tv Inside Politics CNN March 23, 2017 9:00am-10:01am PDT
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welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king. thanks for sharing your day with us. a very big day it is. the spy novel plot thickens. the fbi is saying they have records suggesting associates of then candidate trump worked with russian operatives on the timing of anti-clinton disclosures in last year's campaign. >> there are so many moving parts here, including the latest news this morning that supposedly there was coordination between the trump campaign and the russians for which i've seen no substantiation. but it continues on and on and on that that's the reason why we need a select committee to clear this whole issue up. >> and in london, police make
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anti-terror arrests and parliament is back to work. >> we are not afraid. and our resolve will never waiver in the face of terrorism. and we meet here in the oldest of all parliaments because we know that democracy and the values it entails will always prevail. >> but we begin and likely will spend most of this hour on a defining day and defining test for the president and the new all-republican washington. the house is set to vote on a plan to repeal and replace obamacare. it's priority one for the gop and yet the outcome is uncertain. >> i don't know why we ought to be rewriting the entire bill just in order to cajole a few people to come along. we had to go back to the drawing board and come up with free market solution. part of being a governing party means putting forward legislation that members of our own party can vote for while
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maintaining their campaign promises. i'd encourage all within the sound of my voice, all of my friends in the house of representatives who were on the fence on this one. just vote no. we'll still get it repealed but actually repealed. this bill doesn't do that. >> interesting day to say the least. with us, the atlantic's ron brownstein, julia hirschfeld davis, dana bash and perry bacon of 538. president trump this hour is in a make or break meeting sitting down with house conservatives who are the biggest obstacle to passing that legislation to repeal and replace obamacare. it is hard to overstate the stakes here. the vote is scheduled for later today. it's scheduled for later today and defeat would not only undermine the young trump presidency but also the leadership of house speaker paul ryan and his key deputies. let's go to jeff zeleny at the white house. the president is in this meet with these members of the house freedom caucus. he's been trying for the past week-plus to get them to sign
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on. what's going to happen? >> he has, indeed. this is one of those final meetings. it's not open. this is a meeting he's having privately. we have a glimpse of what's happening in there because one of the president's aides sent out a picture showing a standing ovation. when the president was walking in. we don't know if they'll be leaving to a standing ovation. the reality is some of these white house meetings have been very successful on getting people on board. others have not been. and i am told by advisers here and republicans i'm talking to on capitol hill, we need to keep as much of a focus on the moderates as this house freedom caucus. the more changes made to this to sort of bring people on on the right is hurting people in the middle which we've seen happening all morning long here. no question this is the time for salesmanship and closing this deal. i'm told there's also a bit of confusion here with so many phone calls happening from all the top advisers saying slightly different things to different people here. it's one of the reasons they
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wanted to have them all in this same meeting in the same room here to discuss all this with the president. but still, even though the vote is scheduled for this evening, expected this evening, other republicans i'm talking to here and on capitol hill say they would nobt at all surprised if it was set aside or pushed back. that happens, that's a sign there is a big problem. john? >> that's an understatement to say the least. jeff zeleny at the white house. let's bring it into the room. house speaker paul ryan was supposed to speak to reporters this morning. he's delayed that until this afternoon. horse trading behind closed doors, wheeling and dealing, the very thing republicans criticize the democrats for doing when they passed obamacare but we'll put that aside for a second. what does this tell you that the president is meeting and gets a standing ovation from members of the house freedom caucus who at the moment you can make the case are undermining the president on priority number one because they won't accept what he thought was the plan early in the week. >> they are 100% undermining him
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and the question is whether they continue to do that to the point where the republican leadership is forced to cancel the vote. i had a senior republican on capitol hill say to me this morning, the president is now understanding what republican leaders in the house have been dealing with for the past, you know, eight years or so. >> john boehner somewhere is sitting and laughing. >> but -- and that the president and i'm told the president is incredibly frustrated. again, take a number, mr. president. this is the way republican leaders have felt for some time. and the reason is because, and we'll see what happens out of this meeting at the white house right now, is because they feel that the house freedom caucus is impossible to get to yes. that they keep moving the goal post and that they just -- basically don't want to do this. at the same time it's been more difficult to look the president
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in the eye or be on the other end of the cell phone when he keeps calling them saying i'm going to deny you and the republican leadership the chance to say we kept our promise. >> even if they get to yes, the process of getting to yes is creating so many more problems in the senate. >> since the republicans took over with newt gingrich, tom delay, even john boehne eusually they find a way to get it through the house by moving it to the right and they count on the moderates to buckle. this bill will be asking an awful lot of those senate moderates because the biggest argument against it before these latest changes was that it imposed an age tax. significantly raised premiums and out-of-pocket costs for working age adults now the core of the coalition. the changes at the liberty caucus is demanding make that worse. would add more out-of-pocket costs and also affect women by no longer having to provide guaranteed maternity benefits.
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buy them a la cart. they become unaffordable. are murkowski and collins going to be willing to vote for that. >> the moderates in the house. you move the bill to the right, it becomes a problem on the left. i've seen about 30 members opposed. 15 in the freedom caucus, about 15 outside of that. those people are on the left and the more changes you make in terms of maternity leave and things like that. we've seen four or five members on the left side of the party. they're voting no in the last couple of days. that's where the draining of votes is coming from. >> what is the president willing to do to get this done. this is the guy who said i can do this. i can cut these deals. even now the changes they've made so far. they'd already agreed to add a work requirement on medicaid. let states pick block grants for the medicaid funding if they wanted to. ban new states. 30-plus states have already expanded medicaid.
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repeal the obamacare taxes more quickly and set aside more funds for tax credits to deal with elderly people. members of the freedom caucus want more. they wanted more market based. they want to take out what's called essential health benefits. guaranteed maternity coverage and mental health coverage and prescription drug coverage, guaranteed emergency services. you look at the house right there. the president promised in the campaign to keep a lot of those things. is he going to sign off on a house bill -- to keep the process moving, is he going to sign -- i will support something that violates my promises? >> i think at the beginning of the week, the answer was clearly no. the white house knew the freedom caucus wanted these things and basically was telling them, we can't do that for a number of reasons. procedural reasons. the bill could lose reck sill yagss protection. but he made the promises you laid out on the campaign trail. he has styled himself a closer. he is the master dealmaker. he wants to be able to do this big negotiation and come out
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with a win. but he doesn't have a lot more he can offer them and still hold to what he said during the campaign. we're on what was supposed to be the day of the vote. we've seen these things play out before. a lot of horse trading. small details. but what they are debating here is the fundamental question of whether the federal government should be dictating what kind of insurance benefits people have or not. and that is the fundamental question that lies at the whole root of this debate. they are actually having this debate at the white house hours before -- >> and the man cutting the deal, the closer, is a nonideological republican president who promised many things during the campaign that gives conservatives fits. is he willing to change? you spent a lot of time on capitol hill. if paul ryan has to pull this bill today, what does that say? and for those of you at home, apologies for washington speak but they're trying to do this under reconciliation. the reason they can't do everything is that the senate rules they believe won't allow that. the house is trying to do part
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of this. what does it say for the speaker if he has to, as speaker boehner did before him, has to pull this? >> it's very, very bad for his leadership. it's very bad, again, not just for the president but for paul ryan. there's no question about it. >> is it bad also for tax reform and for everything else down the road? >> i was just going to saiy, it is also entirely possible that's going to happen, that he is going to have to pull the bill unless the president can seal some kind of deal with this bloc of freedom caucus members who are there right now. but what does that mean? let's just take this hypothetical down the road here. if he has to pull the bill, it is possible that it -- probable that they'll turn to tax reform. and i actually think something like tax reform could be more of a consensus builder for republicans. could be. could be. >> one big exception, though. the import adjustment. >> no question. >> they could have the same dynamic. >> no question, they could.
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but it's not as personal for these constituents. and health care is about as personal as it gets when you talk about legislation that affects me. that affects people -- >> would the freedom caucus be team players once obama was out of the presidency? sounds like they're behaving the exact same way they were before. that's important -- >> the question is the model they're establishing. if the price of getting it out of the house is adding provisions that make it almost impossible to pass the senate, even if they do pass it in the next several days, have they created a precedent that's valuable or damaging? >> can i just answer your question in one other way as well about paul ryan's leadership? there already has been a lot of second-guessing about the way he approached this from the beginning. basically for a lot of conservatives, he compromised and negotiated with himself. this has already been too moderate. that he should have, knowing the freedom cacaucus, knowing the w has republicans are, started further to the right knowing
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that when he gets to the senate it's going to have to be moderated and even more so and that many members of the freedom caucus understand that. that they are already starting, from their perspective, way too far to the middle. >> the congressional budget offers said would remove health insurance for 24 million people and they may vote before having a final estimate on this bill, which likely would be even higher and would have higher out-of-pocket costs for those older working age adults. a majority of votes came from whites over 45. three-quarters of all people in the country over 45 are white. these are republican voters who would be the big losers in this shift of risk and cost that is inherent in the deregulation in this bill. >> we'll come back to this later. we are keeping an eye on this meeting. someone else has his phone or he's taking a break. he just tweeted out, we're going to pass this. contact your representatives. the president is asking for your help, even as he's in this key
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welcome back. this hour yesterday, central london was locked down, paralyzed by a terror attack. four people were killed including one american. a man from utah. today, prime minister theresa may honored the victims and preached a message of defiance. >> yesterday an act of terrorism tried to silence our democracy. today we meet as normal. as generations have done before us and as future generations will continue to do. to deliver a simple message. we are not afraid. >> we're also learning isis now claiming that one of its soldiers is responsible for the rampage. nick paton walsh is live at the scene. police have just identified the
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suspect. what do we know about him? >> reporter: his name is khalid masood, according to scotland yard, london's police force. he's 52 and lived in the west midlands where the focus of their arrests were. a key city here in the united kingdom. and a man with a record of petty crime, of violence, which may perhaps explain some of idiotically violent rampage that began here just over 24 hours ago when he took a car he had rented up onto the pavement here, a hyundai, and plowed into 40 people who received injuries. it's here that two of his victims, two of his three victims lost their lives. one of them kurt cochran, a man from utah here on his 23rd anniversary with his wife. she's in the hospital with a broken leg and injuries to her face. one tragic loss of life there which president trump has called the loss of a great american. and another individual, a
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spanish teacher age 43, aysha aysha frade. a large collection of tourists, people just coming to see this big ben, a key london landmark attached to the heart of the british democracy and government near the houses of parliament. now this is a scene where life will be permanently altered for those who come past here on the way to work as part of an everyday routine but also today, too, as life gets back to normal. tourists, some of them oblivious to what happened here 24 hours ago. but the car continues down the road, 24 hours ago, into the railings and then went around the corner. tried to get in to the courtyard of parliament and stabbed to death keith palmer who gave his life trying to defend the houses of parliament here. often we have no idea if they had any prior knowledge at all.
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just trying to -- to this sick crime. let's bring the conversation back here. tell me if you are struck as i was, by the demeanor of our president yesterday, president trump who in the past where it's san bernardino, orlando or nice or brussels, has sent out tweets essentially saying, i told you so. we need to get tough, be tougher. very reserved yesterday. sent out a tweet. i spoke to theresa may today to offer condolences on the terrorist attack in london. she is strong and doing very well. the president being very measured there and we're told by sources that after a conversation with his new national security adviser, h.r. mcmaster who briefed him on what they knew and gave him a message, mr. president, at this moment let's try to keep it calm. don't put things out there. it was different, yes? >> it was striking. he was very quiet yesterday. they put out a read-out of his call with theresa may. he was just beginning a meeting when they got news of the attack. he made a very glancing reference to it. some news out of london and did
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not take the opportunity to talk about radical islamic terrorism or this is why we need to get tough or this is why we need my travel ban. it was very muted and what we learned later he's been talking to his national security adviser about this, i think that that's probably the reason why. they also hadn't learned a whole hell of a lot by the time -- >> that hasn't stopped him before. >> that has not stopped him before. that's a striking contrast. >> that look felt like a tweet that may have been written by someone else. the staff. may have felt like a staff tweet as opposed to the tap with two ps in the middle of the night. we're probably going to see a presidency that goes back and forth and any time you look you've turned the corner and have a restrained donald trump as president, you know, a few hours later you'll have something else. >> his son acted differently. donald trump jr. tweeting an old article from the london mayor, a muslim, from september 22, 2016
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in which the mayor said if you live in a big urban area like this. donald trump tweeted out, you have to be kidding. terror attacks are part of living in a big city, says london mayor. the mayor has said i've got more important things to do. >> he quoted the mayor out of context. not to say the way donald trump jr. said. and on day one, donald trump the president behaved differently but i would be curious when the muslim ban conversation comes back, does he start invoking london. the muslim ban grew out of the french attacks in the first place. that was his justification. day one he behaved in a traditional way. i'll be curious if we're talking about the muslim ban, he's defending it, on stage some way next week and invokes it in a way a lot of people don't support. >> he's someone who generally likes to tweet about things he sees. obviously we've seen going back way before he was a candidate some of the really bizarre things he decided to comment on. but with regard to yesterday,
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i'm not saying he hasn't learned a lesson and he's not going to be presidential on big moments like this, but he also was a little distracted with trying to say that he was vindicated, which he was not by the house intelligence chair and trying to get his first important critical piece of legislation passed. >> to donald trump jr., maybe focus on the business and stay out of politics? >> international relations? >> everybody sit tight. up next, new cnn reporting on the fbi's russian election probe. and trump says he's been somewhat vindicated. is that right? ...allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. it's good to be in, good hands. the kind of deep sleepnt. i can only get on my tempur-pedic. it adapts to me. my shape, my size, my body.
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they say it proved yesterday he's more interested in protecting president trump than following the facts. >> the chairman will need to decide whether he is the chairman of an independent investigation into conduct which includes allegations of potential coordination between the trump campaign and the russians or he is going to act as a surrogate of the white house because he cannot do both. >> more on that wrinkle and the fallout in a moment. important new cnn reporting on what the fbi director this week confirmed is an investigation into the possibility associates of then candidate donald trump coordinated with russian operatives last year just as the kremlin leaked hacked e-mails from the democratic national committee and from hillary clinton's campaign chairman. several sources familiar with the investigation tell cnn the fbi has not concluded there was collusion but has gathered evidence suggesting such coordination may have taken place. justice correspondent evan perez helped break this story and joins us now to lay it out.
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what information do investigators have that make them believe there may have been some collusion or coordination as the fbi director put it in his public testimony this week? >> john, u.s. officials tell cnn that the fbi has information that includes human intelligence, travel, business and phone records and accounts of in-person meetings that this information is raising the suspicions of the fbi counterintelligence investigators. and one law enforcement official said that the information suggests people connected to the campaign were in contact and it appeared that they were giving the thumbs up to release information when it was ready. that said, there were other officials we spoke to who said it's premature to draw that inference from the information that's been gathered so far since it's largely circumstantial. the bottom line is that the fbi cannot yet prove that collusion actually took place, but the information suggesting collusion is now the focus of this investigation. i should note the fbi would not comment for this story, nor would the white house.
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trump officials have denied that there's any evidence of collusion, john. >> that they have. we should make that clear. they have denied any collusion. they have said they will be proven right. do we know at this point who is being investigated? >> we don't know exactly who is connected -- who is connected to trump that's being investigated for possible coordination. but we do know that the fbi has already been investigating four -- at least four former trump campaign associates, michael flynn, paul manafort, roger stone and carter page for contacts with russians that are known to u.s. intelligence. now all four of these men have denied improper contacts. and one of the interesting things here is that the fbi is running into some obstacles in trying to find any conclusive intelligence that communications between trump's associates and russians was meant for coordination. some of that communication that the fbi knew about has ceased in recent months given the focus on russia's ties to the trump campaign. and also some of the officials
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at the fbi was keeping an eye on has changed their methods of communications making it that much more difficult for the fbi investigators. >> evan perez, fascinating investigating. it's clear from the fbi director's public testimony that he admitted and acknowledged the investigation included possible -- possible urk, under possible coordination. if you thought this was going to go away quickly, no. >> the quote from the law enforcement official that evan reported was the finish line, i think, in the worst case scenario for republicans as this story has developed. they're not there yet, obviously, as he said. they've not yet proven this. but the fact they have enough evidence to -- that someone with knowledge said something that strong about circumstantial evidence or even more than --
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adam schiff said morthan circumstantial, pointed to collusi collusion. we're talking about the stakes raising very quickly. in other scandals in my adult lifetime in washington, things often move forward when individuals begin to face possible legal jeopardy and have to make choices about what they're going to say in congressional testimony or to federal investigators and the fact that there are specific individuals that they were citing as being the areas of focus of this investigation means that things could happen potentially to move this forward more rapidly than seems possible. >> and as this plays out, the fbi investigation, which as you can tell by evan's choice of words there. we're being very kaurful about what we know and don't know. the fbi clearly has evidence, travel records, other documents, phone calls, scheduled meetings that lead them to believe this is something they need to explore. as that plays out, the fbi director was quite clear, i don't know how long this is going to take. we have intelligence committee investigations and the head of the house intelligence committee caused a bit of a stir
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yesterday. devin nunes reviewed some intelligence that showed him that members of the trump transition team were under some form of surveillance. he said it was incidental meaning that someone was legally under surveillance, had a conversation with the trump transition. devin nunes said that he believed it had nothing to do with russia, nothing to do with the issue under investigation by his committee at the moment. today he came out from a meeting. the democrats were mad about this. devin nunes took that information and talked to reporters and then went to the president of the united states and briefed him on information before he talked to any other members of the committee. republicans and the ranking democrat. devin nunes emerged from a meeting this morning saying that was his judgment call. >> it was a judgment call on my part. and that's at the end of the day, sometimes you make the right decisions. sometimes you make the wrong one but you have to stick by the decisions you make. >> and here before we jump into the politics of this and the fascinating part of this. here's what he said yesterday. he's the chairman of what is
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supposed to be an independent investigation of possible inappropriate activity by associates of the president of the united states. that's what they're investigating. here's what he -- why he said he went to the white house. >> because what i saw is -- has nothing to do with russia and nothing to do with the russia investigation. has everything to do with possible surveillance activities, and the president needs to know these intelligence reports are out there. i have a duty to tell him that. >> does he have a duty to tell him that? >> no, he doesn't. that's not his job at all. the duty when it comes to the president is from the intelligence community. now the cia director, the director of intelligence and so forth. what the duty of the house and senate intelligence committees are is oversight of those communities. it is not to be the person to keep the president inform. he's got an entire intelligence apparatus to do that.
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one thing i want to add to the reporting here is that now he's saying he made a judgment call. i'm told that before he went out to do his initial press conference, first he talked to reporters on the hill and went to brief the president and then came out and talked in that clip he just showed that he was actually very upset, steaming mad about whatever he said he saw or was told about. and that at the time, there were members of the committee, republican members of the committee, trying to calm him down saying a couple of things. don't go out and do a press conference about this. this is going to throw the entire investigation about russia in the garbage, basically. and don't you want to talk to adam schiff, the top democrat before you do this? he was so mad, he said no. and one of the reasons i'm told by a source familiar with this meeting is because he said adam schiff at the hearing on monday, where they had james comey, had a 15-minute monologue trying to connect dots that weren't there and he was upset about that.
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but it's pretty clear in what he said today that he realizes now that he's calm that he probably should have heeded the advice of those republicans. >> like your mother told you, count to ten. >> not only is this not his role as the intelligence committee chairman but particularly when this investigation is going on. the fact that he came out and did this now taints the investigation which is what adam schiff came out and said. so it only amplifies those calls for an independent investigation, a select committee or even a committee outside of congress to really look more deeply into this. and that is something that president trump doesn't want. and so to the degree, if devin nunes thought this was going to help the president by refuting some of what's been out there, i think it's only done the opposite. >> he has a legitimate concern that the intelligence committee is too quick to unmask people. you speak to somebody overseas being monitored and get cat up that your name should not be put in an intelligence report and moved around. he has a legitimate concern about that. but by running to the president,
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he looks like a partisan, a defender of the president, not an independent chairman of an important investigation. >> apparently no one else has seen the actual evidence. >> republicans or democrats. >> either side. >> and adam schiff yesterday contradicted what the chairman said. he said that people were not unmasked but it was possible to tell who they were from the descriptions. so there's a lot that we don't know and that members of the intelligence committee don't know, but i think julie is right. the biggest point is that investigation has now been, i think, permanently clouded and does raise the question. if the senate intelligence committee is not able to credibly do this, then who will be able? >> the fbi. >> the fbi. >> the fbi, but if you go back to past investigations, these are not apples and apples, but you have the law enforcement investigation continue there and then the congressional investigation usually to sort of inform the american people that the criminal investigations or law enforcement investigations deal with were there crimes committed and what can we filter through the classification
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process and inform the american people in a democracy about what happened. if those are compromised, democrats will say let's have an independent investigation. >> john mccain is -- >> i think we're getting a little beyond -- >> select committee. >> we'll see. john mccain is a lonely voice still on that issue. we'll see how this one plays out. next, let's make a deal. the president trying as we speak to win the votes necessary to get a big health care bill through the house. but are the concessions dooming its chances over in the senate? be right back. . ...just go to bed." new aveeno®... ...positively radiant® overnight facial. get the benefits of a spa facial... ...overnight. aveeno®. "naturally beautiful results®" dearthere's no other way to say this. it's over. i've found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden,
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closed meeting trying to cut the deal to get the votes necessary to get the legislation through the house today. that would be step one. it would then have to go to the senate. before this private meet, the president taking to twitter this morning to send a video out hoping his supporters will pick up the phone and help him get the votes. >> you were told that you could keep your plan and keep your doctor. you were given many, many false stories. the fact is you were given many lies. go with our plan. it's going to be terrific. you're going to be very, very happy. call your local representative. call your senator. let them know that you're behind our plan. >> it's an interesting test. we have not seen the president, both the inside and outside game. he's in the room right now trying to twist arms and get a deal. how much will he give? members are also learning how much can we get out of him? and then there's the outside game. can he get his supporters to
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pick up the phone? to call these members and say, hey, be with the president. >> a lot of republicans who have come out this week as no have cited the fact i'm getting 400 calls no for every two calls yes. they know that their constituents do not feel good about this bill and that's why it's losing support. somebody at the white house has, obviously, told the president that it's important that these members hear not just from you that they need to vote for it but also from their constituents. he did go to the hill and sort of threaten them earlier this week saying it's your political hydes on the line if this thing goes down. this is his way of demonstrating that. >> stranger things upside down about this is the members giving him the most trouble are the ones he theoretically has the most leverage over. freedom caucus is from districts he was strongest. it's really the people on the other side of the caucus that should be the most -- 23 house republicans in districts that hillary clinton carried looking at a bill that according to quinnipiac today, 17% of college whites, 18% millennials and 10%
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of nonwhites support. and among independents -- and among 50 to 64-year-old age group, the group most in the crosshairs of the insurance changes, 62% opposition. y the focus on the freedom caucus and their concerns is front and center but you have to wonder how far many of these more moderate members will go given the reaction to this bill. >> the president is trying to get it over hurdle nem ber one, them number two in the senate. a lot of people don't like this bill. they know it's going to change something and rip the floor out from under them. the president's own standing in that quinnipiac poll. 37% approval. 56% disapprove. among republicans, he is at 81% support among republicans. that's good, but it's down from 91% two weeks ago. so that, if you are the president, and you didn't win the popular vote and you know your coalition is to keep your base together, if you are donald trump and his political team you
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have to look at that number and say, whoa, we need a win. >> big time. more importantly, they can't afford to lose. and a lose of such monumental proportion as the key promise that swept republicans into -- into the mairmgity in the house starting back in the tea party, you know, fight of 2010 and then on and on and on until the white house now. obviously there were lots of other factors but the promise to do this was front and center. the problem is that you have, as we were talking about the freedom caucus who were in the white house right now, then you have ileana rossalaten in from south florida. i saw her yesterday. any chance you can change? no. the only regret she has is that she can only vote no once because she's so much opposed to this. and because she's hearing it from her constituents. >> isn't the complication here, obviously, losing would be devastating, something they promised for so long. but this is so -- winning has its own problems because in
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substance, this is so against the brand that he has established. a different kind of republican. going to protect programs that protect older working age adults. put out a budget and say we'll exempt medicare and social security. focus all the cuts on discretionary spending and come back with a health care bill that hammers the same people you say you are protecting and are protecting in your budget. how does that add up? this bill is like kind of more of an -- in the end, more of a ryan, house republican, small government than the bannon-esque redesign of the party. >> usually a first year president gets something db. clinton, the budget, obama got the systemus done. you have a president here with low ratings and he's selling a bill that's really unpopular among everyone so those two things make it hard. if he was popular itself, he could sell it. those two combined make this hard to happen. >> the republican party has changed a lot in ten years. this is the first chance they've had to govern and have a
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greatest misses. he suggests you skip the fact check because, quote, i can't be doing so badly because i'm president and you're not. that is one indisputable fact. he is president. you are not. as for the rest of the interview, good luck finding facts. they detailed 14 statements made by the president in the "time" interview that were demonstrably false. this was a conversation about truth telling. its highest or lowest award was bestowed, four pinocchios. but remember, he's the president and you're not. you have to focus on -- everyone here has read it. anyone at home, please go online and read it. >> before we talk about the substance, talk about yet another example of the president being obsessed with "saturday night live." from generation or two ago, chevy chase. carry on. >> you know, i -- i'm going to name check two of your
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colleagues. i remember a classic tom friedman, maureen dowd "new york times" cover story about the contentious jim baker/george h.w. bush relationship. george h.w., they quoted him as saying, if you are so smart, how come i'm president. so it may be something that infects once you get into the oval office. >> part of the briefing on day one. >> absolutely. >> we can laugh about it and this was a remarkable interview in a lot of ways. the thing that strikes me is this idea of i'm president and this enables me to say basically whatever i want to say, this lies at the heart of the credibility issue for mr. trump because his view is for all of these months on the campaign trail, he would say things that were demonstrably false and we'd do fact checks and he'd say them again. unlike other candidates, he'd not back down from things when it was demonstrated they were false. he kept on winning primaries and then won the general election. there's a core sense he has that
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it means that people don't care if it's true or not. they just want to hear me own what i think and he talked about himself as an instinctual person and that's what people like about me and he has no apology for that. >> i'm ap instinctual person but it turns out to be right. >> i'm amazed in a week like this that donald j. trump, that article about truth telling. was he going to prove to "time" that he's right and they're wrong? a very strange decision. >> he knew he was going to be on the cover and he wanted -- therefore, he wanted to be in the story and say he has the record for covers, except -- >> "snl" lifetime magazine. like us and yours, "new york times." >> i mean, a lot of elements of his agenda controversial right now. but the reason he's so much lower in poll opinion is mostly about personal characteristic. 60% of that quinnipiac poll said he was not honest. he's like passing his former opponent in the campaign.
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hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. in washington. 5:00 p.m. in london. from wherever you're watching, thanks for joining us. the political drama that's playing out minute by minute here in washington. after years of vowing to repeal and replace obamacare, can republicans finally deliver, or will they come up short? right now, we don't even know when the vote on the house floor will take place or what is even in the latest version of the bill. the scramble by house republicans to pass their health care bill will be a major focus of
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