good evening from washington. thanks for joins us on the anniversary of the, fo affordab care act. a deadline is set where house republicans have been trying to reconcile two opposing factions and one the freedom caucus and one the coverage in the bill and the moderates asking for more.

will they merge with a deal vote on by tomorrow or will tomorrow end like today with no vote and no agreement. most in that room ran on a promise of repealing and replacing the affordable care act. whether you call it trump care, ryan care or gop care, so are the lives and well being of millions of americans, people who vote. if that were not great enough, they just finished comparing the original bill with the revised version and leaves just as many americans with less than half the budget savings. dana bash is there to start us off. this is essentially called a make or break meeting. what is happening? >> it's unclear if they have the

votes and they will roll the dies and hope that pressure enough people on the fence or naysayers. this is what i'm told the budget director and the former member of the freedom caucus is conservative that forms the people who are forming out. they told the people behind me that the president wants a vote tomorrow and is moving on after this vote regardless of what happens. this is a source in the room telling me this. they said if it didn't get done tomorrow, the president said he is moving on and they will be stuck with obamacare. that is an ultimatum that the white house is giving to their fellow republicans in the house, trying to push this along. in addition this, steve bannon, the chief counsellor told me on the way out, he and the white house chief of staff were also in the meeting. bannon said the same thing. he wants a vote and there will be a vote tomorrow and he is

confident that will be successful at the end of the day. chris collins who is a member of the house who has been a long time ally, he came out of this meeting which is not yet wrapped up saying the plan is to have a procedural vote and tomorrow afternoon the actual vote, echoing the notion that the white house is trying to put forward. this has to be done and they have to get the votes and they will basic put it on the table and the floor to hope that it happens. in the meantime, with the hold outs, the head of the freedom caucus, mark meadows said the president wants to vote, but he has not gotten to yes yet. i said what does that mean? can you get to yes by tomorrow because the president and allies

are saying negotiations are over. he said it's not over until the vote happens. we will see if there are last minute changes but it doesn't sound like they are going to happen. they have given enough, a major concession from their point of view that they will try to do the repeal of the essential benefits in obamacare on the front end which is what the conservatives were asking for and the idea of other concessions that they are asking for, they will have to wait. >> the ultimateiment has been issued by the white house. we are done dealing and it's time to vote. let's go to the white house now. they are computing confidence that this health bill would pass earlier today before things took a turn. >> they were hoping for a vote and the president has done a lot of attempts at persuading

moderates and conservatives. listen to what sean spicer said earlier. take a listen. >> we are not seeing people falloff. we are seeing people come on board. that's a great trajectory. that's going to pass. that's it. >> obviously the vote did not go their way this evening. they had to postpone it, but the reality is they did not have the numbers they needed to get it through the house. they were trying to get it through. they want to see a vote on this tomorrow and feel like the president has done a lot of personal outreach and said last night he was up to 11:00 p.m. and making calls to members to sway them into backing this. it's clear that he is kind of putting his reputation as a deal maker on the line. >> thanks very much. we will check in with you throughout the next two hours.

john king and pot cast host, david axelrod know what is this is like and chief political analyst and trump reporter and contributor jeffrey lord. obama communications director and senator and republican candidate rick santorum. anyone else? we have got dana bash and sarah murray. we have two hours. postponing the vote is not the same as losing. this is not where they wanted to be, but they could get there. author. >> this happened under democratic votes. take a deep breath. no question it's crunch time for the president and speaker paul ryan. if you pass this or you are stuck with obamacare, that's spin, but they need to spin it that bay. they said to the president you have to say we are done.

thank you for your help and negotiating, but if the door is open to talk, we are never going to get this done. they had a problem with conservative members. you are a yes? we will give you this. they are moving the goal post. now we will see if they succeed. it is a defining test for the president for up to today for all the praise, the conservatives who donald trump carried the direct with 60%, they gave a standing ovation and it's great to be involved. and that's not saying the president has failed, but up to this point, they have been trying to get it to the finish line. we shall see. >> they were wrong about the numbers on obamacare.

>> the new number numbers are not going to help. it's not going to help them make their case. at this point the white house has had it. i spoke with the adviser this afternoon who said to me we are having an extra stop. the president is really frustrated. these are not the negotiations he is used to. he is shaking hands and other people working out the details. this is not the way it works with members. the members are not really great and i think that the deficit is about half from what it was estimated at. they reached a point at the white house where they understand they are playing whack a mole here. >> your perspective having lived through this in the obama white house. >> sometimes you have to force the issue. part is being able to walk away and force people to confront

what is in front of them. the other thing is people will negotiate you to death. i know k mart is in the news lately. you have to turn the blue light off and say we are done now. there are no specials here. you have to make a decision. i think they are doing the smart thing in trying to force the issue. the thing is if you walk away from the table and say this is it, you have to be willing to live with it. i will say this. when they say no more negotiation, rick santorum knows this and he spent a lot of time in congress. it's open until the final gavel falls on the vote. i suspect there will be a lot of horse trading and discussion and not just on the bill, but around other issues between now and the time of the final vote to try to wrestle those votes to the ground. >> i don't think k mart is the brand that donald trump ever

aspired to meet. >> that's an important point. i talked to several members of congress who have gone from no to yes not because of anything in the bill. >> what made them go from no to yes? >> because of reconciliation and the rule in the senate. they have a promise. something has to pass and they will make it pass. david a point is a good one. this kind of deal making in this stage is kind of one to one. each member saying what do you need and what are you looking for? that's how it's not just talking to freedom caucus. >> there is a freedom caucus and looking at the broader context. that's over.

that's not happening. >> i think they have dramatically improved this bill and done a great job and doing what they should have done in the first place. they should put a conservative bill forward. they will move back to the middle and moderates know that. they will hold their nose and cross their knees and vote for this. >> i talked to one member the last couple of days who was a note vote as of yesterday. we voted on a replacement in 2015 and it passed. everybody voted for it. why not put that forward? >> the reason is because you can't just undo the system and not put anything else in place. obamacare fundamentally transformed health care and you can't just pull it out. >> the reason is when they cast that vote, they didn't mean

anything. >> they are going to veto it and it means something. what the president is saying to these freedom caucus members is i'm calling the question and you have to decide whether you want to be the ones who repeal and replace. we had to do things that we don't like, but the senate is not going to allow that. the goal is to keep this thing moving. >> we have an unconventional republican president that would not be in the repeal and replace bill if any of the other republicans had won. >> this is the first step in the process. the fact that they are irritated tells you a lot because they have to go to the senate. it will be more moderate and things will be pulled out that are satisfying the freedom caucus and it will come back to the house. this is a long process. if trump and his team are irritated and already had enough, it's not going to his

desk. tomorrow is the easiest part of this process. >> when you read donald trump and by that read his books, walking away from the table is of the things that he emphasizes. you have to say that's it. i'm out of here. i think that's the message he is delivering. >> the most important thing is the quinnipiac report. the fact that republicans say they disapprove of this and overall it's 57% disapprove. republicans say it is important to have affordable health care for all. by a substantial margin. 69%. i think you have to look at what's happening with these members. if you break up the 24 million people uninsured by district, it's about 55,000 per district. those are faces and people who will be affected and all of them show up at a town hall.

>> if we pass laws that comported, our economy would look like the soviet union. >> here we go. >> i have several texts from folks. it's the most emotional conference they have been at and the moot is experienced. >> that was still a no vote. republicans on the fate of the bill. we will take a break first. an unlimited data plan is only as good as the network it's on. and verizon has been ranked number one for the 7th time in a row by rootmetrics. (man) hey, uh, what's rootmetrics? it's the nation's largest independent study and it ranked verizon #1 in call, text, data, speed and reliability.

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>> leonard lance was in a meeting and how did it go and are you still a no vote? >> i am a no vote and i was concerned about the premiums and the cvo score that came out. i think that the democrats should come to the table because the exchanges are not in good shape. largely in rural america. i hope that they have a program that needs significant reform. >> this will be brought to a vote tomorrow. >> it's my understanding that there will be a vote tomorrow. >> they're had been swinging back and forth. signing on to moderate members like you. they have been unable to find a middle ground. do you think it exists?

>> i think that all of us think there should be legislation encouraging policies across state lines, tort reform and savings accounts. that is phase three. i would like to see that be phase one. >> i talked to some member who is believe that if this does pass there won't be a phase two or a phase three. this was just one. that does not complete the task. the task needs to be completed. i think democrats should be willing to come to the table and i urge them to do so. >> i want to bring in gloria borger. >> all republicans ran on

repealing and replacing obamacare. if you vote no and this doesn't pass, what are you going to go back to your constituents and say? you are giving the president a major loss should the vote go your way. >> i think i ran on not only repealing, but replacing. i define that in my campaigns and too often in this town we say who is up and who is down. who is winning and losing. i think we should come together and i think that can occur. that will require cooperation. >> that's not what you said when you ran, i bet. as republicans, we are going to repeal it and replace it. if that doesn't happen, don't your voters have every right to say you didn't keep your promise? >> i don't think this replaces the system. this is only the first phase. i think we need to do both simultaneously and i'm concerned with getting to phase three chi

think should be phase one. >> congressman, i applaud your interest, but you know the reality that that's not going to happen. there was as much interest cooperating with the republicans and doing it through reconciliation and told the democrats we are going to get 51 votes. two questions. the first is, is this bill that you discussed tonight better than the bill of a week ago from your perspective. has the president helped or hurt? what happens tomorrow if the voters playing out on the floor and rolling the dies and they or two short. can they come to you and say look, you understand the senate will move it back and i need your vote. push it forward. >> i am a no and my leadership knows that. i think that we have to move forward recognizing that i want to get to substantive reform as quickly as possible. >> you are saying that the bill

the speaker of the house will bring to the floor tomorrow and the president's team said he supports is not substantive health care reform. >> i don't think it goes far enough and i'm concerned about the provision that may have been added regarding essential health benefits. i favor that provision. i think there has been movement in that area that i do not favor. >> just so we are clear, to the earlier question in terms of the changes to the bill that you have seen and you think it hurt the bill more. >> it's not my view. my views are based on the views of my constituents. >> a lot more ahead as we are learning how it came about.

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away from the house republican members as tonight's health care meetings wrapped up. cnn's dana bash. what have you heard? >> i want to report to you something that phil madingly was told with direct knowledge of the strategy. he was told this came from the white house. the white house said the plan they thought to go forward was to try to grind them down. accident the 1 serve aticonservt came out of private conversations with white house aides as well as aides here and the president. this is interesting. i should note that gloria borger was hearing this notion from the white house earlier. it's interesting in that i would say an hour ago i was talking to

top republicans here on capitol hill who were reluctant to acknowledge they wanted to do and effectively give the ultimateiment they gave tonight and they were reluctant because they gave the republican leaders down this road so many times before president trump got to the white house. that was why they were convinced by the white house to say yes, to go ahead with this ultimateiment. the stakes are high. they couldn't be any higher and that was how they framed it behind closed doors. if they don't go ahead, it will be obamacare and it will be on them. >> can you.

>> i am in the pacement of the capital and where they are meeting. that's going on and the speaker is there that's where he made his statement and where the speaker gave their strategy. the white house team was here as well. they want their voices heard. i heard him talking about what he is hearing and i am hearing the standing and the applause from outside the room and standing ovations are going on outside. so far nobody has stood up at

the mikes and said they are opposed to the strategy. even though people who like to talk in the meetings and say they are opposed to things they have not done so yet. >> how would that play out. that's in the morning and people talk about it. how would the day play. >> tonight they have a vote that would allow them to bring it up quickly. they will have another vote in the morning. they planned to do it around 10:00 and the vote to pass this is scheduled at this point to happen sometime in the afternoon. one of the early allies said it will be and done. major vote that includes some of

the changes that the house freedom caucus demanded and got. the key change is those essential benefits that are under obamacare that were supposed to be under the strategy repealed in the third phase of this republican strategy that they are going to move it up to put it in this bill they will try to pass tomorrow. you expecting when people come out of the meeting that they will be talking to reporters and making a statement? >> we don't know. i'm trying to find out if the leadership will make a statement. talking to us here and there as they have been exiting. we don't know if there is going to be a formal statement. it may not happen because they will run up to get the vote going as it gets linked. >> so many folks, they will block him anyway. they will say something. we will continue to check in with you a bit more at the white house going into this.

failure is not an option. >> how confident are you that this will pass? is there a plan b? >> we are going to get this done. we are not looking at a plan b. plan a is going to pass. >> you said only plan a. >> right. >> is there an acknowledgement that there needs to be a plan b? >> no. the plan is to pass it tonight and get it on to the senate and that's the president's plan. is there a plan if the bill doesn't pass tonight? >> it's going to pass. that's it. >> no plan b. >> the idea is to go on there. >> they are looking grind

members. remember what we are here to it. what that mean in terms of trying to convince folks in the final. they call them up. >> doing what they are doing. >> they are hearing this from everybody i talked to. that is rally people. this is important for our country and the attitude we are seeing. it's not grinding that is going on right now. the procedural vote, this will be an interesting vote that will pass because members vote for procedural votes. you will get a sense of the folks who are really mad. they will vote in many cases on the other side. you get a sense of the core

anger that republicans have at this vote. if it's not many, very good sign. >> i'm sure general members from seven years ago in the inner play between the house and the senate and the bouncing of bills back and forth and the house was accepting a bill that they were unhappy with and did feel they were generous enough to include a public option. they concluded it was the last vote and people needed to jump on. >> if you are going to get something done on a major initiative, there are always going to be people that are unhappy. can you bring enough of them over and self preservation playing a role. >> there is a tweet from the white house and looking at it as everyone else is. that led to higher cost and fewer options will continue to get worse. we must repeal and replace. pass the bill.

>> he is trying to desert pressure with millions of twitter followers. it might help. you never know. the decision was made from trump or his aides or both of them. i got wind that they knew if they let this hang out there, you know what happens. the guys will go home and go home for break and go to their town hall meetings and be out of your control. you want to get a vote as soon as possible. strike while the iron is hot. whatever cliche you want. the more they hang out, the worse it would be for them. everybody has a problem with something. >> it's surprising to say they have no plan b. >> i hate to say this, but in a sense and to a degree. i hate to see it early. i don't think that's the way --

the idea if you want to see the president met with the people and of course we will continue and we believe they campaign and it's time. >> i have to go to dana. >> the members are leaving and we will try to get them to stop and we haven't been successful. >> can you stop and give us an idea of what is going? so far no luck. we are still trying. more coming. talk amongst yourself. >> that's very telling. remember don't get in the way of a television camera.

there is a reason for that. >> they are acting like a pack. >> let's go to dana. . >> you can tell us if you think this is going to pass tomorrow? >> i don't know. you a yes vote? >> i declare my opposition. >> because of the changes that has been made to please the conservatives? >> i was no before that, but that didn't help. >> what's your sense of the caucus and you have been here for a long time. you heard your former colleague and the director that gives an ultimatum. do you think that's going to work? >> that there is no more and they call the role and that will be that. >> can you give a guess? >> i can't honestly tell you it's going to pass.

you concerned about going back to your district saying i voted no about something that will repeal obamacare even though republicans have been promising for years? >> i thought we have to get it right and not get it fast. >> you feel comfortable that that will fly with your constituents? >> i hope so. >> thank you. back to you. i help the two pennsylvanians had the same thought. >> a lot of folks will not be happy tonight. >> not to give the president or his party to move the bill for the as imperfectly is not something a lot. >> they know the district a lot better than what you are saying. >> but he is in it and they are about to lose their health care. this is not all fun and games.

millions of people are going to potentially lose their health care. i don't know how the freedom caucus and the callus caucus can live with that. 54% of republicans like medicaid. this whole thing is an opportunity for us to say okay, okay, let me finish. too complicated, too many things happening. let's go the simple way and just have medicare for all. i'm willing to pay for it. >> the interview with lance earlier. the moderates is still no. >> the meeting in which a lot of them they want us to come

together and lower cost and protect. the lower income aging population and we have seen that. we have additional changes to medicate, particularly the help of the disabled. there were other considerations we have been able to work through. the difficulties have resulted in a better bill. >> you will be a yes? >> the inclination is good and strong. i have always had the habit of going through the deliberative process. >> what's your sense after being in the meeting with your conference of how you think it's going down tomorrow? >> some people have principaled

reasons to be against this. some people expressed that clearly. it was a family meeting and emotional and strong and intense. >> emotional in what way? >> people are trying to remain united together and be respectful and urge for a passage. if the current health care stands, we will see collapsing markets and escalating premiums. even though this may not be perfect, the ability and reason to act now is urgent. >> thank you, sir. >> and jeff is a conservative, but also a very, very orthodox catholic and the church not surprised that he is a

conservative and concerned about the poor, but it looks like we understand speaker ryan will be speaking in about two minutes. >> in listening to him, you can hear the choice that was being put to the members. it's either this bill or you are responsible for keeping obamacare. >> what's been happening over the last couple of days, changes have been made that made it significantly worse and a lot of people don't know what that means. a lot of democratic groups and the disabled for women will be explaining it. >> they want to have a vote. >> that's why. >> here's the political reality of this. we both know something about how difficult the health care issue is. these members are facing death by fire or death by hanging. if they don't vote for the president and the speaker and they don't keep their promise and repeal and replace whatevers that, they are subject to challenge in their primaries.

to those members who are in swing districts -- >> let's listen in. >> woor have been promising the american people to repeal and replace this broken law because it is collapsing and failing families. >> you have the vote? do you have the vote? do you have the vote? >> we're have to talk about elections matter. they do matter. house members voted for paul ryan. when they voted for paul ryan, many of them knew what they were going to get. paul ryan is a jack kemp, bill bennett republican. he is not a rand paul end of the spectrum. you are going to get a bill that is -- or a rick santorum republican. he is more towards the middle. he put a bill that was not what they would have put together that would be way out here knowing the house and the senate

would pull you back. he put a bill that he wanted closer to the middle and that caused all of this. >> is it a bill that reflects what president trump said during the campaign? >> this as i was saying earlier, this has the bones of almost every republican plan. it just has a little bit more moderate flesh to it. >> the point i was making is that the reality of this bill is going to be felt. it's going to have political consequences. the fact is that tens of millions of people will lose their insurance. premiums go up and not down. here's the reality of health reform of any kind of i remember a call i got who supported health reform and this member said just remember once this bill passes, you own everything

that happens in the health care system. every republican knows that. they have taken advantage of it for the last years and they are going to be subject to it. death by fire or death by hanging. there is not a good answer for republicans. >> we are in the middle chapter. if they get this through the house tomorrow, that is just step and it's clear tonight on the meeting that they don't have the moderates. to your point, he is hoping to vote for the second or third version. they want to say to their moderate district, i voted no because i think it was too harsh. they are hoping it sends the house back and they can campaign on voting yes. will the conservatives have the momentum to head in that direction and they will be counted on to get this over the finish line. if they do, the question is if the senate sends back a different bill will we have another vote?

>> what's different between now and years ago, republicans don't have the margin in the senate that democrats had seven years ago. it's even harder for them to find a consensus. >> you can believe that part of politics, a big part is the person to person contact reading to body language. what they just saw there is not a happy camper. he thinks things are not going in his direction. >> what's also different from years ago is that you are taking things away from people. you were giving them mental health coverage and maternity coverage and people got used to that. to your point about the people are going to learn what's in this. now you are taking away. covering topolitics, there are

conservatives. everyone wants as much coverage as they can get. even if you are conservative or ideologically conservative because they ran for election, people are not conservative when it comes to conserving for their children or mental health. >> addiction at this time in our history and where the greatest opioid crisis is. think about the mental health benefit and where the services are most needed. if i am a republican, i am concerned not about losing, but about winning. >> i couldn't disagree more. the republicans feel much more confident in the market and people's ability to buy the insurance they want. they are making them buy and pay a lot of money for. people want this and want that. someone is paying for it. americans are figuring out it's

them. >> because of the subsidiesubsi. >> who pays for the subsidies. >> we know under this bill. people doing very well. there is a trillion dollars of tax cuts for people who makeover $200,000 a year. we are giving tax breaks to take the benefits away from working people who needed the help. i don't think that's a good political equation. i appreciate the orthodoxy of the markets, but health care is not like a car or any other commodity. we made a decision and we are not going to let people die. the emergency rooms and all these areas. >> they are up and not down. giving people insurance is not the same as giving people health care. this is often interchanged among democrats. we are giving you health care. health insurance is not health care. there have been studies that people under medicaid had poorer

out comes than people without insurance. that's true. there are studies that show that. the bottom line is that we have a health care plan in place right now that is busting the budget that is overbudget and not hitting their targets on access and in a death spiral in state after state. >> you are spewing republican talking points. look at the kaiser family foundation which is the indicator of how this law is fared. premiums are less expensive and readmissions to hospitals have gone down. you are spirking. >> it has nothing to do with obamacare. >> since it was adopted, you have seen positive trends including the cost of health care >> then why is it so unpopular? >> if that is the index, then republicans have a big problem,

because this bill that is on the floor now is even less popular than the president's approval rating right now. >> nobody knows what's in this bill. all they know it's going to cost a lot of money and ininsure a lot of people. >> do the people voting for it know what's in the bill? >> that's been the hard part. they do know, and they're negotiating diligently. >> that was the argument under obamacare that democrats were voting for it without knowing. >> i think there's a pretty good knowledge of what's in this. >> if you take medicaid work requirements, it's something i'm sure that you're a fan of. >> absolutely. >> if you look at the details of that, 62% of people who are women who are not working are on -- sorry, on medicaid, 62% of the people who would benefit from it who are woman, wouldn't be able to get medicaid because they're not working right now.

i messed that up. what i'm trying to say is there are a lot of people who rely on this who don't know what's in this bill. it also requires that women who just had a child, if they're on medicaid, they're required to go back to work within 60 days. that's two months. as we start talking about the specifics in this bill before it goes to the senate, people are going to hate these pieces. it's going to be real to people. >> i haven't seen it, but i suspect the work requirements are similar to the work requirements in the welfare bill, and democrats voted for work requirements for those same groups of people that had -- my recollection was 60 days. democrats, they got -- bill clinton signed that bill. you tell me where the democrats have gone from saying we require people are going to take public benefits and you're able bodied that you should have to go to work. >> that's assuming all these people are lazy. >> i'm not saying lazy. welfare reform has been the most successful because there's time limits and a work requirement.

in 1997, it hasn't been raised since. not a state complains because we created innovation and an opportunity for people to have a system that gets people back to work as opposed to having them rely on welfare. >> you're talking about it in a way that isn't related to human beings who are experiencing getting health care taken away. >> don't tell me i don't know that. >> it's a different thing on health care. >> it is different, but the able bodied -- i'm not for time limits on medicaid, because a lot of the most expensive people on medicaid are seniors. you don't want to time limit seniors, but able bodied -- >> we have to take a quick break. more ahead as we continue to monitor late health care developments. let's take a break first. we'll be right back.

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all right. just a quick recap, house republicans just wrapped up a meeting hammering differences just moments ago, paul ryan said very little but here it is. >> we have been promising the

american people we will repeal and replace this broken law because it's collapsing and failing families, and tomorrow we're proceeding. >> you have the votes? do you have the votes? do you have the votes? >> no answer on whether or not they have the votes. speaker ryan just moments ago the meeting featured an ultimativity from the white house. referred to as a familiar tactic for a well known deal maker. >> i'm going to make the great deals. i am going to make great deals for our country. i've build an extraordinary business on relationships and deals that benefit all parties involved always. i make deals. i negotiate. >> everybody wants me to negotiate. that's what i'm known as, a negotiator. >> i'm so anxious to negotiate. >> nobody can out negotiate these deals. i will a make a great deal and lots of great deals. we don't make great deals anymore but we will once i become president. >> back now with the panel. how much -- i mean, clearly

president trump has been all in on this and he has been up on capitol hill and been putting the full weight of his office behind it. how much is riding on this for him? >> i mean, a lot. i mean, i don't want to say everything. 62 days into the presidency some people make the case everything, but the fact they issued an decision today, jeffrey is right and at some point the door is closed. we're not talking anymore because you'll never get a vote otherwise. this is a signature issue in the campaign. if you're saying, you know, fail, i will fail on my 63rd day in office i'm willing to have a failure and move on and i'm not going to come back and recover. it's a negotiating tactic. it's a test of many things. it's a test of him as a negotiator and again, he did help them get to this point and then the speaker and his own people said we have to stop because they will keep moving the goalpost. we'll see what happens tomorrow. again, tomorrow if they get it through the house is a victory for president trump and ryan. it is not a final victory. >> no, but it does -- >> there is a long way --

>> if he wins tomorrow, the headline will be trump wins. >> make no mistake about it. >> if he doesn't win, i don't think he or his twitter account will call it his failure. >> make no mistake the conservatives have forced concessions in the last ten days when we get to tax reform and trade, pick your issue, they will feel emboldened. >> if he loses, i'm the great dpoeshter. the it's a problem for him. it's his signature issue. it's his signature, i'm a deal maker. >> he's not going to lose. >> but those people walking oh out there tonight sounded like they didn't want to say anything because they didn't want to go on the record too early. it sounds to me like they've made an awful lot of progress. the question i have going forward is say you're a member of the freedom caucus, and you've gone out and pushed this and pushed this. and then you cave? do you take credit?

do you take credit for pushing the president to the point where you've made it a better bill, or do you look like you've caved after you've said -- >> the answer to that, gloria, is ronald reagan's famous i'll take 80% and then come back for the -- >> it depends. i want to inject this one thing. president obama wanted obamacare. it was a huge victory. it was a giant celebration, and they got pummelled in the next four elections. a victory today is not always a victory tomorrow. and so president trump may get a victory tomorrow with the vote. we'll see what happens in 2018 and 2020. . >> it's just past the top of the hour. republicans emerged from the meeting. obamacare celebrated its 7th anniversary. gop members are split on it. the president is done