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have information that associates of donald trump communicated with suspected russian operatives to possibly coordinate the release of information damaging to hillary clinton's campaign. fbi director james comey made his bombshell announcement on monday that the fbi is investigating trump campaign's ties to russia. the fbi is reviewing that information which includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings. the information is what raised the suspicions of the fbi counterintelligence investigators that coordination may have taken place, though officials caution that the information is not conclusive and the investigation is still on going. now, the fbi would not comment, nor would the white house, though we heard from trump officials they denied there's any evidence of collusion. >> evan, does this give us more insight into what director comey was saying or alluding to when he spoke to that committee on
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monday? >> that's right. it really does. if you recall, in addition to what comey said about the investigation looking into connections of trump associates, he also explained what it means for this investigation, that it is being done. take a listen to what he sard about the committee. >> don't you need some action or some information besides just attending a meeting, having been paid to attend a conference, that a picture was taken or you traveled to a country before you're open to investigation for counterintelligence by the fbi? >> the standard is, i think there's a couple different at play. a credible allegation of wrongdoing or reasonable basis to believe that an american may be acting as an agent of a foreign power. >> one law enforcement official says the information suggests, quote, people connected to the campaign were in contact and it appeared they were giving the thumbs up to release information when it was ready. other officials who looked at the information say it's premature to draw that inference
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from the information gathered so far because it's circumstantial. the fbi can't prove collusion took place. but the information suggesting collusion is now the focus of this investigation. >> let me ask you something, evan. what do you make of nunes going to the white house and the press with information that wasn't new, which was that some of trump's subordinates may have been caught in ancillary surveillance? that's how they knew about flynn, how they knew about these contacts in the first place. he didn't talk about your reporting and the underlying reason for it. does it start to feel like this was a stunt. it was to help the white house narrative, not necessarily give the late of the information. >> it seems to implode what nunes was trying to do with that committee. at this point we don't know who the associates were being investigated for this possible collaboration or coordination. the fbi already said it's investigating four former trump
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campaign associates for contact with russians known to u.s. intelligence. all four have denied improper contacts. chris, one of the obstacles that the people we're talking to say that the fbi now faces in finding any conclusive intelligence is that the communications between trump's associates and russians have ceased in recent months giving the focus on russia's ties to the trump campaign. some russian officials they've been watching have changed their methods of communications which is going to make it all that more difficult for the fbi to monitor what they're doing. chris? >> appreciate it, evan. let us know what the next turn is in this investigation. you have the facts of it and then you have the politics of what's going on when it comes to trump's spy claims. house intel chairman devin nunes definitely revealed the private communications of trump's transition team may have been intercepted by the u.s. intel
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monitoring foreign officials. this is how they got flynn. is that really new information to the white house as nunes suggests? what is new is that nun necessary nunes did not go to his own committee before going to the press and the white house. that's where we got to cnn's joe johns live at the white house with more. can't think of another occasion when someone running a committee went to the subject of the committee before vetting information with his own investigators? >> reporter: it's pretty interesting. nunes said he had a duty to alert the president because this information had nothing to do with russia and everything to do with surveillance. look, you have an fbi investigation going on that evan was just talking about, you have the whole country watching to see how congressional republicans are going to handle their own investigation and then the chairman of the house intel committee does this. it certainly raises questions about the ability of this house
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intel committee to conduct a fair and impartial investigation. >> reporter: house intelligence committee chairman devin nunes stunning washington. >> i thought it was important for the president to know this. >> reporter: rushing to the white house to warn president trump that communication involving members of his transition team may have been picked up through normal incidental surveillance, apparently all legally conducted. >> it does appear like his name and people -- and others ended up into intelligence reports. most people would say that is surveillance. >> nunes himself, a member of the president's transition team under fire for going to the media before briefing democratic members of the house intelligence committee. >> we can't have a presidential whisperer. >> reporter: the white house immediately seizing on nunes' statements. the top democrat on the intelligence committee angrily responding to the republican chairman's actions for
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potentially politicizing their bipartisan investigation into russia's interference in the last election. >> the chairman will need to decide whether he is the chairman of an independent investigation into conduct which includes allegations of potential coordination between the trump campaign and the russians, or he's going to act as a surrogate of the white house because he cannot do both. >> reporter: president trump responding to the revelations. >> do you feel vindicated by chairman nunes coming over here? >> i somewhat do. i very much appreciated the fact that they found what they found. >> reporter: nunes repeatedly has said this information he disclosed yesterday has nothing to do with the president's bogus claim that president obama wiretapped him, and new this morning, an interview between president obama and "time" magazine in which the president was asked about his relationship with the truth. we have a graphic, he was asked
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is there anything different about making these kind of predictions without having the factual evidence as president? president trump responds, i'm a very instinctual person but my instinct turns out to be right. chris and alisyn, back to you. >> we'll have that reporter on with us to share his take on that very telling interview soon, joe. thank you very much. now to the showdown over health care. in just hours the house is expected to hold a cliff-hanger vote on the gop's plan to repeal and replace obamacare. republicans at this hour are still divided. cnn's whip count has 28 republicans voting against the bill or at least leaning that way. cnn's suzanne malveaux is live on capitol hill. what's the latest, suzanne? >> reporter: good morning, alisyn. house republicans are all set for this vote later tonight. what's interesting, there is no particular time set. they're leaving that potentially open-ended. in the meantime, the issues at hand are new here.
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we're talking about the requirements for health care to cover things like maternity leave, hospitalization, mental health and even prescription drugs. these are all potential concessions to conservatives to bring them on board. >> reporter: down to the final hour, trying to reunite republicans on the american health care act. >> there's still a lot of details to work out. >> reporter: after vowing to vote know, the chairman of the house freedom caucus says he can close the deal with the white house. >> to say that we've got a deal wouldn't be accurate. the president and i came to an agreement in principal. >> conservatives like meadows want to restrict the obamacare provision of essential health benefits, something they say will lower the cost of premiums. satisfying these conservatives could mean jeopardizing support for more moderate republicans. >> we feel like we're getting really, really close. >> reporter: house speaker paul
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ryan behind closed doors, angered by proposed changes. a key figure in the moderate pool, representative charlie dent delivering a blow, declaring he will oppose the plan, saying in a statement, i believe this bill in its current form will lead to the loss of coverage and make insurance unaffordable for too many americans. the white house, though, remains optimist optimistic. >> member by member we're seeing tremendous support and the count keeps going stronger. >> reporter: billionaire brothers charles and david koch pledging millions to help reelect republicans who vote against the bill. >> reporter: trump countering, giving pressure for members of congress to get on board, tweeting this morning here, you were given many lies with obamacare, go with our plan, call your representative and let them know you're behind the american health care act. president trump later today will be meeting with the house
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freedom caucus, a conservative group about 11:30 this morning to see what is it that they need in order to sign on to this bill. chris? >> suzanne, thank you very much. joining us right now, republican congressman greg walden of oregon, one of the architect of the gop's health care bill. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, chris. good to be with you. >> do you think you'll have the vote today, tonight, and do you think you can get the votes? >> i think it's yes to both questions. a lot of work has gone into this over many months, not just the last 24 hours. you know how these things have come together. the president has been extraordinary, and the others in the white house have been very involved, meeting with members of all persuasions to put together a plan that is the best plan for the american people. that's what we're moving forward on. we believe it will come to the floor today and we'll have the votes. >> a couple of conceptual issues that seem to be creating divisions within your own party.
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the first is, some of the concessions, taking outmanned tore coverage, whether it's mental health or maternity leave, allowing someone to price a plan to their own needs. that sounds good to a lot of people who want to see their premiums come down, but it would be a material change, would it not, from the notion of shared sacrifice, by all of us being in the pool, even if some of us don't need certain points of care, it reduces the cost for all overall. are you changing that on purpose? >> yes, chris. those are obviously very important protections in the current law. there are also protections. when i was in the state legislature, we made sure we were available in many cases. we want to make sure people have access to more plans. as you know, plan providers are pulling out of the markets. there are states going forward that may have no option on the obamacare exchange. premiums have gone up 50% in the last two years. while we have a couple of plans left, i worry about one of three counties in america, they're
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down to one plan. we have to make adjustments. i've heard from a lot of people all over the country that they're forced to buy a plan that has provisions they don't need, don't want. some are walking away if you look at the data by a two to one margin, 20 million people say no, i'll pay a penalty and take the exemption. that's hurting the market. we're trying to find the balance here where we have essential protections, and those are -- i understand that. we can do that through the state regulators and allow a little more flexibility in these plans so they're more affordable and people will take them up. that's how we get to the pooling that you and i would agree is very important. >> speak to that more deeply. the give seems to include a takeaway. you remove the mandate. so now you'll have a lot of young people or people not willing to risk it not enter in. the cbo includes those people as losing coverage.
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that would be volitional. you're giving the choice by removing the mandate and the reason it was in the aca, so you get the full context of the question, they put these provisions into the aca because states weren't doing it on their own, the uniform coverage wasn't there for too many people, so they mandated it. speak to those points. >> they're really good points. of those who chose not to buy insurance -- think about this, people are paying $695 a year to the irs so they don't have to buy this insurance product under the obamacare exchange. 45% of those who said -- who have taken that option, to pay the irs and not take obamacare are under the age of 35. we know the way it's set up today, the exchanges are getting smaller, not larger. options are more expand si, not affordable. younger people are saying no thanks, not interested in what you're buying. to make sure there are other options to get people coverage they can afford with a
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deductible they can afford to pay, remember this is in context of just what we can do in reconciliation. we've passed legislation to allow small businesses to group up in the association health plans. i was at a radio station for more than 20 years. we provided insurance for our employees. i never had the ability to group up and get buying power. i wanted that as a small business owner. we're looking at this from a broader context than just what we can do in this bill to accomplish the goal you're talking about. >> you have what elijah cummings called the moral argument on this issue. if you take money out of the medicaid system, no matter how you want to define it, you're going to wind up having people that don't have the money for coverage. yes, i understand we'll give it to states, the states have more choice. you know what you're hearing from the governors of the states who need medicaid expansion, they say we don't have the money. we barely could deal with it before, now you're giving us
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made. is there a moral argument that you're making a choice, we're okay with millions of people who are poor not getting coverage to lower the prum yums from other groups. >> let me take it from two different directions. when we wrote to the governors, many governors including the governor of ohio, kasich, said please give us relief from the essential benefits, we can design better plans here that will work for ohi ans. that's an area where we have common ground. on the moral question, here is the one that should be asked. under obamacare what the federal government said, if you're an able bodied adult, the federal government will pay 100% to the states to put you on medicaid. that resulted in some folks being forced onto medicaid that didn't want it, the five to six million who had insurance and lost it. some of that was different because of the way the insurance
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market was raft r crafted. some got pushed onto medicaid. they said 100%. in my state if you're aged, blind, disabled, do you know what the match rate is? the federal government says we'll pay 63%, in other states it's 50%. that's the moral question. should we spend 100% or 90% at the end of this ten-year window on able bodied adults, or should we shift that and try and put money into the age, blind and disabled. we said, for example. seniors in nursing homes, we'll pay not only cost of medical inflation, but cost of medical inflation plus one. we heard from people saying that's a more expensive population to manage, same for disabled. we plussed that up. we have $100 billion going to states over the next ten years including 30 over the next two years before, by the way, we make any changes in the subsidies and support that are there for obamacare. so i think we've got a balanced plan here that will work for people. >> we're waiting on the cbo
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score. it was supposed to come out. it didn't. the main question you have to deal with you have more people covered or less. congressman, appreciate you making the case on "new day." the devil is in the details. >> thank you, chris. up next, a big scoop for a "time" magazine reporter who has a one-on-one interview with president trump. what the president is now saying about his baseless wiretapping claims and the other wild allegations he's made. that reporter joins us next. inspecting towers way up high avoiding turbulence in the sky. personalizing treatments with dna and recommending who should play. a dress that thinks, which crops to grow, tax prep to help keep payments low. you can find me on an oil rig, i answer questions small and big. hello, my name is watson.
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president trump sitting down with "time" magazine shortly after house intel chairman devin nunes had a press briefing about his team's communication being picked up by u.s. surveillance. when asked about his baseless wiretapping claims, president trump told the reporter this, when i said wiretapping, it was in quotes because wiretapping is, you know, today it is different than wiretapping. it is just a good description, but wiretapping was in quotes. what i'm talking about is surveillance. the man who did that interview, "time" magazine washington bureau chief michael sheerer joins us with cnn presidential historian douglas brinkley. thank you for being here. michael, fascinating article and interview with the president. he told you a lot of really interesting tidbits. what did you learn yesterday? >> that donald trump, president
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trump doesn't see truth and falsehood as a binary distinction. on every point i pressed him on, he talked about a lot of things, his claim that 3 million undocumented immigrants voted ill really in the last election, claim that ted cruz's father with the assassination of jfk. something horrible in sweden happened the night before he gave a talk in florida. he gave no ground on either and basically contested each one on different grounds that became very muddy very quickly. >> yes. i want to stop you for one moment. we have a clip of this, a little excerpt. i want to read it so they understand what we're saying. when you asked, 3 million people did not vote illegally or that was baseless, you say the claim the 3 million undocumented people voted in the last election, he said i think i'll be proved right about that, too.
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he said he makes predictions and his predictions come true. >> his biggest armament is he's been prophetic in the past. to demonstrate that point he said he predicted england would leave the european union in the brexit vote which he did and which was true. that he'd win the presidency and he predicted. many people didn't agree that would happen. he mentioned he tweeted that anthony weiner's sexting would get hillary clinton in trouble. we found out a few weeks before the election that was certainly the case. he was basically asking for a degree of faith here. the most interesting one in terms of the temporal matter was the sweden issue. he said he was write about what he said about sweden because a couple days later there were disturbances in sweden. he said that's what i was talking about.
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>> so he predicted the future. >> michael is just repeating what was said to him. it doesn't mean he owns these notions. professor, we turn to you for that. this is scary talk. logically there's a huge difference between saying something did happen like 3 million people voted illegally and saying time will prove -- that's not a prediction. that's an assertion of fact he has no basis for and saying some day 3 million people may vote illegally. they're very different. have you ever seen a president work off what he calls intuition this way to the exception of actual fact? >> i read the article very carefully. he's a fabricator and trades in conspiracy theories. in the article he says i read it, i'm quoting in an article.
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i could download a hundred articles right now that say neil armstrong never walked on the moon. this cannot be the standard for the president of the united states. he's living in a fantasy realm. if you do 100 predictions this summer, there will be a wildfire in california, a terrorist attack in europe and then what happens and then i say, you see, i saw things in advance. that is snake oil medicine. that's for a public that's asleep at the wheel. we've never had that kind of lame, lackluster leadership in america. we've had devious moments of richard nixon moving chest pieces in illegal ways. >> you asked about where he gets his information. that's what douglas is saying. he said, well, i have an article that says it or judge andrew napolitano who has now been suspended for saying things fox news couldn't back up.
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he's a highly respected judge. that's where i get it. it is fascinating to hear the president of the united states who arguably could have the best primary sources with just the lifting of a phone call say that he gets all of his information from various, not even news sources. >> he's operating this way for a long time. i talked to him back in 2015 about a tweet he sent around, he retweeted a tweet that gave false statistics about the number of white people in the u.s. killed by black people. it was basically a racist meme that was going around. he retweeted it. i said don't you feel like you need to correct this? it had numbers that weren't true? he said it's a retweet, not a tweet. there's a big difference between a retweet and a tweet. i also asked him about whether he thinks this sort of behavior will hurt his credibility over the long term which is something i think a lot of people do think. he basically gave no ground
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there. he said, did you see i had 25,000 people in kentucky this week at a rally. at the end of the interview he said i'm president and you're not, basically restating the same thing. the proof of my success, the proof of my credibility is the fact of the election. >> quinnipiac has in the latest poll he's at about 60% of people not believing he's true. professor, it takes us to the same point. michael's interview is illustrative of a proposition. trump does this because he thinks it works for him. in fact, it has worked up to this point. when he was doing birtherism, it wasn't because he wanted to be president, it played on pep's want for conspiracy. it made him relevant. he's doing the same thing now. what does history suggest this leads to? >> what it suggests is that the
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press has over estimated him. many people thought once he became president, he would pivot, change, recognize the sheer power of being in the oval office and be able to get real intelligence information. he didn't have to just play on intuition and whim. alas he's been unable to modify himself. candidate trump is president trump. these miss stapts catch up with you. this week he said the ryan care plan is going to pass, he's got the votes. we're going to find out today, tomorrow morning. we'll be talking about whether the earlier comment this week was true or not. that's politics. he's trying to spin. people can usually accept that. when you make up things like barack obama wasn't born in the united states, that's so far out of the realm of sanity, that you have to almost borrow beat him to get admission of a mistake.
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he should have said on the tweet about wiretapping, that i just goofed it, i was angry, it was the morning, put it behind him. instead we're spending millions and millions on taxpayer money because he wants to create falsehood. that's going to catch up with him in the end. >> i would just add to what you said, there is a pattern here that, from birtherism to the claim mexico was sending rapists across the border, the claim muslims celebrated on 9/11, claim that 3 million undocumented people voted, all of them without evidence, but they are incredibly viral. as a messaging tool for him, even this debate we're having now on cnn when we're discussing whether it's true or not true, it allows him to get out his message. for a lot of his supporters, it's been effective. they don't care about what is true or not. what they care about is he's shaking up washington, upsetting the right people. so i think there is a way in
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which we should admit that at least to this time, and i think there's a lot of reason to belie believe, it's been quite successful. >> absolutely. he's president michael scherer, thank you for sharing your reporting with us. it's a fascinating read. douglas brinkley, thanks for the context. >> equal parts, untrue and successful. maybe only in politics. breaking details in the terror attack in england. with very a live report. there have been arrests, next. . travel with my daughter. roller derby. ♪ now give up half of 'em. do i have to? this is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire. but, if we start saving even just 1% more of our annual income... we could keep doing all the things we love. prudential. bring your challenges.
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house intelligence committee chair devin nunes revealing the the media and the president a story about the communications of president trump's soetsz that may have been picked up on fairly standard surveillance by u.s. intelligence. congressman nunes told the president and the press before telling fellow committee members. is his congressional investigation now compromised? let's discuss with jason candor, cnn political commentator, now a
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national security commentator. gentlemen, thank you for being here. we have a lot of news coming in fast and furious? this morning, mike rogers, you are the perfect person to speak to about this. you were the chair of the house intel committee. devin nunes replaced you in that role. if you got some sort of sense thif information about the president while you were investigating the president's associates, would you have gone to the president to tell him that? >> i have to tell you it is time for an adult-only swim at the hotel pool here. is a little concerning to me on both sides. this duelling press conference deal is no way to answer a very serious investigation. if that material was pertinent to the investigation, then i think you need to stand with the committee's investigation and do
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it through the regular order of that. he said something interesting, one, it had nothing to do with russia, that will raise more questions that it was legally obtained and likely proper and had some intelligence value. all of those raises more questions, doesn't answer questions. i was scratching my head a little bit on why he took this particular tact to do it. of course now they're both being partisan about it and i worry about the voracity of the investigati investigation. >> very quickly, is that committee's work compromised and is it time for an independent commission because devin nunes did this? >> you have the fbi investigation on going. that should be allowed to move forward. it's not too late. stop the duelling press conferences, get to the seriousness of the matter of what are russian activities in the intelligence world. i think they can still do that.
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but they need to do it now. it's adult-only swim time. any time you have u.s. citizens' names involved in an investigation, this is not something you play politics with. they need a serious investigation to get to the facts and present those facts to the american people. you don't have to leak this out over months. you need to do your investigation and then provide your conclusion and your findings. not too late, as long as this looks the way it does with these duelling press conferences -- the hadfields and mccoys aren't going to do it. >> i was happy to see the news was brute forward. i wish he had this on monday. >> i want to stop you right there because of what chairman rogers just said, why not do this the regular way? share it with the committee colleagues. why are you happy that he brought it forward in a press conference? >> effectively the entire hearing that came up on monday was one big effort questioning
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the credibility of the president. the fact of the matter is, as you discussed in your previous segment, here is another example of where the president is right. the president was right he was being surveilled and that's exactly what this information -- >> is it? >> absolutely. >> hold on a second. devin nunes just said that it could have been -- they could have been swept up in the practice of listening or something, surveilling foreign agents, and that happens. so that's not surveillance of the trump team or trump towers. >> but if it was incidental collection of information getting swept up through back door surveillance, then surveillance is surveillance. if his information is getting picked up, then that's -- and it's being -- americans are being unmasked, that's illegal. you're not supposed to do that. i think my bigger, broader frustration here is it really seems like the rapid response
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effort of the democratic party has now shifted over to folks career kbbureaucrats and peoplen government who have an agenda to tear down the president and they're outsourcing. >> are there important distinctions here? >> the most important distinction is that this is all one big theater act that they're doing in order to try and save face politically. we are living through a tom clancy novel right now and these folks are acting like it's politics as usual. all this stuff about trying to switch it over to what congressman nunes had to say, this is paul revere coming through saying the british are coming and people saying, that's not how you ride a horse. there is smoke to get away from the fact that there's a real problem here. what the republicans in washington need to stop focusing on party toll ticks and stand up
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for their country. >> jason kander, what's the real problem we're being distracted from? >> nothing less than the fact that russia has clearly tried to and it seems had quite a bit of success with infiltrating a campaign that was going on for president and then actually having a ridiculous amount of access and influence within this administration. that's what everything in congress should be about right now. last year the republicans were doing nothing but saying because there was an faib investigation going on with hillary clinton that, therefore, she was disqualified from being president. jason miller said it the day before the election. >> guys, we have so much to talk about with you. i have to cut it short because we have breaking news coming out of london. thank you very much. obviously we'll continue the developments in the story. chris? >> on the london terror attack, there are arrests. we're learning more about the attack and who is taking responsibility. we go live to the u.k. next. stay with cnn.
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theirs, a soldier of isis. we've heard this language from isis before, claiming attacks. this has come through the news agency loosely affiliated with isis. they did this around the nice attack last year in france. now they're doing it again here in britain with this attack that followed a very similar style. arrests behind me here overnight, three people taken away during an armed raid. very unusual for an armed raid in britain. police went in using battering rams. we heard from the bright tisch prime minister, british born, known to intelligence agencies, known to ma5. they decided a few years ago he was periphery to the investigations, decided he was impertinent to any on going reasons to surveil him or have
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cause to keep a closer eye on him. but right now, we don't have an identity. the police not giving that, british born, isis saying he was one of their soldiers. >> nic, you proved the point. investigators only need to be wrong once. that's how big their challenge is every day. thank you very much for that reporting. is the cloud of russia affecting president trump's ability to govern and push through his am genda? we get "the bottom line" next. wd off a bridge, would you? you hungry? i'm okay right -- i'm... i'm becoming my, uh, mother. it's been hard, but some of the stuff he says is actually pretty helpful. pumpkin, bundling our home and auto insurance is a good deal! like buying in bulk! that's fun, right? progressive can't protect you from becoming your parents, but we can protect your home and auto.
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congressman devin nunes called russia a dark cloud hanging over this administration earlier this week. is it stalling the president's agenda? let's go to cnn political director david chalian. isn't that to be determined? we don't know yet if the republican health care bill is going to pass tonight. so do we know if all of the russia cloud is affecting the president's agenda? >> we don't know that yet. i groo e with you, alisyn. we do know it's a distraction
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that has interrupted their desired messaging strategy because i'm sure they would rather be talking about selling this health care bill, getting out there, pointing to what comes behind this health care bill, tax reform, other big initiative items. but every sean spicer briefing and every interaction the president has with the press for the last few weeks has been dominated by the russia stuff. his tweets, the surveillance and the wiretapping. clearly it's a distraction. to your point, we'll learn tonight -- not that you can directly tie it, but we'll learn if indeed his agenda is stalled? >> no smile irony in the fact nunes saying it's a dark cloud and he tried to be a nice ray of sunshine, david chalian. he goes around his committee with information that is uniquely helpful to the white house. >> he became a lightning bolt. >> it's surveillance, proves the president right, but not about russia, and no proof about what it is about. little convenient or just the
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facts? >> he basically said, mr. president, here is something for you to say you feel vindicated on, for your troops and supporters to say, see the media has no idea what they're talking about. get that ginned up. it didn't resolve any of the questions we've been asking. >> made new ones. if it's not russia related, we don't know it wasn't russia related. if it is something else, let's take nunes at his word for a second, what else are the trump people caught up in that required surveillance? that's a troubling question in and of itself, isn't it? >> remember, it's not the trump people being surveilled here. >> right. they weren't the target. >> exactly. but we don't know. so these questions will need to be answered. he raised a lot more questions, completely undermined the house
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intelligence committee exercising its work. >> david, let's talk about this vote tonight. if it passes, that is a huge win, obviously, for president trump because there were so many reluctant people still on the fence. can we conclude he won them over if it passes? >> this has been, as we've been reporting every day on this health care battle, an uphill climb for the administration. if he's merges, getting this bill through the house today if indeed they are able to have the vote as planned, that's a big victory for president trump, for speaker ryan, no doubt about it. it still has a huge uphill mountain to climb in the senate, but he could absolutely rejoice in a big victory and big statement that he can do this job, apply his salesmanship expertise, get the deal done and move his agenda forward. that's huge. he might be on the precipice of a really big victory. if it goes down, alisyn and
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chris, it is going to be such a severe body blow to the presidency that he is going to have to work three times as hard to get things back. this is a definition of the trump presidency. >> jim jordan, he said i'm going to do what's right at the people and take him at his word. you have to believe under that intense pressure and how big it would be optically based on what you're saying, he may get the house on board for this because they don't want to be responsible pour the dem mice. will it come at the cost of a bill that the senate gop won't even consider? >> we know that. you'll have house members who walk the plank to protect the president that will need political cover. that's why part of his salesmanship will be, i'll have your back. >> david chalian, thanks very much for "the bottom line". we have some extras for you after "the bottom line." take a look.
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