new day." >> thank you for having me.

>> chris. >> who is to blame for this difficult rollout of the republican house health care plan? we're going to get that in "the bottom line" next.

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so conservative leaders breaking the party line on the house health care proposal. who is to blame for the rollout? is there any blame to be had? let's get "the bottom line" with senior congressional correspondent, host of "examining politics" and cnn political analyst david drucker. is this botched, and if so why? >> i think it's botched marketing. i don't think it's a botched piece of legislation in the sense that republicans for the past year in the house were working on different ideas for health care reform. everybody was invited to be involved. a lot of people were involved and they all sort of knew what was coming. i think a lot figured who know is donald trump is going to win, who knows if we're ever going to get to do this. over the past couple of months, everybody was so busy trying to

figure out their new way and the new world order here in washington, they didn't pay close enough attention. however, chris, i will say this, as long as i've been covering congress these guys don't know how to sell anything. they get so caught up in process, in how they're going to move things through the house and senate and all the different rules in relation to that, they never seem to remember there's an outside game here, and what you want to do is bring people on the outside along so you have pressure on people on the inside to actually support the thing. that's where i think they really messed up. >> well, enter president trump. if there's one thing donald trump knows how to do is sell. he's highly persuasive. now comes the work he has to do of getting all these different factions somehow to coalesce. we've started to see the process. he called on conservative leaders yesterday to the white house. should he have been doing this weeks ago, or is this all going at pace? >> i think the white house could

have done a better job as well. i think they could have brought people in as this thing was being put to bed over the past couple of weeks, and they could have had conversations with people and said, hey, look, we'd like you to be on board. they should have, in other words, pre sold it. i think donald trump comes from the world of real estate. he knows what pre selling is about. they didn't do a good enough job of that. however, now we are where we are. this will be a test of trump's leadership and his ability to persuade in this setting. selling something in a government political setting where you're dealing -- the issue isn't just whether or not something should be done, it's how it should be done, and that's what politics is all about. notice what republicans have been saying on the hill. they eve been putting this in terms of whether or not republicans are prepared to keep their promises. what they're trying to do is basically say this is the bill. either you're going to repeal and replace obamacare the way you said you would or you're not. that's what the president is

trying to use to put pressure on people to do it. look, the president has taken ownership of this. as much as they may be soft peddling that part of it, the president is owning the bill. now we're going to see if he can deliver. >> i don't know. they've taken a hedge position on this. some people are saying it's ryancare, don't call it trumpcare. let me get your read on something else, this statement from sean spicer. >> there is no reason we have to think that the president is the target of any investigation whatsoever. the one question dealt with whether or not -- the tweet dealt with wiretaps during the thing. the other is an investigation. there are two separate issues. there's no reason to believe that there's any type of investigation with respect to the department of justice. >> that is a confusing statement. >> how am i supposed to translate that gobbledygook.

>> we helped spicer with an edit. there were other iterations in there. he got a note. >> first he said donald trump is the subject of a federal investigation. and then he was handed a note. >> my suggestion is, do you think this might have been a note? might this explain the answer he wound up giving afterwards? you think this might have been that note and that might have explained why he seemed to go in seven different directions? >> this is inevitably what happens when you have a president who doesn't consult with top aides before he decides to make an issue. if there's anything we know, it's that donald trump, the president any time after he sees something on television or gets something that bothers him will go to twitter and start pontificating. that's what he did. he didn't consult with anybody. his aides are left to clean up the mess. we beat up on them, how come you can't explain it?

they don't know what's going on. they didn't ask him to do this. this wasn't a grand strategy. that's how presidents have worked in the past. this is the downside of being completely free and clear and unrehearsed. i'll cut spicer a break here. they don't know what's going on. there's no proof of anything that the president said, but they're left trying to make it sound legitimate and that's a hard thing to do. >> yes, in the past you have meetings, strategy meetings before the president makes a statement to avoid things like that. then you also have communications meetings before you send sean spicer out. i'm not sure that's happening either which is why he's getting a spontaneous note in the middle where he has to clean up and do these verbal backbends to try to explain what he's trying to say. >> well, i think part of the problem is the president made a number of accusations that were not proven. on the one hand, i think what the president was trying to do

was get us all to talk about the possibility that the obama administration wasn't on the up and up. in that regard, he was successful. he spent all weekend talking about that. on the other hand, he potentially implicated himself as a subject of an investigation which would only happen if a fisa judge found it credible for a warrant to be granted for him to be monitored or people associated with him to be monitored. >> he set himself up to have multiple intelligence agencies to come in public hearing, in adam schiff gets his way and say this is not true. this defense of trump, he's a new yorker, you know how they are. that's bs. the idea that just because you're from new york that you'll say completely flying in one direction away from the facts. >> hold that thought till tomorrow. thanks david. >> hold your insult of me until tomorrow. vice president mike pence

was asked directly about president trump's tweets accusing former president obama of wire tapping him, how did the vice president respond? >> he is not from new york. >> yes, that's right.

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time now for the five things to know for your new day. house lawmakers debating the new gop health care bill i understand the wee morning hours. the house way z and means committee passed their part of the bill, the first step towards an obamacare repeal. vice president mike pence ducking a question about whether he believes president trump's claim that the obama administration wiretapped the phones at trump tower. remember, the president accused former president obama of a felony. the house and senate are examining the allegation. the number of undocumented immigrants caught at the southwest border crossings plummeted last month. customs and border protection data showed a 40% drop.

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a lot of comedians are people that are very introverted, very shy, very sensitive to humiliation, a little narcissistic, a little damaged. so the only way to combat it is to go to the one place where you are stripped bare. >> tonight on cnn's "the history of comedy" medians open up about

their own personal struggles. here to discuss tonight's episode, former talk show host dick cavett. great to see you. >> you're not so bad yourself. >> before we begin quickly, you're not supposed to do this, i want to commend this show and you two, alisyn and -- chris, is it? >> yes, i'll take it. >> -- on the tremendous job you're doing in the face of the media being criticized in the face of the -- despiting being the retched media. and we'll move on. >> we might as well go there. you've been firing out some pretty funny tweets about the political climate that you say we find ourselves in. let me read a couple for people. >> you've seen my tweets. >> oh, yeah. >> you said did i dream a protest sign? avoid crowds, visit a trump inauguration. >> you'll now be called

overrated, i want you to know that. >> here is another one. don't you assume they were smart enough to give our impulsive short-fused leader a slightly wrong nuclear code. >> people wrote in and said let's hope so. that's a serious thought i have. people are concerned about this. >> you're finding humor. you're mining all this for hu r humor. >> what can be funnier than a man standing in the rain saying it's great it's not raining on my inauguration. few few comedians have come up with anything that funny. >> darkness in comedy. just as sometimes you have that laugh or cry thing. that does play a role in comedy. it's not new for people to hear that somebody is depressed or that a comic has a dark side and that that somehow motivated the

humor. how do they go together? >> i don't know why. it's ironic. comedy means fun, laughter and happiness. the business is full of antidepressants and suicide. it's just the gods somehow give with one land -- you can finish the sentence. i've known it and seen it. it's so sad. sitting in a little club and a guy goes out, another comic, he kills them. he comes off and sits and has a couple of drinks and is depressed and has to go on again and push the boulder up the hill again. >> we've seen so many struggle with substance abuse obviously and struggle with dark places. it's hard not to think about robin williams. we have a moment -- >> yes. >> let's play the moment where he was on your show and we'll talk about him. >> toys all over the set. don't be afraid. come on, mr. camera, we're going

crazy. come on. whoa. mamma gave this so i could write my new book. an owed to fred silver man. take two, auto, props. let's go. >> vin naj robin williams. >> there's a hilarious segment on those shows. by the way, they're on youtube. where i add-lib. you can't do it off camera. robin would go mad in front of you and yet be controlled always. he would just kill you, and then he would be sad afterwards and say i don't know what it's all for. i've seen him go out -- i saw him come off once in a club on the village they're still applauding saying take another

bow. he was saying why can't i make myself that happy. >> so sad, tragic. >> is it timeless what we see in the cycle of great comics as they come and go? do things change over time? is funny something that winds up being manipulated by its era? >> i don't know what happens as time goes by, but so many comics do end up miserable. there's a prominent one now who is really going bonkers now. >> who is that? >> he thinks that obama is bugging his phone. >> keeps going back there. >> but seriously, folks. i've almost come up with an adage, if that's what this is, comedy is the refuge of the unloved child. i've seen so many cases of it. i can make an audience make, i can get rich, but my folks still don't give a damn about me. >> it's so heartbreaking. obviously they entertain all of us. we love them.

i still miss chris farley from saturd"saturday night live" and seem so funny and they often have substance abuse and a dark side. >> you're right. people who would convulse laughing and watching the great jonathan winters, one of the greatest comic gifts of all time. what a mental price he paid with depression, booze and sadness. it's as if the gods in the old greek sense, the gods envy those who climb too high and smite them low. am i being too dramatic for you? >> not at all. on that note, we've leave it there. dick cavett, thanks for having it. >> you use the word smite. you're over our intellectual. >> would smitten be better? >> that's how most people feel when they're next to alisyn. >> make sure to stun in for "the

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her out. the boys, of course, downplaying heroism. >> watch "the history of comedy." >> the right place at the right time. there's a reason everything happens. it feels like a god moment, you know what i mean? >> fact stranger fan thick shun. suzanne is home and healing. the kid is okay. the boys are wrong, they weren't just in the right place at the right time. >> they also super human strength. >> mothers who lift cars off their babies. it happens. the gods smile on us sometimes. >> time now for cnn "newsroom" with poppy harlow and john berman. >> dick cavett, our favorite "new day" anchor: let's get started. >> i'm john berman. >> i'm poppy harlow. high drama and high stakes in the wee hours overnight after hours and hours