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now, we also know -- and remember, this is also happening in the context of a highly difficult political debate over brexit. the scottish parliament has been talking about its desire for independence. it has suspended that debate out of respect and concern for what's happening in the united kingdom here in london. >> christiane, standby. the latest information that we're getting, at least one person dead, ten people injured. but there is breaking news we're following right now. >> let's get an update on all of the breaking news emerging from what is now considered to be a terror incident in the uk. one woman has died and a number of people have been hurt. at least ten, we are now told, including some with what is described as described as catastrophic injuries when a car plowed into
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them on the westminster bridge. here is how one eyewitness described the incident. >> i walked past about nine injuries but somebody was not conscious who regained consciousness and was okay. this is a bit -- i'm in shock, to be honest. i wasn't really expecting that this afternoon. >> reporter: so you were -- >> i was on the ward and our doctor offices is there and they said what's wrong and told me what happened and i went out and looked and all of us in the office were like -- we need to do something. so we all just went out and helped, got blankets and others were with me and helped --
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>> you prepare for those things but -- >> not for that. yes, we train for these events, like emergency -- basic life support if you have to do that. how the triage people who need attention, you know, first. >> most had head injuries that you saw? >> i didn't -- so i got stuck with that one because they needed help at that time. i know there were other doctors going. >> colleen? >> yes. >> colleen anderson, thank you. >> police were called to the area around 2:40 p.m. local time in london after witnesses reported hearing gunshots about 2:20 ago. we're told a police officer was stabbed inside the parliament gates. the assailant was then shot. we don't know the condition of the assailant. the british prime minister theresa may has been evacuated from parliament.
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the mayor issued this statement. "there has been a serious incident near to parliament square this afternoon, which is being treated as a terrorist attack until the police know otherwise." the mayor added, "i have spoken with the acting commissioner, the police services dealing with the incident and an urgent investigation is under way. my thoughts are with those affected and their families. i would like to express my thanks to the police and emergency services who worked so hard to keep us safe and showed tremendous bravery in exceptionally difficult circumstances." the u.s. embassy in london released the following statement "the u.s. embassy in london informs u.s. citizens that there has been a security incident on westminster bridge near parliament. maintain security awareness. we strongly encourage u.s. citizens in the united kingdom to directly contact concerned family members in the united states to advise them of your
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safety." i want to bring in our international diplomatic editor nic robertson who is in front of parliament right now. what details do you have, nic? >> well, wolf, i just stepped out of the way and what you're going to see there is the gate that the assailant used to run into new palace yard there. that's where the area where the police were able to tackle him and that's the area where the emergency services when they arrived on the scene were treating both the policeman and the attacker. as you can see now, that area is still surrounded by police vehicles, by several ambulances. i can still see off to the side there the number of police officers still at that gate. that is where the attacker ran, we understand, after he had
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rammed his car into the wall. the wall, if you're looking at that image right now, the wall that he rammed this vehicle into would be about 50 yards to the left and just around the corner and that would put you onto westminster bridge. so he ran down from where he rammed the vehicle into the wall, around the corner and in through that gate. as he went in through that gate, that is where we understand he was apprehended. the details precisely of how he got into the altercation with the police officer stabbed him, we understand, precisely what happened beyond that, how long before the shots were fired and taking the assailant down is not clear. but that is part of the investigation. as we say, as we have been saying, all those 300 or so members of parliament inside the building initially forced to take cover in the building and
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held for their safety. not allowed to leave the building. they will be allowed to leave in groups of about 50. also, we understand they will be questioned -- likely questioned by the police for whatever information they can help with. the police appealing to the public for images that they may have secured on the scene at the time. twitter pictures, anything on social media, the police asking the public to use discretion about photographs that they might have taken of some of the injured people on the scene but the police appealing for any additional information, pictures, witnesses. that can help them quickly get a strong and clear picture of precisely what took place, wolf. >> i know they have incredibly large numbers of cc-tv, closed circuit tv video cameras all over that area of london. i assume that authorities are going through that video very, very carefully right now, every
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few feet or meters they have closed circuit tv in that part of london. i want to show our viewers dramatic video, people fleeing. you're going to hear the gunshots. [ gunfire ] let me bring in our cnn international anchor max foster outside scotland yard. we just heard that statement, the commander issuing a statement. update our viewers on what we know right now, max. >> reporter: a full terror investigation across london. they are looking at various incidents or different lines of
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investigations. and some reports of someone in the river but don't want to give away too much because it's a live investigation. so this is ongoing it's very worrying for people in london. this very tight area around parliament is on lockdown. certainly a huge worry and huge investigation and an interesting response from the police as well. they are working very closely with european authorities and erring on the side of the investigation, they've had attacks in germany, france. they have to act quickly in the early stages of an investigation and we saw anti-terror police running into parliament very quickly after this incident happened, which is interesting.
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normally they hold back from calling it terror too soon. >> the lockdown seems to be in place. we're approaching 2 1/2 hours since the incident started. >> reporter: okay. max, let me get the question back to you. the lockdown still seems to be in place, right? >> reporter: it is. we got through the cordoned so it's been lifted to a certain extent, journalists allowed in. this is one of the setups that they created in times of these crises. they didn't expect this to happen quite so close to them, of course. we've been allowed this far. we know that there's a live investigation and police are
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investigating different parts of london. at the moment, they've locked down this area while forensics comes in and they consider what happens here. they've got to clear the air as well from that terrible incident which happened on the bridge over there. the area is in lockdown. parliament is moving around slightly more inside but it's still a huge degree of concern here. >> i'm sure there is and they want to make sure that they completely, completely resolve this situation before they let up on the lockdown. phil black is joining me now. what do you see, phil? >> reporter: behind me, wolf, it's a fairly eerie sight. it runs from the houses of parliament past all of the key departments, the treasury, foreign office, ministry of defense. you can see it's eerily quiet.
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a couple of hours ago, it was its usual bustling self. hundreds if not thousands of people on the streets. these are the people that you would normally find within the government district on any working day. these are the people that are caught up in the middle of this incident as it unfolded. when we arrived out here on the scene, what we saw was an operation going two ways. firstly, the police trying to drive these huge crowds out of this area, steadily pushing people back while ambulance and nonpolice were trying to get in. what we've seen through the course so far is multiple moving ambulances and all of it suggests what we're hearing from the ambulance services that there are multiple casualties. the latest report suggests that they have treated at least ten people. in addition to that, we're hearing reports like that from the british press association that suggests at least one person, a woman, has been killed as a result of this. so a significant incident.
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it all points to that, no doubt, one, where the police are not taking any chances, every possible precaution. we've heard them say recently in that statement from scotland area that they are treating this as a terrorist attack until they have reason to consider it otherwise. and so what you're seeing is this enormous police presence. initially the police that we met down here, they were, as you can imagine, very tense, very agitated. things are much calmer now that they have secured a pretty wide perimeter around the houses of parliament itself, one that extends, as i say, right up into the government districts of london. at this further perimeter, there's been some police officers as well securing this line as other investigators,
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police officers and, yes, still ambulances making their way down this road into the actual zone itself where this particular attack took place. so it all points to what we've been talking about. a significant incident at an iconic location. you can see over my shoulder that very famous tower that marks the houses of parliament there. the mother of parliament, as it's known around the world. an incredibly symbolic potential target, whatever the motive behind what is taking place here today. and what we're witnessing is very much an ongoing police operation. one where there is no sense, though, from the way that the police are behaving that there is any sort of ongoing threat. at least at this particular location within the government district itself, wolf. >> phil, we've just been told that the prime minister theresa may is about to chair a meeting
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of the government emergency cobra committee to discuss the immediate response to what is seen as a terror attack on westminster. this is according to the senior officials of the emergency services and intelligence agencies. so this would be an emergency meeting that she would bring together law enforcement, counterterrorism, counter intelligence officials to discuss what happened and where britain goes from here, right? >> reporter: phil, are you there? i think we may have lost him. >> reporter: sorry. lost you for a moment. >> i was just saying, give us a perspective on the cobra committee that this emergency meeting that the prime minister is about to convene. >> this would be a standard
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response. it's cabinet office briefing room a. they bring together either the leaders of the representatives of the governments to respond to any given crisis, whether a flood or, in this case, a very high-profile attack on a very high-profile target in the center of the government district of london. you're right, what you'll be hearing from there are representatives of the intelligence agencies and the police and all possible government interests that could either lend some insight into what happened here, what the possible motivation was but also what the response should be. to what extent there is an ongoing threat within the uk at the moment, whether or not this was one person, one lone wolf acting by himself or whether this represents one arm, if you'd like, of a wider plot to strike and other potential
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targets. you've heard from scotland yard. they are keeping an open mind. the prime minister will want to hear all of the latest information, the best possible intelligence that will allow her to make the necessary decisions going forward from here. so on one hand, how did this happen, who did it and why but, of course, to what extent has the threat itself been contained. >> we heard from the commander b.j. harrington of the london metropolitan police. they are treating this as a terror event. theresa may was evacuated from parliament when the incident occurred approaching 2 1/2 hours or so ago. on the line we have a member of parliament, adrian bailey. thanks for joining us you say as she was escorted and you were an eyewitness? >> that's correct.
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four or five very burly men surrounded the prime minister. each one bumped into me. my first reaction was, that was unusually rude. as i went into the lobby and realized that everything was locked down, i realized there was something was happening and then, of course, the news spread very rapidly that we were under attack and emergency. actions were being taken. >> and where are you now? >> i'm standing in the lobby immediately adjacent to the main chamber where the mps come in and they have been coralled there since the vote for our own safety. we have been told that there
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will be an evacuation but we haven't been told when and we haven't been told where we will be allowed to go. i did hear that the car that crashed into the railings outsi outside, they are awaiting to check there's no bomb in the suitcase before they allow us to go out but i can't confirm that. >> i want to stress, that's a rumor right there. i assume they'll check that vehicle for bombs under any circumstances. and they would presumably get some robotic equipment to deal with that, although i do see individuals that are dressed there and are investigating the automobile. you're still in lockdown as we approach 2 1/2 hours plus since this incident. they are going to be escorting you. did they say they'll let you go home or escorting you to a different location?
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>> i think we'll be escorted to a different location. sooner or later, we'll be allowed to go home but we haven't quite got that far yet. >> we see people, by the way, dressed in full protective gear and they are inspecting that vehicle that crashed into the security against outside of parliament. other than that, the area has clearly been evacuated. let's hope there isn't, but if there's a bomb in there, they would want to take care of that. >> the real reason they are doing that is to not only worry about bombs but the possibility of biological or chemical agents possibly being transmitted by this vehicle. so they are going through every measure that they can in order to make sure that there is nothing that could adversely
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affect the opening of parliament when that comes about. >> they have to worry, mr. bailey, about the worst-case scenario. that's why all of these steps are being taken, right. >> absolutely. i think all members of parliament understand that. there was initial disbelief and then apprehension and i think people are trying to find out exactly where we are and then sectioning friends and relatives to just reassure them that we're all okay and just waiting to see what happens next. >> well, good luck over there, adrien bailey, a member of parliament who is still in lockdown. max mofoster, you're right near this area. a lot of people are still stuck.
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tell us about that. >> reporter: yeah. so we've been allowed this far because this is where scotland yard is based, and there was a briefing a moment ago and they are calling for any sort of information or video that anyone might have seen because the issue that they have here is there's a report of someone in the river, for example. they just can't work out what that was. there's no sign of it now about there were multiple reports coming into the police at the time of this. we have police helicopters up there as well. you probably can't see them. >> i think we just lost our connection with max foster. we'll get back to him. clarissa ward lives in london and is in washington with us right now. you studied in this area, you know this area, and usually it would be bustling right now. >> it's extraordinary to see. it's 5:20 p.m. in london.
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this is normally the time that people finish work. the streets would be very busy with parliamentarians going home, tourists always out there in throngs. this is normally an incredibly crowded area. the london eye -- this is a major tourism attraction, it's a very large ferris wheel, as you can probably see for yourself, it's been suspended and there are people inside the london eye and some of those capsules who are being kept there and the situation is determined to be safe enough so those people can go out of the london eye. as i mentioned before, this is a
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major tourism attraction. people come from all over the world. you ride the ferris wheel, you get beautiful views of the whole of london. you can see the houses of parliament just behind and one can presume that this is probably quite frightening for some of the people who are trapped in those pods for more than 2 1/2 hours as they wait for police to determine that the situation has been diffused and the situation is okay. there are men in white looking at the scene where the car crashed. presumably as you said, looking to see if there's any kind of hazardous materials but also looking to take dna samples to pry to get a better sense of who the driver of that vehicle was, is he someone or is he someone who is known to authorities.
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still no clear picture as to the motive for this attack, as to who was responsible for it, was there one person, were there multiple perpetrators and authorities are taking it very seriously. they want to have a better sense of the situation, make sure the area is contained, make sure, wolf, as you said, that it's not potentially smoke screen for another potential attack until they have a better sense of that, you can be sure the parliamentarians will be staying in the houses of parliament and tourists stuck on the london eye will probably be staying there as well until the metropolitan police determines that it's safe enough for them all to exit. >> we just got a statement in from the house of commons in parliament, an extremely serious incident has occurred in the westminster area this afternoon. the statement says the metropolitan police is dealing with this and an investigation is under way. on behalf of members of both houses of parliament, we wish to
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offer our those to all those affected and their families. we would also like to express our gratitude to the police and emergency services. that's from the lord speaker and speaker of the house of chons. they are taking this extremely seriously, as they should right now. this whole notion that if this was a smoke screen, they have to worry about that. >> they do have to worry about it. it's exactly one year ago today that isis attacked brussels, coordinated attacks at the airport and underground stations. so clearly they cannot leave anything to chance here. so far it appears that one person, according to the british press association, has been killed. ten people hurt. that is, of course, much less than we saw in the incident in brussels, a tragic attack where 32 people were killed. authorities in london won't take
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any chances. they want to make sure that everything in that entire area of central london near the houses of parliament, that they have described as being under lockdown, that there is nothing else there that could precipitate more casualties. >> we're just getting this information in, clarissa. you know this area of the westminster bridge area. we're now being told that a t female, a member of the public, has been recovered from the water, alive but with injuries. he says the woman was recovered near the westminster bridge. he said i don't know how she got into the water. she's undergoing urgent medical care for her injuries right now. the river is closed between the voxel bridge and embankment. you know this area well? >> i do. this is one of the most confusing things that we heard from the authorities. we heard that they had a report
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of a woman in the river or a person in the river. it was not clear if that related to the specific attack. it appears it may. again, wolf, we're still trying to put together a picture of what happened. >> we have another eyewitness, allen perry, joining us right now. i understand you witnessed the attack. what did you see? >> in the house of lords, i was on my way to check into security and on the opposite sides of parliament, unfortunately for me and it might have been part of that incident and an eyewitness to it. i was walking around amidst a crowd of people when suddenly i had this enormous crash and band and looked across the pavement and saw this four by four vehicle that had clearly crashed into the railings that separated the pavement to the houses of parliament with the damaged and
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smoke coming from it. the next thing i saw, a guy who i assumed to be the driver of the vehicle get out, race away. i walked a few more paces and saw someone lying on the pavement, obviously injured. and then this was all quickly followed by what i assumed to be -- which i now realize was, indeed, three gunshots. the next thing, of course, was chaos. tourists who frequent that area, of course, people were panicking and telling everyone to clear away, clear away, which we did. and now i'm looking out over the thames towards the houses of parliament and the whole area, as you heard, is in complete lockdown. >> it's been nearly three hours.
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you haven't seen any easing of the lockdown? >> no, quite the opposite. there's been police cars racing in all directions, ambulances as well, sirens blaring away, helicopters in the sky. i can see over on westminster bridge the famous iconic london buses just stood there where they've been the last couple of hours. the london eye is still a rare sight, indeed. this police activity is still going on. he said my experience is that the whole area will continue in lockdown for a good 24 hours. i feel like i'm a lucky person because had i crossed over the opposite pavement, heaven knows what might have happened.
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>> did you resize that you were an eyewitness and what was going on how dangerous this situation was? bottom line, how scared were you? >> well, no, not immediately. i heard there was a traffic accident but i assumed the driver had a tire blowout or maybe he hit the cyclist because in central london, it's crawling with cyclists. it was only really, to be honest, when i heard the three gunshots that i realized that this was something a lot, lot more serious. scary reflection at the time, i think self-preservation kicks in. i didn't need a policeman to tell me to get out of the way. >> well, fortunately, you're okay, alan parry, an eyewitness to this incident nearly three hours ago. thank you for your eyewitness account. we really appreciate it.
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>> you're welcome. >> you know, nic robertson is still with us, our international diplomatic editor. he's on the scene and in front of parliament. you're getting more information. for our viewers right now -- first of all, update our viewers on what we know. >> at this stage, wolf, one person has been killed. there are ten injured. that a woman who is injured has been recovered from the river. her injuries are being treated at this time. we know the attacker drove his off-road type vehicle into the exterior wall at the houses of parliament on the westminster bridge and in doing so he struck a number of pedestrians. i'm going to step out of the way to complete this story for you. the attacker gets out of the car and runs around the corner and if you can see the picture
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there, the police vehicles, the cluster of offices, that is the gate into the yard. that's where the attacker ran in and he was accosted and halted by armed police officers. that's where they were being treated by the emergency services. but some of the other details just coming in, wolf -- and i'll update you with them as i have them here, a tweet from the french prime minister who says that french students were injured in london. this is coming from the french prime minister bernard casanov. he says that on twitter. that's the first beginning of identifications we've had. so give our viewers a little bit of context about the preparedness of the police counterterrorism forces here in london and the readiness that they have and the high level of alert that they are on, just this past week on sunday, 200
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police officers took part in a massive training exercise in case of a terror attack and the river is running right by the house of parliament. this was a training exercise, not lirnged to any specific information but a training exercise based on the assumption that this was an exercise to secure the boat, neutralize any terrorists on board that boat. that training took place just three days ago. and routinely they do these training exercises. this is just in the past few days here, wolf. >> it's a serious situation and once again, from your vantage point, the lockdown continues. we're approaching three hours since the incident was unveiled. three hours later, that lockdown
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remains in full force. is that right? >> absolutely. there's no taking down of any far distance at the perimeter and it's not armed offices still close to the scene of the attack. the emergency services and police say they want to keep this area clear because they want to be able to get emergency vehicles in and out. we see additional vehicles arriving in the last few minutes we have seen that. of course, this is a crime scene. forensic examination will be required as well as talking to the witnesses, the mps and others who are within the parliament buildings had a vantage point and some piece of useful information. we know the police at the moment are saying that they have an open mind to what caused this. they say that until they get further information, they are treating it as a terror attack.
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they are following a number of different lines of investigation. i think we can expect this cordoned to be in place for quite some time. >> we just got a statement in from rex tillerson. let me read it. this is on the attack in london. "on behalf of the united states, i express my condolences to the victims and their families. the american people send their thoughts and prayers to the people of the united kingdom. we condemn these horrific acts of violence and whether they were carried out by troubled individuals or the terrorists, the victims know no difference." that statement from rex tillerson. paul cruickshank is with us as well, our terrorism analyst. i know you've been monitoring social media. any terror organization claiming responsibility? >> no, there's not been any formal claim of responsibility at all. british authorities don't know
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what the motive is here. but this has all of the hallmarks of an isis-enabled attack. the fact that a vehicle was used, the fact that there was a stabbing of a police officer, that's exactly what they're calling for their sympathizers to do in the west. we've seen isis-linked attacks using vehicles notably in nice, in the south coast of france and then no one was killed back in november and you'll recall in that attack that the perpetrator rammed his car into pedestrians and then came out to try to stab people. the message isis is getting out to its supporters is that these
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attackers are extremely -- calling for a lot of blood shed. as i hear more and more details about what has happened in london, my mind goes back to that nice attack along the promenade when people were getting out of the vehicle and a woman appears to have fallen into the thames. >> apparently she's been recovered and she's alive. we're getting more information on that woman. paul cruickshank, stand by. clarissa, you're with me. cedric layton is also joining me. we just heard from rex tillerson. he said there's incredibly close intelligence, counterterrorism intelligence between the u.s. and the uk?
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>> i think it's fair to say -- and maybe cedric would know better than i, there's almost no more important relationship when it comes to counterterrorism or intelligence sharing and more largely the so-called five i's who cooperate very closely together. this is essential. and what you heard there from paul kruk sharveg, he touched on an important point. we don't know who is responsible for this attack or what the motivation was but we can't ignore the fact that this is straight out of the isis playbook. and i mean that very literally. i'm talking about a manual, which is known as the management of chaos which encourages people to attack civilians and create chaos, create fear, create an
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moss fee and misunderstanding within countries like the uk. so while we don't know exactly who perpetrated this attack or what motivated that person, i think it's fair to say that certainly this is something that metropolitan police will be looking into very carefully. for example, the nice attack that we saw on the promenade and it doesn't match the same playbook that we saw in berlin and we've seen on a much more successful level being replicated on an alarming basis across europe. this is what they will be looking at closely. >> i assume the u.s. will be studying what happened in london and other governments as well to learn lessons? >> absolutely. lessons learned are the key
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thing for both the u.s. and uk and european services as well and in this particular case, clarissa is right. the relationship between the uk and united states is absolutely not only the most important one but it's the cloeftest one of any of the intelligence services. so we'll be talking with the intelligence professionals and we'll see some manifestations of those conversations in the months to come here in the u.s. capital. >> clarissa, you've studied nearly the the parliament. this area is exactly three hours since the incident occurred. it's now 5:40 local time in london. you know this area well. i may have to interrupt you if we go to the white house briefing. >> i went to school, literally,
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to high school right around the corner from this and i can tell you, at 5:40 p.m., which is the time that it is right now in london, this area would be bustling. it's rush hour time. people are going home after a long day of work, people are going back to school, tourists are milling around. >> hold on a moment. the white house press secretary sean spicer. >> good afternoon. first, i want to note that the president has been briefed on the situation in london. he just spoke to prime minister may and we'll have a readout on that situation and that call soon. we obviously condemn today's attack in westminster, which the united kingdom is treating as an act of terrorism and we applaud the quick response that the british police and their first responders made to the situation for the victims in this, they are in our thoughts and our prayers. the city of london and her majesty's government have the full support of the u.s. government in responding to the
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attack and bring to justice those who are responsible. we'll provide you with other updates as warranted and a readout of the president's call with the politirime minister. the president and also an event attended by the vice president and health and human services dr. tom price. officials have seen the challenges of implementing obamacare firsthand and we continue to consider and enact policies like the american health care act that makes it more affordable for everyone. the women there represent the physicians, nurses, pharmacists and administrator who is make sure that people around the country receive the necessary preventative and life-saving car that they need every day. the doctors who attend to the patients and family practices,
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emergency rooms and clinics and those who support them on the administrative and technical sides are one of our country's most treasured resources. with the passage of the american health care act and the president's health care reform agenda, everyone, regardless of their financial situation, would be able to take full advantage of this resource. that's why at last count over 40 major -- >> we're going to continue to monitor this white house briefing. we will immediately go back there if there is more information. we're expecting a more thorough readout. clarissa ward, you're with us. we're watching this carefully three hours since the incident occurred. one woman dead, ten others injured but the lockdown continues? >> they are not leaving anything to chance. it's extraordinary to see this, people are finishing work and
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school, it's a spring day. they are filling the pubs having a drink after work and today we see in the very beating heart of london, the seat of power, houses of parliament, you can almost hear a pin drop. we know there are 300 particle men te partic partic parliamentarians and they have been there now for some hours while essentially the police and authorities go about their work of trying to make sure that everything has been accounted for, that there is no longer a threat. we all saw the images of men in white, in full white suits, combing through the wreckage of that car that crashed into the gates outside parliament. those men presumably looking for any hazardous materials, whether they be biological or explosive. but also looking for some kind
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of dna evidence. who was the driver, is this person known to authorities, what was the motivation? there are so many questions that authorities are now trying to answer. all at the same time. that's why i think you are still seeing a heightened alert. you heard from the metropolitan police that they are not willing to say that the situation has been cleared, that they are not willing to say exactly what happened even. they were getting pieces of information piecemeal. they heard that a car had collided with pedestrians and a stabbing followed by gunfire as police attempted to neutralize an assailant who was posing a threat at the houses of particle men. so clearly authorities are trying to wrap their arms around this information, put it together into some kind of working hypothesis and make sure that that area, that area that
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is filled with people at this time is safe and secure so they can gradually begin to get things back to normal again. >> we know one individual got inside with a knife, stabbed a police officer and then that individual was shot by other police officers. we don't know that person's condition but presumably they have an i.d. already, they know who this person is? >> normally they would. the key thing is that the scott land ya scotland yard is good at identifying suspects. they are among the best in the world. some would say the best in the world. they will check with the databases and go through and when they can do this, they can
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not only figure out who it was but a potential motive and figure out who was connected to whom and are they have pressure that is being caused by isis right now. or is it something else. and as the investigation moves forward we should know fairly something soon. scotland yard is about to have another statement, at least a statement and update us on new information coming in. >> yes. usually what will happen is they start to give out preliminary data points that they have. and things that they don't know or need the public's help with, once they have done that, they will then also perhaps step back if they don't take questions,
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you know the investigation is still not quite wrapped up but what they will also do is send a signal to other law enforcement and intelligence agencies around the world of what kinds of areas of assistance they will need and where they can actually use some extra information so they'll be contacting their colleagues, not all over europe but probably around the world. >> and this is a time when normally the end of march, a lot of tourists in london right now, clarissa, you live there. >> there are a lot of tourists. we've learned from france that there are three french students among the injured. we've learned from hala gorani that there was a school trip there and -- >> the statement was wrapping up as we were beginning this. >> okay. >> the president said keep your doctor, keep your plan, didn't
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work out that way, you don't get your doctor, you don't get the plan. this is one of the reasons that we need to repeal obamacare. is the president assuring people who currently like their doctor that under the american health care act they can keep the doctor and their plan? >> that's my hope. they were promised something that didn't turn out. i can't promise something that a doctor stays in a plan or a plan stays there. that's a bit different. we understand that we're letting market forces come into play here, competition, doctors can change what insurances they take, plans can come in and out of markets. what i think we can be assured of is a couple of things. one is, currently under obamacare, premiums are set to continue to skyrocket. we've seen an average of 5%. in arizona, they've gone up 116%. i think there's no question that the additional competition and amendments that have been brought into this discussion will help lower the trajectory of that. number one. number two, i think they will
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see greater choice. so i think those are the things that we're willing to talk about being part of this plan, because you can't -- where they erred last time is make promises that they couldn't keep. one of the problems that they did is instead of lowering costs and increasing choice it did the opposite and that's where this is headed. >> on the ahca mark meadows who appears to be a firm no in terms of his opposition to the replacement bill said that 25 members of the freedom caucus are opposed to this replacement bill. do you dispute those numbers? >> i know we saw lou bar teteta
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steve king, he's a yes, the flow keeps getting stronger for us, so i'm not going to start to get into yes or nos, but would say former congressman mulvaney, now director mulvaney who is a leader in that caucus has been a strong advocate up on the hill talking to his former colleagues assuring them of the effort and why the process has to go the way it does. but i'm optimistic in the sense of what we're seeing in the trajectory and the number of votes flowing our way, not the other way. >> the confirmation hearing on judge neil gorsuch, i have not seen any democrat come out in support of judge gorsuch, do you anticipate you will get democratic support on this nomination? >> i hope and believe so. i think there have been several spoken very positively. i think he's been extremely
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impressive throughout the confirmation process and you have heard members both from the senate on the committee and then a lot of outside voices comment on how well he's done, how qualified he is and it's tough for anybody to say that he's not immensely qualified for this possession. >> related to congressman white house, can you explain why the white house has agreed to meet with him at all about what his findings are and the reason i ask that is because the minute director comey said there was an official investigation it might appear as though the white house has been interfering with the investigation -- not to the white house but to the fbi, so why is anyone here at the white house agreeing to meet with him about his --? >> we'll have a read out after the meeting, he made the announcement. i don't know who else he shared
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them with. to your question, i don't know if he's briefed anyone else on it in terms of the intelligence community either evan rogers or comey, but i think after the meeting hopefully depending on the classification level we may be able to share more on that with you. >> is the president concerned at all there will be an appearance immediately today that he has interfered with an ongoing investigation whether a congressional or executive branch investigation by meeting privately with a congressman -- >> let me get this straight number one two weeks ago we said this is the appropriate venue, two, you have asked over and over again why aren't we meeting with certain individuals, one of the chairman wants to share his findings or what he knows, that's exactly how we talked about this working but would leave it to congressman nunez,
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he briefed the media before he briefed us talked about what he found. it interesting i didn't see any complaints from you when he went down and held a press conference when he found for the ump teenth. when he says this is whatti i'v learned there seems to be a double standard. >> he had additional information that he believed or his representatives would present related to this investigation. what congressman nun es is not related -- >> you're asking me questions he has not briefed uh, n, not briee president. he went down and spoke to media before us, you have had your collectively the media has more
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of an opportunity to ask questions and to hear what he has to say than we do at this point, so once we have more to understand what he said to the extent we can we will be glad to share it with you but the media has more information at this point than we do. >> didn't we already know there was incidental collection of intelligence involving some members of the transition team? and i point to -- >> not the way you guys ask the questions. you questioned us every day about we knew and now you're saying didn't we already know. >> but in his conversations with kislyak. >> my point john is i don't know. he made a statement. went down to the press. until we get briefed on this, until the president gets briefed, i don't know what he knows, so to ask until that occurs and until we have the ability to share some of that in an unclassified nature. i don't want to get ahead of it.
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i don't know what he knows, apparently that's why he's coming up to share his findings with the president. at least that's what he said. >> on the american health care act mark meadows says they don't have the vote, they need to start over and do a bill. that sounds like pretty serious trouble. >> no that is one member's opinion. i just named a few members part of that caucus that came on board. look, every day you see more and more of those members throughout the entire conference express their support for the bill. the president was up yesterday for a while talking to them. members in the vice president nick mulvaney, reince priebus, they have been flooding the hill, had meetings with them, i think the trajectory is going very well for us. >> and -- says you can remove
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the regulatory frame work and tax credits and you will get massive buy-ins from conservative. >> there are certain constraints for the reconciliation process and those steeped the ararchian- it has to do with the budgetary nature to get that sustained at 50 votes. right now there are a lot of things people would like but will not get ruled with the parliamentarian, we have created a vehicle to get this done. this is the only way we will repeal and replace obamacare and people have to recognize there's a three-step process, this is exactly how the democrats enacted it and exactly how we will unwind it and implement a much better system. that's it plain and simple. >> i know you can't get ahead of
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nunes, but what he said is incidental illegal fisa warrant. >> i don't believe he said fisa warrant. >> he did. and does the trump administration has the presumption that foreign leaders will not be surveilled when teyp are in contact -- >> i don't want to start talking or guessing what he may say or not say or explain this. i think we will have more information or hope to have more information once the president is briefed and to find out what else has gone on in terms of additional information on this. but i do think it is a startling revelation and a lot of questions that need to get asked. all of the questions are in the presumptive negative towards us as to why was this taking place, why were people surveilled on sten zifly.
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>> was your presumption that -- >> no, it's not a presumption -- respectfully i'm not the one with the presumption you guys are, i don't come up here presuming anything, i started my comments off by saying. >> -- presuming that foreign officials are being monitored when they're talk to go anyone. >> then i think there's a series of questions which is how many times is an individual picked up? why were they picked up were they unmasked. a lot if they're picked up in a fisa warrant, they're being amassed by having their name put out there, what ways were they described. there's a lot of questions that need to get asked. how many times was one individual followed? did their name get unmasked an why? but there's a lot of things to get followed up on. we're not on that position, multiple times the chairman is going to come up here and broo
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-- brief the president. >> you said there's more information to come, more information to come, is this -- >> i don't know. for the eighth time, there is no -- we don't know what he is going to come up here and explain and share and to talk about where we think this is head. we're not in the business to say we're trying to get to point that this is what they have. we have asked that people gather up information and what they have to what extent we will know soon. >> the mother of eric garner met with an official at the white house yesterday. she's looking for fairness and justice in her son's case. what should we expect to come out of that meeting with this white house official should there be a push to make sure that there is an indictment of the police officers -- >> that's a department of justice question and -- for us to get