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clearly they put this country under attack during the elections. it even goes back to the 90s. this has been a consistent pattern with the russians interfering in american elections in going after our computers. and it's great an indictment. we should keep doing it. >> amazing. a lot playing out this hour. thanks for being along for the ride. appreciate all you offered. "inside politics wi" with john g picks up right now. thanks, kate. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharing your day with us. another busy one in the nation's capital. the republican family feud over replacing obamacare is intensifying. house speaker paul ryan under fire from trump loyalists who say it's a mess of the speaker's making. the speaker reminding anyone that asks the president helped draft the bill and time for republicans to stop complaining
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and start governing. >> it's been seven years long. we got to make good on our promises. we got to make sure that we keep consensus so we pass this bill. i feel like we're in a good place but we want to listen to our members and make improvements to the bill so long as those improvements don't make the bill harder to pass. >> ever the optimist there. moments ago on capitol hill, remember those tweets from the president a week ago saturday saying he believed president obama wiretapped his phones at trump tower, both the republican chairman of the house committee and the ranking member moments ago saying there's no proof of that. >> evidence still remains the same that we don't have any evidence that took place. in fact, i don't believe just in the last week of time the people we talked to, i don't think there was an actual tap of trump tower. >> to date i've seen no evidence that supports the claim that
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president trump made that his predecessor wiretapped trump tower. we've seen no basis for that whatsoever. >> no basis for in a whatsoever. with us to share reporting and insight, ashley parker of "the washington post," laura of "wall street journal," michael of "the new york times" and jackie of "the daily beast." let's start with what we heard last hour. significant. the significant chairman, this is not democrats saying there's no evidence. they said they've gone to the intelligence community, to the fbi, to the cia, to the director of national intelligence and spent last week working on this. what is the significance that they publicly stand there and say there's absolutely no evidence the president of the united states was telling the truth when he sent a series of tweets accusing his predecessor of nixonian behavior? >> keep in mind chairman nunez was one of the people that was a trump supporter, involved in the transition and one of the people the white house put out to knock down other stories they didn't
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like about russia so for him to come out and say if you take these tweets sort of literally or frankly even seriously, the president is wrong is the last line of defense on the hill falling down for the white house. >> i mean, absolutely. i think what everybody wants to hear is to hear it directly from the justice department, the fbi. and what both democratic and republican lawmakers said today is that we are likely to hear more of that on the hearing on monday when the fbi director is expected to testify. the question is how much detail will we get in public session and they talked a little bit about the likelihood that a lot of that will end up in closed session. that's going to be the question for transparency is how much of that can happen in front of the cameras. >> perhaps this is why we were debating about quotation marks the other day about what wiretap meant based on what sean spicer was saying. maybe that's where they're backtracking because they realize that they can't back up
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what the president tweeted so they need to make it about something else in order to keep his credibility intact. frankly, it's going to be a tough turn for them. >> this is really the peril of having a president -- refreshing part is he thinks what he says on twitter. it's unfiltered. there's a reason why past white houses have seen a value in filter to stop the president from doing something he may regret later. this thought came to him early one morning a week and a half ago and now it has consequences. it continues to spiral. you can't just say something like this and expect it's just going to disappear. >> just yesterday at the briefing sean spicer was saying believe me there's something there. the vice president of the united states did an interview with fox news in which he said there's something there. the president put his team in a bad spot including the nation's chief law enforcement officer jeff sessions, the general attorney, who was asked a question. you are attorney general. you have access to this information. have you told the president
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there is any evidence, sir, what all that the president was wiretapped? >> did you have a chance to brief the president on the investigation related to the campaign or did you give any reason to believe that he was wiretapped? >> look, no. >> he's the attorney general of the united states. he's incredibly loyal to this president. as a senator, one of the first to sign onto the trump campaign. look, the answer is no. is there any sanction for the president of the united states for doing this or just public embarrassment? >> that's the question. i don't know that there's a legal sanction. the question is does this catch up with him at some point or do people say -- ultimately it's voters and members of congress who decide whether this is something that bothers them or not. he's putting his own people in a terrible position including jeff sessions and sean spicer who are forced to answer these questions and then the question is at some point do poem who like him and support him -- obviously people
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who don't like him say it's more of the same. what about people that do like him? does this affect them at all? >> the great irony here is obviously president doesn't want to be proven to have been misleading or lying or saying something that was wrong, which looks like where we're headed. butt on the other hand, if he were proven to be right, that couldn't be good either. that would suggest that somewhere in the federal government they found reason to tap his phones and tap trump tower, which would lead in a direction he doesn't want this to lead either. >> to that point, the republican chairman devin nunez who said there's no evidence the president was wiretapped, he did go on saying depends on whether you take the tweet literally. listen to this answer. he's not done asking questions. he said the president was not wiretapped and convinced that didn't happen but to your point about the air quotes on wiretap, is the white house retreating to say the president meant something else. let's listen to the chairman. >> so now you have to decide as i mentioned to you last week are
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you going to take the tweets literally and if you are, then clearly the president was wrong. if you're not going to take the tweets literally and if there's a concern that the president has about other people, other surveillance activities looking at him or his associates, either appropriately or inappropriately, we want to find that out. >> two very significant things there. one, the republican chairman of the committee, a longtime trump defender, saying clearly the president is wrong to what he directly said in those tweets. the committee sent a letter to the intelligence community saying they want information about other people close to trump who may have been caught up in intercepts. we know michael flynn who had to resign was caught up because he was in a phone conversation, a series of phone conversations, with the russian ambassador to the united states who is rout e routinely monitoring. they want to know when we heard about other trump associates who had contact with the russian ambassador during the campaign, were they caught up and the
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committee wants to know if they were caught up, how were they caught up and was it done legally? this part of the drama is not over. >> keep in mind back to mike's point that even if it turns out that through this broader lens the president is correct that he or other people in his administration were wiretapped because they were listening -- the government was listening in on a foreign agent, this isn't great for the white house. they forgot the russians they talked to and met with saying we weren't eavesdropping on you but someone we found troubling. a russian foreign agent that you were chatting away with. that's not a great talking point. >> that's the irony. if we dig ourselves out from underneath this question about what the president tweeted and him being wiretapped which is sort of got us all in a stir, you know, at the base of the investigation about what the trump campaign's relationship with the russians and what's underneath that so now if we take mike's point, let's say he wasn't wiretapped but someone else was.
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why? why? if you're going to wiretap an american citizen, it doesn't matter whether it's a presidential candidate or not. you have to have evidence and reason to do that. so what's behind that? >> to your earlier point, this is why usually presidents don't have unfettered access to twitter to this communication because there are -- it redirects everyone back to trump administration and russia and they don't want to be talking about that. nine times out of ten if they talk about the relationship with russia, they're losing. >> we should note the fbi director james comey is going to capitol hill to brief the senate judiciary committee which is complaining this they don't have enough information. this is a private briefing. everybody sit tight. amid all this in the political sphere, the justice department charging two russian spies and two other people in the 2014 hack of yahoo! e-mail accounts. fascinating case. jessica schneider joins me with that. let's start with headlines. who is charged and with what? >> this is a criminal indictment affecting four people and the
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notable two are russian officials. they are fsb officials. that's the russian intelligence agency. those two have been indicted. first time the u.s. government has ever indicted russian officials. so obviously that the big headline. they are also being indicted with two other alleged criminal hackers and the scheme the government says went like this. the two fsb officials directed these two hackers to go into yahoo! and google accounts and they did it all to get account information and to get personal information like credit card numbers, gift card numbers and then use that to line their pockets. the government saying this affected 500 million yahoo! users. all of this a scheme that dated from 2014 to 2016 and the acting assistant attorney general talked about how this scheme unfolded. >> they targeted accounts of russian and u.s. government officials including
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cybersecurity, diplomatic and military personnel. they also targeted russian journalists, numerous employees of other providers whose networks the conspirators sought to exploit and financial services. >> all of this unfolding as these investigations into russian m russian meddling into the election occurs. the acting attorney general saying these two indictments accusing the two russian officials of paying and directing these hackers, they say right now there's indicated no connection to the hacks of the dnc computers. they say right now that's a separate issue. all of this swirling and all of it tying back to russia. >> jessica, you say no connection. what in this case are there any clues, hints, about russian spycraft and how they go about their business whether the government or private sector has
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good defenses about it? >> it's the rallying cry of fbi director james comey over the past few months and few years. is the u.s. equipped to handle these types of cyber intrusions and the fact that cybersecurity should be beefed up in this country because this is yet another example as to the russian government looking to hack into systems whether they are personal or government right here in the united states so the question again looming is the u.s. prepared to deal with this? we saw in this case 500 million yahoo! users affected by this. information stolen. all of this leading to director comey's rallying cry and plea that the u.s. should be beefing up its cybersecurity. maybe it's not cutting it just yet. john? >> jessica schneider, thanks very much. up next, president trump back in his element today out on the road. how will he try to sell that health care plan? we'll see.
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president trump is on the road today in the air as we speak headed to an official event in detroit and evening rally in nashville paid for by his campaign organization. one thing to watch for as the president travels, how direct is he about the health care debate. congress leaders republicans want his help winning over skeptical lawmakers meaning they want him to be more specific than this. this is last month just before the house leadership released its proposal. >> it will be repealed and replaced. and for those people, the people that are put into rooms where republicans are talking about the plan and it wouldn't matter what they say, for those people just so you understand our plan will be much better health care
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at a much lower cost. okay. nothing to complain about. >> now, some of the details of what the president has promised on the campaign trail are at odds with what's in the republican bill. let's talk first about the president as salesman. speaker ryan, leader mcconnell when this gets to the senate, they need his help. they need him saying i'm the president. i need this. you have to do it for me. will he be that specific? will he be that -- what's the right word -- arm twisting. >> we know the president is a wonderful salesman. one thing telling to watch sean spicer and other aides when they've been asked is this plan trumpcare, is it the president's health care plan, they sort of refuse to say yes. keep in mind this is a man whose name and branding is on steaks and huge golden buildings so the idea he doesn't want to put it on this health care plan that he worked hand in glove for is a telling detail of how involved we may see him. >> let's listen to sean spicer.
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donald trump likes his name in big print. maybe he understands the political history of obamacare. what's the president's term for it? president obama late in his term embraced that. republicans coined that. why won't the president call it trumpcare? >> i don't think the obama administration didn't label it obamaca obamacare. they called it aca. this is the american health care act. the president is proud of it. this is a big that's not his. it's a joint effort we worked with the house and senate on. he's proud of it. he's proud of the impact that it's going to have on american patients. so i don't think this is about labels and names. this is about getting a job done. >> here's the thing. >> please don't ask me that question again. >> remember, it took president
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obama a while to own the obamacare name. right now it seems like -- they know that at the white house. and so it seems like trump right now is worried that this is going to be more like trump university than some of the trump golf courses. >> if you look back to 2009 when president obama was trying to pass aca, it wasn't called obamacare at that moment. he was all in on it. those deals to bring interest groups along were hatched at the white house. this is something that he was sbintimately involved in. so it took a while for him. finally in the 2012 campaign, he said obamacare. go ahead and say it. >> the president had to quiet democratic criticism that it wasn't liberal enough and single payer. president obama was all in. trump endorsed the republican bill but mixed signals about when he's willing and able to negotiate about it.
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if he doesn't make his bill given the family feud, will they pass it? >> i think it may not pass regardless as it stands now. there's a lot of opposition from all sides. the thing that's striking, laura and i were both at the town hall, the rallies that president obama held in 2009 and 2010 and went on the road all the time and the difference is that it was detailed. there was one health care answer that we mocked the former president for which went on for 18 minutes literally without stopping to a person who asked him about health care. this was obama doing it over and over and over again. i think there's unlikely ever to be anything like that from this president. that's not how he operates. he wants to be more careful. >> he owns it either way. >> absolutely. >> but another big thing to keep in mind the difference here and this is one of the reasons this health care plan is a big challenge to get past.
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president obama ran for office on a plan very similar to what aca became. not only that but so did hillary clinton and john edwards back in 2008. not only that, the chairman of the senate finance committee at the time had white paper very similar. the democratic party as a whole had coalesced around the basic ideas that underlined the law. there was a lot of consensus over many, many years. hard fought going back to the clintons. they had come around to the basic idea. when it came time to legislate, they were more or less on the same page. trump didn't run on a particular health care plan. paul ryan had some ideas. nobody was really paying attention. no one thought they would have a chance to do this. >> they coalesced around repeal. >> they are more in a situation similar to 1993. >> what does the president do? he's going to be in michigan and tennessee. michigan event is supposed to be about the economy, auto emissions and the like. what does he do when democrats are trying to tell in two states and across the country but two
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states trump won. democrats, elizabeth warren, making the case. this president told you he would fix health care for you instead he's cutting a deal to cut taxes for rich people and help the insurance companies. >> so who does president trump fight for? candidate trump said he would fight for working people but talk is cheap. the real question now is look at their actions and what president trump is doing once again is fighting for millionaires and billionaires and not for working people. trump s trumpcare is one more way to get rich and powerful more rich and powerful and kick dirt in the face of working people. >> if you didn't notice, democrats have named it. but does he deal with that on the road that democrats are trying to stir up that he said one thing in the campaign but this isn't your kind of a bill? >> if history is any indication and with president trump it often is, he doesn't get in the
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weeds and sticks to the top line about how big and beautiful and wonderful his plan is going to be not dissimilar when he went to west virginia promising to bring coal mining jobs back without explaining how he would do it. while everyone coalesced around repeal, president trump doesn't have a vision for the plan and what he said is out of line for republicans. he believes in health care for all americans and won't touch entitlements. >> everybody sit tight. up next, more health care debate including some trump loyalists who say this is speaker ryan's problem and speaker ryan needs to go. (vo) what if this didn't have to happen? i didn't see it. (vo) what if we could go back? what if our car... could stop itself? in iihs front-end crash prevention testing,
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economic event. moves to nashville, tennessee, for a political event tonight. we'll keep an eye on him as he makes it through the day. great to watch majestic air force one land. house members are complaining about the health care plan. so are moderate house republicans and then if the house can pass the measure, and that's an if, there's a challenge of navigating the tiny republican majority over in the senate. >> we're doing too much too quick. slow down. get it right. >> senator graham had his coffee this morning. you see that there. the debate is so messy the blame game is in full swing with many trump loyalist turning on speaker paul ryan if they were with him to begin with and some calling for ryan to step aside. 60 days in, folks. listen closely as speaker makes clear his aren't the only fingerprints on this
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legislation. >> we wrote this bill with our friends in the white house and senate? >> which friends? >> the trump white house. the health care people. the point i'm saying, we are all on the same page absolutely with the president. the president is bringing members of our caucus down there saying we need you to support this. they're making phone calls to remember saying this is the right way to go. this is what we want to do. >> he doesn't want to be called trump care. they want it to be called ryan care. >> we call it the american health care act. >> we talked about this in the last block. this is remarkable. this is remarkable. you are led into a trap by speaker ryan.
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it was part of the president's victory and idea that knives are out, it's washington. wow. >> who better to understand the political toll that can be extracted on health care if it screws up than the people who extracted that toll? the republican party managed to take obamacare and hang it around the democrats for midterm elections and help donald trump get elected. they know the power of this issue. they now how it can sink. >> what if they sink the current ship? the house republican plan? what he says is i tried to find the sweet spot and make this work and we'll amend it in the senate and come back. if we nitpick this every day, it
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will collapse. he says this about speaker ryan. trump figures quickly and he's figuring it out. unfortunately the ryan republican plan doesn't capture his world view. so, again, going after the speaker, let me pause the question this way. if they crafted a bill that kept the president's campaign promises, wouldn't it be a lot more expensive than the ryan bill? the president was not a republican including coverage for anyone that wants it? >> it would be more like existing law. he would just -- trump picked up a lot of pieces of the existing law and said i like that. i don't think that candidate trump ever had a plan or way to make this work. what republicans are finding now is truth of the matter about health care which is this is not easy. they never tried it before.
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democratic party has for decades wanted all americans to have health insurance. that was one of their purposes. they tried different things and had debate inside the party over how to do. this is not for most republicans what gets them to run for office. this is not the reason they get up in the morning. now they face a situation where if they want to repeal a law they don't like, they have to replace it with something else. they don't have vision for doing that. the big problem is that anything they do to move this bill toward conservatives, they're in a box. >> it's a hard thing to take entitlements away. >> i'm old enough to be in this town long enough where house passes something, goes to senate, they modify it. it comes back and they figure out a middle since the clinton days, house democrats voted on something and went to the senate and disappeared and that wovote
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was used against them in the campaign. they want to pass the bill and then legislation. house republicans say we don't want to vote for something that's been changed. you want to give tax cuts to billionaires. one of the few moderate republicans whose district is at play. it's hard to find competitive house districts. he's from new jersey. i don't want to vote on a bill that has no chance of passing in the senate. cbo score, congressional budget office, modified the dynamics meaning you have a report that says if you pass republican house plan as is, you have 52 million people without health insurance a decade from now double from what you would have if you left obamacare in place. do they need to negotiate the plan and pass it? >> in theory they need to negotiate the plan and sort of make sure that they are both on the same page. if you look at speaker ryan's
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calculation, at this point he is hoping to get to 218 votes and get it out of the house and say this is no longer my problem. you mention deal making. there's two ramifications if they don't get this done. they wouldn't have kept the promise. the other is that trump sort of existence is being a deal maker. if he's unable to cut a deal -- there are moderates and conservatives and street repeal people. if he can't make this deal, it kind of undercuts the whole notion of what he ran on and how he would deal with china or russia. >> they sent the vice president to kentucky this past weekend because one of their problems is the junior senator from kentucky rand paul. mike pence went there and said we need to pass this bill. we have to govern. this is important we get together on this. as you can hear from rand paul right now, worked brilliantly. >> i think that after six years we ought to fix it and not put a band-aid on it.
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i think ryan's plan is a band-aid with insurance company bailouts and doesn't fix the system. in fact, i predict if ryan's plan passes as is, insurance rates will skyrocket. the individual market will still be screwed up and guess what? the insurance companies will still get rich so nothing will change. >> well, that went well. >> not at all worried about it. >> how do you -- part of this is the benefits of winning. there are more republicans because they won so many elections so there are more at the table. it's a big thanksgiving dinner. more people you invite, more wine you need. but part of this is a benefit to the republican party to have ideas. their first big test they need to get something done. rand paul is nowhere near convinced to do that and he's not alone. >> to freeze rand paul, you lose other people. if you dial back when medicaid expansion ends, you're going to lose those moderates. you're going to use republicans
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from medicaid expansion states. you would think someone that's a great deal maker could make something happen but he's negotiating without paul ryan in some of these cases. he's offering the freedom caucus saying that we can talk about this and some of their ideas where ryan says this is the bill. this is what we're going through. there's a lot of conversations going on. >> and remember these are not people that are experienced in this process with former presidents you've had even with obama, he surrounded himself with people who had been deeply involved in the art of negotiation on capitol hill. rahm emanuel with a his chief of staff. these are not people with that kind of experience. it looks like they badly misjudged the questions of how well they were going to be able to sort of rally the republican party behind trump. >> free market conservatives thinks this is not the government's business and they should be out of this business and therefore take the president's campaign promises where you can keep the most popular parts of obamacare which
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happen to be the most pensiexpe parts of obamacare. >> i think that we see all sorts of reasons we haven't talked about, interest groups and hospitals and health care groups who are universally opposed to this. a lot of problems with this bill. i think at the end of the day the question is if it is on the verge of collapse and they say to the party, okay, here are your choices, you vote for this and this is what ryan is trying to say, or we keep what we have. then will people decide, you know what? i can't live with that? we'll see. >> more questions than answers at the moment. if you want to hear the answers to some of those questions from the house speaker, he'll be a guest on "the lead with jake tapper." interesting conversation. you can bet on that. up next, chief strategist says he wants to deconstruct the administrative state so how deep will the cuts run in president trump's first budget? for unlimited data... other gue t-mobile one save you hundreds a year. right now get two lines of data for $100 dollars.
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live pictures there. that's air force one on the ground in detroit. the president there for an economic event. we're told he may ease admission standards on the automobile industry. we're looking forward to that announcement. we'll keep that picture so you can watch the president deplaning in detroit. the president's administration releases its first budget. the white house is promising a conservative blueprint that proposes deep cuts across the federal government. here's how the president's budget director lays it out. >> the president ran clearly on priorities. the priorities are spending money at home on national defense, on border control, on immigration and in order to prioritize those spendings without adding to that large deficit, money has to come from
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some place. >> the money has to come from some place. and the president is on the record from the campaign saying i'm not going to touch medicare and social security so as they try to get the money from some place, as he gives more to the pentagon, more to the department of homeland security for immigration and homeland security issues, we're told the epa, the education department, and other federal agencies are going to have a hard time. state department. going to see funding cut. you see the president getting off the plane there in detroit. we'll keep this picture up and watch the president deplane as we have the conversation. it's important as you watch the president, your budget is your priority. your budget is your philosophy of government. your first budget lays down a marker in this town, which is still getting to know this president. can he sell that? he does have republicans in both the house and senate but there are a lot of moderate republicans and republicans who have pet projects on where you live who say you can't do that. >> sure. it's funny. even agencies that are very popular targets, there's things that even republicans who don't
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like these agencies like that the agencies do even if they wouldn't publicly admit it. like you mention, pet projects. that's one tough sell certainly. the other thing is this budget from what we hear is promising historic contraction of the federal workforce. i know president trump promised to drain the swamp. these are federal workers. there are real people who live in washington, d.c. or virginia and work in the government and they're going to be hard hit. i don't think that will be popular. >> two things to keep in mind. one is one of the president's big promises on the campaign trail was not only to reduce and eliminate the deficit but entire debt of the united states in eight years. this proposal does nothing to even begin that process because just as he's cutting, he's increasing on the other side, right? he's cutting domestic problems to increase defense. that's one point. the second point is keep in mind that while it is a blueprint and tells you something about his priorities, this thing like most
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president's first budgets is dead on arrival. it will go to congress and ripped to shreds and other people's priorities on capitol hill will put back in. some will survive. some won't. >> i agree with you completely. the president sends it up and you have 535 editors on capitol hill. if you're paul ryan, he has a blueprint. you have the tea party guys who are elected in 2010 and 2014. they came here to shrink this town. and if you can't really bend the deficit arc unless you deal with social security and medicare and this president said in the campaign, i'm not touching them. we're not spending it. so when he -- if it is declared dead on arrival, are they going to try to go deeper than the president on the republican side or just going to move his math around? >> there are a lot of cooks. there are a lot of cooks in this process. that's not something donald trump is used to. he is the ceo of a large company who is used to being the final word. that's not the case right now.
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so we'll have to see how he deals with this. it will be a lot of outreach. he is having this bowling event with the freedom caucus. bowling and pizza. things like that will have to happen on the regular if the president does want to get what he wants and wants to negotiate around the areas that you're talking about which conservatives likely want to cut deeper. >> keep in mind, there also is moderate republicans and democrats in the senate who matter on this. you need 60 votes in the senate to pass spending bills. so they're going to weigh in too. i don't think there's the slashing of the state department and epa and even if the department of homeland security which is seeing a big increase for things like border security, they are cutting funding for tsa. will there be members that want to cut tsa funding and next time there's god forbid something that happens at an airport and fingers get pointed? this will be tougher when you get into the actual reality of what these mean. you can say 30% cut to epa.
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what does that actually mean? these members know what it means because they worked with the budget year in and year out. i do think that this is going to face a much tougher challenge than it would appear today or tomorrow when we see this budget. >> we see the question of the president on the road. how much does he need his voters out there to help him with the nitty-gritty of his battles back here? >> i think donald trump voters are his valuable asset and most valuable tool. you have seen frenzied rallies. he can get them excited. as we know the idiom of a speaker is know your district. if people in a members district love what the president is doing and told to support this, they start calling the offices, that will matter to these members especially in house districts. >> can i offer one thing on that? i agree about donald trump's supporters and voters but president obama learned this lesson too. often times you have an amazing political network that gets you elected and it's hard to
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translate that into governing support. people who are out there knocking on doors saying we want you to give support to the president for his debt ceiling increase. they don't know how to translate into support. donald trump may find out. >> it's a big test. this event tonight is paid for by his campaign. i think it's smart of them. they try to understand they lost popular vote and won the election and try to keep their campaign organization up and running lean and mean. we'll see how it goes. >> our reporters share how the white house is trying to wine and dine the health care bill into law. but kind is honest. this bar is made with cranberries and almonds. so, guess what? we call it cranberry almond. give kind a try.
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>> i'm following the mike pence term offensive. he's on the hill meeting privately. he's reserved one night a week where he has lawmakers to his residence for sort of private dinners where he does more of the salesmanship. it's not the trump rallies but it's over a meal. arm twisting. trying to get these legislative itiatives through. >> nice house up there on mass avenue. >> president trump's revised travel ban takes effect at midnight tonight unless a court stops it. there are two challenges pending including one in maryland where arguments were heard this morning over the ban and a question on whether there will be a temporary hold on it or
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not. does this amount to religious discrimination based on things president trump said when he was a candidate? does that matter he called for a muslim ban then even though he says now it's nothing like that. we'll have to see what the court says. >> we'll watch those later today i bet we'll talk about it here tomorrow. >> we talked about the rally in nashville tonight. it's worth paying attention to the fact he's doing another one in kentucky on monday. hasn't been formally announced. it's on his campaign website. i think, you know, the key thing to watch here is the ways in which he merges a political style that we're all used to attacking media, fake news and all that with the more substantive questions that we talked about on the budget and on health care and those two things are going to get mixed up in the sort of boisterous fund that he has at these rallies. >> speaking of health care, the kaiser health tracking poll has numbers out today that are
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interesting. one that popped out to me was the number of people who support nonabortion services being funded by medicaid for planned parenthood. 75% of those polled said they believe that those services for primarily low-income people should be kept intact. it's not just democrats. it went across all of the groups that were polled. men, women, republicans, independents want this particular piece to stay funded. >> one of the many fights as we go forward on details. i'll close with this. political organization loyal to house speaker paul ryan is airing a new round of tv ads aimed at shoring up house republicans who back the leadership's health care bill. the new american action network ad by those relatively modest about 1$1.5 million that there isn't more support for the plan is quite telling. conservative groups that spend money on tv ads to support republican initiatives oppose or at best lukewarm to the current republican health care plan and
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groups supportive including the business community not ready to commit to any serious money right now. their hesitation? a lack of faith in a trump white house political operation they simply don't trust and don't see as up to speed as the administration hits the 60-day mark. watch for that. need tv ads to sell this one. thanks for joining us on "inside politics." the lead with jake tapper has paul ryan and a big town hall with health and human secretary. wolf blitzer in the chair after a quick break. ♪ why do so many businesses rely on the u.s. postal service? because when they ship with us, their business becomes our business. ♪ that's why we make more e-commerce deliveries to homes
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it's 1:00 p.m. in new york. 8:00 p.m. in moscow. president trump arrives in michigan but much of the attention today is still on his unsubstantiated allegations that president obama ordered the wiretapping of trump tower. the president landed at detroit metropolitan airport within the past hour. he tours a vehicle testing facility this hour and gives a speech next hour. his trip comes as the investigation into russia's mettme mediterrane meddling into the election is heating up. a news conference held just a little while ago. republican and democrat said they see nothing to support president trump's wiretap allegations against the former president barack obama. >> i don't believe in the last week of time that people we talked to, i don't think there was an actual tap of trump tower. >> i
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